INFINITI329 wrote:

airtran737 wrote:

Boof02671 wrote:

Are you sure about that?

Piedmont currently is operating 41.

https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Pie ... e-e145.htm

Piedmont is operating the 145, not the 140. So again, they would have to amend their manuals and training to incorporate the differences. Besides, Isom said that PDT is going to be an airline of around 60 airplanes. Their growth phase is almost done. They will continue to be a distant third in providing lift for AA among the wholly owned carriers.

What are the differences between the 145 and 140 ? I was under impression that it was just a seat count difference.

They removed ~4.5 feet of the fuselage forward of the wing resulting in 2 less rows.

How many of YV's -900's does AA own and how many does Mesa own?

Envoy N622AE is now back in service from its tenure at Trans States.

MLIAA wrote:

Varsity1 wrote:

How many of YV's -900's does AA own and how many does Mesa own?

I believe Mesa owns all of them.

I was under the impression that they owned 49~ of them, and AA owned roughly 15 (the newest ones). But unsure.

It looks like Envoy has taken back possession of N615AE SAW, N616AE ABI and N618AE SAW from Trans States at the listed maintenance bases.

E145 N652RS is en route from ABI to RIC for transfer from Envoy to Piedmont. 52 x E145 on property now at Piedmont.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N652RS

Good updates JG!

Varsity1 wrote:

Good updates JG!

Thank you Varsity!

E145 N642AE is en route from ABI to RIC for transfer from Envoy to Piedmont. 53 x E145 on property now at Piedmont.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N642AE

CR7 N506AE is en route from MQT to DAY for transfer from Envoy to PSA. 45 x CR7 on property now at PSA.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N506AE

E145 N618AE is en route from MQT to DFW to re-enter service with Envoy from TSA.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N618AE

I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...

brooklynchris13 wrote:

I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...

Pure rumor at this point, but on another site, it was said that Republic may reallocate E170's in 65 seat configuration for American, according to a senior person in management during a recent Indoc meet and greet.

alasizon wrote:

flightsimer wrote:

Pure rumor at this point, but on another site, it was said that Republic may reallocate E170's in 65 seat configuration for American, according to a senior person in management during a recent Indoc meet and greet.

Been rumored for a while that AA would go down the route of using the E170 as the 65 seat RJ across the board but this is the first I'm hearing YX would pick up some extra birds.

We are the only 170 operator in the US and there really aren't many sitting around. The aircraft would likely be sourced from our UA and/or DL pool of 170's, then new 175SC's from our 100 frame LOI would be used to replace the 170's for DL/UA. We currently have 63 E170's in the fleet between both UA and DL.

brooklynchris13 wrote:

I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...

PSA is going to end up with 153 jets as a final number. Next year 14 new CRJ-900s will be coming online to replace 14 CRJ-200s next year. The CRJ-700s transfers from Envoy to PSA will temporary stop sometime next year.

PSA left over CRJ-200s will shift up to DCA to back fill TSA flying while Piedmont and Envoy will start back filling 50 seat flying out of CLT.

The 140s are great for airports with short runways where the 145s and the CRJ-200s would have trouble getting in and out of.

I know they are also configuring PSA CRJ-700s into 65 seats to free up room for more 76 seaters.

bigb wrote:

brooklynchris13 wrote:

I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...

PSA is going to end up with 153 jets as a final number. Next year 14 new CRJ-900s will be coming online to replace 14 CRJ-200s next year. The CRJ-700s transfers from Envoy to PSA will temporary stop sometime next year.

PSA left over CRJ-200s will shift up to DCA to back fill TSA flying while Piedmont and Envoy will start back filling 50 seat flying out of CLT.

The 140s are great for airports with short runways where the 145s and the CRJ-200s would have trouble getting in and out of.

I know they are also configuring PSA CRJ-700s into 65 seats to free up room for more 76 seaters.

Great info guys. Is AA creating more room for 76 seaters above what is already planned?

flightsimer wrote:

brooklynchris13 wrote:

I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...

Pure rumor at this point, but on another site, it was said that Republic may reallocate E170's in 65 seat configuration for American, according to a senior person in management during a recent Indoc meet and greet.

