New AA painted aircraft - 2017

jgcotter · Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:16 am

B738 N950AN / 3CE is in the paint shop at GUS for new livery. I now show 19 remaining 738s in old livery.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9651

jgcotter · Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:17 am

And two remaining 752s in old livery:
N679AN / 5EL and N181AN / 5EN

Swadian · Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:11 pm

mikejepp wrote:
Swadian wrote:
If there's 24 75Ls, 10 75Hs, 6 75Es, and 3 75Ws, does that suggest AA will retire all the 75Hs and 75Ws for a fleet of only 30 a/c or will they use the 75Ws to fill in?

Are 200-207 or 935-942 being returned to the lessor?

Es and Ws leave first. Then Hs medium term. Ls last to go, long term.

N942UW just retired and it was a 75H. I think they were going to have the 75Es retire before the 75Hs, then switched it around.

Also, no more 75Ws with the old brown F seats - N182AN was the last one.

Jo8338 · Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:16 pm

I will miss those brown seats..... those were the last of a generation

American 767 · Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:51 pm

Jo8338 wrote:
I will miss those brown seats..... those were the last of a generation

I remember those very well, they date from the 80s ! Four years ago was when I last flew on a 757 with the F Class old brown leather seats, from MIA to JFK. It is interesting that only the 757 kept those brown leather seats up until now. Most other aircrafts in the fleet had newer F Class seats a long time ago already. Late 90s/early 2000s was when most planes at American, except the 757, received new F Class seats in lieu of brown leather seats. I believe that the Fokker 100 also kept its brown leather seats in the F Class cabin until its retirement in 2004.

MLIAA · Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:31 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there still a few Republic and Air Wisconsin birds left in USX paint?

Runway28L · Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:17 pm

MLIAA wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there still a few Republic and Air Wisconsin birds left in USX paint?

I believe there are 2 CRJs still in US colors (can't remember the regs). All of the L-US E175s have been repainted.

aaflyer222 · Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:20 pm

only crj still in usx paint is n410aw, as well as some dh8.

Swadian · Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:07 am

Any 757s left with Recaro NGBC seats?

N679AN and N181AN are the last 75Ws and the last 757s in the old livery. Timetable shows them scheduled for JFK-LAS next month.

demkid · Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:21 pm

Should we be seeing a significant retirement of MD-80s, sometime soon? I read that the plan was to be down to 32 by the end of the 3rd quarter (end of this week), so they're still about 15 above that number.

alasizon · Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:25 pm

demkid wrote:
Should we be seeing a significant retirement of MD-80s, sometime soon? I read that the plan was to be down to 32 by the end of the 3rd quarter (end of this week), so they're still about 15 above that number.

According to the most recent investor update, the plan is to be down to 43 by the end of this quarter and then down to 42 at year end.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.Fi ... U9MQ==&t=1

119297 · Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:26 pm

The first 737 MAX is schedule for delivery today

Scheduled to ferry from BFI to TUL as AA 9701

N324RA 3RA

Boeing778X · Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:40 pm

miaami wrote:
The first 737 MAX is schedule for delivery today

Scheduled to ferry from BFI to TUL as AA 9701

N324RA 3RA

A flight plan has been made.

The first of many!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9701

itchief · Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:15 pm

miaami wrote:
The first 737 MAX is schedule for delivery today

Scheduled to ferry from BFI to TUL as AA 9701

N324RA 3RA

A plane to avoid when flying AA. 30' pitch in Y, 172 pax vs 160 in the 737-800, and no IFE. Not much of an upgrade for the people riding in one of these.

jgcotter · Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:24 pm

Another 757-200 retirement to ROW today.

N181AN / 5EN

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9646

One B752 left in legacy livery.

Runway28L · Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:49 am

jgcotter wrote:
Another 757-200 retirement to ROW today.

N181AN / 5EN

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9646

One B752 left in legacy livery.

N679AN. Appears to be doing only JFK-CLT-JFK runs for now.

aaflyer222 · Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:34 am

will n679an be retired in q4? I know there will be 6 more removed by the end of the year.

Boeing778X · Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:16 am

jgcotter wrote:
Another 757-200 retirement to ROW today.

N181AN / 5EN

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9646

One B752 left in legacy livery.

