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Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:17 pm

Hey Guys,
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As we have seen over the last two years, Jamaica have experienced steady growth in air arrivals out of Europe.. For this thread, we will highlight some the most recent announcements.

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Eurowings — a subsidiary of Lufthansa — will begin operating a twice-weekly scheduled service between Germany and Montego Bay, Jamaica.

 “The scheduled flights will operate every Monday and Friday from Cologne/Bonn, and will use their Airbus 330 aircraft which has 310 seats. Flights will run July 3 through to October 27, 2017, and will bring over 10,000 seats from Germany for the summer.
Eurowings has advised that they will extend the service into the winter.


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Weekly charter flights between Spain, Portugal and Jamaica will begin in June of this year.
Charters will be sold and operated by the Barcelo Group under their tour operator brands.
“The Portugal flights will be operated by Orbest from June 9 to September 29 and goes out of their capital city Lisbon, with an Airbus 330 aircraft that seats 388 passengers. The flight will make a stop in the Dominican Republic before continuing on to Montego Bay and vice versa. Meanwhile, the Spain flights will be operated by Evelop non-stop out of their capital city, Madrid into Montego Bay from June 4 to October 28 with an Airbus 330.

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Condor Airlines in their latest filing to JCAA, will be add a Tues FRA-MBJ-VRA-FRA flight operated from the period May 2, 2017-Oct 25, 2017.


Previously Announced:

Thomson and Virgin Atlantic will increase LGW-MBJ to 4 weekly.

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More news in old thread.
viewtopic.php?p=19401793#p19401793
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:49 pm

hummingbird wrote:
Hey Guys,
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As we have seen over the last two years, Jamaica have experienced steady growth in air arrivals out of Europe.. For this thread, we will highlight some the most recent announcements.

Image

Eurowings — a subsidiary of Lufthansa — will begin operating a twice-weekly scheduled service between Germany and Montego Bay, Jamaica.

 “The scheduled flights will operate every Monday and Friday from Cologne/Bonn, and will use their Airbus 330 aircraft which has 310 seats. Flights will run July 3 through to October 27, 2017, and will bring over 10,000 seats from Germany for the summer.
Eurowings has advised that they will extend the service into the winter.


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Weekly charter flights between Spain, Portugal and Jamaica will begin in June of this year.
Charters will be sold and operated by the Barcelo Group under their tour operator brands.
“The Portugal flights will be operated by Orbest from June 9 to September 29 and goes out of their capital city Lisbon, with an Airbus 330 aircraft that seats 388 passengers. The flight will make a stop in the Dominican Republic before continuing on to Montego Bay and vice versa. Meanwhile, the Spain flights will be operated by Evelop non-stop out of their capital city, Madrid into Montego Bay from June 4 to October 28 with an Airbus 330.

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Condor Airlines in their latest filing to JCAA, will be add a Tues FRA-MBJ-VRA-FRA flight operated from the period May 2, 2017-Oct 25, 2017.


Previously Announced:

Thomson and Virgin Atlantic will increase LGW-MBJ to 4 weekly.

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More news in old thread.
viewtopic.php?p=19401793#p19401793


The news is awesome as its how much that market has recovered since the recession in Spain and Portugal

Bartlett indicated that the flights out of Portugal and Spain are critical to the continued diversification of Jamaica’s tourism sector and is in line with deliberate and concerted efforts to gain a stronger foothold into the European markets.

http://www.janewshub.com/spain-and-port ... rt-summer/
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:28 am

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Bartlett indicated that the flights out of Portugal and Spain are critical to the continued diversification of Jamaica’s tourism sector and is in line with deliberate and concerted efforts to gain a stronger foothold into the European markets.


Now it's time to see Norwegian from Scandinavia and Edelweiss from Zurich. I also anticipate AB to covert to schedule services in W17.



Latest OAG filings.

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B6 FLL-KIN JUN 3>2.0 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2 SEP 3>2.
Interesting to see them follow a similar pattern as AA. Trump Travel Effect???

NK FLL-KIN AUG 0.3>0.5 SEP 0.1>0.3 OCT 0>0.3

Looks like they are going year-round.
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:31 pm

hummingbird wrote:
jm079 wrote:
Bartlett indicated that the flights out of Portugal and Spain are critical to the continued diversification of Jamaica’s tourism sector and is in line with deliberate and concerted efforts to gain a stronger foothold into the European markets.


Now it's time to see Norwegian from Scandinavia and Edelweiss from Zurich. I also anticipate AB to covert to schedule services in W17.


I see Thomas Cook Scandinavia keeping the Norway route, I don't have the confidence in another carrier doing it.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:45 pm

According to this link, Jamaica and Cuba has signed a Mult-Destination Marketing Deal that will include air services between both countries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjxER5c ... ture=share

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Jamaica attracted approximately 20,000 German tourists last year, and Tourism Minister Edmund Bartlett has now mandated the Jamaica Tourist Board (JTB) and other industrial officials to raise the figure to 50,000 by 2020.
Bartlett noted his decision while meeting with executives of the world’s largest tour company, TUI Group, in Berlin, Germany, over the weekend.
Bartlett said that his ministry and the JTB will be working closely with TUI to achieve the target.
TUI Group brought more than 150,000 tourists to Jamaica’s shores last year. It is the largest leisure, travel and tourism company in the world, and owns travel agencies, hotels, airlines, cruise ships, and retail stores.


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Bar ... 2020_92329

http://www.eturbonews.com/77858/tourism ... ist-arriva

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Axe to grind??

Monitoring the websites of airlines servicing Guyana from North America, it looks like the average airfare between JFK and Georgetown, currently, and throughout much of the year, on CAL, Fly Jamaica, and Eastern Airlines, is about US$800 roundtrip. COPA Airline via Panama City fluctuates between US$1,000 to 1,200. CAL appears to be cashing in on its JFK/Georgetown non-stop flight, with an average of US$900 roundtrip.

Fly Jamaica, Eastern and Dynamic Airlines are all charter companies that are plying the lucrative JFK/Georgetown route. Their service has been marred by delays and cancellations. Eastern and Fly Jamaica have had fewer delays and cancellations in the past few months, and Dynamic Airlines is showing some improvements.


http://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/headlin ... 33779.html

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Two of the flights — BW011 from Montego Bay (Jamaica) to New York and BW528 from Trinidad to New York were cancelled yesterday while four flights are cancelled for today. They are BW521 from New York to Trinidad; BW524 from Trinidad to New York; BW525 from New York to Trinidad and BW010 from New York to Montego Bay, Jamaica
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http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20170313 ... rk-flights

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Rmjhjr wrote:
I see Thomas Cook Scandinavia keeping the Norway route, I don't have the confidence in another carrier doing it.


Thomas Cook serves ARN.

DY has a strong hub in OSL. OSL was previously served by TUI Group.


MBJ Shots.

Trans-Atlantic on parade.

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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:28 pm

hummingbird wrote:
Rmjhjr wrote:
I see Thomas Cook Scandinavia keeping the Norway route, I don't have the confidence in another carrier doing it.


Thomas Cook serves ARN.

DY has a strong hub in OSL. OSL was previously served by TUI Group.


