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Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:59 am

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THE CENTRAL AMERICAN AVIATION THREAD
Part LXVII

Airlines from Europe in Central America

This thread is now dedicated for those European carrier flying to the isthmus.
Our region has recently experienced new carriers operating here or increasing their weekly frequencies.
Some of them are now flying on a year-round basis.
Ten years ago, only IB and DE were in service here. This fact provide an idea about the expansion of that market.

IB MAD-GUA-SAL-MAD
IB MAD-PTY
IB MAD-SJO
EB MAD-GUA-HAV-MAD
UX MAD-SAP
AF CDG-PTY
AF CDG-SJO
KL AMS-PTY
KL AMS-SJO. Effective: October 31
WK ZRH-SJO
TK IST-BOG-PTY-IST
LH FRA-PTY
LH FRA-SJO. Effective: March 29
BA LGW-SJO
BY LGW-LIR
DE FRA-SDQ-PTY
DE FRA-SDQ-SJO
DE MUC-SDQ-SJO

Edited on July 13th, 2017.
Last edited by atcsundevil on Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Title updated
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Re: Central American Aviation thread - 67

Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:58 am

I also think that LH 518 and 519's schedule serves only O&D traffic. It's nothing that appeals to connecting passengers.
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Re: Central American Aviation thread - 67

Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:48 pm

Correction on the EB flight
MAD-VRA-GUA-VRA-MAD
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Re: Central American Aviation thread - 67

Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:17 pm

Link to the previous thread:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1352883
 
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Re: Central American Aviation thread - 67

Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:27 am

juanchito wrote:
EB flight
MAD-VRA-GUA-VRA-MAD


So Wamos Air has reversed their former plans.

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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:29 pm

SJOtoLIR wrote:
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THE CENTRAL AMERICAN AVIATION THREAD
Part LXVII

Airlines from Europe in Central America

This thread is now dedicated for those European carrier flying to the isthmus.
Our region has recently experienced new carriers operating here or increasing their weekly frequencies.
Some of them are now flying on a year-round basis.
Ten years ago, only IB and DE were in service here. This fact provide an idea about the expansion of that market.

IB MAD-GUA-SAL-MAD
IB MAD-PTY
IB MAD-SJO
EB MAD-GUA-HAV-MAD
UX MAD-SAP
AF CDG-PTY
AF CDG-SJO
KL AMS-PTY
KL AMS-SJO. Effective: October 31
WK ZRH-SJO
TK IST-BOG-PTY-IST
LH FRA-PTY
LH FRA-SJO. Effective: March 29
BA LGW-SJO
BY LGW-LIR
DE FRA-SDQ-PTY
DE FRA-SDQ-SJO
DE MUC-SDQ-SJO

Edited on July 13th, 2017.


To my understanding DE does not operate to PTY anymore
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:06 pm

How is BA doing in SJO now. Initially loads were bad.
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:38 pm

yellowtail wrote:
How is BA doing in SJO now. Initially loads were bad.
Maybe routing it via PTY may improve the loads.
I'm not on CM's payroll.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:10 pm

2travel2know2 wrote:
yellowtail wrote:
How is BA doing in SJO now. Initially loads were bad.
Maybe routing it via PTY may improve the loads.


According to a facebook page called Aeroinfo Costa Rica, they are doing great on this route.
All actual European routes from SJO are above 80% load factor.

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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:58 pm

juanchito wrote:
2travel2know2 wrote:
yellowtail wrote:
How is BA doing in SJO now. Initially loads were bad.
Maybe routing it via PTY may improve the loads.


According to a facebook page called Aeroinfo Costa Rica, they are doing great on this route.
All actual European routes from SJO are above 80% load factor.

Juanchito
High load factors don't mean good yields. Even as a leisure route out of LGW, the yields have to be right for SJO to be sustainable. At least it seems they're doing better than 17 years ago, when the route was operated via GCM IIRC. If they'd move the route to LHR (which I know they'll never do), they could use belly cargo as one potential driver for good yields.
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:47 am

According to Prensa Libre, Guatemala will now place a higher security scrutiny on electronics larger than a cellphone for flights to the US. Apparently Mexico is doing it as well. Any other countries in the region doing this? Link in Spanish http://www.prensalibre.com/guatemala/comunitario/las-nuevas-medidas-de-seguridad-en-los-vuelos-de-guatemala-hacia-eeuu
nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:02 am

aer wrote:
According to Prensa Libre, Guatemala will now place a higher security scrutiny on electronics larger than a cellphone for flights to the US. Apparently Mexico is doing it as well. Any other countries in the region doing this? Link in Spanish http://www.prensalibre.com/guatemala/comunitario/las-nuevas-medidas-de-seguridad-en-los-vuelos-de-guatemala-hacia-eeuu
SJO did also increase security measures for electronics on flights to the US, including screenings at the gate. I believe it all started either last or this week, I don't remember. Personally, I have no problems with that.
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:21 pm

http://www.diarioextra.com/Noticia/deta ... nature-air

I apologise for linking to Diario Extra, one of the worst tabloids on the planet, however it seems all four LET-410 aircraft operated by Nature Air have been grounded by DGAC due to issues with their leasing contracts. This leaves them with 2 Twin Otters (unless my information is off). No statement by 5C so far.
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:49 pm

Iberia will increment MAD-GUA-SAL-MAD to 5 weekly on October 30th.
Flights will be operated on A330 equipment and flights will be on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays.
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:45 pm

At what point does a European carrier do Managua. Apart from Belize (I don't know if MAD-SAP has ended its trial run yet), Nicaragua is the last country left in the isthmus without Euro service.
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:40 am

Rumor is that UA will start ORD-GUA (and a few more), to keep AA out.
 
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Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (2nd Half)

Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:21 pm

globalcabotage wrote:
Rumor is that UA will start ORD-GUA (and a few more), to keep AA out.


Sounds great, AA already started flights to GUA from ORD seasonal
Saturday flights only on high season.

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