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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:51 pm

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The new expansion of Helsinki Airport was inaugurated on the anniversary of the airport

The new south pier of Helsinki Airport was opened for passengers and air traffic on Monday, 10 July. The first flight from the majestic south pier departed from gate 54 at 2:10 PM to New York, operated by Finnair. The extension was inaugurated on a historically significant day. Helsinki Airport itself was opened on exactly the same day 65 years ago. On 10 July 1952, the Finnish flag and the Olympic flags flew at sunny airport.

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https://www.finavia.fi/en/news-room/new ... e-airport/


Anyone here who's already had a chance to travel through the new pier? Or staff working there? How does it work in real life?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:20 pm

Martin Langaas (Manager Cargo Department at Avinor) is seeking 800 million NOK in investments for a new cargo terminal at OSL, which will be the world's largest seafood terminal. The increase in seafood freight has been 10% yearly, and the terminal capacity has been increased by 102% the last year alone by adding new freighters and increasing weekly departures. The increase in seafood cargo is expected to be 500% the next 30 years.

Norway is the largest air cargo market in the Nordics, with 50% of all freight being flown through the country.

"A freighter aircraft carries about 100-130 tons of seafood. But most people aren't aware that every time they fly to Thailand, Los Angeles or Tokyo, 10 tons of Norwegian salmon is carried in the cargo hold", says Langaas.

Norwegian salmon is the largest single cargo product in Europe. 600 tons of Norwegian salmon is flown daily to destinations in Asia, Africa and North-America.

The new automated seafood center will become the world's largest seafood terminal, and the world's first seafood center of it's kind. It will have the capacity of 300,000 tons of seafood yearly, meaning about 1600 tons every day. It will be able to handle 160 trucks daily, and feed two cargo aircraft hourly.

In Norwegian: Hegnar/Finansavisen/Dagbladet:
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/vil-byg ... n/68493506
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:31 pm

JetBuddy wrote:
Martin Langaas (Manager Cargo Department at Avinor) is seeking 800 million NOK in investments for a new cargo terminal at OSL, which will be the world's largest seafood terminal. The increase in seafood freight has been 10% yearly, and the terminal capacity has been increased by 102% the last year alone by adding new freighters and increasing weekly departures. The increase in seafood cargo is expected to be 500% the next 30 years.

Norway is the largest air cargo market in the Nordics, with 50% of all freight being flown through the country.

"A freighter aircraft carries about 100-130 tons of seafood. But most people aren't aware that every time they fly to Thailand, Los Angeles or Tokyo, 10 tons of Norwegian salmon is carried in the cargo hold", says Langaas.

Norwegian salmon is the largest single cargo product in Europe. 600 tons of Norwegian salmon is flown daily to destinations in Asia, Africa and North-America.

The new automated seafood center will become the world's largest seafood terminal, and the world's first seafood center of it's kind. It will have the capacity of 300,000 tons of seafood yearly, meaning about 1600 tons every day. It will be able to handle 160 trucks daily, and feed two cargo aircraft hourly.

In Norwegian: Hegnar/Finansavisen/Dagbladet:
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/vil-byg ... n/68493506


Quite much of Norwegian salmon is also first taken to HEL on trucks and then flown to Japan, 36 hrs from ocean to sushi.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:32 am

Indeed, I remember listening to an interview podcast of Finnair's CEO last year and he said that AY's largest single cargo product is Norwegian salmon. If I'm not mistaken he also said in the interview that Norwegian salmon does not have access to China. Why is that and is this still the case?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:05 am

Nami wrote:
If I'm not mistaken he also said in the interview that Norwegian salmon does not have access to China. Why is that and is this still the case?


After the Nobel Peace prize in 2010 the relationship between Norway and China became rather poor. However this has now been solved (last fall) and the Chinese market is about to open for Norwegian salmon again.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:00 am

Are there any plans connecting the new seafood
freight terminal at OSL with the Norwegian railnetwork? Salmons etc could then be hauled
from various costal ports by train reducing the emissions of the first leg of the journey.
OSL is connected through "Flytåget" and tracks are less occupied obviously during the nights.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:11 am

ARN wrote:
Are there any plans connecting the new seafood
freight terminal at OSL with the Norwegian railnetwork? Salmons etc could then be hauled
from various costal ports by train reducing the emissions of the first leg of the journey.
OSL is connected through "Flytåget" and tracks are less occupied obviously during the nights.