My bad, I got the cities mixed up. But yeah, TUI has been serving that route doubled (Thomson directly while TUI via Dom Rep). That's another reason I don't see DY coming; otherwise why wouldn't they have served it themselves? Yeah, I know how big TUI is and all; still, I am certain DY could have tried; perhaps continuing on from PR?
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:37 pm

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My bad, I got the cities mixed up. But yeah, TUI has been serving that route doubled (Thomson directly while TUI via Dom Rep). That's another reason I don't see DY coming; otherwise why wouldn't they have served it themselves? Yeah, I know how big TUI is and all; still, I am certain DY could have tried; perhaps continuing on from PR?


Strong growth from the Scandinavian markets, especially Sweden. DY has a strong hub at OSL, so I can see a nonstop 1-2 weekly winter service.

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More flights.
ATLANTA, March 15, 2017 /PRNewswire/ - Vacation Express is ready to begin their seasonal, non-stop flights from Cleveland Hopkins International Airport to Jamaica and Punta Cana. Weekly service to Jamaica runs from Saturday, May 27 to July 1, 2017, and flights to Punta Cana will depart every Monday starting May 15 through July 31, 2017.


http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases ... 41594.html

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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:32 pm

hummingbird wrote:
According to this link, Jamaica and Cuba has signed a Mult-Destination Marketing Deal that will include air services between both countries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjxER5c ... ture=share

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Jamaica attracted approximately 20,000 German tourists last year, and Tourism Minister Edmund Bartlett has now mandated the Jamaica Tourist Board (JTB) and other industrial officials to raise the figure to 50,000 by 2020.
Bartlett noted his decision while meeting with executives of the world’s largest tour company, TUI Group, in Berlin, Germany, over the weekend.
Bartlett said that his ministry and the JTB will be working closely with TUI to achieve the target.
TUI Group brought more than 150,000 tourists to Jamaica’s shores last year. It is the largest leisure, travel and tourism company in the world, and owns travel agencies, hotels, airlines, cruise ships, and retail stores.


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Bar ... 2020_92329

http://www.eturbonews.com/77858/tourism ... ist-arriva

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Axe to grind??

Monitoring the websites of airlines servicing Guyana from North America, it looks like the average airfare between JFK and Georgetown, currently, and throughout much of the year, on CAL, Fly Jamaica, and Eastern Airlines, is about US$800 roundtrip. COPA Airline via Panama City fluctuates between US$1,000 to 1,200. CAL appears to be cashing in on its JFK/Georgetown non-stop flight, with an average of US$900 roundtrip.

Fly Jamaica, Eastern and Dynamic Airlines are all charter companies that are plying the lucrative JFK/Georgetown route. Their service has been marred by delays and cancellations. Eastern and Fly Jamaica have had fewer delays and cancellations in the past few months, and Dynamic Airlines is showing some improvements.


http://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/headlin ... 33779.html

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Two of the flights — BW011 from Montego Bay (Jamaica) to New York and BW528 from Trinidad to New York were cancelled yesterday while four flights are cancelled for today. They are BW521 from New York to Trinidad; BW524 from Trinidad to New York; BW525 from New York to Trinidad and BW010 from New York to Montego Bay, Jamaica
.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20170313 ... rk-flights

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Rmjhjr wrote:
I see Thomas Cook Scandinavia keeping the Norway route, I don't have the confidence in another carrier doing it.


Thomas Cook serves ARN.

DY has a strong hub in OSL. OSL was previously served by TUI Group.


MBJ Shots.

Trans-Atlantic on parade.

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Caribbean Airlines has been saddled with a US$270,000 monthly bill for breaking its lease on two 767 jets that are now being used by Air Canada.

A report in the Trinidad Guardian newspaper quoted CAL officials as saying that the airline is still incurring payments on the 767s and this will continue until August this year.

Captain Jagmohan Singh, CAL’s Chief Executive Officer, has confirmed that US$135,000 is due for each plane, and although they were returned, the airline had to renegotiate with the lessors.

http://rjrnewsonline.com/local/cal-stru ... card-fraud
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:39 pm

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Caribbean Airlines has been saddled with a US$270,000 monthly bill for breaking its lease on two 767 jets that are now being used by Air Canada.

A report in the Trinidad Guardian newspaper quoted CAL officials as saying that the airline is still incurring payments on the 767s and this will continue until August this year.

Captain Jagmohan Singh, CAL’s Chief Executive Officer, has confirmed that US$135,000 is due for each plane, and although they were returned, the airline had to renegotiate with the lessors.

http://rjrnewsonline.com/local/cal-stru ... card-fraud


Bit off more than they could chew? It's always a great thing to be ambitious; it's better to be smart about it.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:20 pm

Check Out these shots.

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OAG Filings.

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AA DFW-MBJ AUG 0.9>1.1 SEP 0.3>0.7 NOV 0.7>0.9

BW JFK-GEO APR 1.0>1.1
BW JFK-KIN JUL 1.5>1.3 AUG 1.4>1.3

UA EWR-MBJ AUG 1.6>2

WN BWI-MBJ AUG 1.3>1.6
WN HOU-MBJ AUG 1.0>0.7 SEP 1.0>0.6 OCT 1.0>0.6
WN MCO-MBJ AUG 1.0>0.8 SEP 1.0>0.7 OCT 1.0>0.7
WN MDW-MBJ AUG 0.7>0.9

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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:58 am

jm079 wrote:
Caribbean Airlines has been saddled with a US$270,000 monthly bill for breaking its lease on two 767 jets that are now being used by Air Canada.

A report in the Trinidad Guardian newspaper quoted CAL officials as saying that the airline is still incurring payments on the 767s and this will continue until August this year.

Captain Jagmohan Singh, CAL’s Chief Executive Officer, has confirmed that US$135,000 is due for each plane, and although they were returned, the airline had to renegotiate with the lessors.

http://rjrnewsonline.com/local/cal-stru ... card-fraud


Ouch! Was expecting that to happen.

Rmjhjr wrote:
Bit off more than they could chew?


So it would seem.

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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:19 pm

DL's A321 is sched to appear in MBJ from ATL. A first time visit.
N303DN
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL317

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OJ operated a KIN-CCS flight with their B752 on Friday night.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n524at/

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American Airlines celebrates this year its 40-year anniversary in Jamaica. The airline began flying to Jamaica on March 2, 1977, with one daily flight from New York-JFK to Montego Bay (MBJ) and Kingston (KIN) on a McDonnell-Douglas DC-10 aircraft.
At the time, the airline employed 14 people in Jamaica. Today, American Airlines employs 94 people in the country and operates almost 90 nonstop weekly flights from KIN and MBJ to the United States.

