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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:03 pm

Mesa CR9 N248LR is off to ROW for paint.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:14 pm

3BC is en route from TUL back to GUS.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:31 am

Another 738 ferried to the paint shop

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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:50 pm

Another 738 to ARA for new paint

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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:52 pm

Looks like some 738's are getting red winglet tips for visibility. Anyone have more info? Will this eventually be fleet wide?

No photos in the database of this, but a google search returned this one: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8534273
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:00 pm

f18raider wrote:
Looks like some 738's are getting red winglet tips for visibility. Anyone have more info? Will this eventually be fleet wide?

No photos in the database of this, but a google search returned this one: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8534273


Okay, so it's not just me then! I've seen at least 3x 738s with red tipped winglets! D: Someone please explain.
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:03 am

Boeing778X wrote:
f18raider wrote:
Looks like some 738's are getting red winglet tips for visibility. Anyone have more info? Will this eventually be fleet wide?

No photos in the database of this, but a google search returned this one: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8534273


Okay, so it's not just me then! I've seen at least 3x 738s with red tipped winglets! D: Someone please explain.


I wish they'd paint the whole tail on the winglet. Wouldn't that be a sight to see.

On the topic of winglets, are there any plans to install scimitars?
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:23 am

I saw a 32B with red tips on the sharklets recently.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:46 am

Boeing778X wrote:
f18raider wrote:
Looks like some 738's are getting red winglet tips for visibility. Anyone have more info? Will this eventually be fleet wide?

No photos in the database of this, but a google search returned this one: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8534273


Okay, so it's not just me then! I've seen at least 3x 738s with red tipped winglets! D: Someone please explain.


Its to increase visibility during ground operations. Personally I find the stripe to be painted in an inconvenient place as I feel that it is too high for most wing walkers to notice, it would do much better to be at the base of the winglet.

I believe all of the 738s and 32Bs will receive the red stripe but not the 757s, 767s or regional A/C. I'm not sure if the MAX & NEO will have them.
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:59 am

KLMatSJC wrote:
Boeing778X wrote:
f18raider wrote:
Looks like some 738's are getting red winglet tips for visibility. Anyone have more info? Will this eventually be fleet wide?

No photos in the database of this, but a google search returned this one: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8534273


Okay, so it's not just me then! I've seen at least 3x 738s with red tipped winglets! D: Someone please explain.


I wish they'd paint the whole tail on the winglet. Wouldn't that be a sight to see.

On the topic of winglets, are there any plans to install scimitars?


Unfortunately no.

No plans for any scimitars on our 737s, which is a poor decision IMO, given the overall size of the fleet.
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Re: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 13

Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:28 am

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ckfred wrote:
Considering that AA just got US and AA pilots onto the same bid system, and there are still other work groups that need to be merged in terms of computer systems, finding a new livery is low on the priority list. But, considering that the DL scheme that was introduced in 1997 only lasted a few years, before the wavy gravy livery was introduced, and that wavy gravy only lasted less than 10 years, we could very well see a new livery in about 4 to 7 years.


Absolutely not! There is a zero percent chance of that happening! The new AA livery is good for 30+ years, if the previous livery is any indicator!


Look at Air France. They have kept the same livery for over 30 years. They introduced their bar code scheme in the late 70s and has kept it since then, only a slight modification to the bar code scheme was applied a few years ago.

Lufthansa hasn't changed in now 25 years.

KLM has kept its blue top for now over 40 years but has modified its cheatline no less than twice, from a white and thick dark blue cheatline, to a thinner dark blue cheatline, and now are painting their planes with a curved thin cheatline.

Speaking of Delta, it will soon be ten years that they introduced their latest corporate livery.

Only time will tell when American will introduce a new corporate livery. I don't think they are even thinking about that now, because they still have in mind finishing repainting the last few US Airways planes as well as the last planes in the old silver AA livery. If airlines change livery too often, people won't appreciate anymore. I know it has been repeatedly said that the MD-80s won't be repainted but when I read the latest update on American's fleet plan in Wikipedia, there are rumors that the MD-80 final retirement has been postponed to summer of 2018 and now postponed even further to early 2019, as the original plan was end of 2017. So, although the chances are slim, it is not impossible that at least one MD-80 will get the current scheme.


Pepsi Cola will change it's logo long before American changes theirs.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Mon May 01, 2017 12:15 am

2 more 738s off to the paint shop this past week

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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Tue May 02, 2017 2:41 am

Another 738 off for new paint livery

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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Wed May 03, 2017 1:33 am

Another 738 ferried to the paint shop

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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Thu May 04, 2017 1:46 am

the latest 738 to be repainted is being ferried tonight from ORD-GUS

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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Fri May 05, 2017 6:25 pm

another 738 to the paint shop

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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Fri May 05, 2017 9:13 pm

Mesa CR9 N243LR just ferried PHX to ROW for paint.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Sat May 06, 2017 6:36 pm

Mesa CR9 N245LR is en route from PHX to ROW for new livery.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Sat May 06, 2017 10:01 pm

How many 737's are out at the same time to get the new livery? How can AA afford to have so many out of service?
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Sun May 07, 2017 12:17 am

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How many 737's are out at the same time to get the new livery? How can AA afford to have so many out of service?


I am sure with the S80's continuing to flying instead of tripping to retirement.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Sun May 07, 2017 3:02 am

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Last 787-8 delivery! AA has 20x now :)


Shame they all have the backwards/forwards seats, unlike the much nicer 789s.
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Tue May 09, 2017 1:41 am

avi8 wrote:
How many 737's are out at the same time to get the new livery? How can AA afford to have so many out of service?


Usually only about 4 are out of service while getting painted.


