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Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Wed May 24, 2017 7:18 pm

According to the Argentinian media, Air Europa is to start a new flight to the Argentinian airport in Iguazu Falls via Rio de Janeiro.

So soon one will be able to book Charleroi-Iguazú in one ticket thanks to the new Air Europa / Ryanair agreement :D. Crazy.

http://www.telam.com.ar/notas/201705/19 ... hmidt.html

La aerolínea española Air Europa y las autoridades de la provincia de Misiones suscribirán esta semana el acuerdo que dejará inaugurada la ruta Madrid-Cataratas del Iguazú, que comenzará a operar durante el segundo semestre de este año.

El acuerdo se prevé firmar en la localidad de Puerto Iguazú, vecina a las cataratas, entre el 26 y 27 de mayo por el presidente de la compañía española, Juan José Hidalgo Acera, y autoridades de Misiones, en un acto al que asistirá el ministro de Turismo de la Nación, Gustavo Santos, informaron fuentes del sector turístico a Télam.

Los primeros pasajes comenzarán a venderse en junio próximo, para comenzar a volar en los meses subsiguientes en la ruta que conectará Madríd-Río de Janeiro-Cataratas, indicaron.

La iniciativa, destinada a llevar turistas europeos hacia uno de los destinos más visitados de Latinoamérica, surgió en 2016, a raíz de la firma del acuerdo para instalar la ruta que conecta Madrid y Córdoba vía Asunción del Paraguay.

Según fuentes del mercado consultadas por Télam, ejecutivos del grupo español Globalia, del que forma parte Air Europa, visitaron Argentina hace un mes y también mostraron interés en invertir en el sector hotelero en Buenos Aires y en las cataratas del Iguazú.

Para gestionar la ruta Madrid-Cataratas del Iguazú, el grupo español valoró, entre otros puntos, un informe de mercado "muy preciso y detallado con cifras y datos", que revelan el inestimable potencial del destino turístico de las cataratas, señalaron las fuentes.

Valoraron no sólo la afluencia turística sino también la viabilidad del potencial de Iguazú como sede del turismo de negocios, un segmento que permite contrarrestar la estacionalidad de los destinos con la organización de congresos, convenciones, conferencias y eventos diversos, explicaron.

Otro punto a favor de la ruta aérea Madrid-Cataratas es que la empresa española está satisfecha con la experiencia y el tráfico de la conexión Madrid-Córdoba, iniciada a fin de 2016, destacaron.

Juan José Hidalgo, propietario de Air Europa, es un empresario de origen español nacionalizado dominicano, propietario de Globalia Corporación Empresarial, el primer grupo turístico español al que pertenecen empresas como Air Europa y Halcón Viajes.
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Wed May 24, 2017 7:22 pm

Will the GIG-IGR sector be 5th freedom? Wish them luck on this route.
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Wed May 24, 2017 7:27 pm

lesfalls wrote:
Will the GIG-IGR sector be 5th freedom? Wish them luck on this route.


I would hope so, otherwise there would be no incentive whatsoever to choose the Argentine side.
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Wed May 24, 2017 8:03 pm

LGAviation wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
Will the GIG-IGR sector be 5th freedom? Wish them luck on this route.


I would hope so, otherwise there would be no incentive whatsoever to choose the Argentine side.


If UX will sign an agreement with the Misiones government it's easy to see that there are subsidies involved.

A nice way to sell a quasi-domestic sector. IGR is a short hop away from IGU, the border is easy to cross and SARI is completely capable to handle the A330.

It would be a nice way to use an aircraft that would stay idle at GIG (considering that UX will operate a schedule similar to the one currently used at GRU). Also, GIG's airport operator gives incentives to carriers offering new routes from there and IGR fits the description.

AR flew IGR-GIG a while back, it would not be surprising if AR codeshared with UX on the route.
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Thu May 25, 2017 12:15 am

LGAviation wrote:
lesfalls wrote:
Will the GIG-IGR sector be 5th freedom? Wish them luck on this route.


