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First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:27 pm

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.m ... av4&page=4

The first of the former Transaero Triple Sevens has been ferried to Florida to be parted-out. Hardly surprising as the plane is one of the undesirable -200 non-ER-models and more than 21 years old.
 
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:57 pm

It wasn't undesirable to UN though, as the non-ER 777s (including the -300 version) were suited to the runs between Russia and places such as Egypt and Turkey. They were great for the six hour flights to the Med on UN's charter business.

Thanks to terrorism and the collapse in the value of the Rouble that business is now extremely sparse for all the Russian carriers.
 
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:00 pm

Wasn't this technically one of the original UA planes? Something of an O.G. among 777s if so. Sad to see it go, but expected.
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:04 pm

This frame also did VNO-JFK runs.
 
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:42 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
Wasn't this technically one of the original UA planes? Something of an O.G. among 777s if so. Sad to see it go, but expected.
Line number 9, a -222, first delivered to UA. Definitely one of the first 777-200As built.
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:44 pm

The original United 772's have been around since about 1994 or thereabouts, in many ways as much of a victim of newer gen 777's as the 744 has been. And on that subject, I thought I saw an original British Airways G-ZZZ* 772 getting airborne the other day. Surely almost as long on the tooth ?
 
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:06 am

Who are pilots on such ferry flights? Former UN pilots or are there some sort of freelancer pilots?
 
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:37 am

Not likely to be any UN pilots. Probably freelance contractor.
 
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:46 am

It flew for Varig too.

 
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:51 am

JannEejit wrote:
And on that subject, I thought I saw an original British Airways G-ZZZ* 772 getting airborne the other day. Surely almost as long on the tooth ?

BA still have 3 772 non-ER in the fleet. The oldest of these was delivered to BA in 1995. Fairly recently BA announced that they expected to keep their 772s in use for 30 years, but it isn't clear whether this meant the entire 772 fleet, or just the much more numerous 772-ERs. The three G-ZZZ* planes have a useful niche in BA operations as their range is ample for LHR - Middle East and LHR -East Coast USA/Canada.
I suppose they could last the full thirty years, on the "one careful owner" principle.
 
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:16 am

na wrote:
The first of the former Transaero Triple Sevens has been ferried to Florida to be parted-out. Hardly surprising as the plane is one of the undesirable -200 non-ER-models and more than 21 years old.


Also, don't forget the lack of timely maintenance carried out by UN due to shortage of funds- that's the reason why the airline was grounded back in 2015 by Rosaviatsia. Their fleet might be not in the best shape for re-sell...

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... er-418030/
 
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:32 pm

ADent wrote:
It flew for Varig too.


There are a few of these original UA 772As that went to Brazil around 2004 that were offloaded as part of UA's bankruptcy. One of them, N207UA l/n 232, went to Varig in 2004 as PP-VRE. After Varig went bust, it was actually intended to go to Royal Brunei in 2007 with another former UA/Varig 777 (maybe even N767UA), and N207UA was even painted in Brunei colors before the deal fell through. After it fell through in mid 2007, it sat around for months at MZJ looking for a home (I have a picture of it on the MZJ ramp around here somewhere). It ended up sitting around at YMX for a about a year until Transaero finally picked it up and reregistered it to EI-UNX...until they went bankrupt. The last picture in the database is from last summer, and shows it sitting idle at VKO. I'll assume it's destined for a similar fate.

It's funny to me how the life of an airplane can sometimes work. N207UA and N767UA led similar lives bouncing between three bankrupt airlines. Maybe these birds were bad luck from the start. Even though they're old and fast becoming obsolete, it's always sad to see a once proud aircraft meet such an undignified end.


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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:54 pm

One other thing that probably made them unattractive: Those former UA 777As are PW powered. The bulk of the worldwide 777-200(ER) fleet is powered by GE and RR. PW engines on 777s are probably very rare to see these days, especially after the PW4098 fiasco and with GE getting exclusivity on all new derivatives of the 777 starting with the 77W and continuing with the 777-8/9x.
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:01 pm

I read that the ex-Varig ones were in rough shape,too.
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:05 pm

aemoreira1981 wrote:
This frame also did VNO-JFK runs.


I'm not sure if I flew on the particular frame in question here but I did fly UN on JFK-VKO-JFK a few weeks before they went under and the interior was definitely in bad shape. I'm typically not the type to pass judgement on the airworthiness on an airplane based on how shaggy the interior is but I couldn't help but start to wonder on those flights.
 
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Re: First Transaero 777 ferried to the scrappers

Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:11 pm

GianiDC wrote:
Who are pilots on such ferry flights? Former UN pilots or are there some sort of freelancer pilots?


The flight was operated by Southern Cross Aviation (www.southernx.com) which provides ferry services for a wide variety of aircraft types.
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