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Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Tue May 16, 2017 5:13 pm

The Brazilian press is highlighting that Qatar Airways has confirmed the beginning of it's new services to GIG and SCL: January 30th, 2018.

The flight will be operated on Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Sundays with the A359 (QR configuration). The service is scheduled to land at GIG at 5pm and is slated to takeoff back to Doha at 05h45am the following day.

Link: http://www.melhoresdestinos.com.br/qata ... -a350.html
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Tue May 16, 2017 5:24 pm

Guess the JJ birds will come home for a bit.
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Tue May 16, 2017 5:25 pm

gatibosgru wrote:
Guess the JJ birds will come home for a bit.


As stated above: the flight will not be made with the JJ A350s.
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Tue May 16, 2017 5:53 pm

Is that official?
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Tue May 16, 2017 6:00 pm

Yet people save most of their energy to complain about EK and its ambitions.
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Wed May 17, 2017 1:16 am

With vegas being pushed farther and farther down the line, I doubt that this is the date GIG will actually start
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Wed May 17, 2017 8:37 am

The ME3 have decided they get free advertising for their airline if they every month start announcing things or make statements to the press. No need for big marketing campaigns if your name is in the papers daily about routes you pretend you are going to start, or airplanes you are going to receive or buy.
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Wed May 17, 2017 10:17 am

b747400erf wrote:
The ME3 have decided they get free advertising for their airline if they every month start announcing things or make statements to the press. No need for big marketing campaigns if your name is in the papers daily about routes you pretend you are going to start, or airplanes you are going to receive or buy.

The US3 have decided they get free advertising for their airline if they every month spark some controversy. No need for big marketing campaigns if your name is in the papers daily about people you drag off your planes, or whacking moms with strollers.
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Wed May 17, 2017 10:40 am

rebr wrote:
b747400erf wrote:
The ME3 have decided they get free advertising for their airline if they every month start announcing things or make statements to the press. No need for big marketing campaigns if your name is in the papers daily about routes you pretend you are going to start, or airplanes you are going to receive or buy.

The US3 have decided they get free advertising for their airline if they every month spark some controversy. No need for big marketing campaigns if your name is in the papers daily about people you drag off your planes, or whacking moms with strollers.

That is nice but is not related to my comment or this topic.
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:19 pm

Qatar Airways filed the request to the Brazilian authorities for the route and it was swiftly approved as follows:

EFF 28JAN18

QR775 - DOH 21h35 16h55+1 GIG 18h15+1 21h30+1 SCL - xTuFrSu - A359 (QR metal)
QR776 - SCL 23h45 04h30+1 GIG 05h45+1 23h45+1 DOH - xMoWeSa - A359 (QR metal)

It will definetly put some pressure on EK on GIG.
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:26 pm

0515 departure from GIG!!!! I suppose can party all night then head for the airport
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:16 pm

AF086 wrote:
Qatar Airways filed the request to the Brazilian authorities for the route and it was swiftly approved as follows:

EFF 28JAN18

QR775 - DOH 21h35 16h55+1 GIG 18h15+1 21h30+1 SCL - xTuFrSu - A359 (QR metal)
QR776 - SCL 23h45 04h30+1 GIG 05h45+1 23h45+1 DOH - xMoWeSa - A359 (QR metal)

It will definetly put some pressure on EK on GIG.


The departure time from Doha is not correct - if it'd be like it's stated on here, it would be like a 24 hour flight between DOH - GIG. Westbound, it is also a same day arrival and departure, so the +1 are also not correct. The only leg where the +1 applies would be on the SCL-GIG leg.
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:41 pm

Does the 359 have the range to fly DOH-GIG? Is there any payload restriction? Given the flights cannot overfly Saudi Arabia and will have to wrap around the Peninsula?
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:00 pm

dcajet wrote:
AF086 wrote:
Qatar Airways filed the request to the Brazilian authorities for the route and it was swiftly approved as follows:

EFF 28JAN18

QR775 - DOH 21h35 16h55+1 GIG 18h15+1 21h30+1 SCL - xTuFrSu - A359 (QR metal)
QR776 - SCL 23h45 04h30+1 GIG 05h45+1 23h45+1 DOH - xMoWeSa - A359 (QR metal)

It will definetly put some pressure on EK on GIG.


