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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:17 am

TheGeordielad wrote:
anshabhi wrote:
engine type?

CFMs


You mean Leap-1B, CFM was on A320 series.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:28 am

rbavfan wrote:
TheGeordielad wrote:
anshabhi wrote:
engine type?

CFMs


You mean Leap-1B, CFM was on A320 series.


The LEAP engine is made by CFM... Also the LEAP-1B is on the MAX. A320neo has LEAP-1A
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:35 am

lee757 wrote:
QueenoftheSkies wrote:
petera380 wrote:
It will be in Alaska Airlines colors soon! :D


Unfortunately


+1 what was the point in buying it to just get rid of it. :roll:


It would cost Alaska to much money to drop the orders. They bought the Alaska & all it's dept., including contracts.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:42 am

ikolkyo wrote:
rbavfan wrote:
TheGeordielad wrote:
CFMs


You mean Leap-1B, CFM was on A320 series.


The LEAP engine is made by CFM... Also the LEAP-1B is on the MAX. A320neo has LEAP-1A


True I ment the 1A. However The NG & A320ceo were called CFM56, the new engines do not use that terminology. They refer to the older engines as CFM56 & the new engines as LEAP. They refer to the company as CFM.

https://www.cfmaeroengines.com/engines/leap/
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:20 pm

rbavfan wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
rbavfan wrote:

You mean Leap-1B, CFM was on A320 series.


The LEAP engine is made by CFM... Also the LEAP-1B is on the MAX. A320neo has LEAP-1A


True I ment the 1A. However The NG & A320ceo were called CFM56, the new engines do not use that terminology. They refer to the older engines as CFM56 & the new engines as LEAP. They refer to the company as CFM.

https://www.cfmaeroengines.com/engines/leap/


You're looking to far into that other guy's response. He just said the aircraft has CFMs. It's just like saying the aircraft has PWs. The CFM56 and LEAP are from 1 company called CFM International.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:21 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
rbavfan wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:


The LEAP engine is made by CFM... Also the LEAP-1B is on the MAX. A320neo has LEAP-1A


True I ment the 1A. However The NG & A320ceo were called CFM56, the new engines do not use that terminology. They refer to the older engines as CFM56 & the new engines as LEAP. They refer to the company as CFM.

https://www.cfmaeroengines.com/engines/leap/


You're looking to far into that other guy's response. He just said the aircraft has CFMs. It's just like saying the aircraft has PWs. The CFM56 and LEAP are from 1 company called CFM International.


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Perhaps we should lobby the mods for a pedant forum to relieve us from their posts.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:08 pm

OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?


Because "in two years" is not, like, now?
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:59 pm

Airinsight issued issued their opinion about the A321Neo delivery to VX.

This has been well discussed here and summarized in one sentence it can be the bird which makes AS thinking about being no longer "Proudly All Boeing". So its not really news for the forum.

https://airinsight.com/2017/04/20/a321n ... ectations/

Time will tell.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:57 pm

SQ22 wrote:
Airinsight issued issued their opinion about the A321Neo delivery to VX.

This has been well discussed here and summarized in one sentence it can be the bird which makes AS thinking about being no longer "Proudly All Boeing". So its not really news for the forum.

https://airinsight.com/2017/04/20/a321n ... ectations/

Time will tell.


This was a pretty well written article. For sentimental reasons, I wish AS will stay all Boeing. And you can probably guess that I'm not unbiased. However, AS is a very well run company that I'm sure will make good fleet decisions for more than sentimental reasons.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:56 pm

Nicoeddf wrote:
OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?


Because "in two years" is not, like, now?


But then you're spending extra money for a brand-new plane for no reason.
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:05 pm

OA940 wrote:
Nicoeddf wrote:
OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?


Because "in two years" is not, like, now?


But then you're spending extra money for a brand-new plane for no reason.


