2017 NFL Charters (Airlines/Flight Numbers)

wjcandee · Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:05 pm

n801dm wrote:
wjcandee- I welcome a private conversation with you regarding your perception that CFR125 Operations are unsafe. As I have been a Director of Maintenance for many years in 125 and we hold ourselves to a 121 Standard on many different Flight and Tech Ops levels.

Bravo if that's what actually occurs in your operation. The point, I think, is that it's hit-or-miss, and there are plenty of 125 operations that don't. Moreover, merely as a matter of size and longevity, an airline like a Delta has tribal knowledge and experience that isn't really possible to replicate, and a safety culture that is hard to beat.

wjcandee · Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:06 pm

airportugal310 wrote:

It's all just a disguise for hating on the Patriots, as the haters always do. Nothing more.

Riiiiiiight. Because I give a crap about football. :boggled:

Joelatbsl · Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:10 pm

It's not uncommon though for the same aircraft to remain on footy duty all day long, as we have had it this pre-season with Delta already, where one B757 flew two different teams on the same day.

mailmover · Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:13 am

Forgot this one from last week.

LA Rams - UA2538 - B753 - http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2538

4holer · Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:56 pm

wjcandee wrote:
910A wrote:
wjcandee wrote:

That makes sense.

Atlas is flying the Cardinals and Jags..

And there you go. Omni can do the Ravens in a 767-300 or even a 777. Atlas can do the Cardinals and Jags in a 767-300 or (as they just did with the Jags) one of 3 747-400 pax birds they have available for charter. It appears that for both the Cardinals and Jags recently, Atlas used the second Sonair aircraft. That's a sweet layout: 10 in FC suites, 143 in Business Class, 36 Y, but even the Y is nice. They distinguish between "business" and "premium economy" on the Houston Express, but IIRC, it's service only; the seats are the same nice huge-legroom business seats.

The players and coaches should be very happy with that airplane. It's one heck of an upgrade from an AA 767.

...And yesterday, a sports radio guy in AZ mentioned the charter this week will also be a 747, albeit with no wifi.

wjcandee · Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:12 pm

Joelatbsl wrote:
It's not uncommon though for the same aircraft to remain on footy duty all day long, as we have had it this pre-season with Delta already, where one B757 flew two different teams on the same day.

Same for that Atlas 747.

My point was that UA/DL/etc. don't "assign a plane" to a team.

Joelatbsl · Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:39 am

The Buffalo Bills will once again use two planes to travel from Buffalo to Baltimore today, an A321 and a B752 each from Delta ...

JOEL

mailmover · Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:07 am

Cleveland - UA2535 - B764 - http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2535

4holer · Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:35 pm

That Atlas 747 currently enroute to PHX to take the team to Atlanta.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI8614

Joelatbsl · Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:00 pm

The Pittsburgh Steelers and the Miami Dolphins have once again used two Miami Air a/c each. While the Dolphins got two B738s, the Steelers had to be happy with one B738 and a B734 for the rest of the touring party ...

mailmover · Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:47 am

tsra wrote:
Are the Redskins still using UA this year and what type of aircraft are they using?

Redskins - UA2533 - B753 - http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2533

Detroit Lions - DL8868 - B752 - http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8868
LA Chargers - DL8873 - B752 - http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8873

wjcandee · Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:28 am

Joelatbsl wrote:
The Pittsburgh Steelers and the Miami Dolphins have once again used two Miami Air a/c each. While the Dolphins got two B738s, the Steelers had to be happy with one B738 and a B734 for the rest of the touring party ...

The Miami Air 734 is the nicer aircraft. Here's the interior:

Joelatbsl · Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:29 am

Doesn't look too shabby indeed!

71Zulu · Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:28 am

Ravens back to BWI from MSY - Omni Air B762

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/OAE ... /KMSY/KBWI

xcoaster1 · Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:14 pm

UPDATE
Arizona/PHX --
Atlanta/ATL -- DAL8863
Baltimore/BWI -- OAE400
Buffalo/BUF -- DAL8865
Carolina/CLT -- AAL9710
Chicago/ORD -- UAL2539
Cincinnati/CVG --
Cleveland/CLE -- UAL2535
Dallas/DFW -- AAL
Denver/DEN -- UAL2544
Detroit/DTW -- UAL8868
Green Bay/GRB -- DAL8869
Houston/IAH -- UAL2536
Indianapolis/IND -- DAL8871
Jacksonville/JAX -- GTI8624
Kansas City/MCI -- UAL2543
LA Chargers/LAX -- DAL8873
LA Rams/LAX -- UAL2538
Miami/MIA -- BSK
Minnesota/MSP -- DAL8874
New England/PVD -- Private
New Orleans/MSY -- UAL2541
NY Giants/EWR -- UAL2537
NY Jets/EWR -- UAL
Oakland/OAK - HAL70X
Philadelphia/PHL -- AAL
Pittsburgh/PIT -- BSK385
San Francisco/SJC -- UAL2540
Seattle/SEA -- DAL8875
Tampa Bay/TPA -- DAL8876
Tennessee/BNA -- UAL2542
Washington/IAD -- UAL2533

