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Allegiant RFD MD80 Summer Usage and Beyond

Fri May 19, 2017 4:39 am

Hello, I''m curious to know what G4's plans are for their MD80 fleet utilization out of RFD during the busy summer season. And likely utilization into the fall (in case any existing routes are expected to become A320, as MD retirements occur through EOY).

I believe LAS still sees regular MD80s. Given the 3+ hour stage length, is it expected to turn Airbus soon? What other markets are served directly from RFD with MDs and are a safe bet for 2017?

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Re: Allegiant RFD MD80 Summer Usage and Beyond

Fri May 19, 2017 11:19 pm

Does anyone have any insight to offer?
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Re: Allegiant RFD MD80 Summer Usage and Beyond

Sat May 20, 2017 12:10 am

Do I know? No. But G4 will retire MD-80s as A329s arrive. G4 doesn't allocate by flight, but by the package of flights an airframe will fly that day.

The most intense will be assigned new A320s as they become available. IIRC, there are currently a dozen of those daily plane assignments at Allegiant where there are enough hours flown that a new A320, despite the high lease payments, costs less to fly than the used A320s.

Then there are packages of flights where a used A320 or A319 is the best choice.

There are still a number flown where the daily utilization is so low only a paid off airframe makes sense. We now see the oldet A319s entering that stage. This is why by 2020 G4 may retire the MD-80s.

So I cannot speak on a specific set of routes. 3 hours there and back each way makes sense to remain an MD-80. But if the plane is or will be flying side routes, either the A319 or A320 will replace it soon.

G4 bought new to both secure enough A320s to phase out the MD-80s but also improve their negotiation position buying used.

Here is the irony, buying new, G4 will learn which groupings of aircraft routings would be even more profitable with a NEO. I fully expect that going forward new aircraft sales will be so competitive that either Pratt or CFM will try to discount enough to sell the NEO to Allegiant

Note:. I'm a fan of Allegiant's business model, but not so much how they manage their maintenance.

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Re: Allegiant RFD MD80 Summer Usage and Beyond

Sat May 20, 2017 12:57 am

G4 does not base any aircraft in RFD, they are all deployed from other hubs. LAS will remain a MD80 until at least Q4-2017, when the first airbuses begin to come to LAS. Based on distance I doubt RFD would be the first to go airbus, but could happen sooner than later.
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Re: Allegiant RFD MD80 Summer Usage and Beyond

Sat May 20, 2017 1:05 am

By the end of this year, the only G4 bases with the MD-80 will be LAS and SFB.

By 2019, the last MD-80s will be retired, and LAS will be the last base - largely because of the unique way LAS calculates landing fees. Most airports calculate landing fees by aircraft weight, while LAS uses aircraft type. And LAS charges far more for an A319 or A320 than an MD-80 despite the similarities in weight, so that is why LAS is last to see the A320 family and will be the last to go all-Airbus.
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