I would hope so, otherwise there would be no incentive whatsoever to choose the Argentine side.


Yes there are. UX has a larger presence in Argentina, and a commercial agreement with AR including codesharing from both EZE & COR, which means AR can deal with the flight and airport activities at IGR, as it is already the case in COR. And from a passenger's perspective, the Argentina side is better to experience the falls - the national park there allows you to walk almost up to the falls themselves. Additionally, and this is purely a personal taste, the hotels on the Argentina side tend to be a bit more upscale and right next to the falls, in the midst of the rain forest.
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Thu May 25, 2017 12:41 am

in brazil its THE hot topic of the moment, but people believe it will cost ryanair fares..... dream on....
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Mon May 29, 2017 12:57 am

The Globalia Group (parent co. of Air Europa) and the government of the Argentinian province of Misiones signed today in Puerto Iguazu (IGR) the agreement that paves the way for UX to start a MAD-GIG-IGR flight. Although no exact date was given for the first flight, they are expected to begin in 2018 with a 3x w frequency.
This connection to Europe will be a boon for the local tourism industry, which lost a big opportunity when in 2014 LATAM was denied authority to operate a LIM-IGR flight by Cristina Kirchner's administration, saying it was not in the best interest of AR. LATAM started flying LIM-IGU - and the business went to Brazil. That decision did not sit very well with the people of Misiones and to quiet down the noise, AR started a weekly IGR-GIG that did not help or last very long and was a colossal waste of tax payers' funds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTuorVU1-Xg

IGU will become UX's third destination in Argentina; this year the company expects to carry 275,000 passengers between Argentina and Spain, an 87% LF. IGU is the seventh busiest airport in Argentina in terms of passengers and grew 3.6% in 2016 v, 2015, and is connected not only to EZE and AEP but to ROS, COR, SLA and MDZ too.
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:40 pm

The MAD-IGR propoesed flight is back on the headlines, as Globalia (UX's parent co.) confirmed the flight yesterday during a meeting with Argentinian authorities in Buenos Aires during the WTTC. The announcement includes the opening of two Be Live branded hotels in Buenos Aires. Be Live is also owned by Globalia. According to Javier Hidalgo, Globalia's CEO, the flight will be operated twice a week, beginning in late 2018. No mention was made of the GIG stopover. IGR would then become UX's third destination in Argentina.

https://www.clarin.com/viajes/air-europ ... tLrnf.html
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:40 pm

UX need SCL,MEX,US West Coast direct from MAD.......not IGR
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:04 pm

dcajet wrote:
The MAD-IGR propoesed flight is back on the headlines, as Globalia (UX's parent co.) confirmed the flight yesterday during a meeting with Argentinian authorities in Buenos Aires during the WTTC. The announcement includes the opening of two Be Live branded hotels in Buenos Aires. Be Live is also owned by Globalia. According to Javier Hidalgo, Globalia's CEO, the flight will be operated twice a week, beginning in late 2018. No mention was made of the GIG stopover. IGR would then become UX's third destination in Argentina.

https://www.clarin.com/viajes/air-europ ... tLrnf.html


CORRECTION - the hotels will be in Iguazu, not in Buenos Aires.
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:07 pm

pabloeing wrote:
UX need SCL,MEX,US West Coast direct from MAD.......not IGR


I'd say that IGR is a play at the Globalia level - not just about UX alone but with their own hotels too.
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:08 pm

It's official - word from Air Europa:

https://twitter.com/AirEuropa/status/987010502206377985
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:29 pm

From what is has been said at WTTC. GIG Is no longer on Air Europa's plans.

Routing for the flight would be MAD-IGR-MVD-IGR-MAD, 2x week.

