airbazar wrote:

C010T3 wrote:

gatibosgru wrote:

As a Brazilian, I completely and wholeheartedly disagree. But now we're going off topic.

Please enlighten us how the livery reminds you of Portuguese colonization and how that is offending to you.

Maybe "offensive" is too strong of a word, but for those of us who grew up in the colonies (and I am one of them), that livery represented the "colonizing power", and to this day it's still associated with the colonial era and the dictatorship of Antonio Salazar. However I do agree that the relationship between Portugal and Brazil is much different than between Portugal and its African colonies, much of it because as stated above, Brazil gained its independence a lot earlier and as a colony was never exposed to the dictatorship of Salazar.

It sounds as if you have some trauma associated with that livery.

It's a beauty

TAP343 wrote:

airbazar wrote:

C010T3 wrote:

Please enlighten us how the livery reminds you of Portuguese colonization and how that is offending to you.

Maybe "offensive" is too strong of a word, but for those of us who grew up in the colonies (and I am one of them), that livery represented the "colonizing power", and to this day it's still associated with the colonial era and the dictatorship of Antonio Salazar. However I do agree that the relationship between Portugal and Brazil is much different than between Portugal and its African colonies, much of it because as stated above, Brazil gained its independence a lot earlier and as a colony was never exposed to the dictatorship of Salazar.

It sounds as if you have some trauma associated with that livery.

The livery now applied to the A330 was launched shortly after the airline was privatized for the first time. The "colonizing power" would be more evident with its first and second liveries, when TAP was not even a company but a state service:

Another nice pic here
http://www.jornaldenegocios.pt/empresas ... -anos-1970

Still awaiting the launch event and entry in service due to a longer than expected certification process.
EDIT: Here's a close up on the nose. Appropriately, the bird will be called Portugal.

First flight for the retro livery now in the air!
TP103 LIS-CNF

Here are two videos of the retrojet bird.

Making of the paint job
https://www.facebook.com/TAPPortugal/videos/10155418404421449/

Arrival back in LIS after the first commercial flight for TAP
https://youtu.be/c-PIEe1IgSA

Tomorrow morning this bird will do a promotional flight LIS-OPO-LIS (STD 09:00, STA 12:00), including a low pass on both airports.

She looks beautiful! I love retro-birds. This is a great one.

LXwing wrote:

First flight for the retro livery now in the air!
TP103 LIS-CNF

I was proud to be on that first revenue flight of the retrojet

Why CNF for 1st rev flight????

More on CS-TOV here https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/tap-unveils-retro-a330/

Personal opinion: It's nice to see this paint scheme return to the skies.

dash500 wrote:

LXwing wrote:

First flight for the retro livery now in the air!
TP103 LIS-CNF

I was proud to be on that first revenue flight of the retrojet

I missed for just one day

Wish they'd fly this beauty to BOS! Looks great.

Probably the best looking 330 at the moment

LH748 wrote:

Probably the best looking 330 at the moment

Agreed.

I just found a flight-report of that first flight

Nice to read. Thanks for sharing.

And now a second A330 with new livery emerged from paint:


https://twitter.com/aero_in/status/888083928480927744/

KarelXWB wrote:

And now a second A330 with new livery emerged from paint:


https://twitter.com/aero_in/status/888083928480927744/

Nahh... not sure...
White tail?
Highlight sun and surf as attractions in Portugal? Are they in the Caribbean now?
Still with 1st retro one...

The tail will be painted in Lisbon.

"Highlight sun and surf as attractions in Portugal? Are they in the Caribbean now?"

Really? Really that you said that?????

Have a talk with Garrett McNamara and he will say something about surf in Portugal.

About Sun, on that you beat me.

ojjunior I strongly recommend you to visit Portugal! there is plenty of sun and great waves to surf in the west coast!

ojjunior wrote:

KarelXWB wrote:

And now a second A330 with new livery emerged from paint:

Nahh... not sure...
White tail?
Highlight sun and surf as attractions in Portugal? Are they in the Caribbean now?
Still with 1st retro one...