The airline currently operates 21 weekly flights from KIN to Miami as well as 67 weekly flights from MBJ to seven destinations in the United States - Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Dallas/Fort Worth, Los Angeles, Miami and Philadelphia. 

http://hospitalityjamaica.com/achieve1.html

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"The return of non-stop service on Vacation Express from Dallas Fort Worth to Montego Bay this summer will assist the destination in attracting increased visitors from the west/southwest," said Paul Pennicook, Jamaica's Director of Tourism. "Visitors wishing to experience our rich heritage and diverse culture and cuisine are encouraged to take advantage of the special offers now available."
Jamaica has become an even more enticing destination for travelers with the introduction of three brand-new, all-inclusive resorts on the island. Royalton Blue Waters is located in Montego Bay and Royalton Negril and Hideaway at Royalton Negril are on the popular beaches of Negril. All three resorts offer Royalton's All-In Luxury® concept which features luxurious benefits to all guests, including the exquisitely comfortable DreamBedTM, free high-speed Wi-Fi resort-wide, 24-hour room service, the Sports Event GuaranteeTM and more.
Flights to Jamaica will be operated by Swift Air, LLC. on a Boeing 737 aircraft. The value-packed flights will enable travelers to sit back and relax while enjoying a complimentary non-alcoholic beverage and snack. Each traveler will be permitted one free carry-on bag and the option to purchase add-ons like Preferred Seating starting at $20 or Elite Plus starting at $39 each way and can bundle options which include checked luggage for the best value. Flights to Punta Cana will also be operated by Swift Air, LLC.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/vacation-express-brings-dallas-fort-111700607.html

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The Virgin Atlantic Boeing 747 flight VS65 was heading to Jamaica's Montego Bay when it was struck just moments after take-off.
The pilots were reportedly then forced to swerve the jet around and land back at Gatwick.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest- ... 747-flight
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TORONTO, March 22, 2017 /CNW/ - Sunwing will be offering a summer service to three popular Caribbean destinations from Vancouver via Toronto for a third consecutive year. From May 17 to September 03, 2017 inclusive, West coast travellers can enjoy convenient access to Punta Cana, Dominican Republic; Montego Bay, Jamaica and the island of St. Maarten.  From June 1st until September 1st, 2017, flight connections to Punta Cana are available on Thursdays and Sundays, and Montego Bay is accessed via weekly service departing each Saturday from June 3rd until September 3rd, 2017. Plus, vacationers headed to St. Maarten can take advantage of regular Wednesday service between May 17th and August 31st, 2017.

http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/su ... 33104.html
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:07 pm

hummingbird wrote:
DL's A321 is sched to appear in MBJ from ATL. A first time visit.
N303DN
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL317


I missed it.

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hummingburd wrote:
American Airlines celebrates this year its 40-year anniversary in Jamaica. The airline began flying to Jamaica on March 2, 1977, with one daily flight from New York-JFK to Montego Bay (MBJ) and Kingston (KIN) on a McDonnell-Douglas DC-10 aircraft.
At the time, the airline employed 14 people in Jamaica. Today, American Airlines employs 94 people in the country and operates almost 90 nonstop weekly flights from KIN and MBJ to the United States.

The airline currently operates 21 weekly flights from KIN to Miami as well as 67 weekly flights from MBJ to seven destinations in the United States - Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Dallas/Fort Worth, Los Angeles, Miami and Philadelphia. 
http://hospitalityjamaica.com/achieve1.html


Those DC-10s were pure awesomeness!!! Shiny and big and beautiful and everything great. Not to mention the A306 out of Miami as well and those 727 doing the night stay-over.

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hummingbird wrote:
"The return of non-stop service on Vacation Express from Dallas Fort Worth to Montego Bay this summer will assist the destination in attracting increased visitors from the west/southwest," said Paul Pennicook, Jamaica's Director of Tourism. "Visitors wishing to experience our rich heritage and diverse culture and cuisine are encouraged to take advantage of the special offers now available."
Jamaica has become an even more enticing destination for travelers with the introduction of three brand-new, all-inclusive resorts on the island. Royalton Blue Waters is located in Montego Bay and Royalton Negril and Hideaway at Royalton Negril are on the popular beaches of Negril. All three resorts offer Royalton's All-In Luxury® concept which features luxurious benefits to all guests, including the exquisitely comfortable DreamBedTM, free high-speed Wi-Fi resort-wide, 24-hour room service, the Sports Event GuaranteeTM and more.
Flights to Jamaica will be operated by Swift Air, LLC. on a Boeing 737 aircraft. The value-packed flights will enable travelers to sit back and relax while enjoying a complimentary non-alcoholic beverage and snack. Each traveler will be permitted one free carry-on bag and the option to purchase add-ons like Preferred Seating starting at $20 or Elite Plus starting at $39 each way and can bundle options which include checked luggage for the best value. Flights to Punta Cana will also be operated by Swift Air, LLC.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/vacation- ... 00607.html


When this is about start please send me a reminder.

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hummingbird wrote:
The Virgin Atlantic Boeing 747 flight VS65 was heading to Jamaica's Montego Bay when it was struck just moments after take-off.
The pilots were reportedly then forced to swerve the jet around and land back at Gatwick.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest- ... 747-flight


I noticed there wasn't a Sunday flight but they will have back to back flights Tuesday and Wednesday. Guess that downed plane really hampered operations. And with only 8 747s it's hard to find replacement.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:06 am

hummingbird wrote:
American Airlines celebrates this year its 40-year anniversary in Jamaica. The airline began flying to Jamaica on March 2, 1977, with one daily flight from New York-JFK to Montego Bay (MBJ) and Kingston (KIN) on a McDonnell-Douglas DC-10 aircraft.
At the time, the airline employed 14 people in Jamaica. Today, American Airlines employs 94 people in the country and operates almost 90 nonstop weekly flights from KIN and MBJ to the United States.

The airline currently operates 21 weekly flights from KIN to Miami as well as 67 weekly flights from MBJ to seven destinations in the United States - Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Dallas/Fort Worth, Los Angeles, Miami and Philadelphia. 


Rmjhjr wrote:
Those DC-10s were pure awesomeness!!! Shiny and big and beautiful and everything great. Not to mention the A306 out of Miami as well and those 727 doing the night stay-over.


AA has had quite a history with Jamaica indeed. DC10s, the noisy B727's (which I liked viewing & hearing :smile: ), B767s, A300s, B757s... to the B738s, A321s & A320s. My all-time favorite was the A300s though. Really miss those "birds". On another note... I was not aware that AA employed so many persons in Jamaica. I figured it was a sizable number, but it's much larger than I thought. Regarding flight operations... let us keep in mind that they also did FLL-KIN for a brief period as well.

hummingbird wrote:
The Virgin Atlantic Boeing 747 flight VS65 was heading to Jamaica's Montego Bay when it was struck just moments after take-off.
The pilots were reportedly then forced to swerve the jet around and land back at Gatwick.


Good to know that they were able to return to LGW safely out of precaution. It reminds me of the JM A320 that was preparing for departure from MBJ to MIA as JM 023 (back in the summer 1999 I think) when it was also struck by lightning, slightly injuring 4 ground crew members. The flight subsequently departed 30 minutes later after inspections.
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:12 pm

airjamaica wrote:
hummingbird wrote:
American Airlines celebrates this year its 40-year anniversary in Jamaica. The airline began flying to Jamaica on March 2, 1977, with one daily flight from New York-JFK to Montego Bay (MBJ) and Kingston (KIN) on a McDonnell-Douglas DC-10 aircraft.
At the time, the airline employed 14 people in Jamaica. Today, American Airlines employs 94 people in the country and operates almost 90 nonstop weekly flights from KIN and MBJ to the United States.

The airline currently operates 21 weekly flights from KIN to Miami as well as 67 weekly flights from MBJ to seven destinations in the United States - Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Dallas/Fort Worth, Los Angeles, Miami and Philadelphia. 


