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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:35 pm

msycajun wrote:
It's hard to tell with that sort of thing, but most people don't go around making up stuff like that with specific numbers. I wonder if the time frame is more for the new terminal. Will they have room to add many more flights with the current gates? They already use some C gates during busy periods.


I agree. It did seem pretty specific. My understanding was that the flights would start in April, although it would seem that word would have come out by now so seats could be filled. I just looked on the DL website and didn't see any nonstops to SAN or BOS in May, so I really don't know what to make of the conversation.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:32 pm

Some interesting things in that competition plan update. I guess it's no surprise that UA is down to 4 preferential use gates and that would give DL plenty of space to expand. It also says that AC is considering moving to concourse C, which seems odd, but would also give more room on D.

I would guess an April announcement/on sale date if anything. We'd know it if anything were starting that soon.

Now that I think about it, apart from hub/focus cities like SEA, BOS, RDU, MEX, and CVG, there are a lot of small-midsize markets that DL has some point to point flights from. PIT, BDL, IND, CMH, and MKE come to mind and DL could serve these with a 70 seater. JAX could be a good add too - right now all of that traffic goes far out of the way to connect and DL could command a premium for a nonstop and probably connect some people onto LAX as well.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:40 pm

Got the year end 2016 load factors for all of the domestic routes calculated, and the first 9 months load factors for international routes calculated. In December, WN's MSY-LAX route had the highest load factor at 92.1%, and GLO's MSY-HSV route had the lowest load factor at 32.4%. The overall December load factor for domestic routes was 78.7%.

The highest domestic route load factor for all of 2016, was WN's MSY-MDW route at 92.7%, and the lowest domestic load factor for the year was GLO'S MSY-HSV at 44.2%. (Note: I did not include F9's MSY-ATL route since it only flew a few days in Jan 2016, and I did not include any routes with missing data which excludes most GLO flights.) I only used routes with complete data for a true apples to apples comparison. The overall domestic load factor for 2016 was 81.4%.

In September, CM MSY-PTY had a load factor of 66.4%, and AC MSY-YYZ had a load factor of 84.6%. Not bad for one of the slowest months of the year at MSY.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:22 am

msycajun wrote:
JAX could be a good add too - right now all of that traffic goes far out of the way to connect and DL could command a premium for a nonstop and probably connect some people onto LAX as well.

MSY-JAX doesn't appear to have the sustainable market strength that it want did... both WN and G4 have let it go.
Perhaps that's a result of not having DAL flow-traffic fortifying it?
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:24 am

I hope Delta comes around and adds more MSP flights.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:20 am

Delta is selling MSY-LHR for most of the year, excluding the summer, for $500 roundtrip, sometimes even below 500. Looks like they're trying to run BA out of town. I don't think I've ever seen such a low fare to Europe from MSY, even including the crazy 2-3 stop 23 hour layover type routings.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:59 am

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Looks like they're trying to run BA out of town.

Not really. They're offering the same or lower in LAX, STL, ORD, RDU, PHX, PHL, CLT, AUS, etc.

http://www.theflightdeal.com/2017/03/23 ... all-taxes/

In fact, MSY is one of the highest fares in their sale. Some of these are showing $381!
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:54 am

Some interesting stats from the latest visitor survey released by UNO and the CVB. http://www.bizneworleans.com/March-2017 ... g-In-2016/

Visitor breakdown by type in 2016...

Leisure//VFR = 76.7%
Convention/Corporate Meeting = 13.3%
General Business = 10.0%

Income of more than $200,000 = 11.2%
Income of $100,000 - $149,999 = 22.5%

Age 50-64 = 33.0%
Age 35-49 = 28.0%
Age 25-34 = 17.8%
Age 65+ = 15.6%

Number of visitors arriving by air = 44.7% or 4.67 million. That means 6.47 million pax were locals at the airport last year.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:10 pm

Well folks, tommorow is a big day for MSY and the city of New Orleans. Where's everybody going to be to witness the arrival of the BA 787?
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:59 pm

Alas, I'll be working, but I do plan on taking some pics of it flying in on Wednesday when I'm off work. I know LAX772LR will be on the inaugural, so looking forward to those pics. SunsetLimited will get some good pics too.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:53 am

BA just announced they are going from 4 to 5 days a week effective 10/30/17.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:01 am

