msyflyer wrote:

Fun fact about the CUN flight that I've noticed. They actually are setting it up for connections. A quick search from HOUCUN/BNACUN/etc has the MSY flight arriving earlier than any of the others (including the nonstop). That could work out really well for those wanting to be in CUN earlier in the day!

jbs2886 wrote:

msyflyer wrote:

Fun fact about the CUN flight that I've noticed. They actually are setting it up for connections. A quick search from HOUCUN/BNACUN/etc has the MSY flight arriving earlier than any of the others (including the nonstop). That could work out really well for those wanting to be in CUN earlier in the day!

Its because it leaves so early that it is not set up for connections. The flight leaves at 8:05am, I don't think there are any flights other than from HOU and DAL that would arrive in time for a connection (especially if it requires a terminal change). I also doubt most passengers want to leave 2-3 hours earlier (before 6am) and connect through MSY to get to CUN 2 hours earlier.

msyflyer wrote:

I'm not surprised to see WN going after DL/UA, but I am surprised they are starting it before the new terminal because the sterile corridor isn't on terminal B. I assume they aren't planning on having connections for that flight? That is why, jbs2886, I was shocked to hear that announcement.

NolaMD88fan wrote:

NK is still flying out of C2 and C4. IAH is still closed, so the plane may just be sitting it out here until the airport reopens. The UAX planes also related to the IAH closure.

The WN adds are great to see, and it's nice to be considered a WN international station now. I'm not worried about less than daily service. If these routes perform well, then WN can easily increase service over time for any of these weekend only flights. Towing from C to B won't be an issue for WN, and as stated earlier all pax must clear customs, and then go back through TSA screening before boarding a domestic flight.

msyflyer wrote:

Personally, I would love to see SJU or SJD.

msyflyer wrote:

While I'm happy to see WN launching INTL, I really just want a new destination that isn't already served by another airline. Personally, I would love to see SJU or SJD.

LAX772LR wrote:

msyflyer wrote:

Personally, I would love to see SJU or SJD.

Wouldn't hold my breath for either.

SJU is in an unprecedented economic crisis right now, and there's (comparatively) hardly any Puerto Rican diaspora in Louisiana... meaning that such a flight (which passes right over their FLL gateway) would have to rely almost solely on NOLA origin, and not economic ties nor VFR. Probably not a proposition that any airline wants to take, at this point.

SJD only has yearround scheduled service to three destinations east of the Mississippi: ATL, CLT, and JFK.
Doubt anyone's going to bother with a medium-sized market, when easy cnnx are available via DFW/IAH/HOU/PHX/SAN/LAX/etc.

msycajun wrote:

LAX772LR wrote:

msyflyer wrote:

Personally, I would love to see SJU or SJD.

Wouldn't hold my breath for either.

SJU is in an unprecedented economic crisis right now, and there's (comparatively) hardly any Puerto Rican diaspora in Louisiana... meaning that such a flight (which passes right over their FLL gateway) would have to rely almost solely on NOLA origin, and not economic ties nor VFR. Probably not a proposition that any airline wants to take, at this point.

SJD only has yearround scheduled service to three destinations east of the Mississippi: ATL, CLT, and JFK.
Doubt anyone's going to bother with a medium-sized market, when easy cnnx are available via DFW/IAH/HOU/PHX/SAN/LAX/etc.

I've been hoping for SJU myself - have some friends there. We do get quite a number of students from PR at Tulane and Loyola FWIW. If G4 can make CVG, PIT, and RDU work from there, I think there is hope. No one seems to have numbers on O&D but it would be interesting to see.

I agree about SJD. I think MBJ, NAS, or PUJ would make more sense. WN should have no problem with those on a weekly basis, especially with the connections available. If they don't, I wouldn't be surprised to see NK and maybe even G4 flying internationally in the not-too-distant future.

DJSNOLA wrote:

A direct flight from Nola to Cabo with a stopover in Mexico City might make a lot of sense

LAX772LR wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

A direct flight from Nola to Cabo with a stopover in Mexico City might make a lot of sense

Not by geography it certainly wouldn't.

SJD-MEX-MSY versus SJD-IAH-MSY:

NolaMD88fan wrote:

DE had a better month in June with a load factor of 78.6%. Outbound MSY-FRA was 84% full, and inbound FRA-MSY was 73% full.
BA was 88% full outbound MSY-LHR, and 73% full inbound LHR-MSY. Interesting that both flights were much stronger on the outbound leg.

