New AA painted aircraft - 2017

demkid · Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:38 pm

jgcotter wrote:
demkid wrote:
jgcotter wrote:

6 remaining 738s, 1x 752 and 46x S80 in legacy livery.

Fleet site lists 6 remaining 738x but 904AN is one of them (already painted.) So are there 5 left? 945AN, 958AN, 979AN, 864NN, 921NN?

I show N945AN, N958AN, N979AN, N856NN, N864NN and N921NN (Heritage livery?) yet to be painted, one of which should ferry tonight. N945AN arrives at ORD this evening and should ferry to GUS to swap out with N905AN.

N856NN is painted: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8668698

jgcotter · Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:50 pm

demkid wrote:
jgcotter wrote:
demkid wrote:

Fleet site lists 6 remaining 738x but 904AN is one of them (already painted.) So are there 5 left? 945AN, 958AN, 979AN, 864NN, 921NN?

I show N945AN, N958AN, N979AN, N856NN, N864NN and N921NN (Heritage livery?) yet to be painted, one of which should ferry tonight. N945AN arrives at ORD this evening and should ferry to GUS to swap out with N905AN.

N856NN is painted: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8668698

Thanks!

American 767 · Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:00 pm

So that leaves out at this point only 4 of them remaining in the old livery: N958AN, N979AN, N864NN and N921NN. Will N905NN remain in the Astrojet livery? Or has it been repainted already? It would be nice if they keep two 737s not to be painted in the current livery: one in Astrojet and the other one in the last silver livery (the one that lasted until 2013). It would also be nice if they keep N915NN, N916NN and N917NN in their TWA, Reno Air and Air Cal retro liveries respectively. Please don't hesitate to correct me if I am wrong somewhere.

jgcotter · Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:04 am

American 767 wrote:
So that leaves out at this point only 4 of them remaining in the old livery: N958AN, N979AN, N864NN and N921NN. Will N905NN remain in the Astrojet livery? Or has it been repainted already? It would be nice if they keep two 737s not to be painted in the current livery: one in Astrojet and the other one in the last silver livery (the one that lasted until 2013). It would also be nice if they keep N915NN, N916NN and N917NN in their TWA, Reno Air and Air Cal retro liveries respectively. Please don't hesitate to correct me if I am wrong somewhere.

That’s my understanding; one clAAsic, one Astrojet, N905NN, and the three retro or heritage liveries will remain for a total of five.

119297 · Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:50 pm

Another 738 being sent to GUS for new paint

N945AN / 3BY
Schedule to ferry from ORD to GUS as AA 9644 today

FSDan · Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:29 pm

jgcotter wrote:
American 767 wrote:
So that leaves out at this point only 4 of them remaining in the old livery: N958AN, N979AN, N864NN and N921NN. Will N905NN remain in the Astrojet livery? Or has it been repainted already? It would be nice if they keep two 737s not to be painted in the current livery: one in Astrojet and the other one in the last silver livery (the one that lasted until 2013). It would also be nice if they keep N915NN, N916NN and N917NN in their TWA, Reno Air and Air Cal retro liveries respectively. Please don't hesitate to correct me if I am wrong somewhere.

That’s my understanding; one clAAsic, one Astrojet, N905NN, and the three retro or heritage liveries will remain for a total of five.

Is this a correct list of the complete set of retro liveries:
PSA (319)
Allegheny (319)
Piedmont (319)
America West (319)
TWA (738)
Air Cal (738)
Reno Air (738)
AA Classic (738)
Astrojet (738)
US Airways (321)

Any I'm missing? Besides the OneWorld planes, are there any other special liveries remaining besides the retro jets?

Runway28L · Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:18 pm

Can confirm that N905AN (ex-Flagship Freedom) is now in standard AA colors. Although that was to be expected.

Boeing778X · Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:59 pm

American 767 wrote:
So that leaves out at this point only 4 of them remaining in the old livery: N958AN, N979AN, N864NN and N921NN. Will N905NN remain in the Astrojet livery? Or has it been repainted already? It would be nice if they keep two 737s not to be painted in the current livery: one in Astrojet and the other one in the last silver livery (the one that lasted until 2013). It would also be nice if they keep N915NN, N916NN and N917NN in their TWA, Reno Air and Air Cal retro liveries respectively. Please don't hesitate to correct me if I am wrong somewhere.