Parked next to N181AN just a few days ago. Snapped a few pics and everything.

jgcotter · Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:31 pm

B738 N863NN / 3GU is in the paint shop at GUS for new livery. 18 remaining 738s in old livery.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9648

Boeing778X · Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:47 am

My gosh! A handful of 738s, 1x 752 and the remaining MD80s are all that's left of the clAAsic livery! After almost 50 years!

Not bad! A few CRJ-200s and the majority of the E140s still have the old Eagle livery, but that's pretty much it! :O

jgcotter · Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:04 am

B738 N913NN / 3JX is in the paint shop at GUS for new livery. 17 remaining 738s in old livery.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9665

jgcotter · Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:49 pm

aaflyer222 wrote:
dh8 937, 940 and 942 have been at sby for 4 weeks. Is piedmont still storing these aircraft at row?

DH8-1 N940HA is en route from SBY to GTF for its new owner; Avmax. N937HA, N942HA and N943HA should be headed there as well. Avmax has taken delivery of the second batch of six aircraft, which were ferried out of ROW to GTF, of a twenty-seven Dash 8-100 aircraft purchase deal from Piedmont Airlines, Inc., subsidiary to American Airlines, Inc. with delivery stream through the first quarter of 2018.

aaflyer222 · Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:22 pm

on fr24 it looks like n940ha went to gtf on Saturday and n942ha is going today.

jgcotter · Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:22 pm

Hmmm I'm looking at the fr24 live feed on my phone and it's showing 940 at 20,000 ft over Baker, Montana. It was scheduled for the 30th though. 924 looks like it was filed three times for today but is still sitting in SBY. Looks like the remainder of the DH8As will be headed to GTF.

jgcotter · Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:44 am

Another 767-300 retirement to ROW today.

N376AN / 376

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9665

Boeing778X · Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:47 pm

Another 737-800 delivery.

N352PS (3PS)

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N35 ... /KBFI/KTUL

DFWandOMA · Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:42 pm

jgcotter wrote:
Another 767-300 retirement to ROW today.

N376AN / 376

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9665

How many more will be retired this year?

FSDan · Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:53 pm

DFWandOMA wrote:
jgcotter wrote:
Another 767-300 retirement to ROW today.

N376AN / 376

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9665

How many more will be retired this year?

And how many are still left at this point? Is the fleet site accurate that there are 26 left?

hkcanadaexpat · Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:41 pm

Actually, N369AA was retired on October 3rd. Currently decommissioning in TUL. After this one, there is 2 left for 2017 (N373AA & N383AN). Which will then leave a fleet of 24x at 31-Dec-2017. Another 6x are expected to be retired in 2018.

jgcotter · Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:40 pm

Another 767-300 retirement to ROW today.

N383AN / 383 is en route from DFW to ROW.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9674

Swadian · Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:01 pm

N679AN (former AA Astrojet retro livery) will be retired at the end of October 2017. It's scheduled for AA1263 / AA2229 JFK-LAS-JFK. Flew on it in August.

UGA777 · Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:26 pm

I wish they would slow down on the 767 and 757 retirements and speed up on the MD-80s. The MD-80 retirement schedule seems to change almost monthly.

alasizon · Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:48 pm

UGA777 wrote:
I wish they would slow down on the 767 and 757 retirements and speed up on the MD-80s. The MD-80 retirement schedule seems to change almost monthly.

I think only four extra MD-80s are sticking around into 2018 that weren't planned. The 767s were always going to speed up in Q4. I do believe they sped up the 757s beyond what was planned though. I can't seem to find my saved copy of the original fleet plan from the beginning of the year.

aaflyer222 · Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:54 pm

the original plan was to retire 25 s80 this year, over the summer they decided to only remove 15. The 757 schedule did not change, as they still plan to have 34 in service at the end of the year (-17).

Jo8338 · Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:06 am

There is no point to speed up the Super 80 retirements. Remember the last batch from TWA are from 1999 and newer than some 738's

Boeing778X · Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:08 am

A new 787-9 is on property!

N831AA (8LN)

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N831AA

fraspotter · Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:38 am

itchief wrote:
miaami wrote:
The first 737 MAX is schedule for delivery today

Scheduled to ferry from BFI to TUL as AA 9701

N324RA 3RA

A plane to avoid when flying AA. 30' pitch in Y, 172 pax vs 160 in the 737-800, and no IFE. Not much of an upgrade for the people riding in one of these.