There are some salmon and fish going by train already, but part of regular cargo trains. Such as those going from Narvik via Sweden to Oslo.

However it has to be trucked the last leg to OSL from the train cargo terminal at Alnabru (north of Oslo) as there is no train cargo terminal at OSL, and no current plans establish this

One issue is that quite a lot of the salmon farming and other seafood sites are often quite far away from the nearest train line, and a few of those lines is not electrified, so it is just as easy just truck it to OSL.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:08 pm

HEL in June 2017

Domestic: 184 627 (-5.8%)
International: 1 564 478 (+12.4%)
Total: 1 749 105 (+10.1%)

Domestic decrease is partly explained by OUL being closed due to renovation.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:48 am

Weak growth at Copenhagen for June compared to Stockholm and Helsinki. Oslo numbers is not yet released.

CPH: +0,6%
ARN: +12%
HEL: +10,1%
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:08 pm

Statistics for Helsinki and Copenhagen (January - June 2017)

Helsinki
9,034,244 (+8.6%)

Copenhagen
13,704,859 (+2.3%)

I didn't find statistics for Stockholm Arlanda.
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:18 pm

Juni numbers for KEF

Juni 930,077 pax, that is a 21.8 % increase over juni 2016
2017 including Juni 3,772,418 pax, that is a 39.7 % increase over the same period in 2016.

Off season grows faster than season (Juni, July and August)
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:47 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
Statistics for Helsinki and Copenhagen (January - June 2017)

Helsinki
9,034,244 (+8.6%)

Copenhagen
13,704,859 (+2.3%)

I didn't find statistics for Stockholm Arlanda.



First half of 2017 for CPH is 14 020 825, seems like you took the number from 2016.

https://www.cph.dk/en/about-cph/press/n ... june-2017/

June 2017 numbers for OSL can be found from the XLSX-file here:

https://avinor.no/konsern/om-oss/trafik ... statistikk

And for ARN here:

https://www.swedavia.se/om-swedavia/statistik/

(I would post but not able to open the file at the moment)
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:49 pm

Top 10 non-European countries by passengers from Helsinki (January - June 2017)
In the first half of 2017, HEL sees huge growth on intercontinental flights:

Japan
298,543 (+9.4%)

China
219,711 (+16.0%)

Thailand
190,463 (+8.3%)

United States
132,405 (-1.2%)

Hong Kong
100,527 (+17.0%)

South Korea
95,732 (+15.5%)

Singapore
78,479 (+20.0%)

United Arab Emirates
55,753 (+5.5%)

India
48,452 (+11.0%)

Qatar
43,715 (No fligths to Qatar in Jan-Jun 2016; fligths commenced on 10 October 2016)
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC
AY, BA, DL, FH, LH, LO
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:48 pm

Jan-Jun 2017 statistics

Copenhagen (CPH)
14,020,825 (+2.3%)

Helsinki (HEL)
9,034,244 (+8.6%)

Oslo (OSL)
13,203,877 (+7.3%)

Stockholm (ARN)
10,077,377 (+11%)
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC
AY, BA, DL, FH, LH, LO
A320, A321, A333, 752, 764, 772, 787
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:27 pm

This time you took the international pax numbers, in total it's actually:

12.817.065 (+9%) for ARN

I know CPH had a strong year last year, but interesting figures nonetheless.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:39 pm

Nami wrote:
This time you took the international pax numbers, in total it's actually:

12.817.065 (+9%) for ARN

I know CPH had a strong year last year, but interesting figures nonetheless.

Sorry, my mistake.
I guess CPH will pass the milestone of 30 million passengers this year.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:09 pm

Trondheim Vaernes will get an Avanti Air F100 tonight, with Dundalk FC on board for the Champions League qualifier later this week:

http://footballcharters.blogspot.com/20 ... -2017.html
 
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Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:38 am

SK1042 ARN-KRN (LN-RPW) delayed, new aircraft (LN-RRP), old one got dented at the mid right cargo bay door, presumably by the bag tossers. Is that why ARN baggage handling used to be called "krossen" (the crusher) back in the days?

