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jgcotter
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:22 am

CR7 N506AE is en route from MQT to DAY for transfer from Envoy to PSA. 45 x CR7 on property now at PSA.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N506AE
 
jgcotter
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:18 pm

E145 N618AE is en route from MQT to DFW to re-enter service with Envoy from TSA.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N618AE
 
brooklynchris13
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:53 pm

I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...
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MLIAA
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:03 pm

brooklynchris13 wrote:
I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...


As far as I can tell, all of that is correct, but in a very long term sense. Envoy will fly a handful (12 I believe) -700s through the end of 2019, and though nothing has been announced about Compass, it’s a safe bet.

AA has sunk a lot of money into the 140s, and they seem to perform well from LGA. I’ll bet they stay around for a while.

Both Trans States and Expressjet will stop AA ops by the end of the 2018.
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alasizon
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:30 am

MLIAA wrote:
brooklynchris13 wrote:
I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...


As far as I can tell, all of that is correct, but in a very long term sense. Envoy will fly a handful (12 I believe) -700s through the end of 2019, and though nothing has been announced about Compass, it’s a safe bet.

AA has sunk a lot of money into the 140s, and they seem to perform well from LGA. I’ll bet they stay around for a while.

Both Trans States and Expressjet will stop AA ops by the end of the 2018.


The only thing I disagree with is the E140 long-term plan; I realistically only see 20-30 sticking around after next summer. They work great for LGA and a small handful of routes out of DFW but I don't think they need as many as have been withdrawn.
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flightsimer
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:35 am

brooklynchris13 wrote:
I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...


Pure rumor at this point, but on another site, it was said that Republic may reallocate E170's in 65 seat configuration for American, according to a senior person in management during a recent Indoc meet and greet.
Commercial / Airline Pilot
 
alasizon
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:51 am

flightsimer wrote:
Pure rumor at this point, but on another site, it was said that Republic may reallocate E170's in 65 seat configuration for American, according to a senior person in management during a recent Indoc meet and greet.


Been rumored for a while that AA would go down the route of using the E170 as the 65 seat RJ across the board but this is the first I'm hearing YX would pick up some extra birds.
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flightsimer
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:03 am

alasizon wrote:
flightsimer wrote:
Pure rumor at this point, but on another site, it was said that Republic may reallocate E170's in 65 seat configuration for American, according to a senior person in management during a recent Indoc meet and greet.


Been rumored for a while that AA would go down the route of using the E170 as the 65 seat RJ across the board but this is the first I'm hearing YX would pick up some extra birds.

We are the only 170 operator in the US and there really aren't many sitting around. The aircraft would likely be sourced from our UA and/or DL pool of 170's, then new 175SC's from our 100 frame LOI would be used to replace the 170's for DL/UA. We currently have 63 E170's in the fleet between both UA and DL.
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bigb
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:40 pm

brooklynchris13 wrote:
I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...


PSA is going to end up with 153 jets as a final number. Next year 14 new CRJ-900s will be coming online to replace 14 CRJ-200s next year. The CRJ-700s transfers from Envoy to PSA will temporary stop sometime next year.

PSA left over CRJ-200s will shift up to DCA to back fill TSA flying while Piedmont and Envoy will start back filling 50 seat flying out of CLT.

The 140s are great for airports with short runways where the 145s and the CRJ-200s would have trouble getting in and out of.

I know they are also configuring PSA CRJ-700s into 65 seats to free up room for more 76 seaters.
 
jbs2886
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:03 pm

bigb wrote:
brooklynchris13 wrote:
I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...


PSA is going to end up with 153 jets as a final number. Next year 14 new CRJ-900s will be coming online to replace 14 CRJ-200s next year. The CRJ-700s transfers from Envoy to PSA will temporary stop sometime next year.

PSA left over CRJ-200s will shift up to DCA to back fill TSA flying while Piedmont and Envoy will start back filling 50 seat flying out of CLT.

The 140s are great for airports with short runways where the 145s and the CRJ-200s would have trouble getting in and out of.

I know they are also configuring PSA CRJ-700s into 65 seats to free up room for more 76 seaters.


Great info guys. Is AA creating more room for 76 seaters above what is already planned?
 
alasizon
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:29 pm

bigb wrote:
I know they are also configuring PSA CRJ-700s into 65 seats to free up room for more 76 seaters.


I'm 90% sure that all of PSA's CR7s are already in the 65 seat config or at worst in the old MQ config of 63 seats. OO should be the only ones with a CR7 in the 6F/64Y config.
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mhkansan
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:45 pm

flightsimer wrote:
brooklynchris13 wrote:
I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...


Pure rumor at this point, but on another site, it was said that Republic may reallocate E170's in 65 seat configuration for American, according to a senior person in management during a recent Indoc meet and greet.


SkyWest will also still be flying up to 18 CRJ-200s for AA. They just began DFW-CYS on the -200, and took over the EAS flying to MEI and PIB from ExpressJet earlier this year. They are always on ORD-MKE and ORD-ICT, for example.
 
MO11
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:04 pm

mhkansan wrote:

SkyWest will also still be flying up to 18 CRJ-200s for AA. They just began DFW-CYS on the -200, and took over the EAS flying to MEI and PIB from ExpressJet earlier this year. They are always on ORD-MKE and ORD-ICT, for example.


There are just a handful of Skywest/American Eagle routes left that use the CRJ 200, such as MEI, PIB, and SGU. They use aircraft in the blue Skywest color scheme; the aircraft that were American Eagle were repainted into United or Delta colors. PHX-SGU sometimes uses the same airplane day after day.
 
airtran737
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:41 am

brooklynchris13 wrote:
I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...


Envoy will have the following fleet size in 2019

Jan 172 50/13/109
Feb 173 52/12/109
Mar 176 55/12/109
Apr 178 57/12/109
May 181 60/12/109
Jun 183 62/12/109
Jul 184 62/12/109
Aug 183 63/11/109
Sep 183 64/10/109
Oct 183 66/8/109
Nov 186 68/8/109
Dec 175 69/7/109
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mhkansan
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:33 pm

From an internal memo, Envoy announced AA is exercising options on 15 more ERJ-175s bringing up the year-end 2020 total to 84 aircraft.
 
jgcotter
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:01 am

Envoy has taken return possession of E145 N611AE from Trans States in MQT/SAW.
 
jgcotter
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:29 pm

E145 N612AE is en route from STL to MQT for transfer from TSA to Envoy.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N612AE
 
MLIAA
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:45 am

A Compass Airlines E175, N216NN, has been sitting at Marana for a few days. Anyone know why?
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alasizon
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Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:23 am

MLIAA wrote:
A Compass Airlines E175, N216NN, has been sitting at Marana for a few days. Anyone know why?


It was some sort of MX issue; flew there unpressurized at 10k.
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jgcotter
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Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:29 pm

Re: American Eagle's plan for the future.

Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:51 pm

E145 N644AE is in service now at Piedmont. 54 x E145 on property now at Piedmont.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N644AE
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