N905NN was reassigned as the new Astrojet, as opposed to N951AN, which is now in the standard livery.

Swadian · Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:57 pm

Runway28L wrote:
aaflyer222 wrote:
jgcotter wrote:
Another 757 retirement this week:

N936UW / 936
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N936UW

36 remaining 752s, one in legacy livery; N679AN, which should be retiring shortly, and one more, to get them down to 34 by year end.

how many 752 are still in US tatl 12/164?

None. The last of them were just retired.

N941UW is still in the 75E config flying PHL-CUN.

OB1504 · Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:12 pm

miaami wrote:
Another 738 off to GUS for repainting today

N904AN / 3AD
scheduled to ferry ORD to GUS as AA 9651

By coincidence, I saw this airplane parked on the ramp in the classic livery and took a picture since I figured I wouldn't have many more opportunities with only a handful of planes left. I think this is probably the last photo of 3AD in bare metal, taken the morning it left for repaint:

Sooner787 · Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:49 pm

Glad they're keeping one B738 in that clAAsic livery as well as extending the lives of the Super 80's
for another year or so

Swadian · Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:23 am

What was AA's longest ever 757 route? DFW-KEF has got to be one of the longest current routes.

Boeing778X · Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:59 am

Sooner787 wrote:
Glad they're keeping one B738 in that clAAsic livery as well as extending the lives of the Super 80's
for another year or so

Other than that...It's done

Am I the only one who found a brand new 738 (N9xxNN) in the Bare Metal sexy?

VirginFlyer · Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:45 am

Boeing778X wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
Glad they're keeping one B738 in that clAAsic livery as well as extending the lives of the Super 80's
for another year or so

Other than that...It's done

Am I the only one who found a brand new 738 (N9xxNN) in the Bare Metal sexy?

Personally I'd be keen to see one MD-80 in the new colours, just for the fun of it. Doubt it will happen of course.

V/F

Boeing778X · Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:51 pm

VirginFlyer wrote:
Boeing778X wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
Glad they're keeping one B738 in that clAAsic livery as well as extending the lives of the Super 80's
for another year or so

Other than that...It's done

Am I the only one who found a brand new 738 (N9xxNN) in the Bare Metal sexy?

Personally I'd be keen to see one MD-80 in the new colours, just for the fun of it. Doubt it will happen of course.

V/F

If Corporate knew the S80s would be in for this long, it may have made sense to paint a few of the newer ones in the new livery.

American 767 · Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:21 pm

Swadian wrote:
What was AA's longest ever 757 route? DFW-KEF has got to be one of the longest current routes.

MAN-ORD and MIA-BSB also are among the longest in the system, for the 757.

Swadian · Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:39 pm

American 767 wrote:
Swadian wrote:
What was AA's longest ever 757 route? DFW-KEF has got to be one of the longest current routes.

MAN-ORD and MIA-BSB also are among the longest in the system, for the 757.

Did the 757 ever make it to CNF or MVD?

rojo · Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:29 am

Swadian wrote:
What was AA's longest ever 757 route? DFW-KEF has got to be one of the longest current routes.

American 767 wrote:
MAN-ORD and MIA-BSB also are among the longest in the system, for the 757.

Add MIA-ASU to the list.

American 767 · Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:32 am

Swadian wrote:
American 767 wrote:
Swadian wrote:
What was AA's longest ever 757 route? DFW-KEF has got to be one of the longest current routes.

MAN-ORD and MIA-BSB also are among the longest in the system, for the 757.

Did the 757 ever make it to CNF or MVD?

Not sure. MVD I don't think so.

jgcotter · Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:39 am

Boeing778X wrote:
VirginFlyer wrote:
Boeing778X wrote:

Other than that...It's done

Am I the only one who found a brand new 738 (N9xxNN) in the Bare Metal sexy?

Personally I'd be keen to see one MD-80 in the new colours, just for the fun of it. Doubt it will happen of course.

V/F

If Corporate knew the S80s would be in for this long, it may have made sense to paint a few of the newer ones in the new livery.

http://tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/threa ... colours-md

Here’s what the MD may have looked like; by Tony Madge over at HJG.

Boeing778X · Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:45 am

jgcotter wrote:
Boeing778X wrote:
VirginFlyer wrote:
Personally I'd be keen to see one MD-80 in the new colours, just for the fun of it. Doubt it will happen of course.

