dtw2hyd
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Tue May 16, 2017 12:29 am

UA has the lowest margins. For once it should listen to wall street and cut its network and close its hub.

There is no reason to have such vast network with 1.1% net margin and all the issues.
 
IPFreely
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Tue May 16, 2017 12:40 am

BobPatterson wrote:
Delta has the worst record in the industry for ultra-late flights.


Holy buckets -- 45 flights that are over 12 hours late? If that's how Delta claims they're cancelling cancellations it's outright fraud.
 
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Tue May 16, 2017 2:22 am

dtw2hyd wrote:
UA has the lowest margins. For once it should listen to wall street and cut its network and close its hub.

There is no reason to have such vast network with 1.1% net margin and all the issues.


What issues do you speak off? And which hub Mr. Arm Chair CEO
 
dtw2hyd
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Tue May 16, 2017 10:22 am

Wasn't there a discussion about IAD closing.

viewtopic.php?t=573811
 
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Tue May 16, 2017 2:04 pm

Oh, another PR disaster for United...Polaris. Announced over a year ago, and still only 3 or 4 birds in the entire United fleet that have all aisle access seating. Lets go United, get with the program. Unacceptable to a lot of United's highest paying customers and corporate clients. Promise a product and then don't deliver. That, is a PR disaster in its own right. Delta for example, is already starting its 2nd round of BE ultra elite, all aisle access seating. United, WAKE UP.
 
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Tue May 16, 2017 2:34 pm

jumbojet wrote:
Oh, another PR disaster for United...Polaris. Announced over a year ago, and still only 3 or 4 birds in the entire United fleet that have all aisle access seating. Lets go United, get with the program. Unacceptable to a lot of United's highest paying customers and corporate clients. Promise a product and then don't deliver. That, is a PR disaster in its own right. Delta for example, is already starting its 2nd round of BE ultra elite, all aisle access seating. United, WAKE UP.


It will take even longer to sign a contract and ramp up production with someone other than Zodiac. Blame Zodiac not much United can do about the seats.
 
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Tue May 16, 2017 3:13 pm

dtw2hyd wrote:
Wasn't there a discussion about IAD closing.

viewtopic.php?t=573811


There was never any discussion by the airline or anyone who makes decisions for United Airlines. It was just loud Wall Street analysts that want the airline to shrink to profitability and base their opinion off of how close IAD is to EWR. These analysts have no idea how to run an airline and look at the facts based off of money and not the operation.
 
dtw2hyd
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Tue May 16, 2017 3:27 pm

Ok, even if one doesn't believe wall street analysts, why spread the misery through out the country with 1.1% net margin.

Right size and provide good service, in the process lose the bad apples.
 
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Tue May 16, 2017 3:35 pm

jumbojet wrote:
Oh, another PR disaster for United...Polaris. Announced over a year ago, and still only 3 or 4 birds in the entire United fleet that have all aisle access seating. Lets go United, get with the program. Unacceptable to a lot of United's highest paying customers and corporate clients. Promise a product and then don't deliver. That, is a PR disaster in its own right. Delta for example, is already starting its 2nd round of BE ultra elite, all aisle access seating. United, WAKE UP.


I'm assuming then you are just as annoyed at DL and feel they have a massive PR issue on their hands as the new DL One suite was announced in August of 2016 yet won't be on a single operational plane until October/November of 2017..15 months after being introduced to the public..perhaps DL should get with the program?

I'm not sure why you believe an airline can snap its fingers and finish a retrofit program in an instant.

DL took 10 years to remove all of the barco loungers from their international fleet (the 8 77Es were the only ones to have lie flats with or without AAA for years.)

AA still doesn't have lie flats on their entire fleet and won't until later this year when the 77E program is complete.

In 1999/2000 UA installed lie flat "pod" seats in F and launched a new J class recliner style seat.
In 2006 IPTE was rolled out...the first US airline with lie flats in F/J.
In 2010, with the merger, B/E Diamond seats were added to the mix.
In December of 2017 the first Polaris equipped aircraft was rolled out...6 months after being introduced to the public.
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Tue May 16, 2017 3:38 pm

dtw2hyd wrote:
Ok, even if one doesn't believe wall street analysts, why spread the misery through out the country with 1.1% net margin.

Right size and provide good service, in the process lose the bad apples.


No company, or a smart investor, looks at a single quarter and feels they know the entire picture about their financial health...I would suggest you broaden your horizons a bit vs just trotting around a number.

P.S. listening to wall street may have contributed to their margin in Q1.
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CriticalPoint
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Tue May 16, 2017 3:40 pm

dtw2hyd wrote:
Ok, even if one doesn't believe wall street analysts, why spread the misery through out the country with 1.1% net margin.

Right size and provide good service, in the process lose the bad apples.


See thats the problem what misery is United spreading throughout the country?

United provides great service. 99% completion factor nearly every month and the months they miss they are 98%. They led the big 4 in on time arrivals last month and are leading by a lot this month. And the months they didn't lead they fell to a close second behind DL. They offer first class and economy plus. You get meals, free entertainment and a clean aircraft. If you go to EWR from LAX/SFO you are guaranteed a lie flat seat in First class. 99% of the employees are friendly and professional, and you are on an airline with one of the best safety records in the world. You have access to one of, if not the best, route structures in the world and all star alliance.

Sounds like a great service to me........not sure what bad apples to eliminate.
 
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Tue May 16, 2017 4:10 pm

dtw2hyd wrote:
UA has the lowest margins. For once it should listen to wall street and cut its network and close its hub.

There is no reason to have such vast network with 1.1% net margin and all the issues.


