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WPvsMW wrote:Note that the network strategy is long-haul, vs. intra-TW and CN coastal flights. If he could base it at TSA rather than TPE, and focus medium haul to JP and KR, and long haul to hub cities in US and EU, it would certainly poach traffic from CI and BR. So, assuming Mr. Chang has the financing, the real issue is political... rights at TSA... and the LCY nature of TSA, landing 777s in a fishbowl.
juliuswong wrote:I don't think another low cost airline will work in Taiwan. Tigerair Taiwan is struggling, V Air struggled during its existence, partially responsible for dragging TransAsia Airways into oblivion. Far Eastern Air Transport is coming up with ATR services to complement MD-80 series services, their B737NG plan was scrapped due to disagreement with ALC.
That being said, Mr Chang is launching the new carrier to seek "revenge" against his siblings and management at BR who ousted him from chairmanship while piloting a flight to oversea. Removed forcefully as said by media. The airline he proposed has been in media for sometimes, gathered more traction after TransAsia's dismissal. He have stated he may consider recruiting those ex-TransAsia staff. Btw, he has good business acumen too. Major improvement and awards that Eva Air has been achieving over the past few years are due to he and his team work.
Interesting time ahead for Taiwan aviation.
LAXintl wrote:More details coming out.
o Air carrier certification application to CAA planned by end of the year
o First flight 2019
o Business plan calls for fleet of 24 aircraft employing about 3,500 for the first 6-years.
o Plan A321 regional routes and A350/787/777 for longhaul
o Initial routes - Southeast and Northeast Asia in first year (BKK, SIN, KUL, HKG, MFM, Japan) and by second year, longhaul to US West Coast.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/arc ... 2003676463
http://focustaiwan.tw/news/aeco/201708120007.aspx
mercure1 wrote:Interesting to note the CEO says:
In a high profile talk, Chang vowed to make StarLux the “Emirates of Taiwan,” hinting that he will emulate the dramatic rise of Dubai’s carrier in the last two decades, which has grown from its humble beginning to become one of the largest airlines in the world.
Like the United Arab Emirates, Taiwan also has a relatively small population and limited domestic demand, especially when comparing to China. Yet similar to Dubai’s story in the Gulf States, Taiwan is strategically located in the center among the rapidly growing economies in Asia, and StarLux could theoretically duplicate Emirates’ success by transforming Taiwan into a connection hub for transcontinental flights.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/taiwan-so ... 28933.html
Big ambitions for sure.
juliuswong wrote:I don't think another low cost airline will work in Taiwan. Tigerair Taiwan is struggling, V Air struggled during its existence, partially responsible for dragging TransAsia Airways into oblivion. Far Eastern Air Transport is coming up with ATR services to complement MD-80 series services, their B737NG plan was scrapped due to disagreement with ALC.
That being said, Mr Chang is launching the new carrier to seek "revenge" against his siblings and management at BR who ousted him from chairmanship while piloting a flight to oversea. Removed forcefully as said by media. The airline he proposed has been in media for sometimes, gathered more traction after TransAsia's dismissal. He have stated he may consider recruiting those ex-TransAsia staff. Btw, he has good business acumen too. Major improvement and awards that Eva Air has been achieving over the past few years are due to he and his team work.
Interesting time ahead for Taiwan aviation.
trex8 wrote:I doubt EVA are going to be friendly and you know China wont. He wont have the deep pockets the Evergreen group had to prop up EVA when it started and was bleeding money for its first decade.. As BHOP pointed out getting rights to fly to good markets may be an issue. This may be one mans egotism which will make that joke about how do you make a million $ in the airline business, start with 2 million, true.
QuawerAir wrote:Beautiful livery. Hopefully, this airline will be successful. If StarLux will join an alliance in the future, could it be Oneworld, as EVA Air is a member of Star Alliance and China Airlines is in SkyTeam? Of course, there are some other alliances such as Value Alliance. But first, operations should be started.
juliuswong wrote:I don't think another low cost airline will work in Taiwan. Tigerair Taiwan is struggling, V Air struggled during its existence, partially responsible for dragging TransAsia Airways into oblivion. Far Eastern Air Transport is coming up with ATR services to complement MD-80 series services, their B737NG plan was scrapped due to disagreement with ALC.
That being said, Mr Chang is launching the new carrier to seek "revenge" against his siblings and management at BR who ousted him from chairmanship while piloting a flight to oversea. Removed forcefully as said by media. The airline he proposed has been in media for sometimes, gathered more traction after TransAsia's dismissal. He have stated he may consider recruiting those ex-TransAsia staff. Btw, he has good business acumen too. Major improvement and awards that Eva Air has been achieving over the past few years are due to he and his team work.
Interesting time ahead for Taiwan aviation.
LAXintl wrote:Some new news.
On May 2nd received a business certificate which clears way for Taiwan CAA to being certification process.
About to sign leases on 10 A321NEOs - first delivery Q3 2019
Japan "priority" market, along with Southeast Asia markets - Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Bali, Jakarta and Kuala Lumpur during the initial phase of the airline’s development.
Still reviewing widebody plans - 787/777 most likely for 2021 service entry for US service initially.
With limited size of Taiwan home market, transit customers will play big part in model.
bzcat wrote:TSA runway not long enough for long haul 777 flights to North America or Europe so those will need to depart from TPE.
PatrickZ80 wrote:bzcat wrote:TSA runway not long enough for long haul 777 flights to North America or Europe so those will need to depart from TPE.
No they don't. Taiwan has more airports than just those two, so they got plenty of choice. What about Kaohsiung (KHH)? With a 3150 meter runway flights to Europe or America should be no problem. And for a LCC, flying to an alternative airport isn't a problem. In fact, it can be a benefit as the people living in that area got less money to spend and are therefor more likely to fly an LCC. It also saves them the trouble of traveling halfway through the country first to catch a flight.
trex8 wrote:PatrickZ80 wrote:bzcat wrote:TSA runway not long enough for long haul 777 flights to North America or Europe so those will need to depart from TPE.
No they don't. Taiwan has more airports than just those two, so they got plenty of choice. What about Kaohsiung (KHH)? With a 3150 meter runway flights to Europe or America should be no problem. And for a LCC, flying to an alternative airport isn't a problem. In fact, it can be a benefit as the people living in that area got less money to spend and are therefor more likely to fly an LCC. It also saves them the trouble of traveling halfway through the country first to catch a flight.
IIRC CI tried KHH to US west coast years ago, didnt last long. All the other non Taipei cities are not large enough to support many international flights and I doubt lots of Taipei people will be traveling to KHH or anywhere just for a cheaper flight.
Also isn t the TSA issue the taxiways, not the runway per se? Unless the runway got shortened. All those 747s pre 79 used to fly from Shung Shan before Taoyuan/CKK existed.
behramjee wrote:He stands to make more money operating a dozen B77Fs rather than a full service premium pax carrier.
He should seriously consider the freighter business model where demand is guaranteed year round + much less intense competition + more liberal bilaterals + can take advantage of 5th freedom traffic rights.
junlinwong94 wrote:https://www.reuters.com/article/britain-airshow-starlux/airbus-near-deal-to-sell-a350s-to-taiwans-starlux-sources-idUSL8N1UB0Q2
thought they were leaning towards Boeing for widebodies but perhaps may be due to the A350-1000 world tour which took a stop at Taipei.
Well anything could happen soo
Anyways, possible to close this deal during the Farnborough Airshow 2018?