It's my flight so hence newsworthy ;)


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SK1042 20 Jul
Stockholm (ARN) 12:55
- Kiruna (KRN) 14:25

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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:24 pm

Nami wrote:
HEL in June 2017

Domestic: 184 627 (-5.8%)
International: 1 564 478 (+12.4%)
Total: 1 749 105 (+10.1%)

Domestic decrease is partly explained by OUL being closed due to renovation.


HEL-OUL is like 40% - if not more - of the whole domestic passenger market from HEL so I'm more surprised that the drop wasn't even bigger. With current trends, I wouldn't be surprised to see domestic passenger traffic records happening in the autumn once everyone is back from their holidays and HEL-OUL is back at full schedule.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:22 pm

Some key points from a recent interview with Finnair CEO Pekka Vauramo:

    - The airline has analyzed the situation within the company regarding narrow-body order
    - No need to hurry, availability is good and financing easily obtainable
    - Two possible suppliers (big surprise)
    - AY has so far received four of the eight leased A321s, three more by the end of year and the last one in 2018

    - Finnair still has the option to change some orders to A350-1000, first one could be delivered around 2021
    - No reason not to keep the A330s that were originally supposed to be replaced by A350s

    - Morning flights to LHR with A350 have sold well as the word of the used aircraft has spread
    - Flights to KEF have sold very well, wide-body on the route possible, but they are already utilized
    - If tourism to Lapland keeps growing, wide-body could fly to RVN, most likely as part of PEK-HEL-RVN
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:26 pm

JetBuddy wrote:
Martin Langaas (Manager Cargo Department at Avinor) is seeking 800 million NOK in investments for a new cargo terminal at OSL, which will be the world's largest seafood terminal. The increase in seafood freight has been 10% yearly, and the terminal capacity has been increased by 102% the last year alone by adding new freighters and increasing weekly departures. The increase in seafood cargo is expected to be 500% the next 30 years.

Norway is the largest air cargo market in the Nordics, with 50% of all freight being flown through the country.

"A freighter aircraft carries about 100-130 tons of seafood. But most people aren't aware that every time they fly to Thailand, Los Angeles or Tokyo, 10 tons of Norwegian salmon is carried in the cargo hold", says Langaas.

Norwegian salmon is the largest single cargo product in Europe. 600 tons of Norwegian salmon is flown daily to destinations in Asia, Africa and North-America.

The new automated seafood center will become the world's largest seafood terminal, and the world's first seafood center of it's kind. It will have the capacity of 300,000 tons of seafood yearly, meaning about 1600 tons every day. It will be able to handle 160 trucks daily, and feed two cargo aircraft hourly.

In Norwegian: Hegnar/Finansavisen/Dagbladet:
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/vil-byg ... n/68493506


Unfortunately Turkish Airlines has no B757 to haul sufficient Fish from Norway :lol:

Turkish Cargo launched 2 weekly flights to OSL in March due to Norways increasing Fish exports. Afaik OSL can sustain much more Freighter flights.
Occasionally Turkish Airlines sends WB aircraft to OSL due to excess demand.

On a sidenote, I have been told, the legendary Fish-Sandwiches 'Balık-Ekmek' sold from boats at the Golden Horn in Istanbul are not always fish from Marmara or Black Sea. Its mostly mackerel from Norway :rotfl:
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:55 pm

Looks like BA will send 2x daily 767s to ARN during W17. Flight numbers BA778/779 (new 767 flight) and 780/781.
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Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:14 pm

The 11th A350 for Finnair has a special Marimekko livery "Kivet", the minimalistic pattern is originally from 1956. OH-LWL will be delivered in September.