910A · Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:04 pm

xcoaster1 wrote:
UPDATE
Arizona/PHX --

It's been GTI 8614 for all three road pre-season games. For the trip to DEN this week it was a 763.

dumbell2424 · Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:54 am

For Thursday's games:

Jaguars returning from ATL on N263SG - GTI8625 - 744
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI8 ... /KATL/KJAX

Redskins returning from TPA on N57869 - UAL2533 - 753
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2 ... /KTPA/KIAD

Dolphins returning from MSP on both N749MA - BSK372 - 738 and N738MA - BSK373 - 738
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK3 ... /KMSP/KFLL
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK3 ... /KMSP/KFLL

Browns returning from ORD on N75854 - UAL2535 - 753
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2 ... /KORD/KCLE

71Zulu · Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:39 pm

So does the 2 airplane usage by some teams indicate a shortage of widebodies available for charter?

The teams getting down to 53 players now so maybe a single 738 could be enough.

dumbell2424 · Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:01 pm

71Zulu wrote:
So does the 2 airplane usage by some teams indicate a shortage of widebodies available for charter?

The teams getting down to 53 players now so maybe a single 738 could be enough.

53 players, 20+ coaches, 10+ trainers and conditioning, 20+ support personnel (equipment, video, etc), 10 or so executives, you're looking around 120+ people at a conservative estimate. Probably two person per set of three seats for comfort, not sure what the layout of Miami Air's 738s are, but assume around 30 rows, that would be right at 120 people. With some of the operations the teams are running, it's feasible that the number could be up towards 150, which would necessitate two 738s, whereas others can get away with a single UA 753 with 126 spread across economy and a further 24 in business

737tanker · Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:33 pm

During this pre-season the teams were allowed to have 90 players on their roster for all 4 pre-season games. Once the regular season starts the teams will have 53 players plus a 10 player practice squad. So the 90 players are in addition to all the coaches, trainers, etc that were previously mentioned.

wjcandee · Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:19 am

71Zulu wrote:
So does the 2 airplane usage by some teams indicate a shortage of widebodies available for charter?.

It indicates that after AA pulled out of servicing several teams, the individual teams found different solutions.

I pointed out that Omni and Atlas had widebodies available, but the teams weren't asking me. So Miami Air got the contract for two teams. Atlas got the contract for two teams, and is using the Sonair backup 747 for that service. (Sonair won't let just anybody charter "their" aircraft, but I guess a football team seemed an appropriate use.) Atlas has a number of other 747s and 767s in pax config that it primarily uses for mil charter; wonder whether it could have serviced an additional team or two. Same for Omni, which has 767s and 777s in pax config that are often used on mil charter. Omni is doing the Ravens on a 767, it seems.

I'm not besmirching Miami Air -- it's a very-reputable charter airline accustomed to handling demanding clientele, as I mentioned above. But it's a more-complicated thing to have 2 aircraft rather than one, and it necessarily splits the team up for the trip. If having everyone together isn't important, then it's a perfectly-acceptable solution.

Joelatbsl · Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:15 pm

Week 1, game 1, the Kansas City Chiefs travel to the New England Patriots, using a United B767-400, calling as UA2543, departing from MCI to PVD on 6 September.

Joelatbsl · Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:09 pm

Joelatbsl wrote:
Week 1, game 1, the Kansas City Chiefs travel to the New England Patriots, using a United B767-400, calling as UA2543, departing from MCI to PVD on 6 September.

Flight to be operated by the Star Alliance logojet N76055 btw ...

Joelatbsl · Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:01 pm

The Kansas City Chiefs' charter got switched to N66051, currently about 1.5h away from Providence.

dumbell2424 · Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:50 am

Joelatbsl wrote:
The Kansas City Chiefs' charter got switched to N66051, currently about 1.5h away from Providence.

