rbavfan
Posts: 1265
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:53 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:17 am

TheGeordielad wrote:
anshabhi wrote:
engine type?

CFMs


You mean Leap-1B, CFM was on A320 series.
 
ikolkyo
Posts: 585
Joined: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:43 pm

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:28 am

rbavfan wrote:
TheGeordielad wrote:
anshabhi wrote:
engine type?

CFMs


You mean Leap-1B, CFM was on A320 series.


The LEAP engine is made by CFM... Also the LEAP-1B is on the MAX. A320neo has LEAP-1A
 
rbavfan
Posts: 1265
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:53 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:35 am

lee757 wrote:
QueenoftheSkies wrote:
petera380 wrote:
It will be in Alaska Airlines colors soon! :D


Unfortunately


+1 what was the point in buying it to just get rid of it. :roll:


It would cost Alaska to much money to drop the orders. They bought the Alaska & all it's dept., including contracts.
 
rbavfan
Posts: 1265
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:53 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:42 am

ikolkyo wrote:
rbavfan wrote:
TheGeordielad wrote:
CFMs


You mean Leap-1B, CFM was on A320 series.


The LEAP engine is made by CFM... Also the LEAP-1B is on the MAX. A320neo has LEAP-1A


True I ment the 1A. However The NG & A320ceo were called CFM56, the new engines do not use that terminology. They refer to the older engines as CFM56 & the new engines as LEAP. They refer to the company as CFM.

https://www.cfmaeroengines.com/engines/leap/
 
ikolkyo
Posts: 585
Joined: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:43 pm

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:20 pm

rbavfan wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
rbavfan wrote:

You mean Leap-1B, CFM was on A320 series.


The LEAP engine is made by CFM... Also the LEAP-1B is on the MAX. A320neo has LEAP-1A


True I ment the 1A. However The NG & A320ceo were called CFM56, the new engines do not use that terminology. They refer to the older engines as CFM56 & the new engines as LEAP. They refer to the company as CFM.

https://www.cfmaeroengines.com/engines/leap/


You're looking to far into that other guy's response. He just said the aircraft has CFMs. It's just like saying the aircraft has PWs. The CFM56 and LEAP are from 1 company called CFM International.
 
Chaostheory
Posts: 900
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:09 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:21 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
rbavfan wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:


The LEAP engine is made by CFM... Also the LEAP-1B is on the MAX. A320neo has LEAP-1A


True I ment the 1A. However The NG & A320ceo were called CFM56, the new engines do not use that terminology. They refer to the older engines as CFM56 & the new engines as LEAP. They refer to the company as CFM.

https://www.cfmaeroengines.com/engines/leap/


You're looking to far into that other guy's response. He just said the aircraft has CFMs. It's just like saying the aircraft has PWs. The CFM56 and LEAP are from 1 company called CFM International.


:checkmark:

Bloody pedants are ruining these forums.

Perhaps we should lobby the mods for a pedant forum to relieve us from their posts.
 
Nicoeddf
Posts: 548
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:13 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:08 pm

OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?


Because "in two years" is not, like, now?
Enslave yourself to the divine disguised as salvation
that your bought with your sacrifice
Deception justified for your holy design
High on our platform spewing out your crimes
from the altar of god
 
User avatar
SQ22
Crew
Posts: 500
Joined: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:29 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:59 pm

Airinsight issued issued their opinion about the A321Neo delivery to VX.

This has been well discussed here and summarized in one sentence it can be the bird which makes AS thinking about being no longer "Proudly All Boeing". So its not really news for the forum.

https://airinsight.com/2017/04/20/a321n ... ectations/

Time will tell.
 
BoeingGuy
Posts: 4165
Joined: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:01 pm

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:57 pm

SQ22 wrote:
Airinsight issued issued their opinion about the A321Neo delivery to VX.

This has been well discussed here and summarized in one sentence it can be the bird which makes AS thinking about being no longer "Proudly All Boeing". So its not really news for the forum.

https://airinsight.com/2017/04/20/a321n ... ectations/

Time will tell.


This was a pretty well written article. For sentimental reasons, I wish AS will stay all Boeing. And you can probably guess that I'm not unbiased. However, AS is a very well run company that I'm sure will make good fleet decisions for more than sentimental reasons.
 
User avatar
OA940
Posts: 327
Joined: Fri May 20, 2016 6:18 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:56 pm

Nicoeddf wrote:
OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?


Because "in two years" is not, like, now?


But then you're spending extra money for a brand-new plane for no reason.
 
Newbiepilot
Posts: 944
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:18 pm

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:05 pm

OA940 wrote:
Nicoeddf wrote:
OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?


Because "in two years" is not, like, now?


But then you're spending extra money for a brand-new plane for no reason.


The lead time on cabin interiors is over 6 months. Alaska has never designed an Airbus interior so to get their carpets, galley configuration, seats, etc it likely will be 8-12 months. They can't easily swap the interior. Paint is a bit easier, but changing the paint late in the production process adds cost and can delay delivery. Airbus does not like designing a paint scheme and ordering paint and then having to change it since the airline wants a different one.
 
wn676
Posts: 1361
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:33 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:10 pm

OA940 wrote:
Nicoeddf wrote:
OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?


Because "in two years" is not, like, now?


But then you're spending extra money for a brand-new plane for no reason.


Things like new cabin interiors and liveries don't materialize instantaneously and take time to work out. It's typical in these situations that both brands continue to receive aircraft in their current livery/cabin/configuration until those details can be fully developed.
Tiny, unreadable text leaves ample room for interpretation.
 
Armodeen
Posts: 763
Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:17 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:30 pm

OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?


This exact question has been answered 2 or 3 times already up thread.
 
TransGlobalGold
Posts: 217
Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:40 pm

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:30 pm

CanadaFair wrote:
Polot wrote:
CanadaFair wrote:
Why not the revised look titles? website has it since a couple of years but no new aircraft getting it?

What's the point? The VX livery will be gone in a few years.

Its a long time and this is a brand new aircraft, the website is showing new title and fonts since two years, its the US not some backwardf society to whom such things are irrelevant and its Virgin brand not some third rate carrier.


Classy comment.
 
Superunkown
Posts: 3
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:34 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:03 am

Lovely aircraft, would look really nice in AS colours.
 
ahj2000
Posts: 573
Joined: Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:34 pm

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:12 am

Are those American flags on the wingtips? Those look great :D *coughamericancough*
-Andrés Juánez
 
User avatar
aemoreira1981
Posts: 288
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:17 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:38 am

The second route for the VX A321neo has been announced...SFO to JFK (afternoon arrival and evening departure on VX22/29), starting in mid-June

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... ns-in-s17/
 
User avatar
EA CO AS
Posts: 13913
Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2001 8:54 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:14 am

AS has committed to taking 4 more A321NEOs, and then later this year, they will make a decision about the fleet going forward. This A321 comes with the groan-worthy name of "NEO Kid on the Block" which prompted Ben Minicucci to remark that he's looking forward to seeing if this airplane has all the "right stuff." (This is where I planted my forehead against my phone when reading his e-mail, by the way).
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan

Comments made here are my own and are not intended to represent the official position of Alaska Air Group
 
b747400erf
Posts: 2710
Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:33 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:49 am

OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?

You could read the thread before posting to find out.
 
airzona11
Posts: 367
Joined: Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:44 am

Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:06 am

ahj2000 wrote:
Are those American flags on the wingtips? Those look great :D *coughamericancough*


That would be great!

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos