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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:27 am

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Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?

They can't be painted in AS colors until the merger is complete early next year .


Says who? They could paint them in AS colors and put "Operated by Virgin America" or even "Operated by VQIA199L" on the side.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:35 am

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What's happening with N923VA ( The 3rd A-321) ? It was reported as painted and still "on order" as of July 28


N923VA emerged from final assembly in August and is not yet ready for delivery.

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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:03 am

VX expands A321neo service in NW17/18

New routes include LAX-HNL, LAX-OGG, SFO-KOA, SFO-LAX, SFO-LAS, SFO-SEA, SFO-SAN

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... es-in-w17/
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:09 pm

Thanks for the info. The two delivered aircraft (N921/N922 VA) have mostly been covering SFO-DCA-SFO and SFO-HNL-SFO, with a few SFO-JFK-SFO trips from the info posted on Flight Radar 24.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:52 pm

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petera380 wrote:
It will be in Alaska Airlines colors soon! :D


Unfortunately


+1 what was the point in buying it to just get rid of it. :roll:


Hey look!! Someone (Airbus) just brought up a MoM :D
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:14 pm

That A321 NEO is the most fuel efficient aircraft in the World - no engines. :-)
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:57 pm

Is Alaska really going to get rid of all their Airbus planes in the mid-2020's? I don't think they will. There is a use for both 737's and A321neo's.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:41 pm

qf789 wrote:
VX expands A321neo service in NW17/18
New routes include LAX-HNL, LAX-OGG, SFO-KOA, SFO-LAX, SFO-LAS, SFO-SEA, SFO-SAN

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... es-in-w17/

Notice that the SFO-SAN and SFO-LAS service is only once a week (Sundays) and lasts only a month at each city; both these routes begin in early 2018.

Sure sounds like aircraft familiarization routes for AAG -- to get SAN and LAS familiar with the Neo, and visa versa. I personally am looking forward to seeing the Neo flying from SAN to the east coast -- BOS, JFK, WAS? -- sometime in 2018! (And I don't care if it shows up in an AS livery, or still wearing the familiar red-and-white one, for as long as that lasts.

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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:26 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
robt760 wrote:
What's happening with N923VA ( The 3rd A-321) ? It was reported as painted and still "on order" as of July 28


N923VA emerged from final assembly in August and is not yet ready for delivery.

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A321neo Virgin America N923VA by Tobias Gudat, on Flickr


Does it usually take that long between assembly and delivery for a narrowbody?
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:20 pm

Crzn33k wrote:
OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?

They can't be painted in AS colors until the merger is complete early next year .



The merger is complete; you're referring to a single operating certificate, which happens in January. And even then, the aircraft could be delivered in AS livery as long as while the VX certificate is active, there's a small decal on the aircraft stating it's operated by Virgin America.
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:27 pm

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Crzn33k wrote:
OA940 wrote:
Well done!! My problem with this is that there wasn't much announced in the way of who will launch it. A lot of confusion overall. Also, since the Virgin America brand will be gone in 2 years, why not deliver it with the new Alaska interiors and livery?

They can't be painted in AS colors until the merger is complete early next year .



The merger is complete; you're referring to a single operating certificate, which happens in January. And even then, the aircraft could be delivered in AS livery as long as while the VX certificate is active, there's a small decal on the aircraft stating it's operated by Virgin America.


Just like all the QX planes with Chester on the tail - "Proudly operated by Horizon Air"
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:36 pm

The simple reason why this wasn't delivered in AS colors since the merger is complete minus the SOC is that AS might have something special planned for when the first Airbus is brought over. Whether that is a specialty livery or something else planned remains to be seen but I highly doubt the Alaska livery will make its debut on an Airbus aircraft straight from the factory. How long after the new livery was released were Boeing still delivering AA 738s in the polished metal?
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:43 am

fraspotter wrote:
The simple reason why this wasn't delivered in AS colors since the merger is complete minus the SOC is that AS might have something special planned for when the first Airbus is brought over. Whether that is a specialty livery or something else planned remains to be seen but I highly doubt the Alaska livery will make its debut on an Airbus aircraft straight from the factory. How long after the new livery was released were Boeing still delivering AA 738s in the polished metal?


The two aircraft prior to this one on order have already been delivered, and are in full operation. I'm not sure what the delay for this one is. On another thread, it was announced they intend to have a special livery with SF Giants theme for the A321.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1373705

N923VA appears to already have the standard VX scheme, so there's a high likelihood of one of the next in the order getting the livery mentioned in that article.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:09 am

luv2cattlecall wrote:
Does it usually take that long between assembly and delivery for a narrowbody?


I agree it's quite long. Perhaps N923VA is getting its VX livery stripped and will be repainted in AS livery?
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:45 pm

Apparently N923VA is in storage in XFW:

https://flic.kr/p/YUgr1H
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:13 pm

Not only P&W engines are delayed, CFM runs also several weeks behind plan, quite a few, my guess is 15+, frames supposed to get LEAP engines are stored.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:34 pm

Wild idea but wouldn't it make sense for AS to keep the Virgin brand as they want to market themselves as a Boeing only airline?
I mean they will have to fork out a bit of money in royalties to Richard Brandson but still I believe they could charge a premium as the brand does have its value as a global brand, and they could take in airbus planes while keep buying 737s for AS.
It'd also give them some leverage in future negotiations if they bought from both A & B.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:46 am

N923VA has been pulled out of storage and got its engines fitted. Shouldn't take too long before its gets delivered.

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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:59 am

Not sure how legitimate this info is, but I discovered this...N924VA will be the special livery plane apparently
https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/2017/0 ... a.html?m=1
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:15 am

VCEflyboy wrote:
Wild idea but wouldn't it make sense for AS to keep the Virgin brand as they want to market themselves as a Boeing only airline?
I mean they will have to fork out a bit of money in royalties to Richard Brandson but still I believe they could charge a premium as the brand does have its value as a global brand, and they could take in airbus planes while keep buying 737s for AS.
It'd also give them some leverage in future negotiations if they bought from both A & B.


"Boeing only airline" worth nothing to general public.
But having a larger, stronger, single brand across USA market do add value to AS's brand image and value.
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:12 pm

robt760 wrote:
Not sure how legitimate this info is, but I discovered this...N924VA will be the special livery plane apparently
https://xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/2017/0 ... a.html?m=1


That explains why N924VA is painted fully white.

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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:24 pm

The SF giants themed plane is horrendous. The best touch to this could be Chester the Eskimo wearing a giants cap on the tail. A plain white tail reminds me of those unbranded euro charter airlines.
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:16 am

N923VA is now in service with standard VX livery

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N923VA
 
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Re: Virgin America receives first A321neo

Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:21 am

I took a trip to HNL last week, and the aircraft was N922VA HNL - LAX. Sad to see that somebody likely forced the tray tables into the bulkhead in 3 A and B. I was moved from my seat to another row due to inop tray tables. The plane has only been in service for 5 months, and the wear and tear made it look 2-3 yrs old.

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