Rmjhjr wrote:
Those DC-10s were pure awesomeness!!! Shiny and big and beautiful and everything great. Not to mention the A306 out of Miami as well and those 727 doing the night stay-over.


AA has had quite a history with Jamaica indeed. DC10s, the noisy B727's (which I liked viewing & hearing :smile: ), B767s, A300s, B757s... to the B738s, A321s & A320s. My all-time favorite was the A300s though. Really miss those "birds". On another note... I was not aware that AA employed so many persons in Jamaica. I figured it was a sizable number, but it's much larger than I thought. Regarding flight operations... let us keep in mind that they also did FLL-KIN for a brief period as well.


Yeah man, they have the largest workforce of the lot; think JB is second to them.

airjamaica wrote:
hummingbird wrote:
The Virgin Atlantic Boeing 747 flight VS65 was heading to Jamaica's Montego Bay when it was struck just moments after take-off.
The pilots were reportedly then forced to swerve the jet around and land back at Gatwick.


Good to know that they were able to return to LGW safely out of precaution. It reminds me of the JM A320 that was preparing for departure from MBJ to MIA as JM 023 (back in the summer 1999 I think) when it was also struck by lightning, slightly injuring 4 ground crew members. The flight subsequently departed 30 minutes later after inspections.


One thing about AJ is that they were safety-first, even it means delays they always made sure safety was paramount and their safety record spoke for itself.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:54 pm

Rmjhjr wrote:
Yeah man, they have the largest workforce of the lot; think JB is second to them.

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Larger than BW which has cockpit, cabin and engineering crews, in addition to their ground staff?
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:14 am

guyanam wrote:
Rmjhjr wrote:
Yeah man, they have the largest workforce of the lot; think JB is second to them.

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Larger than BW which has cockpit, cabin and engineering crews, in addition to their ground staff?


B6 is a bigger deal than CAL over here, sir. And I will try to get figures from my source. Of course, I did say I think...
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:55 am

Rmjhjr wrote:
guyanam wrote:
Rmjhjr wrote:
Yeah man, they have the largest workforce of the lot; think JB is second to them.

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Larger than BW which has cockpit, cabin and engineering crews, in addition to their ground staff?


B6 is a bigger deal than CAL over here, sir. And I will try to get figures from my source. Of course, I did say I think...



BW actually has maintenance facilities in Jamaica. While B6 has more flights they come in, and head right back to the USA with their US based flight crews. BW has a crew base in Jamaica.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:20 am

guyanam wrote:
Rmjhjr wrote:
guyanam wrote:


Larger than BW which has cockpit, cabin and engineering crews, in addition to their ground staff?


B6 is a bigger deal than CAL over here, sir. And I will try to get figures from my source. Of course, I did say I think...



BW actually has maintenance facilities in Jamaica. While B6 has more flights they come in, and head right back to the USA with their US based flight crews. BW has a crew base in Jamaica.


B6 has a lot of Jamaican employees... A good deal of them I attended school with at some point. Like I said I will double check
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:22 pm

Rmjhjr wrote:
guyanam wrote:
Rmjhjr wrote:

B6 is a bigger deal than CAL over here, sir. And I will try to get figures from my source. Of course, I did say I think...



BW actually has maintenance facilities in Jamaica. While B6 has more flights they come in, and head right back to the USA with their US based flight crews. BW has a crew base in Jamaica.


B6 has a lot of Jamaican employees... A good deal of them I attended school with at some point. Like I said I will double check



Are we talking about Jamaicans working for B6 or the number of employees that B6 has in Jamaica? I am referring to the latter.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:52 am

Guys I saw a Fly Jamaica 757 doing a flight from SCL to CCS this early morning but why did they fly that route? Looking at their very small fleet don't they need all the aircraft they can?

Hoe are they doing financially? I somehow can't help but compare them to Insel Air who has an old fleet too but eventually Insel Air broke down with no money to recover or go for newer more reliable aircraft :(


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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:25 am

A388 wrote:
Guys I saw a Fly Jamaica 757 doing a flight from SCL to CCS this early morning but why did they fly that route? Looking at their very small fleet don't they need all the aircraft they can?

Hoe are they doing financially? I somehow can't help but compare them to Insel Air who has an old fleet too but eventually Insel Air broke down with no money to recover or go for newer more reliable aircraft :(


A388



OJs current schedule can be supported with one plane. The 2nd one is for back up so they try to find charters to keep it busy. With such low utilization normally there isn't a problem unless an unscheduled break down occurs while the other plane is in for servicing.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:47 am

Okay I didn't know that but at same time I'm wondering if it's a good thing to have a one aircraft operation and having a spare aircraft doing nothing? I assume both aircraft have their monthly lease rates but only one aircraft flies. Isn't that expensive?

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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:35 am

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One thing about AJ is that they were safety-first, even it means delays they always made sure safety was paramount and their safety record spoke for itself.


True. From the A300/B727 days... (& probably even prior to that with the DC8s/DC9s) to the A310/A320/A321/MD88 days, JM received a lot of bad rap for their delays. But as you said, they were extremely meticulous where safety was concerned, regardless of what criticisms they received. Their enviable safety record is quite note worthy.
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:51 am

A388 wrote:
Okay I didn't know that but at same time I'm wondering if it's a good thing to have a one aircraft operation and having a spare aircraft doing nothing? I assume both aircraft have their monthly lease rates but only one aircraft flies. Isn't that expensive?

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OJ doesn't have lease expenses. The planes are owned by its parent company. How the acquisition of these planes was financed isn't known. I do know that the planes are US registered.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:54 am

According to a press release, the weekly Cayman Airways Express (KX, Grand Cayman Island) Saab 340B-operated service will use Kingston Norman Manley, Jamaica, as a technical stop on the outbound sector. The flight departed the Cayman Islands on Tuesday, March 28, with the return leg scheduled for Wednesday, March 29.

http://ch-aviation.com/portal/news/5467 ... l-charters

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Rmjhjr wrote:
When this is about start please send me a reminder.

Will do.


Rmjhjr wrote:
Those DC-10s were pure awesomeness!!! Shiny and big and beautiful and everything great. Not to mention the A306 out of Miami as well and those 727 doing the night stay-over.


Agree. The A306s were a treat.


airjamaica wrote:
AA has had quite a history with Jamaica indeed. DC10s, the noisy B727's (which I liked viewing & hearing ), B767s, A300s, B757s... to the B738s, A321s & A320s. My all-time favorite was the A300s though. Really miss those "birds". On another note... I was not aware that AA employed so many persons in Jamaica. I figured it was a sizable number, but it's much larger than I thought. Regarding flight operations... let us keep in mind that they also did FLL-KIN for a brief period as well.


Hoping to see an A330 for W17/18.

A388 wrote:
Guys I saw a Fly Jamaica 757 doing a flight from SCL to CCS this early morning but why did they fly that route? Looking at their very small fleet don't they need all the aircraft they can?Hoe are they doing financially? I somehow can't help but compare them to Insel Air who has an old fleet too but eventually Insel Air broke down with no money to recover or go for newer more reliable aircraft


The B757 flew to CCS then continued to SCL where it spent a few days. It returned to KIN yesterday.
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:57 am

Okay thanks for the clarifications about Fly Jamaica. What's the status of their fleet expansion or fleet replacement? Are they thinking of replacing their existing fleet? When will they expand and add other routes or will they stick to their current routes only?