The hotels that Globalia is planning to build in Iguazu are 2 all inclusive resorts (plus 1 - not a resort - in Buenos Aires)

http://www.pulso.cl/fueradeserie/air-eu ... -e-iguazu/
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:43 pm

The news deserve a dedicated thread. The runway works in course are paying off for IGR.
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:11 pm

dcajet wrote:
From what is has been said at WTTC. GIG Is no longer on Air Europa's plans.

Routing for the flight would be MAD-IGR-MVD-IGR-MAD, 2x week.

The hotels that Globalia is planning to build in Iguazu are 2 all inclusive resorts (plus 1 - not a resort - in Buenos Aires)

http://www.pulso.cl/fueradeserie/air-eu ... -e-iguazu/


The rerouting they have announced is fascinating, as they (apparently) have 5th-freedom rights operating IGR-MVD-IGR. UX have a very different strategy from their 'peers', IB, LA, etc., in that they plan and schedule flight operations that complement their travel and lodging businesses. The IGR market has increased relevance and this flight means MVD will have 3 'single-flight' options to MAD via IB and UX.
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:35 pm

PDPsol wrote:
dcajet wrote:
From what is has been said at WTTC. GIG Is no longer on Air Europa's plans.

Routing for the flight would be MAD-IGR-MVD-IGR-MAD, 2x week.

The hotels that Globalia is planning to build in Iguazu are 2 all inclusive resorts (plus 1 - not a resort - in Buenos Aires)

http://www.pulso.cl/fueradeserie/air-eu ... -e-iguazu/


The rerouting they have announced is fascinating, as they (apparently) have 5th-freedom rights operating IGR-MVD-IGR. UX have a very different strategy from their 'peers', IB, LA, etc., in that they plan and schedule flight operations that complement their travel and lodging businesses. The IGR market has increased relevance and this flight means MVD will have 3 'single-flight' options to MAD via IB and UX.


Indeed, in fact they cite MVD as a source market for the IGR flights; apparently the Falls are popular with the "orientales". I agree this route has good potential with feed from Europe in one end and Uruguay on the other. Good to see Uruguay getting some TLC from UX.

Another feeder point to the flight are the Argentinian NE provinces of Misiones, Corrientes and Chaco that currently drive to ASU for the Europe flights. A good deal of the traffic on UX's flight to/fr MAD @ ASU are from those Argentinian provinces - especially from the cities of Resistencia, Corrientes and Posadas. IGR may syphon some traffic away from the ASU flight, shared with COR.
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:59 am

Fly them directly from MAD to IGR, have the people stay at one of their hotels, let them travel thru Argentina on AR (the domestic network is steadily not relying on AEP stops) and have them back in Buenos Aires (also staying at their hotels) to return on UX to MAD. It could work...
 
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Re: Air Europa to start Madrid-Rio de Janeiro-Cataratas del Iguazú (IGR)

Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:52 am

Tickets are on sale starting 1 June 2019. It will be a 2-weekly triangular route with Montevideo (MAD-IGR-MVD-MAD on Saturdays and MAD-MVD-IGR-MAD on Thursdays). According to the article in Spanish (below), tickets for Montevideo-Iguazú will be available (yet those are not bookable on Aireuropa.com).

https://www.elterritorio.com.ar/air-eur ... 0393997-et

Asimismo, se informó que el vuelo tendrá una duración de 9 horas, 10 minutos; con dos frecuencias semanales. En el caso de la primera, saldrá el sábado a las 23.55 del aeropuerto de Barajas, Madrid y aterrizará en Puerto Iguazú a las 7.05 de la mañana, sin escalas. En relación al regreso, este será vía Montevideo. Tal es el caso, que la aeronave despegará del aeropuerto misionero rumbo a la capital uruguaya, y de ahí a España.

La segunda frecuencia será los días jueves, con la conexión Madrid-Montevideo-Iguazú, y el regreso es directo. Esto beneficiará a los turistas de la tierra roja, a los de Europa y a los de Uruguay, que en una hora podrán estar en Cataratas, cuando antes demoraban 18 horas en automóvil.

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