I got to see it land (well, what you can see at night). Sat on a bench and watched the crowd out of FIS. Not quite as many as the preview flight, but still a good crowd.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:53 am

Great news that the flight is doing well enough to increase frequency to 5x weekly so early on.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:10 am

Looks like the Choice Aire service to SAP is done. Another fly by night operation in my opinion. Not really shocking. It would be great if NK tried the route with a 3x weekly service. I think it would do quite well given the large Honduran population here. There are many people that are quite unhappy with Choice Aire cancelling service and not refunding pax. In many ways, I'm sure CM is okay with this occurring. There were several Hondurans on the flight we took back in November connecting through PTY to MSY.

http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/ ... 8b7f9.html

It also looks like the Vacation Express has decided to not start the FPO service after all. This is not only a MSY thing, but is true for all airports served by Vacation Express. Guess they couldn't get something worked out with FPO. They are only flying to CUN, PUJ, and MBJ nationwide.

With what looks like the end of SAP and non-start of FPO, that puts MSY at 6 international destinations...LHR, FRA, YYZ, PUJ, CUN, and PTY. I still think we'll see MEX added sooner rather than later, and hopefully SAP will return from a real network carrier.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:01 pm

Any word on how GLO are doing? What about the possibility of them operating markets like BHM, JAX or OKC?
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:43 am

Financially, no clue as to how they are doing. Loads have been slowly inching up...they are averaging in the mid 40% range as last Fall. If there are corporate contracts involved for businesses flying between MEM, SHV, LIT, and HSV that may not matter as much. Here's to hoping they are successful and grow a nice regional operation in the South and Southeast.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:49 pm

I'm surprised they still haven't tried BHM. JAX is probably at the edge of what would work in a Saab. I wonder if they'd try it on a jet. CFM already has some CR2s in the fleet, probably wouldn't be expensive to acquire one. OKC would definitely need a jet.

I'd like to see them start some direct/one stop routings. Could start with something like SHV-MSY-VPS, which would help with loads and make the MSY-VPS flight viable. Eventually something like JAX-MSY-SHV would help to deepen the network without too much expansion. That's a decent amount of revenue available with not much extra expense. Long-term, I think that and codesharing are needed to remain viable.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:08 pm

Any update on the potential Delta announcement? That would a big boost in the arm for the airport if it happens.
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:53 pm

SunsetLimited wrote:
Any update on the potential Delta announcement? That would a big boost in the arm for the airport if it happens.


Can you enlighten me on which potential announcement you are referring to?
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:57 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
SunsetLimited wrote:
Any update on the potential Delta announcement? That would a big boost in the arm for the airport if it happens.


Can you enlighten me on which potential announcement you are referring to?


There was some discussion earlier on this thread:
http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1356677#p19421141
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:28 am

Haven't heard anything. The person appeared reliable, but perhaps not
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:03 am

I still cannot believe CVG-MSY got the wack, according to my timetable records, it was still daily on a CRJ-900 when it was ended in 2015. At least they could have done 4-5x/week on a CRJ-700. I very much expect CVG-MSY to be relaunched with a CRJ-700/900 at some point. I have seen rumors for this announcement since late last year (the rumor was a complete reversal of the March 2015 cuts, which includes CVG-MSN/GRR/PIT/RIC/MSY/JAX/SAN/PHX, AUS/LHR have been mentioned as well, though they were cut earlier). While this is probably a bit more flights that DL would consider adding back, I think adding 2 or 3 would be more reasonable for competition against WN. While I have not heard anything about the DL expansion at MSY outside Airliners.net, it seems in line with the recent movements at BOS/CVG/RDU/AUS/MIA/DCA. DL has to have the most point-to-point routes of any US3 airline, and I think it is an interesting strategy that they are using more and more.

Also, DL is bringing back more CRJ-200's previously parked to pick up some flying, not sure how many exactly, but some of these smaller routes should be doable. My understanding is that most will be used to increase frequencies, possibly this could free up some CRJ-700/900's, but I would love to see some older routes resumed. I know at CVG at least, besides CVG-MSN which cited low pax loads, most of the cuts were cited as a result of "pilot shortages", it was not coincidence that G4 added CVG-MSY/JAX less than a month after DL cut them. RDU/CVG-MSY seem like the most likely adds to me.
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:55 pm

Slight correction, DL operated CVG-MSY on a CRJ-900 through 2014 summer before dropping it down to a CRJ-200, then cut it at the end of the 2015 winter.
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:12 pm

cvgComair wrote:
Slight correction, DL operated CVG-MSY on a CRJ-900 through 2014 summer before dropping it down to a CRJ-200, then cut it at the end of the 2015 winter.