Brand new 738 delivered today

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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Thu May 11, 2017 10:21 pm

Another 738 off to get new paint
Ferried from ORD to GUS today

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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Sun May 14, 2017 5:17 pm

Another 738 to the paint shop

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This is the Astro Jet Theme aircraft.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Sun May 14, 2017 5:37 pm

How many jets sport the OneWorld scheme? Are any of the new Airbuses scheduled to get it?
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Mon May 15, 2017 12:26 am

I wonder if they'll cover the bare metal with the new paint but keep the Astro Jet Theme?
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Mon May 15, 2017 12:44 am

As best I can tell here is the OneWorld count:
3 x 738; 3FP, 3FR, 3KE
2 x 772; 7AY, 7BE
1 x 752; 5FN
1 x 763; 343
Not sure if any 321s will be delivered in OneWorld livery.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Mon May 15, 2017 6:10 am

miaami wrote:
Another 738 to the paint shop

3CF
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This is the Astro Jet Theme aircraft.


Rode on her just a few weeks ago! Hopefully she looks fresh!
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Fri May 19, 2017 6:02 pm

Mesa CR9 N246LR is off to ROW for new livery!
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Fri May 19, 2017 8:08 pm

Aaprt from the S80's , how many mainline AA jets are left in the clAAsic livery?
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Fri May 19, 2017 9:43 pm

I'm showing 1 x 763, 7 x 752 and 34 x 738 for a total of 42 mainline in clAAsic livery. My understanding is the 763 and 752s will remain in clAAsic livery until retired.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Fri May 19, 2017 10:34 pm

jgcotter wrote:
I'm showing 1 x 763, 7 x 752 and 34 x 738 for a total of 42 mainline in clAAsic livery. My understanding is the 763 and 752s will remain in clAAsic livery until retired.


That's correct. All AA classic livery aircraft besides the S80s will be retired by the end of this year.

S80s are retired by next summer.
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Tue May 23, 2017 2:47 am

OK, they did paint over the Astro Jet (3CF) with the new livery... but the word from the company is that 3JP (newer) will be the next Astro Jet.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Tue May 23, 2017 6:04 am

miaami wrote:


Just flew that one on the 7th. Was happy to get a bare metal 737 for likely the last time. Didn't see many shiny ones left in DFW a week later.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Tue May 23, 2017 6:23 am

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miaami wrote:


Just flew that one on the 7th. Was happy to get a bare metal 737 for likely the last time. Didn't see many shiny ones left in DFW a week later.


I was on N907NN (3JS) day before last. She's still in the clAAssic livery.

There's something special about a Bare Metal AA 738 with the Sky Interior ;)

It will be interesting to see the new Astrojet and any subsequent retro liveries. Will they be painted on grey?
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Tue May 23, 2017 2:56 pm

Another 738 ferried to the paint shop

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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Tue May 23, 2017 5:02 pm

A brand new 738 delivery today

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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Thu May 25, 2017 8:04 pm

Mesa CR9 N329MS is in ROW right now for new livery.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Thu May 25, 2017 10:57 pm

738 3JP is en route from TUL to ARA to become the next AstroJet according to the company.
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Thu May 25, 2017 11:07 pm

738 3JR is en route from ORD to GUS for new livery.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Fri May 26, 2017 4:04 pm

Does anyone have an idea of how many regional aircraft are left to be painted? How about how many regional aircraft still have US Air paint?
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:08 pm

Mesa CR9 N326MS ferried PHX to ROW yesterday for new livery, replacing N329MS and N246LR which returned from ROW to PHX with new livery. This leaves only Mesa N914FJ in the US livery for the CR9 fleet.
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:20 pm

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Does anyone have an idea of how many regional aircraft are left to be painted? How about how many regional aircraft still have US Air paint?

This site will give you the answers you seek:

https://sites.google.com/site/newamericanfleet

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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:14 pm

Further updates based on new livery photographs removes some listed items so that these remain in US livery: [it is possible that even some of these have recently been repainted].

Republic - E175 [4 only]
N101HQ
N118HQ
N120HQ
N124HQ

Air Wisconsin - CRJ200 [5 only]
N406AW
N409AW
N410AW
N422AW
N443AW

Mesa - CRJ900 [3 only].
N914FJ
N249LR
N326MS

The Dash8 [US livery] and Skywest/Expressjet other CRJ200 [old AA Eagle or US] fleets are not considered due to expected retirement.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:08 pm

A friend of mine is a 738 Captain. He has complained about the gray/silver paint only on the winglets, since the day the first 738 appeared in the new livery.

His argument is that the split winglet on the 738 MAX has to have some color. Since the winglet drops below the wing, like the scimitar winglet, he thinks that ground vehicles can and will run into them, absent a contrasting color.

I'm sure that the red at the top of the winglet makes the wigntip more visible from the cockpit, but I'm not sure how easy it would be for someone driving a catering truck or tug pulling a string of baggage carts.

I bet that painting the tail stripes would be rather expensive. But, the logo would probably work well.
 
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Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:44 pm

    jgcotter wrote:
    OK, they did paint over the Astro Jet (3CF) with the new livery... but the word from the company is that 3JP (newer) will be the next Astro Jet.


    Well, that almost guarantees the new Astrojet will have a "haze gray" base coat :(
     
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    Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

    Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:32 am

    A new A321 delivery on 05/26/17

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    Re: New AA painted aircraft - 2017

    Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:55 am

    qfatwa wrote:
    Mesa - CRJ900 [3 only].
    N914FJ
    N249LR
    N326MS


    I believe there is one more out there in the LUS livery (part of me wants to say it is 244LR but I seem to remember that one getting painted) as we had two on the ground at the same time, one of which was 326 and the other was a NextGen as well.
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    Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:30 pm

    A brand new 787-9 delivery today

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