And it sat in PVD for the night and will be heading back to MCI shortly. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N660 ... /KPVD/KMCI

Joelatbsl · Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:37 am

Several teams will be on the move today already for Sunday's first round games. This includes the Atlanta Falcons (ATL-ORD with Delta), the Carolina Panthers (CLT-SJC with American) and the Seattle Seahawks (SEA-GRB with Delta).

dumbell2424 · Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:38 am

Joelatbsl wrote:
Several teams will be on the move today already for Sunday's first round games. This includes the Atlanta Falcons (ATL-ORD with Delta), the Carolina Panthers (CLT-SJC with American) and the Seattle Seahawks (SEA-GRB with Delta).

Yup

Falcon @ Bears on N553NW - DAL8863 - 752
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8 ... /KATL/KORD

Panthers @ 49ers on N281AY - AAL9476 - 332
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9 ... /KCLT/KSJC

Seahawks @ Packers on N682DA - DAL8875 - 752
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8 ... /KSEA/KGRB

Cardinals @ Lions on N649GT - GTI8614 - 763
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI8 ... /KPHX/KDTW

Raiders @ Titans on N378HA - HAL708 - 332
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL7 ... /KOAK/KBNA

Surprised to see Jacksonville hasn't been on the move yet.

dumbell2424 · Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:53 pm

Jets @ Bills on N74856 - UAL2534 - 753
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2 ... /KEWR/KBUF

Jaguars @ Texans on N322SG - GTI8624 - 744
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI8 ... /KJAX/KEFD

Ravens @ Bengal on N225AX - OAE404 - 762
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/OAE4 ... /KBWI/KCVG

Looks like Eagles took the train to the Redskins according to their Twitter

Colts @ Rams on N661DN - DAL8871 - 752
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8 ... /KIND/KLAX

Giants @ Cowboys on N68061 - UAL2537 - 764
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2 ... /KEWR/KDFW

Joelatbsl · Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:46 am

As for the the two Monday night games:

Saints to MSP with United, B764 - UA2541

Chargers from LGB to DEN with Delta, B752 - DL8873

dumbell2424 · Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:29 am

Sunday night return flights:

Falcons: DAL8863, 752, N6704Z (different plane, same flight number) Although their official photographer shows them seemingly boarding a NW registration, none flew ORD-ATL. https://atlantafalcons.exposure.co/falc ... os/4114754
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8 ... /KORD/KATL

Panthers: AAL9476, 332, N281AY (same plane (flew SJC-PHL-PUJ-PHL-PHX-SJC between charters), same flight number)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9 ... /KSJC/KCLT

Seahawks: DAL8875, 752, N6707A (different plane, same flight number)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8 ... /KGRB/KSEA

Cardinals: GTI8615, 763, N649GT (same plane (remained in PHX for 2 nights), different flight number)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI8 ... /KDTW/KPHX

Raiders: HAL709, 332, N378HA (same plane (remained in BNA for 2 nights), different flight number)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL7 ... /KBNA/KOAK

Jets: UAL2534, 753, N75858 (different plane, same flight number)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2 ... /KBUF/KEWR

Ravens: OAE405, 762, N225AX (same plane (remained in CVG overnight), different flight number)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/OAE4 ... /KCVG/KBWI

Colts: DAL8871, 752, N661DN (same plane (remained in LAX overnight), same flight number)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8 ... /KLAX/KIND

Giants: UAL 2537, 764, N68061 (same plane (remained in DFW overnight), same flight number)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2 ... /KDFW/KEWR

As for registrations and flightaware links for the Saints and Chargers from above:

Saints: N66051, http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2 ... /KMSY/KMSP

Chargers: N689DL, http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8 ... /KLGB/KDEN

United_fan · Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:56 am

Does anyone know what the reg's for the Patriots 767 are ?

hkcanadaexpat · Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:44 pm

United_fan wrote:
Does anyone know what the reg's for the Patriots 767 are ?

N36NE
N225NE

KBOS · Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:40 pm

I was hoping to see the Patriots plane this weekend but it looks like they will still be flying Delta. Flightaware shows 2 757's due in Saturday morning using flight #8879 one from JFK the other ATL. The photo of it flying over my house will have to wait....

Joelatbsl · Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:15 pm

The Green Bay Packers use two Delta planes this week, a B757-200 and as a first for this season, a B737-800:

http://footballcharters.blogspot.com/20 ... 14-18.html

71Zulu · Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:03 pm

KBOS wrote:
I was hoping to see the Patriots plane this weekend but it looks like they will still be flying Delta. Flightaware shows 2 757's due in Saturday morning using flight #8879 one from JFK the other ATL. The photo of it flying over my house will have to wait....