V/F

If Corporate knew the S80s would be in for this long, it may have made sense to paint a few of the newer ones in the new livery.

http://tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/threa ... colours-md

Here’s what the MD may have looked like; by Tony Madge over at HJG.

Maybe!

For T-Tailed planes in the fleet, the flag usually stops just under the horizontal stabilizer.

jgcotter · Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:03 am

Boeing778X wrote:
jgcotter wrote:
Boeing778X wrote:

If Corporate knew the S80s would be in for this long, it may have made sense to paint a few of the newer ones in the new livery.

http://tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/threa ... colours-md

Here’s what the MD may have looked like; by Tony Madge over at HJG.

Maybe!

For T-Tailed planes in the fleet, the flag usually stops just under the horizontal stabilizer.

https://goo.gl/images/vZ4AMa

More like this one by fabiopittol over at X-plane.org forum?

Boeing778X · Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:27 pm

jgcotter wrote:
Boeing778X wrote:
jgcotter wrote:

http://tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/threa ... colours-md

Here’s what the MD may have looked like; by Tony Madge over at HJG.

Maybe!

For T-Tailed planes in the fleet, the flag usually stops just under the horizontal stabilizer.

https://goo.gl/images/vZ4AMa

More like this one by fabiopittol over at X-plane.org forum?

Yes, that one looks vastly better! Real pretty!

aaflyer222 · Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:31 pm

Is there a current count of aircraft still in usx paint? the last I counted there were 4 left as listed below, but it most likely has changed.
dh1: n941ha, n975ha, n806ex
cr2: n410aw

Swadian · Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:52 pm

rojo wrote:
Swadian wrote:
What was AA's longest ever 757 route? DFW-KEF has got to be one of the longest current routes.

American 767 wrote:
MAN-ORD and MIA-BSB also are among the longest in the system, for the 757.

Add MIA-ASU to the list.

Does MIA-ASU still operate?

Runway28L · Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:14 pm

Are there any plans for the L-US A319s and A321s to get the 2KU upgrade?

I see 4 A320s have been upgraded to 2KU, but no A319s or A321s yet.

FSDan · Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:33 pm

Swadian wrote:
rojo wrote:
Swadian wrote:
What was AA's longest ever 757 route? DFW-KEF has got to be one of the longest current routes.

American 767 wrote:
MAN-ORD and MIA-BSB also are among the longest in the system, for the 757.

Add MIA-ASU to the list.

Does MIA-ASU still operate?

No. It was relatively short-lived.

alasizon · Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:08 pm

Runway28L wrote:
Are there any plans for the L-US A319s and A321s to get the 2KU upgrade?

I see 4 A320s have been upgraded to 2KU, but no A319s or A321s yet.

I believe the 321s are going to get the upgrade as part of the interior reconfig.

jgcotter · Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:09 pm

Another MD-83 retirement to ROW today.

N439AA just landed from DFW to ROW.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N439AA

45 MD-80s remaining.

FSDan · Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:29 pm

jgcotter wrote:
Another MD-83 retirement to ROW today.

N439AA just landed from DFW to ROW.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N439AA

45 MD-80s remaining.

Looking ahead at the Q1 2018 schedules (February 23, to be exact), it looks like the M80s are all but gone from ORD. Just 11 daily departures to DEN (x1), SAT (x1), DFW (x1), MSP (x3), STL (x4), and DTW (x1). In the inbound direction the frequencies are the same except for there is an arrival from RDU and no arrival from DFW. There are still ~90 daily departures from DFW to all kinds of destinations. So perhaps by S18 the M80s will be entirely confined to DFW routes...

AA321T · Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:57 pm

Runway28L wrote:
Are there any plans for the L-US A319s and A321s to get the 2KU upgrade?

I see 4 A320s have been upgraded to 2KU, but no A319s or A321s yet.

According to an internal memo that came out a couple of days ago, "the high-speed 'Gogo 2Ku' product will be added to around 130 Airbus aircraft, while ViaSat broadband equipment will be installed on more than 600 planes, including the new Boeing 737-MAX 8". The way I'm understanding this is that the LUS A319 and A320 fleets will receive the 2Ku upgrade as that would be the closet fleets to a total of 130 and all of the A321s will receive the ViaSat product as they go in for the cabin refurbishment.

TXRoadMan · Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:29 pm

jgcotter wrote:
Another MD-83 retirement to ROW today.