DJSNOLA wrote:

Whats everyones opinion about Pittsburg offering airside-access for non ticketed passengers starting yesterday? First airport to reintroduce this since 9/11. Is this something we think New Orleans should do? especially at the new terminal? I can see the pros and cons, but personally can see this taking off especially for those with young children traveling alone and potential business meetings.

http://www.futuretravelexperience.com/2017/08/pittsburgh-international-airport-to-re-introduce-public-airside-access/

msycajun wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

Whats everyones opinion about Pittsburg offering airside-access for non ticketed passengers starting yesterday? First airport to reintroduce this since 9/11. Is this something we think New Orleans should do? especially at the new terminal? I can see the pros and cons, but personally can see this taking off especially for those with young children traveling alone and potential business meetings.

http://www.futuretravelexperience.com/2017/08/pittsburgh-international-airport-to-re-introduce-public-airside-access/

Seems like PIT is doing it mostly to support the Airmall. While the new terminal will be much better in terms of amenities, that will mostly be food, not destination retail, so it would probably make less sense here except for maybe parents dropping off/picking up children. However at the rate passenger numbers are growing, the security area will probably be busier than originally planned, making it harder to implement something like this.

Jshank83 wrote:

msycajun wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

Whats everyones opinion about Pittsburg offering airside-access for non ticketed passengers starting yesterday? First airport to reintroduce this since 9/11. Is this something we think New Orleans should do? especially at the new terminal? I can see the pros and cons, but personally can see this taking off especially for those with young children traveling alone and potential business meetings.

http://www.futuretravelexperience.com/2017/08/pittsburgh-international-airport-to-re-introduce-public-airside-access/

Seems like PIT is doing it mostly to support the Airmall. While the new terminal will be much better in terms of amenities, that will mostly be food, not destination retail, so it would probably make less sense here except for maybe parents dropping off/picking up children. However at the rate passenger numbers are growing, the security area will probably be busier than originally planned, making it harder to implement something like this.

I have heard other airport directors at busier airports say they are not really considering it because of this reason. They don't want to backup security. That said, it would be nice if they could handle the extra people. If it is an airport with banks they could just set certain times when people can come through that would be slow times.

DJSNOLA wrote:

Jshank83 wrote:

msycajun wrote:

Seems like PIT is doing it mostly to support the Airmall. While the new terminal will be much better in terms of amenities, that will mostly be food, not destination retail, so it would probably make less sense here except for maybe parents dropping off/picking up children. However at the rate passenger numbers are growing, the security area will probably be busier than originally planned, making it harder to implement something like this.

I have heard other airport directors at busier airports say they are not really considering it because of this reason. They don't want to backup security. That said, it would be nice if they could handle the extra people. If it is an airport with banks they could just set certain times when people can come through that would be slow times.

it would seem to me that airports could just increase the screening capabilities. I was flying by myself at like 6-7 years old and that was made much easier by the fact my dad could see me off and then my uncle could be there at the gate waiting. Those arent really possibilities these days and thats a shame.

Jshank83 wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

Jshank83 wrote:

I have heard other airport directors at busier airports say they are not really considering it because of this reason. They don't want to backup security. That said, it would be nice if they could handle the extra people. If it is an airport with banks they could just set certain times when people can come through that would be slow times.

it would seem to me that airports could just increase the screening capabilities. I was flying by myself at like 6-7 years old and that was made much easier by the fact my dad could see me off and then my uncle could be there at the gate waiting. Those arent really possibilities these days and thats a shame.

That costs more money though. Who footing the bill just so extra people can walk to gates?

I'm pretty sure unaccompanied minors still get a person with them at the gate already.

DJSNOLA wrote:

Jshank83 wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

it would seem to me that airports could just increase the screening capabilities. I was flying by myself at like 6-7 years old and that was made much easier by the fact my dad could see me off and then my uncle could be there at the gate waiting. Those arent really possibilities these days and thats a shame.

That costs more money though. Who footing the bill just so extra people can walk to gates?

I'm pretty sure unaccompanied minors still get a person with them at the gate already.

do they ? i dont know how the process works? it was just alot easier for us back then i guess. I would think the assumption is that the airport would profit off the added traffic because of added concessions revenue. If someone is going to go to the airport and isnt flying its likely to wait with someone which could include food concessions during the wait?

Jshank83 wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

Jshank83 wrote:

That costs more money though. Who footing the bill just so extra people can walk to gates?

I'm pretty sure unaccompanied minors still get a person with them at the gate already.

do they ? i dont know how the process works? it was just alot easier for us back then i guess. I would think the assumption is that the airport would profit off the added traffic because of added concessions revenue. If someone is going to go to the airport and isnt flying its likely to wait with someone which could include food concessions during the wait?