The white tail will be painted in LIS with the usual TAP scheme, plus a bonus detail. You haven't seen the other side of the livery yet, I presume... The choice of items represented in this livery is of course debatable. But in most of the northern hemisphere Portugal is known for its sunny climate and wavy sea among other things, so I don't see what is the problem with that.

ojjunior wrote:

KarelXWB wrote:

And now a second A330 with new livery emerged from paint:


https://twitter.com/aero_in/status/888083928480927744/

Nahh... not sure...
White tail?
Highlight sun and surf as attractions in Portugal? Are they in the Caribbean now?

Actually there's not a lot of surf in the Caribbean, certainly not world class.
Meanwhile, Portugal is THE premier European destination for surf and sun, hosting competitions from the world surf league.
From the end of May until early November, the southern half of Portugal hardly gets a drop of rain. Portugal's climate is incredibly similar to that of California. There's a reason why they have the same problem with wild fires and drought.

ojjunior wrote:

Highlight sun and surf as attractions in Portugal? Are they in the Caribbean now?

I mean compared to the rest of Europe Portugal is known for its sun. Granted that is by European standards, which is much colder and dreary than many, many, other parts of the world.

Polot wrote:

I mean compared to the rest of Europe Portugal is known for its sun. Granted that is by European standards, which is much colder and dreary than many, many, other parts of the world.

airbazar wrote:

Actually there's not a lot of surf in the Caribbean, certainly not world class.
Meanwhile, Portugal is THE premier European destination for surf and sun, hosting competitions from the world surf league.
From the end of May until early November, the southern half of Portugal hardly gets a drop of rain. Portugal's climate is incredibly similar to that of California. There's a reason why they have the same problem with wild fires and drought.

LXwing wrote:

The white tail will be painted in LIS with the usual TAP scheme, plus a bonus detail. You haven't seen the other side of the livery yet, I presume... The choice of items represented in this livery is of course debatable. But in most of the northern hemisphere Portugal is known for its sunny climate and wavy sea among other things, so I don't see what is the problem with that.

Okay guys, please allow me to rephrase my comment:
I meant: why highlight sun and surf as the major Portugal attractions instead of the iconic and endless other atractions they have to offer which can clearly be seen along the fuselage?
I'm not questioning Portugal warm and friendly weather, I know that, have double citizenship and have been there several times, the last one last april and had pleasant and lovely times at Nazaré and Estoril beaches like no other in Europe, including Spain.
Just said that the sun and surf shouldn't be the 1st thing people see in a Portuguese airliner by being in the front of the fuselage. Just my 2 cents.
But you all got your point, thanks for that.

But I'm still with the first retrojet one.

Please share other side fuselage pics with us and full painted bird when you have it.
Have all you guys a great weekend!

ojjunior wrote:

I meant: why highlight sun and surf as the major Portugal attractions instead of the iconic and endless other atractions they have to offer which can clearly be seen along the fuselage?

To be honest from an international point of view (remember this is a A330, not a A320) Portugal's sun and surf, along with maybe rolling vineyards (also on the fuselage), is probably the country's most "iconic" and well known attractions.

The paint is not the same on both sides of the fuselage

CS-TOW arrived today in Lisbon and is already inside TAP M&E Hangar (i believe the interior still needs to be installed). Expect it to enter service in the following days/weeks.

AECM wrote:

CS-TOW arrived today in Lisbon and is already inside TAP M&E Hangar (i believe the interior still needs to be installed). Expect it to enter service in the following days/weeks.

Well... not so bad as I thought... acceptable.

The fourth (and last) A330-300 from Singapore Airlines will have the "Air Portugal" titles on the tail since TAP will reassume its "TAP Air Portugal" trade name. This change will only take plane in Septemper, but in New York, the slightly modified logo, can arealdy be seen on the cabs:

airbazar wrote:

It's almost shocking that none of the news outlets in Portugal have reported this as of this morning. just lots of bickering about the new administration and the close encounter with a drone.
As beautiful as this livery is I have to question the decision to fly this plane to Brazil and Africa. This livery represented colonial Portugal and if I were Brazilian or Mozambican, or Angolan I'd be a bit offended seeing it in my country. But I guess I'm being a bit over sensitive.

Awww...are you triggered? Does the livery trigger you?

KarelXWB wrote:

And now a second A330 with new livery emerged from paint:


https://twitter.com/aero_in/status/888083928480927744/

Looks like the japanese folks liked the idea a lot...