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MLIAA wrote:As of today (1 Aug 2017), BA only flies the 380 to LAX and SFO in the United States. We will probably see the return of former routes like MIA and IAD, but can you see BA flying the super to ORD, DFW, PHL, CLT, or any other cities in the US?
globalcabotage wrote:MLIAA wrote:As of today (1 Aug 2017), BA only flies the 380 to LAX and SFO in the United States. We will probably see the return of former routes like MIA and IAD, but can you see BA flying the super to ORD, DFW, PHL, CLT, or any other cities in the US?
ORD and DFW possibly (ORD is more of a frequency route, although BA has mentioned flying it to ORD).
CLT and PHL, not likely.
globalcabotage wrote:MLIAA wrote:As of today (1 Aug 2017), BA only flies the 380 to LAX and SFO in the United States. We will probably see the return of former routes like MIA and IAD, but can you see BA flying the super to ORD, DFW, PHL, CLT, or any other cities in the US?
ORD and DFW possibly (ORD is more of a frequency route, although BA has mentioned flying it to ORD).
CLT and PHL, not likely.
mptpa wrote:I thought I have seen a BA A38 at IAD.
MLIAA wrote:As of today (1 Aug 2017), BA only flies the 380 to LAX and SFO in the United States. We will probably see the return of former routes like MIA and IAD, but can you see BA flying the super to ORD, DFW, PHL, CLT, or any other cities in the US?
MLIAA wrote:mptpa wrote:I thought I have seen a BA A38 at IAD.
It has been in the past, probably will be again soon, but not today.
MLIAA wrote:mptpa wrote:I thought I have seen a BA A38 at IAD.
It has been in the past, probably will be again soon, but not today.
Miami wrote:MIA is expected to be a year-round service for the A380 soon.
Aither wrote:That would be so cool if they could fly the A380 direct to Hawaii at least on a seasonal basis.
as739x wrote:SFO is year round daily
GCT64 wrote:A - I hope it's still on LHR-BOS, because I'm on it on Sunday
B - More seriously, this shows how short BA is of A380s, I'm still very surprised that they haven't ordered more. For Y pax they have to be the ride of choice: Y in BA B789 versus Y in BA A380 is no contest and a very easy travel decision to make.
GCT64 wrote:this shows how short BA is of A380s, I'm still very surprised that they haven't ordered more. For Y pax they have to be the ride of choice: Y in BA B789 versus Y in BA A380 is no contest and a very easy travel decision to make.
fcogafa wrote:Rather than being short of A380s, could it be more that the routes do not justify it outside their peak seasons?GCT64 wrote:this shows how short BA is of A380s, I'm still very surprised that they haven't ordered more. For Y pax they have to be the ride of choice: Y in BA B789 versus Y in BA A380 is no contest and a very easy travel decision to make.
fcogafa wrote:Rather than being short of A380s, could it be more that the routes do not justify it outside their peak seasons?
usairways85 wrote:globalcabotage wrote:MLIAA wrote:As of today (1 Aug 2017), BA only flies the 380 to LAX and SFO in the United States. We will probably see the return of former routes like MIA and IAD, but can you see BA flying the super to ORD, DFW, PHL, CLT, or any other cities in the US?
ORD and DFW possibly (ORD is more of a frequency route, although BA has mentioned flying it to ORD).
CLT and PHL, not likely.
I'll go as far as to say no to PHL. I do not think I've seen anything from the airport proposing adjustments to gates and taxiways to handle the 380. I am pretty sure when the 380 has diverted to PHL adjacent taxiways had to be considered during the 380 movement and it just went to a remote stand.
vhtje wrote:as739x wrote:SFO is year round daily
Not for much longer - it will be reduced to 3x weekly W17. The remaining 4x BA287/286 will be 777-236ER and one 747-436.
London Heathrow – San Francisco Operational aircraft changes
BA285/284 747-400 replaces 777-200ER
BA287/286 A380 service reduces from 7 to 3 weekly (Day 467). Day 123 operated by 777-200ER, Day 5 by 747-400
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-21jul17/
I would expect BA 287/286 to revert to a full A380 service for S18.