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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:38 pm

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TUI maintains it's Sunday and Wednesday slot - cool.

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BPA returning to Wednesday ops? Sweet.
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:55 pm

A388 wrote:
Okay thanks for the clarifications about Fly Jamaica. What's the status of their fleet expansion or fleet replacement? Are they thinking of replacing their existing fleet? When will they expand and add other routes or will they stick to their current routes only?

A388



They have stated an intent to do an IPO to acquire more planes with a view to adding more routes. I think that they have tapped out their own resources as they acquired their existing flett.. If they do this then more financial info about them will have to be revealed as this will be a public exercise.

It might be better if they do a private placement as I don't think that the general public in the Caribbean are interested in stock that don't pay dividends, or that have limited marketability.

Personally I think that OJ has very limited options for growth. The FL market is highly competitive and the JFK and YYZ are now mature markets with only nominal growth in the VFR segment. Its very hard for a Caribbean carrier to make strong inroads into the leisure sectors, except in new routes where there isn't competition. The only exciting news will be if Guyana gets Cat 1 FAA status, which will allow them to significantly increase their GEO JFK route.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:47 pm

Take a look at UA flights into MBJ today.
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https://flightaware.com/live/findflight/KORD/MKJS

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https://flightaware.com/live/findflight/KEWR/MKJS

2 ex IAH
https://flightaware.com/live/findflight/MKJS/KIAH
I IAD
https://flightaware.com/live/findflight/MKJS/KIAD


PAWA Dominicana is looking at serving KIN and will acquire CRJs for the route.

Article is in Spanish.

https://a2d.news/pawa-dominicana-aspira ... onnection/

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Officials have confirmed to Demerara Waves Online News on condition of anonymity that 154 Haitians landed at the Cheddi Jagan International Airport (CJIA) at about 1:45  Thursday morning. A Fly Jamaica plane flew the passengers from Port-au-Prince to Guyana directly.
“They came as tourists. It’s the first time we are seeing it,” a well-placed source said. They were allowed entry and they all had travel documents. The source said “we are investigating it” , adding that the visitors gave a number of addresses.


https://demerarawaves.com/2017/03/31/mo ... in-guyana/

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A388 wrote:
Okay thanks for the clarifications about Fly Jamaica. What's the status of their fleet expansion or fleet replacement? Are they thinking of replacing their existing fleet? When will they expand and add other routes or will they stick to their current routes only?


All energy is being thrust in getting the Air Guyana operations in action. Cuba and New York will be the first two markets. Boeing 757/767 will be the backbone with plans to acquire B737s.


Rmjhjr wrote:
TUI maintains it's Sunday and Wednesday slot - cool.


If the market performs well in 2017, we will see a new nonstop service in 2018.

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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:21 am

PAWA is benefiting from the bad situation of Insel Air. They are now functioning as the "Insel Air" from Curacao as we can reach almost all the destinations that Insel Air used to fly with the only difference being that you need to connect in SDQ. We can even go from CUR to AUA with PAWA flying all the way via SDQ to go back to AUA and their ticket prices are even cheaper then Insel Air now!!! We can still go to SDQ, SXM, AUA, MIA, PAP, HAV, SJU and more destinations so Insel Air is really not needed anymore. It's sad actually but true.

PAWA already has their first CRJ which is doing test flights now and rumor is that they will use it to CUR as well.

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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:25 am

airjamaica wrote:
Rmjhjr wrote:
One thing about AJ is that they were safety-first, even it means delays they always made sure safety was paramount and their safety record spoke for itself.


True. From the A300/B727 days... (& probably even prior to that with the DC8s/DC9s) to the A310/A320/A321/MD88 days, JM received a lot of bad rap for their delays. But as you said, they were extremely meticulous where safety was concerned, regardless of what criticisms they received. Their enviable safety record is quite note worthy.


LOL Actually, not MD-88's but MD-83's (acquired from DL). Don't forget the A340s, and the short-lived A319's.
But I agree... All in all, JM's record of safety has been matchless. More airlines should learn from such practices.

(And btw, was I the only person that thought the A321's in JM's 1994 Sunset livery was the sexiest?)
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:39 am

hummingbird wrote:
Rmjhjr wrote:
Those DC-10s were pure awesomeness!!! Shiny and big and beautiful and everything great. Not to mention the A306 out of Miami as well and those 727 doing the night stay-over.

Agree. The A306s were a treat.


Nostalgic moment here! the Airbus A300-600R's was a sight to behold. Use to enjoy them on the KIN-MIA/JFK runs. Even after it ended, it was great to hear that it operated a KIN-MIA run during Christmas week 2007.
Talking about Christmas... did anyone had any idea AA's 767-300ERs came to KIN seasonally to JFK?
Then there was the 757-200's that even did the late-night inbounds and early-morning outbounds to MIA. Not to mention the aircraft's JFK seasonal runs during summers and winters.

With the new AA now in place, the possibilities are endless. Return of the A319's on the KIN market? Do a A321 run seasonally within KIN? A drop of 763ERS for the midhaul MBJ flights? Possibility of an A330 showing some love? Who knows.
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:54 am

callmedrewy wrote:
LOL Actually, not MD-88's but MD-83's (acquired from DL).


Lol. Yes. You are quite correct. It was the MD-83's indeed. (I was having a "senior" moment it seems. :old: ) They were deployed on various routes throughout their network... but I used to see them on the ORD, NAS & GCM routes mostly when I used to work at Manley.

callmedrewy wrote:
Don't forget the A340s, and the short-lived A319's.


I can't belive I forgot about the A340s & A319s... aka "Baby-bus". I'm really getting old! Lol.

callmedrewy wrote:
But I agree... All in all, JM's record of safety has been matchless.


Indeed. They have had their minor incidents etc. But over all an impressive record. I think their closest shave with disaster was with the instrument malfunction at Manley during a heavy downpour when the A310 operating JM 010 JFK-MBJ-KIN ended up over Liguanea while preparing to land in KIN. Can't remember what year it happened, but the crew handled the situation professionally to avert what could have been a tragedy.

callmedrewy wrote:
(And btw, was I the only person that thought the A321's in JM's 1994 Sunset livery was the sexiest?)


Hmmm... The A321s were OK for me... but I had a preference for the A320s. Flew on both of them more times than I can remember. The only ones in their "sunset" fleet I didn't get to fly on were the A340, A319, & the MD-83. I was booked on the MD-83 once on the KIN-MBJ leg, but it went tech & they sub an A320 that arrived from LAX/MBJ to operate the flight. I was not pleased. Lol. Wanted to experience the MD-83... but it just didn't happen unfortunately.

callmedrewy wrote:
Nostalgic moment here! the Airbus A300-600R's was a sight to behold.


Yep. They always stood out. Big & "in your face" so to speak. I can easily see why AA kept them in their fleet for so long. Those big birds were capable of transporting lots of cargo... which made them ideal for Caribbean routes (#kitchen sink passengers) & some Latin American routes such as LIM, PTY, BOG, SJO etc.

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Talking about Christmas... did anyone had any idea AA's 767-300ERs came to KIN seasonally to JFK?