Please tell me you aren't basing UA's margin on the 1st quarter...
It is always darkest before the sun comes up.
 
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Tue May 16, 2017 4:14 pm

United1 wrote:
No company, or a smart investor, looks at a single quarter and feels they know the entire picture about their financial health...I would suggest you broaden your horizons a bit vs just trotting around a number.


Please stop responding to the troll. If people would just ignore him he will go away.
 
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More UA Woes; National Guard Soldier forced to pay bag fees

Fri May 19, 2017 8:59 pm

http://www.fox7austin.com/news/local-ne ... 0202-story

I know some of you will argue that policy is policy. But in light of the latest backlash from the news and social media outlets, you would think someone would make the call here.
 
DC1979
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Re: More UA Woes; National Guard Soldier forced to pay bag fees

Fri May 19, 2017 9:09 pm

Why should they? I don't think United should just allow everything to slide now. Should they just toss out all the rules? You're absolutely right...policy is policy. It either applies to everyone or it doesn't at all. The military already gets a generous baggage allowance. They're not entitled to more just because. If you don't follow the rules, then expect to pay.
 
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Re: More UA Woes; National Guard Soldier forced to pay bag fees

Fri May 19, 2017 9:12 pm

The weight restriction is lower than that of other airlines (100lbs) but they do allow $50 bags up to 99.9lbs for media, not sure why they can't extend the same limit.
 
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Re: More UA Woes; National Guard Soldier forced to pay bag fees

Fri May 19, 2017 9:23 pm

indcwby wrote:
http://www.fox7austin.com/news/local-news/255030202-story

I know some of you will argue that policy is policy. But in light of the latest backlash from the news and social media outlets, you would think someone would make the call here.


Having served in the Air Force and traveled frequently, this is the complete wrong way of doing things on the half of the soldier.
The DoD will reimburse you for any expenses you incur while traveling, and that includes bag fees. It's a simple form you fill out and you'll get your money back.
Hopefully the Army will make this guy push for his stupidity.
 
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Re: More UA Woes; National Guard Soldier forced to pay bag fees

Fri May 19, 2017 9:30 pm

This sense of entitlement that everyone feels must stop. And these petty airlines stories must also stop. It's like every news outlet is waiting for the next juicy airline story. The Lieutenant's career choices have nothing to do with the airline's policy or his want to skirt limits, his bags were overweight and he has to pay. If he has a mechanism to get reimbursement, he goes gets it, especially given that it is combat gear he is carrying.

IIRC in some parts of the world, bags' maximum weights were set because of occupational and safety rules. Just because he served overseas does not exempt him from it.
 
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Re: More UA Woes; National Guard Soldier forced to pay bag fees

Fri May 19, 2017 9:33 pm

He sounds like he just wants to get his picture in the paper.

Buddy, the service reimburses you for this. Stop acting like you're this poor, persecuted soul because you don't understand the standard procedures.
 
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Re: More UA Woes; National Guard Soldier forced to pay bag fees

Fri May 19, 2017 9:57 pm

indcwby wrote:
http://www.fox7austin.com/news/local-news/255030202-story

I know some of you will argue that policy is policy. But in light of the latest backlash from the news and social media outlets, you would think someone would make the call here.


And they go around calling others "entitled"
 
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Re: More UA Woes; National Guard Soldier forced to pay bag fees

Fri May 19, 2017 11:21 pm

I served in the early 1970's and I for one is really tired of these current active duty service members with their entitled mentality. For goodness sake, this clown is an 0-2 therefore he could easily paid the bill and get reimbursed by the DOD, it's not like he is private is isn't making any money..
 
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Unruly Passenger Carried off United Flight 87 PVG-EWR

Tue May 23, 2017 7:47 am

Seriously, there are so many messed up people in this world today. Second time this flight has made headlines involving unruly passengers. This time, it is an American.

http://shanghaiist.com/2017/05/23/trump ... -delay.php

http://time.com/4789171/donald-trump-ha ... w_facebook
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Re: Unruly Trump Supporter Carried off United Flight 87 PVG-EWR

Tue May 23, 2017 7:57 am

Him wearing that hat had nothing to do with this story. That was the only thing trump related about it.

Sensationalist click bait article.
 
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Re: Unruly Passenger Carried off United Flight 87 PVG-EWR

Tue May 23, 2017 4:23 pm

theasianguy wrote:
Seriously, there are so many messed up people in this world today. Second time this flight has made headlines involving unruly passengers. This time, it is an American.

http://shanghaiist.com/2017/05/23/trump ... -delay.php

http://time.com/4789171/donald-trump-ha ... w_facebook


The public is getting exactly what it has asked for. How many flights now in the last month and a half have been completely deplaned to remove 1 passenger?

Long delays are stacking up and now we have atleast 1 diversion that could have been avoided. the passengers all of the sudden aren't mad at the airlines they are mad at the idiot.......I hope you like this new way of doing business.
 
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Re: Unruly Trump Supporter Carried off United Flight 87 PVG-EWR

Tue May 23, 2017 4:30 pm

OneSexyL1011 wrote:
Him wearing that hat had nothing to do with this story. That was the only thing trump related about it.


He called another passenger "Hillary" as if he considered that an insult. I'd call that Trump related.
 
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Sat May 27, 2017 6:17 pm

United's dragging incident pulls down carrier's brand perception to historic lows




http://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/news ... yptr=yahoo
"We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
 
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Re: UA's ongoing PR issues

Sat May 27, 2017 6:24 pm

727LOVER wrote:
United's dragging incident pulls down carrier's brand perception to historic lows




http://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/news ... yptr=yahoo


And skyrockets their stock, bookings, and load factors to record levels.

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