The departure time from Doha is not correct - if it'd be like it's stated on here, it would be like a 24 hour flight between DOH - GIG. Westbound, it is also a same day arrival and departure, so the +1 are also not correct. The only leg where the +1 applies would be on the SCL-GIG leg.


Brazilian authorities publish the flight schedules on Brazil time so there was a bit of a mix up on the time zone conversion. Please find it corrected.

EFF 28JAN18

QR775 - DOH 07h35 16h55 GIG 18h15 21h30 SCL - xTuFrSu - A359 (QR metal)
QR776 - SCL 23h45 04h30+1 GIG 05h45+1 23h45+1 DOH - xTuFrSu - A359 (QR metal)

As for the +1 the plane leaves GIG and arrives at DOH the following day it left Chile so I believe that the +1 is just fine.
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:21 am

Nice to see their expansion, but having been to GIG, I personally don't think it would be too safe to travel to GIG at 2 am in the morning..... :duck:

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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:12 am

raylee67 wrote:
Does the 359 have the range to fly DOH-GIG?


No, a major airline intentionally schedules it with a plane with inadequate range. ;-)
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:34 am

Pe@rson wrote:
raylee67 wrote:
Does the 359 have the range to fly DOH-GIG?


No, a major airline intentionally schedules it with a plane with inadequate range. ;-)

LMAO
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:23 am

It's about 200 miles less than SQ's SIN-SFO on their A359's.
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:02 pm

I´ve been reading about this possible route for months, but QR has not officialy announce it yet, does anyone know why? To launch a route just 4 months in advance doesn´t look right.
How is the situation between Qatar and its neighbours? Is it affecting its DOH - GRU route?
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:15 am

descl wrote:
I´ve been reading about this possible route for months, but QR has not officialy announce it yet, does anyone know why? To launch a route just 4 months in advance doesn´t look right.
How is the situation between Qatar and its neighbours? Is it affecting its DOH - GRU route?


QR has been loading schedules to cities previously announced, such as CWL. GIG and SCL fall in that category too.

Indeed, the GRU - EZE flight takes a hit from the sanctions imposed on Qatar. Previously the flight went straight over the KSA where as now it must detour around Oman. This adds around ninety minutes to the flight.
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:52 am

AF086 wrote:
Brazilian authorities publish the flight schedules on Brazil time so there was a bit of a mix up on the time zone conversion. Please find it corrected.

EFF 28JAN18

QR775 - DOH 07h35 16h55 GIG 18h15 21h30 SCL - xTuFrSu - A359 (QR metal)
QR776 - SCL 23h45 04h30+1 GIG 05h45+1 23h45+1 DOH - xTuFrSu - A359 (QR metal)

As for the +1 the plane leaves GIG and arrives at DOH the following day it left Chile so I believe that the +1 is just fine.


This departure time out of GIG to DOH will not be popular. No Brazilian airline staff in their right mind would schedule a long-haul flight leaving GIG at 5:45 am. The road to GIG is not particularly safe in the middle of the night.
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:23 am

Unfortunately I can't provide any source, but this flight will not occur until W18, or when this regional crisis ends. The extended flight times caused by the Saudi/Egyptian airspace closure as well as having no traffic to/from those markets means this route no longer makes economic sense. I expect this application was made before all the GCC kerfuffle kicked off.
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:30 am

The Egypt+GCC boycott is obviously putting serious pressure on the entire QR network. They relied on feed from UAE, Saudi etc. for just about their entire route network, whereas flights from Egypt mostly fed anything eastbound of DOH. A very rough analogy would be BA not having access to France, Germany and Ireland, or SQ not flying to Malaysia, Thailand and China.
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:16 am

incitatus wrote:
AF086 wrote:
Brazilian authorities publish the flight schedules on Brazil time so there was a bit of a mix up on the time zone conversion. Please find it corrected.

EFF 28JAN18

QR775 - DOH 07h35 16h55 GIG 18h15 21h30 SCL - xTuFrSu - A359 (QR metal)
QR776 - SCL 23h45 04h30+1 GIG 05h45+1 23h45+1 DOH - xTuFrSu - A359 (QR metal)

As for the +1 the plane leaves GIG and arrives at DOH the following day it left Chile so I believe that the +1 is just fine.