Yes. They certainly did. Not sure if they ever operated on the KIN/MBJ - MIA runs... but I do recall them on the KIN-JFK runs at times... mostly during Christmas.

callmedrewy wrote:
Then there was the 757-200's that even did the late-night inbounds and early-morning outbounds to MIA.


I remember those too. Flew their B752's once on KIN-MIA and connecting on MIA-EWR. Old tattered birds. The ones I flew on obviousy were flying around for quite some time! Lol.

callmedrewy wrote:
With the new AA now in place, the possibilities are endless. Return of the A319's on the KIN market?


The A319 did a few KIN-MIA runs recently.

callmedrewy wrote:
Possibility of an A330 showing some love? Who knows.


That would be great. On the topic of AA... I still maintain that the classic original livery with blue/white/red cheatlines on the fuselage & eagle between the two A's on the tail was far more creative and eye catching than the current livery. Simple but appealing. But that's just my opinion.
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:28 pm

airjamaica wrote:
callmedrewy wrote:
LOL Actually, not MD-88's but MD-83's (acquired from DL).


Lol. Yes. You are quite correct. It was the MD-83's indeed. (I was having a "senior" moment it seems. :old: ) They were deployed on various routes throughout their network... but I used to see them on the ORD, NAS & GCM routes mostly when I used to work at Manley.

callmedrewy wrote:
Don't forget the A340s, and the short-lived A319's.


I can't belive I forgot about the A340s & A319s... aka "Baby-bus". I'm really getting old! Lol.

callmedrewy wrote:
But I agree... All in all, JM's record of safety has been matchless.


Indeed. They have had their minor incidents etc. But over all an impressive record. I think their closest shave with disaster was with the instrument malfunction at Manley during a heavy downpour when the A310 operating JM 010 JFK-MBJ-KIN ended up over Liguanea while preparing to land in KIN. Can't remember what year it happened, but the crew handled the situation professionally to avert what could have been a tragedy.

callmedrewy wrote:
(And btw, was I the only person that thought the A321's in JM's 1994 Sunset livery was the sexiest?)


Hmmm... The A321s were OK for me... but I had a preference for the A320s. Flew on both of them more times than I can remember. The only ones in their "sunset" fleet I didn't get to fly on were the A340, A319, & the MD-83. I was booked on the MD-83 once on the KIN-MBJ leg, but it went tech & they sub an A320 that arrived from LAX/MBJ to operate the flight. I was not pleased. Lol. Wanted to experience the MD-83... but it just didn't happen unfortunately.

callmedrewy wrote:
Nostalgic moment here! the Airbus A300-600R's was a sight to behold.


Yep. They always stood out. Big & "in your face" so to speak. I can easily see why AA kept them in their fleet for so long. Those big birds were capable of transporting lots of cargo... which made them ideal for Caribbean routes (#kitchen sink passengers) & some Latin American routes such as LIM, PTY, BOG, SJO etc.

callmedrewy wrote:
Talking about Christmas... did anyone had any idea AA's 767-300ERs came to KIN seasonally to JFK?


Yes. They certainly did. Not sure if they ever operated on the KIN/MBJ - MIA runs... but I do recall them on the KIN-JFK runs at times... mostly during Christmas.

callmedrewy wrote:
Then there was the 757-200's that even did the late-night inbounds and early-morning outbounds to MIA.


I remember those too. Flew their B752's once on KIN-MIA and connecting on MIA-EWR. Old tattered birds. The ones I flew on obviousy were flying around for quite some time! Lol.

callmedrewy wrote:
With the new AA now in place, the possibilities are endless. Return of the A319's on the KIN market?


The A319 did a few KIN-MIA runs recently.

callmedrewy wrote:
Possibility of an A330 showing some love? Who knows.


That would be great. On the topic of AA... I still maintain that the classic original livery with blue/white/red cheatlines on the fuselage & eagle between the two A's on the tail was far more creative and eye catching than the current livery. Simple but appealing. But that's just my opinion.


All in all, I gotta say the Tri-jets always did it for me. They were just different and made you have to just stare in awe. Only the MD I didn't get to see from them but basically all the others.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:41 pm

That's absolutely true Rmjhjr. Tr-jets rule!!! L1011's and DC-10's are the best. I miss them myself and I wish I had taken more photos of the Tri-jet era!!! I have a few hard copy photos but so far no scanner to digitalize these valuable photos :(

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Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:01 pm

Minister of Tourism, Hon. Edmund Bartlett, says Jamaica is once again a favourite getaway spot for the rich and famous, proving even more that there is a lucrative market for high-end resorts.
The Minister added that the island is also the number-one destination in the region for honeymooners.
“Just the other day, we had Prince Harry and his actress girlfriend, Meghan Markle, at Round Hill, Hanover, where they attended a wedding,” Minister Bartlett told JIS News.
“Also, recently, there was Khloe Kardashian from the reality hit show, Keeping up with the Kardashians, and her National Basketball Association (NBA) boyfriend, Tristan Thompson, were also here. Prior to that, Khloe’s brother and his celebrity girlfriend were also here,” he said.
Mr. Bartlett said he is very happy with how things are panning out in the industry, noting that Jamaica is now the envy of many other destinations.
“I have been saying, at every opportunity, that we do have an opportunity to capitalise on the high-end market. I am very encouraged by some of the luxury brands we have coming on stream, where, very soon, we will be one of the premier destinations in the Western Hemisphere for that kind of market,” he said.

http://jis.gov.jm/jamaica-favourite-spo ... -minister/
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The long-proposed upgrading and expansion of the Negril Aerodrome at Rutland Point in Hanover is listed as a priority task for the Airports Authority of Jamaica (AAJ) in Jamaica's National Development Plan, Vision 2030, but the facility remains under-utilised since it was downgraded in 2014.
In its 2010-2011 annual report, the AAJ stated that plans to upgrade the Negril Aerodrome were deferred to the next financial year, as a comprehensive project was being contemplated for the aerodrome's development.
But five years later, in its 2015-2016 report, the agency noted that during the period ... the Negril Aerodrome underwent a declassification (downgrading) exercise.
For many years, the aerodrome primarily served the tourist resorts located within the Negril area but activities were scaled down after several carriers terminated flights to the town.
 
Plans to relocate
 
Now hotelier and co-founder of the Negril Chamber of Commerce, Daniel Grizzle, says it is way past time for the AAJ and the Urban Development Corporation (UDC) to revisit and implement plans to relocate and upgrade the Negril aerodrome to an international port of entry.
"The UDC has lands pretty close by. The chamber wanted to have an airstrip that was capable of taking small jets - planes that could carry up to a hundred people. The problem with that little one is because of the location, closeness to the hotels and the proximity to the gas station; it is at the wrong location and cannot be expanded," Grizzle told The Sunday Gleaner.
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/lead-stories/20170402/negril-needs-airport-grizzle

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Jamaican nationals who possess US, UK or Canadian visas can now enter Cayman without obtaining a visa specifically for that country.
Earlier this year, Premier Hon Alden McLaughlin announced a conditional visa exemption to make it easy for Chinese and Jamaicans with said visas to travel to Cayman.
According to Cayman 27, visitors who have any of these visas must be visiting the Cayman Islands directly from the US, UK or Canada and the duration of their stay should not exceed 30 days.
All other Chinese and Jamaican visitors, including cruise shippers, are required to get a visa unless they are in transit to join a cruise ship crew or a crew member of a commercial airline.