It's always sad to see that a huge carrier with a hub on one end and a large frequent flier base on the other can't make 70 seats work, but G4 can come in and run 450+ seats each way a week (going 3 weekly this fall). Same with CLE, UA was running a single 50 seater at the end of the hub days, and this summer NK will have a daily 319 on the route.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:32 am

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It's always sad to see that a huge carrier with a hub on one end

IINM, DL was down to less than 90 daily flights at CVG by then, with many of them timed more for O&D than for cnnx.
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:24 am

LAX772LR wrote:
msycajun wrote:
It's always sad to see that a huge carrier with a hub on one end

IINM, DL was down to less than 90 daily flights at CVG by then, with many of them timed more for O&D than for cnnx.


DL went from 110 to 80 daily flights in March 2015 when it cut CVG-MSY, it was one of 8 destinations cut in the announcement. While it was not yet down to 90 flights, it was and still is mostly O&D, as you said (10% currently connect at CVG). However, even though DL will operate only 85 daily flights this summer, DL's passengers numbers were up 6% compared to 2015 (when they operated nearly more 20 flights a day), and another 6% increase is planned this year. Now that G4/F9 have grown leisure markets from CVG (routes like CVG-JAX/AUS/MSY/SAN had significant amounts of connecting passengers due to high fares when they operated under DL), as msycajun said, G4 is operating 450 seats per week on CVG-MSY, the route has grown immensely, the next 12-18 months will show how committed DL is to CVG long-term. They could successfully operate routes like CVG-MSY with the current demand, it remains to be seem wether they will actually do it. I am cautiously optimistic, but it will be interesting to see if anything such as reduced landing fees with Amazon, financial incentives by the airport, and increased cargo opportunities with Amazon will be enough to restore some limited service with DL.

Does anyone know where these DL MSY expansion rumors originated? I would love to see it, but I do wonder what the economic viability would be, especially with WN entering MSY-IND/PIT/RDU/CMH and NK adding MSY-CLE. Obviously, CVG is the one left out of these routes adds and WN/NK are highly unlikely to add MSY-CVG in the near-term. I would greatly prefer DL over F9, but they seem like a possible carrier on the route as well. At least I can hope :-).
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:09 pm

cvgComair wrote:

Does anyone know where these DL MSY expansion rumors originated? I would love to see it, but I do wonder what the economic viability would be, especially with WN entering MSY-IND/PIT/RDU/CMH and NK adding MSY-CLE. Obviously, CVG is the one left out of these routes adds and WN/NK are highly unlikely to add MSY-CVG in the near-term. I would greatly prefer DL over F9, but they seem like a possible carrier on the route as well. At least I can hope :-).


I posted the rumor. I met someone who was visiting Nola and said they were here working on temporary assignment for Delta for marketing new routes that were going to be launched (or announced, I guess) in April. The person appeared to me to know enough about the DL network, gaps in Nola coverage for it, FF tiers and about new service from other carriers coming to the airport to appear credible, but it is quite possible that I either mis-understood the timing or that the information wasn't accurate.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:46 pm

Well fortunately we still have a while to go in April. Remember the BA announcement was delayed a few weeks.

It would make sense for DL to be sending someone to address the demands of major corporate customers. There was a lot of teamwork involved in getting CM, DE, and BA, and I'm sure DL doesn't want to be left out. I have a feeling MEX is the in-demand route of the moment since ATL is such an out of the way option to get to Latin America. The region is working to build up international business, especially given the historical connections. I think DL also has a nice opening to add BOS since B6 is going down to 1 daily for part of the year.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:09 pm

April Service Update Posted:

http://www.flymsy.com/Images/Interior/air_service/air_service_update_april_2017.pdf

Assuming the 21343 daily departing seats figure is accurate and an 80% load factor, should surpass 1 million total passengers in April.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:56 pm

msycajun wrote:
Well fortunately we still have a while to go in April. Remember the BA announcement was delayed a few weeks.