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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:00 pm

Nami wrote:
Some key points from a recent interview with Finnair CEO Pekka Vauramo:

    - The airline has analyzed the situation within the company regarding narrow-body order
    - No need to hurry, availability is good and financing easily obtainable
    - Two possible suppliers (big surprise)
    - AY has so far received four of the eight leased A321s, three more by the end of year and the last one in 2018

    - Finnair still has the option to change some orders to A350-1000, first one could be delivered around 2021
    - No reason not to keep the A330s that were originally supposed to be replaced by A350s

    - Morning flights to LHR with A350 have sold well as the word of the used aircraft has spread
    - Flights to KEF have sold very well, wide-body on the route possible, but they are already utilized
    - If tourism to Lapland keeps growing, wide-body could fly to RVN, most likely as part of PEK-HEL-RVN



Whole article in Finnish here: http://www.lentoposti.fi/uutiset/finnai ... sen_kanssa

What do we think; A320neo or 737 max? Airbus would make more sense in many ways, but is the 737 max still better on costs?

AY to my understanding has 4 stored A340s, couldn't they lease them on wards or utilize them? AY could grow at a even bigger and still feasible rate but seems to be limited by the airport and investors. The A359 im sure is good for them, but without a doubt they could utilise a A351 on their routes and still make it profitable.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:01 pm

I found a news which is kinda interesting. It is published in 2016.

DFW Airport tweaking incentives to lure more international flights

"The airport wants more service to Europe, where it only currently has four nonstop flights. Dublin, Munich, Helsinki and Berlin are on the airport’s target list, as well as Nagoya, Melbourne, Addis Ababa and Nairobi in other parts of the globe."

It's interesting they mention Helsinki instead of Copenhagen, Oslo or Stockholm. They don't have plans for CPH, OSL or ARN? Is that because HEL is a Oneworld hub, just like DFW? Are they planning to connect DFW to India via Helsinki? There might be enough O/D traffic if they want a service to Helsinki. It would be great to see a service to DFW. Maybe Finnair would launch this route, if not AA.
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC
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Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:56 am

QuawerAir wrote:
I found a news which is kinda interesting. It is published in 2016.

DFW Airport tweaking incentives to lure more international flights

"The airport wants more service to Europe, where it only currently has four nonstop flights. Dublin, Munich, Helsinki and Berlin are on the airport’s target list, as well as Nagoya, Melbourne, Addis Ababa and Nairobi in other parts of the globe."

It's interesting they mention Helsinki instead of Copenhagen, Oslo or Stockholm. They don't have plans for CPH, OSL or ARN? Is that because HEL is a Oneworld hub, just like DFW? Are they planning to connect DFW to India via Helsinki? There might be enough O/D traffic if they want a service to Helsinki. It would be great to see a service to DFW. Maybe Finnair would launch this route, if not AA.

I forgot the source: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/business/aviation/sky-talk-blog/article98896832.html
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:34 am

sailas wrote:
Nami wrote:
Some key points from a recent interview


Whole article in Finnish here: http://www.lentoposti.fi/uutiset/finnai ... sen_kanssa

What do we think; A320neo or 737 max? Airbus would make more sense in many ways, but is the 737 max still better on costs?


The link was already there.

I think it's pretty much a given that they will go for the A320neo family since it was especially highlighted by the CEO also saying that they hope to have fleet commonality.

Personally I would like to see some A321neo LR aircraft which might help them tap into some not-so-mature markets.


QuawerAir wrote:
There might be enough O/D traffic if they want a service to Helsinki.


What makes you think so? I can't see it as a feasible route for AY.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:34 pm

JetBuddy wrote:
Norwegian salmon is the largest single cargo product in Europe.

What does single cargo product mean precisely? Is crude oil not a single cargo product? Or coal? The port of Rotterdam processes ten of thousands of tons of those commodities daily.

JetBuddy wrote:
600 tons of Norwegian salmon is flown daily to destinations in Asia, Africa and North-America.

Nevertheless a very impressive figure.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:50 pm

Some rarer planes at HEL today due to cruise ship charters, Wamos Air 747-400 and Iberia A340-600 among others.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:17 pm

MartijnNL wrote:
JetBuddy wrote:
Norwegian salmon is the largest single cargo product in Europe.

What does single cargo product mean precisely? Is crude oil not a single cargo product? Or coal? The port of Rotterdam processes ten of thousands of tons of those commodities daily.


He should have said "transported by air"
 
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Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:33 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
There might be enough O/D traffic if they want a service to Helsinki.