People just need to realize that seat back IFE is going away. There is zero financial incentive to lug all that extra weight around when people can stream via their devices which most people already have with them anyway. Seat back IFE is labor intensive and there is no guarantee for a passenger to know ahead of time if their particular seat will have a functioning system or not. Using your own devices eliminates this uncertainty. Don't have a device? Either join the 21st century or bring a book like people did before the advent of seatback IFE.

jgcotter · Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:23 pm

B738 N914NN / 3JY is in the paint shop at GUS for new livery. 16 remaining 738s in legacy livery.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N914NN

UpNAWAy · Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:43 pm

Boeing778X wrote:
A new 787-9 is on property!

N831AA (8LN)

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N831AA

Actually that one is nose # 8LM

USAirKid · Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:02 pm

fraspotter wrote:
itchief wrote:
miaami wrote:
The first 737 MAX is schedule for delivery today

Scheduled to ferry from BFI to TUL as AA 9701

N324RA 3RA

A plane to avoid when flying AA. 30' pitch in Y, 172 pax vs 160 in the 737-800, and no IFE. Not much of an upgrade for the people riding in one of these.

People just need to realize that seat back IFE is going away. There is zero financial incentive to lug all that extra weight around when people can stream via their devices which most people already have with them anyway. Seat back IFE is labor intensive and there is no guarantee for a passenger to know ahead of time if their particular seat will have a functioning system or not. Using your own devices eliminates this uncertainty. Don't have a device? Either join the 21st century or bring a book like people did before the advent of seatback IFE.

Or if you fly an airline like AS that rents out tablets to play video from you're all set.

jgcotter · Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:54 pm

Another 757-200 retirement to GYR today.

N935UW / 935

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N935UW

jgcotter · Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:02 pm

Another 757-200 retirement to GYR today.

N940UW / 940

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N940UW

jgcotter · Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:15 pm

B738 N909NN / 3JU is in the paint shop at GUS for new livery. 15 remaining 738s in legacy livery.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N909NN

itchief · Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:45 pm

fraspotter wrote:
itchief wrote:
miaami wrote:
The first 737 MAX is schedule for delivery today

Scheduled to ferry from BFI to TUL as AA 9701

N324RA 3RA

A plane to avoid when flying AA. 30' pitch in Y, 172 pax vs 160 in the 737-800, and no IFE. Not much of an upgrade for the people riding in one of these.

People just need to realize that seat back IFE is going away. There is zero financial incentive to lug all that extra weight around when people can stream via their devices which most people already have with them anyway. Seat back IFE is labor intensive and there is no guarantee for a passenger to know ahead of time if their particular seat will have a functioning system or not. Using your own devices eliminates this uncertainty. Don't have a device? Either join the 21st century or bring a book like people did before the advent of seatback IFE.

I would say the focus should be more on the 30' pitch in Y than the IFE. No matter how you look at what AA is doing it is not good for the pax. They are winning in the race to the bottom of the big 3. And do not forget a large chunk of the fleet has no power in the seats for those who do not charge the device.

Sooner787 · Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:01 pm

itchief wrote:
fraspotter wrote:
itchief wrote:

A plane to avoid when flying AA. 30' pitch in Y, 172 pax vs 160 in the 737-800, and no IFE. Not much of an upgrade for the people riding in one of these.

People just need to realize that seat back IFE is going away. There is zero financial incentive to lug all that extra weight around when people can stream via their devices which most people already have with them anyway. Seat back IFE is labor intensive and there is no guarantee for a passenger to know ahead of time if their particular seat will have a functioning system or not. Using your own devices eliminates this uncertainty. Don't have a device? Either join the 21st century or bring a book like people did before the advent of seatback IFE.

I would say the focus should be more on the 30' pitch in Y than the IFE. No matter how you look at what AA is doing it is not good for the pax. They are winning in the race to the bottom of the big 3. And do not forget a large chunk of the fleet has no power in the seats for those who do not charge the device.

I'm 6'2" with long legs and 30 inch pitch is a nonstarter for me. I'd say to avoid the 738's and shoot for A32X's when I can, but I hear
they're heading down the same road,

Looks like Southwest or Alaska will be by carriers of choice , at least I have enough legroom

Swadian · Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:55 pm

Looks like 935-942 are the 757s leaving the fleet. Why do AA aircraft have a nose number that often differs from the registration?

