Not surprisingly, given the uptick in 787 flying from IAD this summer, UA will close IAH and open IAD. Aircraft utilization is the reason given, though I'm guessing lower costs on IAD flights also has something to do with it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2017/04/07/united-moving-787-flying-houston-washington-dulles/100163660/
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Re: UA Closes IAH 787 Base, Opens IAD
What pilot base will handle the DEN-NRT route?
Re: UA Closes IAH 787 Base, Opens IAD
I think a better reason is because of the hit IAH has taken with oil and cutbacks in flights, it makes more economic sense to have the fleet type on the coasts than in IAH. Though I guess from a utilization stand point, to fly IAD-Europe you will only need 1 plane per segment because the stage length is 6-8 hours in each direction unlike West Coast to Asia where at least 2 frames are required.
United shifts 787's from IAH to IAD
A big surprise to me........ but makes sense as it may lead to higher profitability at the IAD Hub. Great news for IAD!
New 787 service to Beijing, São Paulo and London Heathrow.
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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... on-436040/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/f ... 100163660/
New 787 service to Beijing, São Paulo and London Heathrow.
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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... on-436040/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/f ... 100163660/
UA to moves 787s out of Houston
This morning the HBJ is reporting that United is planning to move it's 787s out of IAH. They mention FRA and GIG in particular. I don't know what the plan is for LHR or the tag on DEN and LAX/SFO flights. They mention they are closing the pilot base here.
DO you think this is to be a new A350 base? How will they handle the moves, beyond just FRA and GIG. The Dreamliner has become quite a fixture here. Article below:
http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news ... j=77899821
Thanks for the insights!
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DO you think this is to be a new A350 base? How will they handle the moves, beyond just FRA and GIG. The Dreamliner has become quite a fixture here. Article below:
http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news ... j=77899821
Thanks for the insights!
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Re: UA to moves 787s out of Houston
So what is the future for the 787. esp. the 788 fleet going forward? Does this mean they will be flying IAD-Europe routes this winter instead of 763's? Places like GVA, ZRH, CDG? Or will they be doing IAD-Asia?
I was hoping some frames would be placed back on IAH-Deep South America this Northern Winter, but that's not going to happen now.
I was hoping some frames would be placed back on IAH-Deep South America this Northern Winter, but that's not going to happen now.
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Re: UA Closes IAH 787 Base, Opens IAD
These are all going to be 787-8s right?
Re: UA Closes IAH 787 Base, Opens IAD
UA upgraded the IAD-CDG from a 788 to a 789 a few days ago.
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Re: UA Closes IAH 787 Base, Opens IAD
TWA772LR wrote:What pilot base will handle the DEN-NRT route?
They could upgauge it to a 789 and fly LAX-NRT-DEN-NRT-LAX, otherwise I'd say one of the IAD flights to DEN switches from a 739 to the 788
Re: UA Closes IAH 787 Base, Opens IAD
Bricktop wrote:UA upgraded the IAD-CDG from a 788 to a 789 a few days ago.
That route is paired in a W routing with SFO-CDG so one or both routes must have the demand.
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Re: UA Closes IAH 787 Base, Opens IAD
caverunner17 wrote:TWA772LR wrote:What pilot base will handle the DEN-NRT route?
They could upgauge it to a 789 and fly LAX-NRT-DEN-NRT-LAX, otherwise I'd say one of the IAD flights to DEN switches from a 739 to the 788
According to the other thread, the 788 will come from SFO. A second 787 flight appears in the SFO-DEN-SFO schedules beginning at the same time. This means that, on some days, along with a 772 rotation, three of the 12 frequencies on DEN-SFO will be widebodies!
Re: UA Closes IAH 787 Base, Opens IAD
TWA772LR wrote:What pilot base will handle the DEN-NRT route?
Likely LAX as part of W routing LAX-NRT-DEN-NRT-LAX.
Re: UA Closes IAH 787 Base, Opens IAD
caverunner17 wrote:TWA772LR wrote:What pilot base will handle the DEN-NRT route?
They could upgauge it to a 789 and fly LAX-NRT-DEN-NRT-LAX, otherwise I'd say one of the IAD flights to DEN switches from a 739 to the 788
787 pilots are qualified on both the -8 and -9 and can fly both. The LAX pilot base will likely do the DEN-NRT as part of a LAX-NRT-DEN-NRT-LAX W routing.
Re: UA Closes IAH 787 Base, Opens IAD
Great news for IAD. Would love to see ORD get some 787 flights.
Does anyone have a list of all the UA 787 routes?
Does anyone have a list of all the UA 787 routes?
Re: UA Closes IAH 787 Base, Opens IAD
United787 wrote:Great news for IAD. Would love to see ORD get some 787 flights.
Does anyone have a list of all the UA 787 routes?
In the summer schedule (looking at late June):
788: SFO-IAH x2, SFO-MUC, SFO-TLV, SFO-KIX, SFO-PVG, SFO-XIY (3x weekly), SFO-CTU (4x weekly), DEN-SFO, DEN-NRT, IAH-SFO, IAH-DEN, IAH-GIG
789: SFO-DEN, SFO-LHR, SFO-CDG, SFO-HND, SFO-HGH (3x weekly), SFO-SIN, SFO-SYD, LAX-LHR, LAX-NRT, LAX-PVG, LAX-SYD, LAX-MEL, DEN-SFO, IAD-LHR, IAD-CDG
Then IAD-GRU and IAD-PEK to be added in the fall (not sure if those will be 788s or 789s). I believe all 12 788s are needed to operate the summer schedule, and 17/20 789s with a few spares.
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Re: UA Closes IAH 787 Base, Opens IAD
727200 wrote:I think a better reason is because of the hit IAH has taken with oil and cutbacks in flights, it makes more economic sense to have the fleet type on the coasts than in IAH. Though I guess from a utilization stand point, to fly IAD-Europe you will only need 1 plane per segment because the stage length is 6-8 hours in each direction unlike West Coast to Asia where at least 2 frames are required.
It would make sense if that were the case. IAH isn't losing any destinations and with more 777's coming here, we aren't losing seat count. Its a product downgrade but it isn't a capacity downgrade.
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