Oh that's too bad, would have been nice to see their new plane at MSY and they don't get down here very often.

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Joelatbsl · Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:07 pm

A late night trip home for the Detroit Lions after tonight's game at the Giants, using a Delta 757:

http://footballcharters.blogspot.com/20 ... 14-18.html

71Zulu · Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:46 pm

^^^ deceptive site ahead?

masonite · Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:00 pm

Philadelphia used AA9475 for their flights to and from Kansas City last weekend. It was an A332. Curiously, the plane (N290AY) left after it dropped them off and went to Charlotte only for the same plane to come back the next day. Maybe American took the opportunity to do some light overnight maintenance, because that sure isn't efficient routing.

fraspotter · Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:06 pm

xcoaster1 wrote:
With the 2017 upon us and the changes on-going with airlines dropping certain team charters, I figured it's time to start getting flight info, airlines, equipment and flight numbers for the teams.

Washington/IAD -- UAL

Don't understand why the Redskins would use Dulles when their team facilities are in Landover in Maryland on the opposite side of DC compared to Dulles. Why not just go to BWI instead?

CapitalAvGeek · Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:53 pm

fraspotter wrote:
xcoaster1 wrote:
With the 2017 upon us and the changes on-going with airlines dropping certain team charters, I figured it's time to start getting flight info, airlines, equipment and flight numbers for the teams.

Washington/IAD -- UAL

Don't understand why the Redskins would use Dulles when their team facilities are in Landover in Maryland on the opposite side of DC compared to Dulles. Why not just go to BWI instead?

The team's headquarters and practice facility is in Ashburn, Virginia which is just north of Dulles. The stadium however is in Landover, Maryland. The Redskins always fly in and out of IAD. Visiting teams fly into IAD but depart out of BWI.

The Redskins flight number is UA2533.

NYPECO · Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:00 am

71Zulu wrote:
^^^ deceptive site ahead?

Could be a false positive, but the red security screen and all those warnings Chrome displays is enough to discourage me from going there.

KBOS · Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:59 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
United_fan wrote:
Does anyone know what the reg's for the Patriots 767 are ?

N36NE
N225NE

N36NE arrived at KPVD last night at 1:10, it was originally scheduled to arrive at 4pm so I wasn't able to see it land. Drove by TF Green this morning and it's sitting at gate 3A and looks spectacular.

Looking forward to seeing her often.

71Zulu · Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:33 pm

Saints supposed to be flying out of Charlotte tonight bound for London, anyone have the flight?

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Piedmont767LGW · Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:40 am

71Zulu wrote:
Saints supposed to be flying out of Charlotte tonight bound for London, anyone have the flight?

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Virgin Atlantic VIR9366 A346
Scheduled
Sun 08:05PM EDT CLT
LGW 08:33AM BST Mon
Nonstop

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VIR9 ... /KCLT/EGKK

PI767

LittleFokker · Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:59 am

Did the Bears drive up to GRB for tonight's game? I see their usual UA2539 GRB-ORD is scheduled for tonight, but I cannot find a flight record of them going from ORD to either ATW or GRB (unless they chartered a bunch of 50 seat jets!!). Google news search did not yield any results about taking buses.

AmbroseRPM · Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:59 am

The Miami Dolphins are on their way to London Heathrow with VS.

Virgin Atlantic VS9934 A346
FLL: Thurs 08:30pm EDT
LHR: Fri 09:14am BST

Airbus A340-642 G-VRED

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VIR ... /KFLL/EGLL
https://www.flightradar24.com/VIR9934/f094bdd

SyracuseAvGeek · Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:01 pm

Clemson vs Syracuse charter
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8 ... /KGSP/KSYR

910A · Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:21 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
Clemson vs Syracuse charter
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8 ... /KGSP/KSYR

Always thought the ACC was professional football.. :box:

910A · Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:21 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
Clemson vs Syracuse charter
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8 ... /KGSP/KSYR

Always thought the ACC was professional football.. :box:

71Zulu · Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:01 pm

LittleFokker wrote:
Did the Bears drive up to GRB for tonight's game? I see their usual UA2539 GRB-ORD is scheduled for tonight, but I cannot find a flight record of them going from ORD to either ATW or GRB (unless they chartered a bunch of 50 seat jets!!). Google news search did not yield any results about taking buses.

They have bussed before up and flown back, very rarely will any team do a round trip bus. After the game, understandably, they want to get home. A few years back the Falcons bussed up and back to Charlotte and it did not go over too well.

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