This departure time out of GIG to DOH will not be popular. No Brazilian airline staff in their right mind would schedule a long-haul flight leaving GIG at 5:45 am. The road to GIG is not particularly safe in the middle of the night.



Qatar's main conexion bank at DOH takes place between 02:00 - 03:00 am, so if they want to offer good conexions ex-GIG they do not have much choice. Leave before midnight and passengers will have to wait 6+ hours at DOH, leave after 07:00 and the connecting flights are gone.

An interesting option for many passengers worried about safety is to spend the previous night at one of GIG's nearby hotels.
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:17 am

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This departure time out of GIG to DOH will not be popular. No Brazilian airline staff in their right mind would schedule a long-haul flight leaving GIG at 5:45 am. The road to GIG is not particularly safe in the middle of the night.


That is simply not true. There are no reports of the road being particularly unsafe during the night. It's just in your head.

Most reports of incidents that have ever occurred take place in a section of the road outside city limits way beyond the airport, where traffic to the airport is almost non-existing.

In fact, AVIANCA's flight to LIM departs on the same time and has been successful for years.

jbflyguy84 wrote:
I expect this application was made before all the GCC kerfuffle kicked off.


Well, the application was filed this week, so QR is either losing its own time or they have firm plans.
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:25 am

In another new route announcement by QR, they have confirmed CWL will start daily from 1st May with B788, not with an A321NEO as has been predicted on here.
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:23 pm

MD80MKE wrote:
Pe@rson wrote:
raylee67 wrote:
Does the 359 have the range to fly DOH-GIG?


No, a major airline intentionally schedules it with a plane with inadequate range. ;-)

LMAO


hahaha love it. Perfect satire :D
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:54 pm

C010T3 wrote:
incitatus wrote:
This departure time out of GIG to DOH will not be popular. No Brazilian airline staff in their right mind would schedule a long-haul flight leaving GIG at 5:45 am. The road to GIG is not particularly safe in the middle of the night.


Most reports of incidents that have ever occurred take place in a section of the road outside city limits way beyond the airport, where traffic to the airport is almost non-existing.

In fact, AVIANCA's flight to LIM departs on the same time and has been successful for years.

jbflyguy84 wrote:
I expect this application was made before all the GCC kerfuffle kicked off.


Well, the application was filed this week, so QR is either losing its own time or they have firm plans.


Indeed. There are other flights in the wee hours as well at GIG and they perform pretty well:

TA920 - GIG-LIM - 05h45
JJ3076 - GIG-VIX - 06h00
AD4356 - GIG-VCP - 06h00
O66255 - GIG-GRU - 06h15
JJ8020 - GIG-SCL - 06h20

QR will fit right in with TACA, I don't see the timing as an issue in that case. Also the first European arrivals (LH, AF, AZ, TP) also land between 04h30 and 06h00 so the terminal will not be empty as well.
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:48 pm

dcajet wrote:
Indeed, the GRU - EZE flight takes a hit from the sanctions imposed on Qatar. Previously the flight went straight over the KSA where as now it must detour around Oman. This adds around ninety minutes to the flight.

They probably expect the situation will be solved soon? It seems unreasonable to start that route under these circumstances.

jbflyguy84 wrote:
Unfortunately I can't provide any source, but this flight will not occur until W18, or when this regional crisis ends. The extended flight times caused by the Saudi/Egyptian airspace closure as well as having no traffic to/from those markets means this route no longer makes economic sense. I expect this application was made before all the GCC kerfuffle kicked off.


1 month ago (after the crisis started), SCL CEO officially announced the arrival of Qatar Airways to Chile during the summer (Jan/Feb), so it's all very confusing.
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:18 pm

descl wrote:
so it's all very confusing.


It certainly is, hence I wish I could share the presentation that was shown to me the other day regarding the postponement of this launch (and others)
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces beginning of services to GIG and SCL

Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:45 pm

I was in just in Atlanta and was near the QR flight to DOH. I only saw Indians and Asians boarding. I don't think there were any Arabs. I hope this dispute can end soon.

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