Sooner787 wrote:

I'm 6'2" with long legs and 30 inch pitch is a nonstarter for me. I'd say to avoid the 738's and shoot for A32X's when I can, but I hear
they're heading down the same road,

Looks like Southwest or Alaska will be by carriers of choice , at least I have enough legroom

Definitely find the A32X to be more comfortable than the 738s, but they are going to end up getting more seats as well. At least they will still have more seat width by a little bit.

No guarantee WN and AS aren't going down the same road.

fraspotter · Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:18 pm

itchief wrote:
fraspotter wrote:
itchief wrote:

A plane to avoid when flying AA. 30' pitch in Y, 172 pax vs 160 in the 737-800, and no IFE. Not much of an upgrade for the people riding in one of these.

People just need to realize that seat back IFE is going away. There is zero financial incentive to lug all that extra weight around when people can stream via their devices which most people already have with them anyway. Seat back IFE is labor intensive and there is no guarantee for a passenger to know ahead of time if their particular seat will have a functioning system or not. Using your own devices eliminates this uncertainty. Don't have a device? Either join the 21st century or bring a book like people did before the advent of seatback IFE.

I would say the focus should be more on the 30' pitch in Y than the IFE. No matter how you look at what AA is doing it is not good for the pax. They are winning in the race to the bottom of the big 3. And do not forget a large chunk of the fleet has no power in the seats for those who do not charge the device.

From what I was reading I believe as the interiors are overhauled over time to remove the seatback monitors and IFE boxes they were going to be installing power ports to each seat as well. Does this mean the 738s are going to get new seats? I imagine if they were going to roll out new seats then the MAX would be the first to have it. Does the new AA 738MAXs have different seats than the standard 738NG already in the fleet?

aaflyer222 · Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:58 pm

s80 n438aa (1987) has been at DFW since 22 aug. will this aircraft return to service at some point?

itchief · Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:43 pm

fraspotter wrote:
itchief wrote:
fraspotter wrote:

People just need to realize that seat back IFE is going away. There is zero financial incentive to lug all that extra weight around when people can stream via their devices which most people already have with them anyway. Seat back IFE is labor intensive and there is no guarantee for a passenger to know ahead of time if their particular seat will have a functioning system or not. Using your own devices eliminates this uncertainty. Don't have a device? Either join the 21st century or bring a book like people did before the advent of seatback IFE.

I would say the focus should be more on the 30' pitch in Y than the IFE. No matter how you look at what AA is doing it is not good for the pax. They are winning in the race to the bottom of the big 3. And do not forget a large chunk of the fleet has no power in the seats for those who do not charge the device.

From what I was reading I believe as the interiors are overhauled over time to remove the seatback monitors and IFE boxes they were going to be installing power ports to each seat as well. Does this mean the 738s are going to get new seats? I imagine if they were going to roll out new seats then the MAX would be the first to have it. Does the new AA 738MAXs have different seats than the standard 738NG already in the fleet?

LUS planes have all gotten new seat covers, no power. It looks good when you walk into the aircraft but when you sit down you realize that it is the same old seat with a new cover and no power.

ahj2000 · Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:59 pm

itchief wrote:
fraspotter wrote:
itchief wrote:

I would say the focus should be more on the 30' pitch in Y than the IFE. No matter how you look at what AA is doing it is not good for the pax. They are winning in the race to the bottom of the big 3. And do not forget a large chunk of the fleet has no power in the seats for those who do not charge the device.

From what I was reading I believe as the interiors are overhauled over time to remove the seatback monitors and IFE boxes they were going to be installing power ports to each seat as well. Does this mean the 738s are going to get new seats? I imagine if they were going to roll out new seats then the MAX would be the first to have it. Does the new AA 738MAXs have different seats than the standard 738NG already in the fleet?

LUS planes have all gotten new seat covers, no power. It looks good when you walk into the aircraft but when you sit down you realize that it is the same old seat with a new cover and no power.

I had that on a 321 out of Miami. disappointing that there wasn’t power, but the legroom on L-US a/c in Y is impressively compared to today’s 319s.

That being said, next month will be my first flight betweenness DFW and RIC not on a Mad Dog. Shame as that was the final route I travel on with MD-80s.

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