SkyWest will also still be flying up to 18 CRJ-200s for AA. They just began DFW-CYS on the -200, and took over the EAS flying to MEI and PIB from ExpressJet earlier this year. They are always on ORD-MKE and ORD-ICT, for example.

mhkansan wrote:

SkyWest will also still be flying up to 18 CRJ-200s for AA. They just began DFW-CYS on the -200, and took over the EAS flying to MEI and PIB from ExpressJet earlier this year. They are always on ORD-MKE and ORD-ICT, for example.

There are just a handful of Skywest/American Eagle routes left that use the CRJ 200, such as MEI, PIB, and SGU. They use aircraft in the blue Skywest color scheme; the aircraft that were American Eagle were repainted into United or Delta colors. PHX-SGU sometimes uses the same airplane day after day.

brooklynchris13 wrote:

I have been trying get a grasp on what the ultimate regional plan is for AA moving forward.. is the following summary at least a moderately accurate assessment of where things will be within 12-18 months?
CRJ2- down to around 20 frames, all with PSA
ERJ140- around 50 frames, all with Envoy
ERJ145- around 118 frames, basically split 50/50 between Envoy and Piedmont
CR7- around 120 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Skywest (with some sifting around between the Express Jet & Skywest sides)
CR9- around 130 frames, basically split 50/50 between PSA and Mesa
ERJ175- around 160 frames, basically split 50/50 between Republic and Envoy (if Compass flying is returned)

Based on this, total size:
Envoy: 198 frames (ish)
PSA: 160 frames (ish)
Republic: 85 frames (ish)
Piedmont: 60 frames (ish)
Skywest/ExpressJet: 60 frames (ish)

I know the numbers do not add up to the exact match of the recent fleet plan, this is more for conceptual purposes.
If this is correct, how long will it likely be for the ERJ140s to stay around and what would likely replace them?
Is there any firm information on the plan to replace Compass yet?
And has a last day for TransStates been announced?

Thanks...

Envoy will have the following fleet size in 2019

Jan 172 50/13/109
Feb 173 52/12/109
Mar 176 55/12/109
Apr 178 57/12/109
May 181 60/12/109
Jun 183 62/12/109
Jul 184 62/12/109
Aug 183 63/11/109
Sep 183 64/10/109
Oct 183 66/8/109
Nov 186 68/8/109
Dec 175 69/7/109

From an internal memo, Envoy announced AA is exercising options on 15 more ERJ-175s bringing up the year-end 2020 total to 84 aircraft.

Envoy has taken return possession of E145 N611AE from Trans States in MQT/SAW.

E145 N612AE is en route from STL to MQT for transfer from TSA to Envoy.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N612AE

E145 N644AE is in service now at Piedmont. 54 x E145 on property now at Piedmont.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N644AE

E145 N613AE ferried from STL to MQT today for transfer from TSA to Envoy.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N613AE

Whats the purpose of Envoy transfering their E145s to Piedmont only to turnaround and take on Trans States' E145s?

Envoy is equipped to do the heavy checks once they come back from TS, then fly them. Piedmont doesn’t do heavy checks, they send them to Envoy when they’re due... so transfers to Piedmont basically just got out of an Envoy check, then induction at Piedmont.

Would be nice to see Envoy start up a single daily turn from Fargo, ND to Phoenix, AZ to run Allegiant out of town. Sioux Falls, SD has it and seems to do well and here in Fargo it's been talked about for awhile but, would be nice to see Envoy jump on it with a daily CRJ702 or a E175 single daily afternoon turn.

Allegiant runs daily A320 runs to Phoenix 3 months of the year and 4 or 5 times a week during the rest of the year besides many other traffic that goes there via MSP or DFW or DEN. I think Fargo could handle a CRJ900 daily or even 6x a week with no flight on either Saturday or Sunday. IMO

Envoy E140 N842AE is back in service with Envoy. 51 x E140 now in service at Envoy, although investor guidance still says 49.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N842AE

Envoy E140 N842AE is back in service. 51 x E140 active now at Envoy, although investor guidance still says 49.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N842AE

INFINITI329 wrote:

airtran737 wrote:

Boof02671 wrote:

Are you sure about that?