TurnaroudUK wrote:This annoyed me as I'm due to fly on a the 287 on a Monday
TurnaroudUK wrote:
This annoyed me as I'm due to fly on a the 287 on a Monday
JCTJennings wrote:Back in the day, passengers supposedly preferred to fly transatlantic on BOAC's Super VC10s. It didn't mean that US airlines rushed to place orders for it. Airline bean counters care not one jot whether passengers prefer the experience of one type over another (and, of course, BOAC tried very hard NOT to have Super VC10s), money rules and operating economics will always win out over alleged passenger preference, which in any case is very much a case of one man's meat etc.
usairways85 wrote:globalcabotage wrote:MLIAA wrote:As of today (1 Aug 2017), BA only flies the 380 to LAX and SFO in the United States. We will probably see the return of former routes like MIA and IAD, but can you see BA flying the super to ORD, DFW, PHL, CLT, or any other cities in the US?
ORD and DFW possibly (ORD is more of a frequency route, although BA has mentioned flying it to ORD).
CLT and PHL, not likely.
I'll go as far as to say no to PHL. I do not think I've seen anything from the airport proposing adjustments to gates and taxiways to handle the 380. I am pretty sure when the 380 has diverted to PHL adjacent taxiways had to be considered during the 380 movement and it just went to a remote stand.
vhtje wrote:TurnaroudUK wrote:
This annoyed me as I'm due to fly on a the 287 on a Monday
BA286/287 remain all-A380 until the 29th October. Fly before then perhaps?
shankly wrote:Fact is the A380 does add to the flying experience. Put that in the mix with other operational factors and for average Joe pax it can be the difference between thinking that a flight was "just a flight" or "that was a real nice flight".
TurnaroudUK wrote:vhtje wrote:as739x wrote:SFO is year round daily
Not for much longer - it will be reduced to 3x weekly W17. The remaining 4x BA287/286 will be 777-236ER and one 747-436.
London Heathrow – San Francisco Operational aircraft changes
BA285/284 747-400 replaces 777-200ER
BA287/286 A380 service reduces from 7 to 3 weekly (Day 467). Day 123 operated by 777-200ER, Day 5 by 747-400
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-21jul17/
I would expect BA 287/286 to revert to a full A380 service for S18.
This annoyed me as I'm due to fly on a the 287 on a Monday
SFOA380 wrote:Although the A380 is great to experience (especially for aviation enthusiasts like us) the old BA 772s are a far more comfortable ride in Y...
AntonioMartin wrote:PHX!! I've only seen one A380 in person and that was an Emirates plane that for some reason flew over the basketball court I was playing at during one of their LAX-Dubai run so I would love to get a chance to see one up close and personal...BA could upgrade!!
GCT64 wrote:It's interesting to look at pricing across all classes on BA28 (B77W) and BA32 (A380) which run HKG-LHR on almost exactly the same schedule. A380 seat pricing is never less than the B77W seat price and often commands a higher price (for the same class on the same date booked at the same time). This can only reflect more customer desirability (presumably amongst the more frequent, experienced flyers, others wouldn't know the difference), certainly I pick the A380 on that route if I can.
atcsundevil wrote:AntonioMartin wrote:PHX!! I've only seen one A380 in person and that was an Emirates plane that for some reason flew over the basketball court I was playing at during one of their LAX-Dubai run so I would love to get a chance to see one up close and personal...BA could upgrade!!
The airport is not A380 capable. It can only handle diversions, but not regular service. As far as I know, there are no plans to make the airport A380 capable, and there's been no interest to do so. Furthermore, BA has proven they'd rather operate a second B744 frequency than upgauge. I highly doubt PHX will ever see scheduled A380 service.
SFOA380 wrote:
Although the A380 is great to experience (especially for aviation enthusiasts like us) the old BA 772s are a far more comfortable ride in Y...
shane wrote:The irritating thing about economy on a BA A380 is that the armrests don't raise all the way, which makes it hard to lie across empty seats (of which there were plenty on my last two SFO-LHR / LHR-SFO runs). You have to carefully wedge yourself underneath them just so. Why?!?!
