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Will QFA ever serve ORD?
I posted this topic previously, but it mysteriously got deleted. I was wondering if Qantas ever plans to fly into ORD?
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- ORDFlyer99
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Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
They've stated their intent, but it's a 9232 mile flight. A sparsely configured 789 would probably need huge payload restrictions to make it nonstop. Also overflying LAX and DFW. It would be awesome to see here in Chicago, but it would likely be a challenge operationally and financially.
Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
Do you want to take the A off your thread title and keep the QF?
You did get some responses from your earlier thread and they all answered in a similar way to ORDFlyer99.
I think it may have been 'mysteriously' deleted as the same question has been posted numerous times on a.net with typically the same replies!
You did get some responses from your earlier thread and they all answered in a similar way to ORDFlyer99.
I think it may have been 'mysteriously' deleted as the same question has been posted numerous times on a.net with typically the same replies!
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- globalcabotage
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Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
Yes, but unfortunately, the A-Netter's arm chair CEOs have control and all of these routes have A-Net approval before ORD (and all the O&D / Connections).
ATL: DL hub of the world
BOS: Why not, wicked awesome!
DEN: F ORD
DTW: If it wasn't for DL, etc., DTW would handle 125M passengers per year, and that's in a bad weather year
LAS: See DEN
MIA: It's MIA, we're more entitled than DTW!
PHL: Sure, we overfly ORD, but Rocky!
ATL: DL hub of the world
BOS: Why not, wicked awesome!
DEN: F ORD
DTW: If it wasn't for DL, etc., DTW would handle 125M passengers per year, and that's in a bad weather year
LAS: See DEN
MIA: It's MIA, we're more entitled than DTW!
PHL: Sure, we overfly ORD, but Rocky!
Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
Cunard wrote:Do you want to take the A off your thread title and keep the QF?
QFA is perfectly acceptable IMO. It's their ICAO code, so it's no different to how some people write UAL or DAL on these forums.
Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
It is weird though - I've never seen a poster use ICAO airline and IATA airport, as opposed to the far more common (and faintly annoying) IATA airline and ICAO airport...
Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
I have a difficult time seeing a business case. The 789 is the only aircraft in QF fleet plans that could technically make it but with severe payload restrictions I don't see ORD offering enough premium demand to offset the lower payload. Even when/if QF order either the 777X or A350 I don't think they will look to immediately with more important and lucrative routes to serve. If QF ever do show up in Chicago, it would most likely be a similar to the LAX-JFK route.
Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
globalcabotage wrote:Yes, but unfortunately, the A-Netter's arm chair CEOs have control and all of these routes have A-Net approval before ORD (and all the O&D / Connections).
ATL: DL hub of the world
BOS: Why not, wicked awesome!
DEN: F ORD
DTW: If it wasn't for DL, etc., DTW would handle 125M passengers per year, and that's in a bad weather year
LAS: See DEN
MIA: It's MIA, we're more entitled than DTW!
PHL: Sure, we overfly ORD, but Rocky!
Have to ask "But Rocky!" ?
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- AAvgeek744
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Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
Cunard wrote:Do you want to take the A off your thread title and keep the QF?
You did get some responses from your earlier thread and they all answered in a similar way to ORDFlyer99.
I think it may have been 'mysteriously' deleted as the same question has been posted numerous times on a.net with typically the same replies!
Yeah, I've seen this multiple times. As pointed out, it would need a lightly loaded 789, especially westbound. It should be reachable with the 777-8, but that's another one of those threads that keep popping up as well.
Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
BNE-ORD is possible with B789, but much of the demand is to SYD/MEL. At that point, AA/QF can route you via one stop at LAX versus what would be 1 stop at BNE. I think the next likely Australia route to be announced could be MEL-SFO (more likely via UA than QF), not any route past the US west coast.
One thing they could try if there is demand is to run a B789 MEL-LAX-ORD, but I don't know if there is enough Australia demand in Chicago to support such a service to begin with.
One thing they could try if there is demand is to run a B789 MEL-LAX-ORD, but I don't know if there is enough Australia demand in Chicago to support such a service to begin with.
Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
What about a one-stop via SAN with the plane operated by AA SAN-ORD-SAN? 
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- AAvgeek744
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Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
OzarkD9S wrote:What about a one-stop via SAN with the plane operated by AA SAN-ORD-SAN?
Put Jetstar on this one
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OzarkD9S wrote:What about a one-stop via SAN with the plane operated by AA SAN-ORD-SAN?
You run into treaty/legal/contractual issues, big time, with this proposal! It can be done, its been done with Concorde services, but it's not easy.
Gemuser
Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
I see the best case for precedence here the JFK-LAX service which Qantas operates only to continue passengers onward to Australia.
You could see a use case for Qantas having a ORD-LAX leg to carry onwards; but it doesn't make so much sense with all of the AA service options on that route (but it apparently does make sense from JFK).
ORD would have (arguably) more domestic feed than JFK; so it could make sense. Would be pretty cool to see Qantas do ORD, JFK to LAX. I think it would then need some thought on what aircraft to use as they basically have a 747 doing the duty to JFK.
Thinking a lot, writing less of it, I'd actually bet we'd see Qantas stop the JFK-LAX on their own metal before we'd see ORD-LAX happen. As for SYD-ORD or BNE-ORD or something; I doubt it really. USA-Australia is getting pretty well served honestly compared to what was available a few years ago.
You could see a use case for Qantas having a ORD-LAX leg to carry onwards; but it doesn't make so much sense with all of the AA service options on that route (but it apparently does make sense from JFK).
ORD would have (arguably) more domestic feed than JFK; so it could make sense. Would be pretty cool to see Qantas do ORD, JFK to LAX. I think it would then need some thought on what aircraft to use as they basically have a 747 doing the duty to JFK.
Thinking a lot, writing less of it, I'd actually bet we'd see Qantas stop the JFK-LAX on their own metal before we'd see ORD-LAX happen. As for SYD-ORD or BNE-ORD or something; I doubt it really. USA-Australia is getting pretty well served honestly compared to what was available a few years ago.
Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
QF announced ORD via LAXbwith 744's twice in the early 2000's didn't go ahead due 9/11 and SARS.
They will serve it at some point non stop from SYD most likely IMO but when they get either 778/359ULR and JFK will be non stop then aswell. QF need to have a point of difference to their competitors in the market and that's where ULH aircraft open up several new markets.
They will serve it at some point non stop from SYD most likely IMO but when they get either 778/359ULR and JFK will be non stop then aswell. QF need to have a point of difference to their competitors in the market and that's where ULH aircraft open up several new markets.
Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
Would an add-on leg from SFO to ORD work, rather than LAX-ORD?
Re: Will QFA ever serve ORD?
Dalavia wrote:Would an add-on leg from SFO to ORD work, rather than LAX-ORD?
No the point of LAX is you have flights from SYD/MEL/BNE to connect to and onward flight. SFO only had SYD same with DFW neither will be done.
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