http://jablogz.com/2017/04/cayman-gover ... ian-visas/

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Hollywood Beach in Fort Lauderdale was recently transformed into Carnival central allowing visitors to experience a first‐hand taste of Jamaica’s Bacchanal 2017, in Caribbean Airlines’ Jamaica “Wanna Jam” Promotion.
The Beach came alive with the sounds of authentic soca and dance hall music by Y100’s DJ GQ, costumed revellers and host, popular NBC anchor Sharon Lawson. Red Rat was a surprise performer at the promotion that featured dance competitions and steel pan lessons. One lucky person also won two tickets to Jamaica courtesy of Caribbean Airlines. 
Caribbean Airlines’ Senior Marketing Manager, Alicia Cabrera, noted, "Caribbean Airlines is thrilled to offer this once in a lifetime opportunity for a lucky winner and a guest to enjoy the party side of Jamaica. From the music to the costumes, to the energy, Carnival in Kingston is just a flight away. We want our customers to know when they are thinking about an airline, Caribbean Airlines is the best choice, as the experience of the islands begin the moment you board, with daily flights from Ft Lauderdale to Kingston and Montego Bay and seamless connections throughout the Caribbean region.”


http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/life ... wood-beach

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callmedrewy wrote:
Talking about Christmas... did anyone had any idea AA's 767-300ERs came to KIN seasonally to JFK?


Not that I am aware, but I saw it once on a KIN-MIA flight..

callmedrewy wrote:
With the new AA now in place, the possibilities are endless. Return of the A319's on the KIN market? Do a A321 run seasonally within KIN? A drop of 763ERS for the midhaul MBJ flights? Possibility of an A330 showing some love? Who knows.


Perhaps the A321s will show up in KIN on a seasonal basis.
A330 may possibly operate winter flights from their CLT and PHL. The majority of flights from these cities are on the A321s.

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but I used to see them on the ORD, NAS & GCM routes mostly when I used to work at Manley.


From MBJ I remember it being on the EWR,ATL and CUR.

JM's first experience with the aircraft was a wet lease from Mexican carrier Allegro.

Take a look at this doc from 1997.
http://airlineinfo.com/oiapdf/76.pdf

BWI ORD and FLL-MBJ/KIN

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PAWA is benefiting from the bad situation of Insel Air. They are now functioning as the "Insel Air" from Curacao as we can reach almost all the destinations that Insel Air used to fly with the only difference being that you need to connect in SDQ. We can even go from CUR to AUA with PAWA flying all the way via SDQ to go back to AUA and their ticket prices are even cheaper then Insel Air now!!! We can still go to SDQ, SXM, AUA, MIA, PAP, HAV, SJU and more destinations so Insel Air is really not needed anymore. It's sad actually but true. PAWA already has their first CRJ which is doing test flights now and rumor is that they will use it to CUR as well.


Perfect aircraft for a CUR base, should the local authorities grant access.

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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:32 am

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All in all, I gotta say the Tri-jets always did it for me. They were just different and made you have to just stare in awe. Only the MD I didn't get to see from them but basically all the others.


A388 wrote:
That's absolutely true Rmjhjr. Tr-jets rule!!! L1011's and DC-10's are the best. I miss them myself and I wish I had taken more photos of the Tri-jet era!!!


Yes the Tri-Jets really stood out as well back then. Liked them too. AC used them a lot on YYZ-MBJ-KIN in the 1980s. Also JM used to charter one from HA to operate the LAX-MBJ (with KIN tag on at times) route in the 1980s as well. It was always a sight to behold the colorful HA tri-star jet at MBJ. In addition, both TW & TZ used L1011's into MBJ as well from LAX & DTW respectively. TZ also did IAH-MBJ with them a few times too.
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:26 pm

Man I didn't know JM used their MD83 to CUR too, thanks hummingbird. It must have been during the years I was studying abroad. The CRJ indeed sounds like a better aircraft on the SDQ route. I'm not sure if PAWA wants to set up a base here but like you said, let's see if the authorities will grant this.

airjamaica, wow I didn't know JM leased a L1011 from HA that indeed is a very beautiful aircraft. I saw it in SFO and a photo of it. I was always jealous of them because I thought they copied their livery from our own homegrown airline ALM hahahaha. I was a kid so I didn't know any better. I saw the L1011's in SJU too (EA, DL and TW). In CUR I saw the L1011 of TP, BW and Worldways from Canada and the UK Air Force once. EA had a day where they flew several aircraft to CUR and it was related to cruise ships at the time. In AMS I saw the L1011 of RJ, Air Lanka and that airline operating flights for K8 at the time.

Too bad I don't have much photos of these L1011's and sad I've never been able to fly in one.

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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:26 am

A388 wrote:
airjamaica, wow I didn't know JM leased a L1011 from HA that indeed is a very beautiful aircraft. I saw it in SFO and a photo of it. I was always jealous of them because I thought they copied their livery from our own homegrown airline ALM hahahaha. I was a kid so I didn't know any better.
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Lol. Yes the HA livery back then indeed had a similar design to LM's. The only 3 carriers I can think of with that style were HA, LM & the previous IB. Maybe there were a few others that I am not aware of. I liked the style. Different from the usual cheat line styles.
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:44 pm

A388 wrote:
Man I didn't know JM used their MD83 to CUR too, thanks hummingbird. It must have been during the years I was studying abroad.


Actually I will correct my previous statement. It may have been used to CUR back then. I should have said BON and not CUR. A long time friend who at the time worked at JM time mentioned a MD83 near stall incident in BON.

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TOURISM GOING FORWARD
Aggressive Campaign Targeting New and Emerging Markets
Mr. Speaker, to increase the country’s global market share of international tourists we are seeking to tap further into existing and new markets. To this end,
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we have already initiated discussions with several airlines and tour companies to introduce new locations to their Jamaican itinerary, and we also plan to aggressively target promising markets such as Asia (China, South Korea, and Japan), Latin America, Eastern Europe and also the Caribbean. We will also continue to aggressively pursue a multi-destination marketing arrangement with Cuba and the Dominican Republic.
As a matter of fact, working in partnership with Delta Airlines, we will be hosting a familiarization trip from Korea in early May.
Mr. Speaker, we have also been in discussions with China with the aim of concretizing another tripartite agreement between China, Jamaica and Cuba, which will allow us to tap into the Chinese market substantially.
We also recognize that Cuba is strategically positioned to help fuel the growth of tourism in the Caribbean, which would augur well for Jamaica. We are taking proactive steps to leverage our longstanding relationship with Cuba to boost our arrivals.
The Jamaica Tourist Board will continue to identify new and emerging markets, cultivate new relationships with travel partners and disseminate timely and useful marketing information to its offices and travel partners across the world.