The lead time on cabin interiors is over 6 months. Alaska has never designed an Airbus interior so to get their carpets, galley configuration, seats, etc it likely will be 8-12 months. They can't easily swap the interior. Paint is a bit easier, but changing the paint late in the production process adds cost and can delay delivery. Airbus does not like designing a paint scheme and ordering paint and then having to change it since the airline wants a different one.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:10 pm

OA940 wrote:
Nicoeddf wrote:
OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?


Because "in two years" is not, like, now?


But then you're spending extra money for a brand-new plane for no reason.


Things like new cabin interiors and liveries don't materialize instantaneously and take time to work out. It's typical in these situations that both brands continue to receive aircraft in their current livery/cabin/configuration until those details can be fully developed.
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:30 pm

OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?


This exact question has been answered 2 or 3 times already up thread.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:30 pm

CanadaFair wrote:
Polot wrote:
CanadaFair wrote:
Why not the revised look titles? website has it since a couple of years but no new aircraft getting it?

What's the point? The VX livery will be gone in a few years.

Its a long time and this is a brand new aircraft, the website is showing new title and fonts since two years, its the US not some backwardf society to whom such things are irrelevant and its Virgin brand not some third rate carrier.


Classy comment.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:03 am

Lovely aircraft, would look really nice in AS colours.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:12 am

Are those American flags on the wingtips? Those look great :D *coughamericancough*
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:38 am

The second route for the VX A321neo has been announced...SFO to JFK (afternoon arrival and evening departure on VX22/29), starting in mid-June

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... ns-in-s17/
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:14 am

AS has committed to taking 4 more A321NEOs, and then later this year, they will make a decision about the fleet going forward. This A321 comes with the groan-worthy name of "NEO Kid on the Block" which prompted Ben Minicucci to remark that he's looking forward to seeing if this airplane has all the "right stuff." (This is where I planted my forehead against my phone when reading his e-mail, by the way).
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:49 am

OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?

You could read the thread before posting to find out.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:06 am

ahj2000 wrote:
Are those American flags on the wingtips? Those look great :D *coughamericancough*


That would be great!
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:31 am

PlanesNTrains wrote:
F9Animal wrote:
I absolutely love the 321! It's just a sexy looking airplane. I am surprised they didn't paint this in Alaska colors. I will miss Virgin America, but I sure hope Alaska keeps the Airbus.


In one of the threads somebody - possibly EA CO AS - said that the first one or two A321s would be in the VX livery since they were already in process. Beyond that, I believe they'll be in Alaska colors. I think they'll look awesome in either.


I have to be honest. I am a bit bored looking up and seeing the same old AS 737's. So, it will be a great for my eyes when I can see an AS 321 streaking past my house. So, for us spotters, we have a great treat coming! I hope to see something even cooler in my lifetime. I am just waiting for the day that AS has widebody aircraft. Many have told me it would never happen, but I recall most of the nay sayers said that about Alaska ever flying to Hawaii. So..... Anything is possible in our own little airline world. :)
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:20 am

The A321neo is my favorite Airbus aircraft besides the A350-1000! :bouncy: Look at her! Tall, nicely proportioned (though I wish the wings were a little bit bigger), bigger engines, comfortable!

I, for one, am glad we get to see it in VX colors! I'm more excited for AA to get the A321neo though.
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat May 27, 2017 1:53 pm

So anyone has the cabin pictures yet?
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat May 27, 2017 5:51 pm

Slash787 wrote:
So anyone has the cabin pictures yet?

I found this picture on instagram http://instagram.fabe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/18512605_288024748303268_4585192748885213184_n.jpg
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat May 27, 2017 6:09 pm

MesserJ wrote:
Slash787 wrote:
So anyone has the cabin pictures yet?

I found this picture on instagram http://instagram.fabe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/18512605_288024748303268_4585192748885213184_n.jpg


Thanks for the cabin pic. The furnishings look identical, if not similar to, the A320. F class is a long way, but the plexiglass class divider, LEDS and white seats (presumably leather) look like a repeat as well. I was hope for a refresh in the First Class seating. Not that it's bad, but the two rows of 2+2 Recaro recliners, at large pitch, is hardly innovative.

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