It would make sense for DL to be sending someone to address the demands of major corporate customers. There was a lot of teamwork involved in getting CM, DE, and BA, and I'm sure DL doesn't want to be left out. I have a feeling MEX is the in-demand route of the moment since ATL is such an out of the way option to get to Latin America. The region is working to build up international business, especially given the historical connections. I think DL also has a nice opening to add BOS since B6 is going down to 1 daily for part of the year.


I've been thinking that SEA would be a strong addition by DL given the severing of ties with Alaska, both for Seattle bound traffic and for Alaska bound oil patch traffic. If the JV with AM is approved, MEX would make a lot of sense. I've never really thought of MSY as a corporate market, but I'm sure there is some coordination with the convention and visitor's bureau to make sure appropriate cities are covered. And, although it might not provide very many seats, GE does have a tech center in downtown Nola now--and is moving their HQ to Boston....
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:14 pm

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I've been thinking that SEA would be a strong addition by DL given the severing of ties with Alaska, both for Seattle bound traffic and for Alaska bound oil patch traffic. If the JV with AM is approved, MEX would make a lot of sense. I've never really thought of MSY as a corporate market, but I'm sure there is some coordination with the convention and visitor's bureau to make sure appropriate cities are covered. And, although it might not provide very many seats, GE does have a tech center in downtown Nola now--and is moving their HQ to Boston....


I think SEA is just a matter of time for DL.

The corporate scene is maybe not as big as it once was, but still substantial and growing. There's no way BA and CM would be here on just tourist traffic. Companies like Pan-American Life Insurance are driving Latin American growth. Probably the most overlooked is the shipping industry (both cargo and cruise), which flies crew and management all over the world. And of course, there are still large offices for Shell, Chevron, and many other oil firms. I also think things like IBM in Baton Rouge and Airbus in Mobile help to drive traffic (incidentally BA provides a great connection to HAM). MSY also has probably more legal and financial business than most cities its size.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:52 pm

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April Service Update Posted

They've taken down SAP, and never added FPO.... so that's that, apparently, for those services. :(
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:57 am

Hopefully, we'll see another carrier try SAP. When the Choice Aire service was running properly, it was quite popular with the Honduran population here. In terms of FPO, Vacation Express cancelled all FPO service for every airport they serve in the US. I'm guessing they couldn't get some type of logistical issue worked out in time.

Looks like the new terminal will have Amadeus implement CUTE check-in and gates at the new terminal. This will definitely help solve some logisitical issues we've been worrying about with the new terminal in terms of gate usage. http://www.flymsy.com/Files/Newsletter/ ... AL4417.pdf
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:15 am

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Hopefully, we'll see another carrier try SAP. When the Choice Aire service was running properly, it was quite popular with the Honduran population here.

I was thinking that regardless as to how long it stayed around, it *had* to have piqued a (more mainstream) carrier's interest in reinstating the nonstop on a scheduled basis.

TACA/Avianca was at MSY for over 60yrs, I find it hard to believe that they still haven't ventured back in some capacity. But hey, wouldn't be opposed to Spirit making a go of it. They'd probably do gangbusters.
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:20 am

NolaMD88fan wrote:
Looks like the new terminal will have Amadeus implement CUTE check-in and gates at the new terminal. This will definitely help solve some logisitical issues we've been worrying about with the new terminal in terms of gate usage.

I especially like this quote, in that article:

"MSY has great plans to grow its international presence" :thumbsup:

Only wish I knew specifically what they were referring to!
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:56 pm

I'm a big fan of their EASE system. Combined with digital signage and airport standard gate design, it allows 100% complete flexibility with gate, ticketing and baggage operations from a passenger point of view. It's great at smaller stations that don't have a lot of airline specific services, like local maintenance or high end passenger services, as the airlines don't tend to incur other logistical expenses with moving gates around as well. The local contract ground services groups are already using generic equipment and branding so it doesn't become a problem there either. It reduces setup costs for new market entrants and costs for expanding and reducing services while also making it easier for airlines to eliminate service at will. The only gates that have any major reason to be different are international arrival gates, and that's largely a customs issue.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:45 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
Hopefully, we'll see another carrier try SAP. When the Choice Aire service was running properly, it was quite popular with the Honduran population here. In terms of FPO, Vacation Express cancelled all FPO service for every airport they serve in the US. I'm guessing they couldn't get some type of logistical issue worked out in time.

