keitherson wrote:

What exactly does a SAS brand run in/by Ireland and not connected to its long-haul network to provide feed.. even do? Why even bother with the SAS brand at all? This is like, Alitalia starting flights in Africa because... why not? Well, at least if Alitalia did that they would be profitable.

flying between Spain, Britain and the group’s northern European home market

hispanola wrote:

I'm surprised they're planning on using their own brand. Up until now I had expected them to establish something similar to what they did with Spanair.

Someone83 wrote:

hispanola wrote:

I'm surprised they're planning on using their own brand. Up until now I had expected them to establish something similar to what they did with Spanair.

We're not talking new routes here, just that these will be flying some of their existing routes, like some of their 19 daily flights LHR-Scandinavia

oldannyboy wrote:

I love how SAS are going Norwegian. There's nothing better than hiring cheap staff with fewer rights in order not to compromise those of those blessed Scandinavian employees. Next thing we'll know is SK is hiring Thai flight attendants for their long-haul network! Actually, they'd be much better than those oh-so-senior-and-sour FAs flying some of those routes.

Having lived in Sweden, I think lots of people underestimate how expensive and yet underperforming/unproductive Scandinavian labor is... and accordingly how underwhelming SAS can sometimes be. I really have to wonder where all the hype about Scandinavian quality and the "SAS brand" comes from... And, honestly, I have lived there, I love the Country, love the language, love the food, and drive a VOLVO...but...... but but but...

SAS has founded Scandinavian Airlines Ireland Limited

SAS is now in full swing with Ireland's establishment, with an Irish airline based in Spain and London.

On April 3, SAS's CEO Rickard Gustafson personally signed the founding documents for Scandinavian Airlines Ireland Limited

The employees fear that SAS will do as low cost airlines Norwegian and Ryanair, and on a large scale hire pilots and cabin crews from crew companies.

Now, Mikael Wångdahl, the chief of Scandinavian Airlines Ireland, confirms that Scandinavian Airlines Ireland Limited will hire pilots and cabin crew members from initially a crew company.

- How many will you rent?

"It depends on how time tables look, but between 270 and 300 flying personnel," says Mikael Wångdahl

Wångdahl says that no application for Irish flight permit has not yet been submitted.

"But we will do it within the next few weeks," he says.

Thus, the company may seem to keep the timetable, which is in the process of flying by November.

According to the Irish Times, you will use nine brand new Airbus A320neo aircraft, something Wångdahl confirms.

SAS has chosen Ireland because of a favorable regulatory regime for airlines, which both Norwegian and Ryanair already make use of.

The American Cabinet Association AFA's leader Sara Nelson is among those who fear the use of Ireland in a "convenience flagship model" where the headquarters are added to a country only because of favorable conditions.

downtown273 wrote:

I can understand how a LHR crew base could work. Their crews could do something like LHR-CPH-CDG-CPH-LHR or up to 5 sectors in rotations like LHR-ARN-AMS-ARN-CPH-LHR. I suppose that makes sense.

But SAS doesn't have enough frequencies in any Spanish airport as to be able to do same-day rotations. SAS's highest frequency airports in Spain are AGP and LPA IIRC - how would those crew bases work? LPA-CPH-LPA would already be close to the maximum that a crew would be able to operate on the same day. Unless they're planning on rotating them through the network for a few days (+ hotel expenses) and then head back to Spain?