GCT64 wrote:shankly wrote:Fact is the A380 does add to the flying experience. Put that in the mix with other operational factors and for average Joe pax it can be the difference between thinking that a flight was "just a flight" or "that was a real nice flight".
It's interesting to look at pricing across all classes on BA28 (B77W) and BA32 (A380) which run HKG-LHR on almost exactly the same schedule. A380 seat pricing is never less than the B77W seat price and often commands a higher price (for the same class on the same date booked at the same time). This can only reflect more customer desirability (presumably amongst the more frequent, experienced flyers, others wouldn't know the difference), certainly I pick the A380 on that route if I can.
shankly wrote:JCTJennings wrote:Back in the day, passengers supposedly preferred to fly transatlantic on BOAC's Super VC10s. It didn't mean that US airlines rushed to place orders for it. Airline bean counters care not one jot whether passengers prefer the experience of one type over another (and, of course, BOAC tried very hard NOT to have Super VC10s), money rules and operating economics will always win out over alleged passenger preference, which in any case is very much a case of one man's meat etc.
Not entirely true. By the time BOAC realised it could actually make more money operating the VC-10 than the 707, thanks to higher loads, the VC-10's time was over and BOAC was moving into the wide body era.
Fact is the A380 does add to the flying experience. Put that in the mix with other operational factors and for average Joe pax it can be the difference between thinking that a flight was "just a flight" or "that was a real nice flight".
quote]Although the A380 is great to experience (especially for aviation enthusiasts like us) the old BA 772s are a far more comfortable ride in Y...[/
oldannyboy wrote:shankly wrote:JCTJennings wrote:Back in the day, passengers supposedly preferred to fly transatlantic on BOAC's Super VC10s. It didn't mean that US airlines rushed to place orders for it. Airline bean counters care not one jot whether passengers prefer the experience of one type over another (and, of course, BOAC tried very hard NOT to have Super VC10s), money rules and operating economics will always win out over alleged passenger preference, which in any case is very much a case of one man's meat etc.
Not entirely true. By the time BOAC realised it could actually make more money operating the VC-10 than the 707, thanks to higher loads, the VC-10's time was over and BOAC was moving into the wide body era.
Fact is the A380 does add to the flying experience. Put that in the mix with other operational factors and for average Joe pax it can be the difference between thinking that a flight was "just a flight" or "that was a real nice flight".
Fully agree Mr Shankly. Flying on the VC10 was remarkably better than anything else really, and VC10 services tended to command a higher price and a higher number of passengers than the equivalent ones on the 707, which in all honesty was noisy and especially uncomfortable in rough weather. When BA realized how great their Vickers fleet was for their books, the 747 was already going to arrive... the rest is history.
The same goes for the A380 vs the 777 in terms of comfort difference. The A380 is in a league of its own.
oldannyboy wrote:my 2 cents:shankly wrote:JCTJennings wrote:Back in the day, passengers supposedly preferred to fly transatlantic on BOAC's Super VC10s. It didn't mean that US airlines rushed to place orders for it. Airline bean counters care not one jot whether passengers prefer the experience of one type over another (and, of course, BOAC tried very hard NOT to have Super VC10s), money rules and operating economics will always win out over alleged passenger preference, which in any case is very much a case of one man's meat etc.
Not entirely true. By the time BOAC realised it could actually make more money operating the VC-10 than the 707, thanks to higher loads, the VC-10's time was over and BOAC was moving into the wide body era.
Fact is the A380 does add to the flying experience. Put that in the mix with other operational factors and for average Joe pax it can be the difference between thinking that a flight was "just a flight" or "that was a real nice flight".
Fully agree Mr Shankly. Flying on the VC10 was remarkably better than anything else really, and VC10 services tended to command a higher price and a higher number of passengers than the equivalent ones on the 707, which in all honesty was noisy and especially uncomfortable in rough weather. When BA realized how great their Vickers fleet was for their books, the 747 was already going to arrive... the rest is history.
The same goes for the A380 vs the 777 in terms of comfort difference. The A380 is in a league of its own.
SFOA380 wrote:Although the A380 is great to experience (especially for aviation enthusiasts like us) the old BA 772s are a far more comfortable ride in Y...