45 MD-80s remaining.

If AA follows their Q3 fleet guidance, that should be all of the MadDog retirements for 2017.

Looking at Fleet Site, it shows 5 of 8 ERDs painted in new colors. One of them is the previously-painted flight school PR plane (856,) so why only paint 4 of 7 that came out of SJT? Did they need to press them into service that quick, which doesn't make much sense, as they've had nothing but time to prepare them. Or, is this an indication of what may be temporary vs permanent after the CR7s and E175s are fully in-service?

OB1504 · Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:44 pm

AA321T wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
Are there any plans for the L-US A319s and A321s to get the 2KU upgrade?

I see 4 A320s have been upgraded to 2KU, but no A319s or A321s yet.

According to an internal memo that came out a couple of days ago, "the high-speed 'Gogo 2Ku' product will be added to around 130 Airbus aircraft, while ViaSat broadband equipment will be installed on more than 600 planes, including the new Boeing 737-MAX 8". The way I'm understanding this is that the LUS A319 and A320 fleets will receive the 2Ku upgrade as that would be the closet fleets to a total of 130 and all of the A321s will receive the ViaSat product as they go in for the cabin refurbishment.

How exciting for frequent fliers to have to keep accounts with three different inflight Wi-Fi providers, between Gogo and ViaSat on the narrowbodies and Panasonic on the widebodies.

AA321T · Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:17 pm

OB1504 wrote:
AA321T wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
Are there any plans for the L-US A319s and A321s to get the 2KU upgrade?

I see 4 A320s have been upgraded to 2KU, but no A319s or A321s yet.

According to an internal memo that came out a couple of days ago, "the high-speed 'Gogo 2Ku' product will be added to around 130 Airbus aircraft, while ViaSat broadband equipment will be installed on more than 600 planes, including the new Boeing 737-MAX 8". The way I'm understanding this is that the LUS A319 and A320 fleets will receive the 2Ku upgrade as that would be the closet fleets to a total of 130 and all of the A321s will receive the ViaSat product as they go in for the cabin refurbishment.

How exciting for frequent fliers to have to keep accounts with three different inflight Wi-Fi providers, between Gogo and ViaSat on the narrowbodies and Panasonic on the widebodies.

They talk about this in the memo as well. They are working on a single sign on/splash page for all three providers to make it seamless for customers so they will only need one log on that works across all providers. They also said they are taking control of pricing so the pricing will be the same no matter which system is on the plane.

119297 · Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:13 pm

N369AA / 369 a 763 is being ferried to ROW today for retirement
Schedule to ferry from TUL to ROW as AA9642 today

119297 · Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:20 pm

Another 738 being ferried to GUS for the new paint livery today

N979AN / 3DM
Will ferry from ORD to GUS as AA 9645

demkid · Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:09 pm

miaami wrote:
Another 738 being ferried to GUS for the new paint livery today

N979AN / 3DM
Will ferry from ORD to GUS as AA 9645

And then there were 3:

N958AN
N864NN
N921NN (heritage)

American 767 · Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:47 pm

So no plane in the old AA livery left at this point, other than the MD-80s and the very 737 they preserve in the clAAssic livery.

If American has extended the life of the remaining MD-80s till the end of 2019 (remember the original plan was to retire the last ones by now), then they should paint one of them in the new livery. At least one. I don't know if that will happen, most probably not, but if it ever does I won't be surprised. By the time the last MD-80 leaves it will be seven years American will have introduced its new livery.

VirginFlyer · Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:24 pm

American 767 wrote:
So no plane in the old AA livery left at this point, other than the MD-80s and the very 737 they preserve in the clAAssic livery.

According to https://sites.google.com/site/newamericanfleet/home and then eliminating the ones noted in this thread as having gone for paint, there are still three 737s and a 757, although the 757 is soon to be retired and I can't imagine it will be many weeks until the remaining 2 737s go for paint, so in effect you're right.

N958AN/3CN

N874NN/3GV

N921NN/3KG

N679AN/5EL

Plus a Dash 8 in US Airways express colours (which will be retired very soon) and three Embraer 140s in old American Eagle colours (haven't clicked how long these are staying around for):

N806EX/ESC

N808AE

N817AE

N850AE

American 767 wrote:
If American has extended the life of the remaining MD-80s till the end of 2019 (remember the original plan was to retire the last ones by now), then they should paint one of them in the new livery. At least one. I don't know if that will happen, most probably not, but if it ever does I won't be surprised. By the time the last MD-80 leaves it will be seven years American will have introduced its new livery.