Piedmont currently is operating 41.

https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Pie ... e-e145.htm

Piedmont is operating the 145, not the 140. So again, they would have to amend their manuals and training to incorporate the differences. Besides, Isom said that PDT is going to be an airline of around 60 airplanes. Their growth phase is almost done. They will continue to be a distant third in providing lift for AA among the wholly owned carriers.

What are the differences between the 145 and 140 ? I was under impression that it was just a seat count difference.

The EMB-140 is a stretched EMB-135 and for that reason its somewhat of a performance dog. Its main purpose was to skirt AA pilot scope clause.

nc3rd wrote:

INFINITI329 wrote:

airtran737 wrote:

Piedmont is operating the 145, not the 140. So again, they would have to amend their manuals and training to incorporate the differences. Besides, Isom said that PDT is going to be an airline of around 60 airplanes. Their growth phase is almost done. They will continue to be a distant third in providing lift for AA among the wholly owned carriers.

What are the differences between the 145 and 140 ? I was under impression that it was just a seat count difference.

The EMB-140 is a stretched EMB-135 and for that reason its somewhat of a performance dog.Its main purpose was to skirt AA pilot scope clause.

I would think the E140 is better than the E145, now that's a performance dog. The 145 could not do HVN but the CRJ-200 could.

nc3rd wrote:

INFINITI329 wrote:

airtran737 wrote:

Piedmont is operating the 145, not the 140. So again, they would have to amend their manuals and training to incorporate the differences. Besides, Isom said that PDT is going to be an airline of around 60 airplanes. Their growth phase is almost done. They will continue to be a distant third in providing lift for AA among the wholly owned carriers.

What are the differences between the 145 and 140 ? I was under impression that it was just a seat count difference.

The EMB-140 is a stretched EMB-135 and for that reason its somewhat of a performance dog. Its main purpose was to skirt AA pilot scope clause.

The EMB -140 is a simple shrink if the EMB-145 and thus is more of a performer. The E-135 has more weight removed and would require some part upgrades.

Lightsaber

The EMB-140 is actually an EMB-135KL. So its a stretch of the 135, not a shrink of the 145 which doesnt matter a whole lot except in performance. De-rated engine, smaller brakes etc.

E175 N264NN is en route SJK-MAO-FLL-DFW for delivery to Envoy. 45 x E175 on property now at Envoy.

E175 N265NN is en route SJK-MAO-FLL-ABI for delivery to Envoy. 46 x E175 on property now at Envoy.

American Eagle could add PHX-CVG, PHX-DAY, PHX-FAR, PHX-SDF, PHX-BNA, PHX-MSY, and PHX-TUL nonstop service.

While the PHX-CVG and PHX-DAY nonstop routes are longer than any nonstop routes currently operated on American Eagle, there are a few nonstop domestic routes longer than PHX-CVG and PHX-DAY that are operated on regional jets, including SEA-DAL on AS, PDX-DAL on AS, and SFO-STL on UA.

The new investor guidance is showing 51 x E140 at year end 2018, then back to 49 by year end 2019 & 2020.

jplatts wrote:

American Eagle could add PHX-CVG, PHX-DAY, PHX-FAR, PHX-SDF, PHX-BNA, PHX-MSY, and PHX-TUL nonstop service.

While the PHX-CVG and PHX-DAY nonstop routes are longer than any nonstop routes currently operated on American Eagle, there are a few nonstop domestic routes longer than PHX-CVG and PHX-DAY that are operated on regional jets, including SEA-DAL on AS, PDX-DAL on AS, and SFO-STL on UA.

I'd imagine PHX-CVG and PHX-MSY would be mainline (which AA doesn't seem to be interested in adding).

I'd imagine PHX-COS, PHX-FAR, and PHX-TUL would be logical adds.

BNA, CVG, MSY, and RDU make sense for AA but for some reason they don't seem to have any interest in any of those routes.

CR7 N524AE ferried from MQT to DAY last night for transfer from Envoy to PSA. 46 x CR7 on property now at PSA.
https://fr24.com/data/flights/aa9800#1ec750ae

E145 N657AE ferried from ABI to RIC today for transfer from Envoy to Piedmont. 55 x E145 on property now at Piedmont.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N657AE