Targeting Europe
Mr. Speaker, very special efforts are being made to expand our reach into Europe and we have already registered success.
After participating in the largest tourism trade show in the world, ITB Berlin, and the International Hotel Investment Forum recently I am pleased to inform this honourable house that:
o One of Europe’s leading airlines, Eurowings, a subsidiary of Lufthansa, will begin operating twice weekly scheduled service between Germany’s largest populated metropolitan region (Bonn/Cologne) and Montego Bay, beginning July 3 this year.


o We plan to more than double to 50,000 the number of German tourist arrivals into the island by 2020. The Tourism Ministry and the JTB will be working closely with TUI, the world’s largest tour operator, and other partners to achieve this target. TUI Group brought over 150,000 visitors to Jamaica's shores in 2016.

o Weekly charter flights between Spain, Portugal and Jamaica will begin in June of this year. The Portugal flights will be operated by Orbest from June 9 to September 29 and goes out of their capital city Lisbon. Meanwhile, the Spain flights will be operated by Evelop non-stop out of their capital city, Madrid, into Montego Bay from June 4 to October 28.

o Several of Jamaica’s honorary consuls in Europe will be appointed as unpaid tourism advisors to the Tourism Ministry, in an effort to significantly boost Jamaica’s market share for European tourists. This is pending consultations with Foreign Affairs Minister, Senator Kamina Johnson Smith.

o Among the roles of the tourism advisors, most of whom reside in cities and countries where Jamaica has little or no presence, is to work closely with the JTB and the Ministry of Tourism in marketing the destination, attracting investments for the sector, assist in coordinating increased airlift arrangements from several European destinations into Jamaica and be the point of contact for all government-related tourism activities in their respective countries and cities.


http://jis.gov.jm/hon-edmund-bartlett-s ... ve-growth/

More room=More Air Seats.

Tourism Minister, Hon. Edmund Bartlett, says Jamaica’s hotel room capacity will increase by more than 1,000 during the 2017 calendar year.
“Over 3,000 rooms are currently (available) or are being made available, which we never had the winter before. Of that amount, close to 2,000 have already been added or will be coming on stream in the next few weeks and months,” he said.


http://jis.gov.jm/1000-additional-hotel ... uilt-year/


Take a look at these different views at MBJ.

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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:50 pm

hummingbird wrote:
Take a look at UA flights into MBJ today.
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3 ex ORD
https://flightaware.com/live/findflight/KORD/MKJS

3 ex EWR
https://flightaware.com/live/findflight/KEWR/MKJS

2 ex IAH
https://flightaware.com/live/findflight/MKJS/KIAH
I IAD
https://flightaware.com/live/findflight/MKJS/KIAD


PAWA Dominicana is looking at serving KIN and will acquire CRJs for the route.

Article is in Spanish.

https://a2d.news/pawa-dominicana-aspira ... onnection/

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Officials have confirmed to Demerara Waves Online News on condition of anonymity that 154 Haitians landed at the Cheddi Jagan International Airport (CJIA) at about 1:45  Thursday morning. A Fly Jamaica plane flew the passengers from Port-au-Prince to Guyana directly.
“They came as tourists. It’s the first time we are seeing it,” a well-placed source said. They were allowed entry and they all had travel documents. The source said “we are investigating it” , adding that the visitors gave a number of addresses.


https://demerarawaves.com/2017/03/31/mo ... in-guyana/

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A388 wrote:
Okay thanks for the clarifications about Fly Jamaica. What's the status of their fleet expansion or fleet replacement? Are they thinking of replacing their existing fleet? When will they expand and add other routes or will they stick to their current routes only?


All energy is being thrust in getting the Air Guyana operations in action. Cuba and New York will be the first two markets. Boeing 757/767 will be the backbone with plans to acquire B737s.


Rmjhjr wrote:
TUI maintains it's Sunday and Wednesday slot - cool.


If the market performs well in 2017, we will see a new nonstop service in 2018.

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CARIBBEAN AIRLINE EXPAND TO ST ST VINCENT - CUBA NEXT

CAL to operate scheduled flights into new St Vincent airport

The Trinidad-based Caribbean Airlines (CAL) is to operate scheduled flights between the Piarco International Airport and the recently opened Argyle International Airport (AIA) in St Vincent, it has been officially announced.

AIA spokesperson Tabia Matthews, in a brief press statement said that the scheduled flights will operate on Fridays and Sundays and will offer passengers “connections to their other North American destinations”.

CUBA
“Additionally, CAL is working towards opening a Cuban gateway, which will benefit a wide range of travellers, including students who are studying in Cuba. CAL’s cargo service is also expected to commence soon. The AIA team takes this opportunity to officially welcome Caribbean Airlines on board,” Matthews said.

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestne ... nt-airport

Barbados will see less people using that airport as a connection especially for those living in North America and LIAT is finally getting some competition
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:04 am

Guys, do any of you know or can find out whether there will be Caribbean charter flights to Curacao because of the CARIFTA Games to be held here between 15-17 April?


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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:59 pm

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Guys, do any of you know or can find out whether there will be Caribbean charter flights to Curacao because of the CARIFTA Games to be held here between 15-17 April?


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I would think so given that there are few ways to travel from KIN to CUR. The Jamaican contingent always being the largest. I also doubt that PY can fully accommodate the loads out of POS given the absence of Insel.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:23 pm

Thanks guyanam. Will Fly Jamaica be doing a charter flight to bring in the Jamaican athletes and/or fans? They have that 757 as spare aircraft, can they use that?

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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:33 pm

A388 wrote:
Thanks guyanam. Will Fly Jamaica be doing a charter flight to bring in the Jamaican athletes and/or fans? They have that 757 as spare aircraft, can they use that?

A388


I pretty much assume that they will given that Jamaica has a large contingent. OJ runs frequent charters for Jamaican teams trying to get to hard to reach places. Maybe Cayman and T&C will hop a ride with them as getting to KIN is easy.

Bahamas will arrive on UP I think, as they are another team with a huge contingent. I assume that T&T will arrive on a flag stop BW ride on its KIN route, with maybe Guyana hopping a ride with them, and BGI and GND. Obviously Surinam on PY. Boutersie has been known to snatch PY planes when he wants to go on a trip so I think that he can do the same for the Suriname team if existing PY flights are full. I think that PY has enough slack in their fleet.

As to the rest. Who knows. I assume that Haiti, DR and PR as well as the USVI and BVI can arrive on PAWA. Maybe USVI can charter a 30 seat plane as they too I think should have a decent sized team, especially if they share with BVI.

SLU is sending a 10 person team, which is what I assume that the other smaller places will also do.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:07 am

InselAir has a character operating CUR-BGI-CUR on the 14th and returning on the 18th with F50.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:13 am

guyanam wrote:
I assume that Haiti, DR and PR as well as the USVI and BVI can arrive on PAWA. Maybe USVI can charter a 30 seat plane as they too I think should have a decent sized team, especially if they share with BVI.


I doubt they went through all that trouble. STX/STT passengers headed to CUR usually connect in MIA, which isnt too expensive. Passengers from EIS can connect in SXM to CUR.
 
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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:40 am

Thanks for all the information guys. Will Fly Jamaica or Caribbean Airlines carry the Jamaican athletes to Curacao? If so, what are the dates and times? Is Guadeloupe/Martinique also participating or is it only the English speaking Islands? I wonder which other countries are participating. I can't find information on which countries will be participating.

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Re: Westbound over the Atlantic. Jamaican Thread #59

Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:38 pm

windian425 wrote:
InselAir has a character operating CUR-BGI-CUR on the 14th and returning on the 18th with F50.


That is a long haul on a F50 would not like being on that flight.

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