I too would like to see it, but even though it has been 5 years and counting, soncenthe MD-80 retirement has always been just around the corner, it never made sense, even though as you say with the delay in retiring them it would in hindsight have made sense.

B757capt · Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:54 pm

No sense in painting an MD80 if the plan is to retire. Although all of the avgeek world would love it, it just doesn’t make good business sense.

MLIAA · Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:59 pm

And yet, AA painted Dash 8s in new colors, (even painted one in a special Piedmont retro livery), along with the E190 fleet and several 757s and 767s. These birds will be around as long as the MD80s will.

UA444 · Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:43 pm

Let’s hope after all the 737s are done they send a few MD-80s

Jo8338 · Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:10 pm

What is the story with 679? Will it be converted? It doesn't seem like they have enough 75's to cover all the scheduled flying

American 767 · Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:48 pm

VirginFlyer wrote:
American 767 wrote:
So no plane in the old AA livery left at this point, other than the MD-80s and the very 737 they preserve in the clAAssic livery.

According to https://sites.google.com/site/newamericanfleet/home and then eliminating the ones noted in this thread as having gone for paint, there are still three 737s and a 757, although the 757 is soon to be retired and I can't imagine it will be many weeks until the remaining 2 737s go for paint, so in effect you're right.

N958AN/3CN

N874NN/3GV

N921NN/3KG

.

Thank you for the updated info. So my understanding is, it will be one of these thee 737s that will stay in the old livery.

aaflyer222 · Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:06 pm

American 767 wrote:
VirginFlyer wrote:
American 767 wrote:
So no plane in the old AA livery left at this point, other than the MD-80s and the very 737 they preserve in the clAAssic livery.

According to https://sites.google.com/site/newamericanfleet/home and then eliminating the ones noted in this thread as having gone for paint, there are still three 737s and a 757, although the 757 is soon to be retired and I can't imagine it will be many weeks until the remaining 2 737s go for paint, so in effect you're right.

N958AN/3CN

N874NN/3GV

N921NN/3KG

.

Thank you for the updated info. So my understanding is, it will be one of these thee 737s that will stay in the old livery.

it will be n921nn. This was the last aircraft delivered in lava paint.

Swadian · Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:54 pm

Will it be possible for AA to re-engine the A321ceo to A321neo?

kaitak744 · Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:22 pm

Swadian wrote:
Will it be possible for AA to re-engine the A321ceo to A321neo?

That is not something that any airline will do, or can do economically. The NEO is more than just new engines, there are other upgrades to the aircraft as well.

The A321 CEOs are still efficient and modern aircraft. They will be flown until their lifespan is up.

Swadian · Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:42 pm

What's AA going to do with the PTV-equipped seats removed from the 32Bs and 38As?

winginit · Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:48 pm

Boeing778X wrote:
If Corporate knew the S80s would be in for this long, it may have made sense to paint a few of the newer ones in the new livery.

Surely not financial sense.

Boeing778X · Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:38 pm

VirginFlyer wrote:
American 767 wrote:
So no plane in the old AA livery left at this point, other than the MD-80s and the very 737 they preserve in the clAAssic livery.

According to https://sites.google.com/site/newamericanfleet/home and then eliminating the ones noted in this thread as having gone for paint, there are still three 737s and a 757, although the 757 is soon to be retired and I can't imagine it will be many weeks until the remaining 2 737s go for paint, so in effect you're right.

N958AN/3CN

N874NN/3GV

N921NN/3KG

N679AN/5EL

Plus a Dash 8 in US Airways express colours (which will be retired very soon) and three Embraer 140s in old American Eagle colours (haven't clicked how long these are staying around for):

N806EX/ESC

N808AE

N817AE

N850AE

American 767 wrote:
If American has extended the life of the remaining MD-80s till the end of 2019 (remember the original plan was to retire the last ones by now), then they should paint one of them in the new livery. At least one. I don't know if that will happen, most probably not, but if it ever does I won't be surprised. By the time the last MD-80 leaves it will be seven years American will have introduced its new livery.

I too would like to see it, but even though it has been 5 years and counting, soncenthe MD-80 retirement has always been just around the corner, it never made sense, even though as you say with the delay in retiring them it would in hindsight have made sense.

The user doesn’t update as much as it should be, but that sounds about right.

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