Looks like the new terminal will have Amadeus implement CUTE check-in and gates at the new terminal. This will definitely help solve some logisitical issues we've been worrying about with the new terminal in terms of gate usage. http://www.flymsy.com/Files/Newsletter/ ... AL4417.pdf



I dont understand why Vacation Express wanted to go to to Freeport to begin with. Its in im opinion the least attractive of all the islands in the Bahamas. Nassau made much more sense. Since they canceled the destination it seems my hunch was right.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:44 am

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I dont understand why Vacation Express wanted to go to to Freeport to begin with.

Though at least from MSY, it wouldn't have been a first.

Laker operated MSY-FPO back in the day, up until 2001.
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:04 pm

Selections for North Terminal retail to be narrowed to two choices tomorrow:
http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2017/04/armstrong_airport_retail.html#incart_river_home_pop
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:47 am

I like that the airport is going with two concessionaires. Allows for a larger variety of choices in each concourse, and also provides some competition in terms of customer satisfaction. We'll see who gets the nod to serve the airport tomorrow.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:30 am

NolaMD88fan wrote:
I like that the airport is going with two concessionaires. Allows for a larger variety of choices in each concourse, and also provides some competition in terms of customer satisfaction. We'll see who gets the nod to serve the airport tomorrow.


Still no indication how the third concourse will be laid out when it comes to retail and restaurants
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:08 am

DJSNOLA wrote:
NolaMD88fan wrote:
I like that the airport is going with two concessionaires. Allows for a larger variety of choices in each concourse, and also provides some competition in terms of customer satisfaction. We'll see who gets the nod to serve the airport tomorrow.


Still no indication how the third concourse will be laid out when it comes to retail and restaurants


That is definitely a mystery.

Looks like Paradies Lagardere and Pacific Gateway were the winners of the selection process.

http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/ ... cb332.html
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:23 am

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Still no indication how the third concourse will be laid out when it comes to retail and restaurants

Still no indication of how the third concourse will be laid out at all, per se.

Some have claimed to see it as a straight line, causing the entire terminal to look like a horizontal "F"

Makes sense, though I'm surprised that it's been 4months since it was announced/confirmed, but no official rendering of what it's proposed to look like.
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:06 pm

Piles are currently being driven for the additional concourse. Two rigs are on site. According to the last update, design work would be wrapping up by the end of this month.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:18 pm

I haven't heard about any changes to the design since I last saw it. As for retail, there won't be a whole lot of space for much more than carts, tiny accessory shops, and maybe a snack stand.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:15 pm

LightningZ71 wrote:
I haven't heard about any changes to the design since I last saw it. As for retail, there won't be a whole lot of space for much more than carts, tiny accessory shops, and maybe a snack stand.


So if its only five gates is this terminal meant for widebody aircraft?
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:22 pm

Interesting piece (with pictures!): When New Orleans' airport was the biggest in the country:
http://www.nola.com/300/2017/04/louis_armstrong_international.html#incart_2box
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:56 pm

DJSNOLA wrote:
LightningZ71 wrote:
I haven't heard about any changes to the design since I last saw it. As for retail, there won't be a whole lot of space for much more than carts, tiny accessory shops, and maybe a snack stand.


So if its only five gates is this terminal meant for widebody aircraft?


Yes. This will be the international gate area, so it will have space for widebody aircraft.
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:08 pm

DJSNOLA wrote:
So if its only five gates is this terminal meant for widebody aircraft?

That's WHY it's only 5 gates.

It was originally meant for 6, but later the gates were spaced out.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
 
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Re: The MSY Thread - Part 6

Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:31 pm

NolaMD88fan wrote:
Yes. This will be the international gate area, so it will have space for widebody aircraft.

I still wonder if it's possible that all of A, plus the two western gates in B, could have FIS capability simultaneously.

Assuming that the CBP processing area remains in similar positioning, no reason that it can't.
That way, MSY would gain an int'l gate, as opposed to lose one from the current number.
I myself, suspect a more prosaic motive... ~Thranduil
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