It just depends if the extra workers/equipment being used is being offset by increased revenue. I have not clue if it would or not. I don't know if you are just dropping someone off or picking someone up if you would spend much money there. Maybe more on parking though.

NolaMD88fan wrote:

September air service update was posted. GLO is officially off the update along with the routes they flew. No surprise there since the remaining assets are being liquidated.

September is typically a very slow month, and that is evident in the drop in seats and daily departures from July and August. Overall, 141 daily departures and 19,789 departing seats on average for the month. http://www.flymsy.com/Images/Interior/a ... update.pdf

DJSNOLA wrote:

Hows September posted already?

LAX772LR wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

Hows September posted already?

...actually clicking on it, might clear up the confusion.

DJSNOLA wrote:

LAX772LR wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

Hows September posted already?

...actually clicking on it, might clear up the confusion.

so its an air service update published in September not actually september air service update

msycajun wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

LAX772LR wrote:

...actually clicking on it, might clear up the confusion.

so its an air service update published in September not actually september air service update

Air Service in that it is showing the number of scheduled seats according to the carriers. Doesn't account for cancellations and doesn't show how many people actually fly.

msycajun wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

LAX772LR wrote:

...actually clicking on it, might clear up the confusion.

so its an air service update published in September not actually september air service update

Air Service in that it is showing the number of scheduled seats according to the carriers. Doesn't account for cancellations and doesn't show how many people actually fly.

jbs2886 wrote:

msycajun wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

so its an air service update published in September not actually september air service update

Air Service in that it is showing the number of scheduled seats according to the carriers. Doesn't account for cancellations and doesn't show how many people actually fly.

It is the September Air Service Update. There aren't any words to parse. You must be thinking about September Air Traffic Statistics.

Edit: I really wish they would update the Alaska logo/typeface.

msyflyer wrote:

jbs2886 wrote:

msycajun wrote:

Air Service in that it is showing the number of scheduled seats according to the carriers. Doesn't account for cancellations and doesn't show how many people actually fly.

It is the September Air Service Update. There aren't any words to parse. You must be thinking about September Air Traffic Statistics.

Edit: I really wish they would update the Alaska logo/typeface.

I agree. If you look on the nonstop list, the SFO nonstop has Alaska logo and not Virgin. I'll be curious to see which plane arrives in 2 weeks.

DJSNOLA wrote:

msyflyer wrote:

jbs2886 wrote:

It is the September Air Service Update. There aren't any words to parse. You must be thinking about September Air Traffic Statistics.

Edit: I really wish they would update the Alaska logo/typeface.

I agree. If you look on the nonstop list, the SFO nonstop has Alaska logo and not Virgin. I'll be curious to see which plane arrives in 2 weeks.

Does it really matter what they show since its really technically Alaska either way?

jbs2886 wrote:

DJSNOLA wrote:

msyflyer wrote:

I agree. If you look on the nonstop list, the SFO nonstop has Alaska logo and not Virgin. I'll be curious to see which plane arrives in 2 weeks.

Does it really matter what they show since its really technically Alaska either way?

Actually, its technically not Alaska. If Virgin operates it, it will be on a Virgin plane that is operating under a Virgin certificate. Once the certificates are merged, it will be Alaska. Alaska has been pretty unclear which airline is actually operating MSY-SFO, I tend to think it will be Virgin, but it may be Alaska - I guess we will see.

SunsetLimited wrote:

PVD was always meant to be seasonal.
DEN is being upgauged to A321 for the summer.

Speaking of NK, they are rumored to be adding three additional nonstop markets (in addition to the four recently announced) for a March or April start.

msyflyer wrote:

SunsetLimited wrote:

PVD was always meant to be seasonal.
DEN is being upgauged to A321 for the summer.

Speaking of NK, they are rumored to be adding three additional nonstop markets (in addition to the four recently announced) for a March or April start.

How many nonstop cities would that give NK from MSY? 10ish?

msycajun wrote:

msyflyer wrote:

SunsetLimited wrote:

PVD was always meant to be seasonal.
DEN is being upgauged to A321 for the summer.

Speaking of NK, they are rumored to be adding three additional nonstop markets (in addition to the four recently announced) for a March or April start.

How many nonstop cities would that give NK from MSY? 10ish?

They're at 14 this fall - 17 with three new cities.

NolaMD88fan wrote:

NK is fine as long as you go in fully knowing what you will be charged for, and that the seat pitch is not going to be comfortable. For a longer flight, I'd try to move up to the Big Front Seat.