Nami wrote:
What makes you think so? I can't see it as a feasible route for AY.

I am quite sure there is a good reason why DFW wants a service to Helsinki. Why would they want a service to HEL for no reason?
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Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:03 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
There might be enough O/D traffic if they want a service to Helsinki.

Nami wrote:
What makes you think so? I can't see it as a feasible route for AY.

I am quite sure there is a good reason why DFW wants a service to Helsinki. Why would they want a service to HEL for no reason?


Most likely because of this:

Instead of offering airlines one- to two-year incentive plans with a flat-dollar amount, the airport wants to offer incentives based on the flight’s distance and type of aircraft used on the route. It also won’t offer an incentive to a new carrier that is adding service to a destination already served by another carrier, Ackerman said.

The new plan would offer $1.50 per available seat mile and a 25 percent bonus if the destination is on the airport’s target list. For example, if an airline launched a 5,195-mile flight to Barcelona with a 226-seat Boeing 787, the airline would receive $2.28 million in incentives, Ackerman said.


Seems like they are trying their best and probably haven't had much luck luring airlines to start other destinations so at the time of that interview they were probably trying to court AY or some other carrier to fly to HEL. Even KLM dropped DFW some years ago.

Without incentives I don't see any possibility of a DFW-HEL. Oneworld is the only connection I can see here, not O&D. I thought it was a universally accepted fact that HEL can only sustain long-haul routes with O&D to BKK and JFK.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:02 pm

Someone83 wrote:
MartijnNL wrote:
JetBuddy wrote:
Norwegian salmon is the largest single cargo product in Europe.

What does single cargo product mean precisely? Is crude oil not a single cargo product? Or coal? The port of Rotterdam processes ten of thousands of tons of those commodities daily.


He should have said "transported by air"


Yes sorry. I meant largest single type of commodity transported by air, or something like that. I was trying to translate an article from Norwegian to English and posting the most interesting bits.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:21 pm

Nami wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
There might be enough O/D traffic if they want a service to Helsinki.


I am quite sure there is a good reason why DFW wants a service to Helsinki. Why would they want a service to HEL for no reason?


Most likely because of this:

Instead of offering airlines one- to two-year incentive plans with a flat-dollar amount, the airport wants to offer incentives based on the flight’s distance and type of aircraft used on the route. It also won’t offer an incentive to a new carrier that is adding service to a destination already served by another carrier, Ackerman said.

The new plan would offer $1.50 per available seat mile and a 25 percent bonus if the destination is on the airport’s target list. For example, if an airline launched a 5,195-mile flight to Barcelona with a 226-seat Boeing 787, the airline would receive $2.28 million in incentives, Ackerman said.


Seems like they are trying their best and probably haven't had much luck luring airlines to start other destinations so at the time of that interview they were probably trying to court AY or some other carrier to fly to HEL. Even KLM dropped DFW some years ago.

Without incentives I don't see any possibility of a DFW-HEL. Oneworld is the only connection I can see here, not O&D. I thought it was a universally accepted fact that HEL can only sustain long-haul routes with O&D to BKK and JFK.


I guess the only way DFW-HEL could work is with AA's 767 or 787; less capacity than AY long haul a/c have. Connection wise this would be great as AA @DFW offers huge amount of connections basically anywhere in the US unlike ORD and JFK which have much more limited amount of connections on AA compared to DFW. We'll see if this will ever materialize.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:29 pm

CAPA wrote in 2014:

    "Finnair sees the Atlantic JBA as a platform for future growth in North America, identifying Chicago, Philadelphia, Miami, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Dallas Fort Worth and Honolulu as opportunities for the addition of profitable new routes."

Will HEL see more flights to North America?

Link: https://centreforaviation.com/insights/analysis/finnair-struggles-to-convert-europe-asia-niche-into-sustainable-profit-as-revenue-outlook-weakens-171344
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:44 pm

FC Kobenhavn will travel to Skopje tomorrow with Maleth-Aero and Rosenborg BK will travel to Glasgow to face Celtic using Danish Air Transport:

http://footballcharters.blogspot.com/20 ... -2017.html
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:01 pm

JetBuddy wrote:
Yes sorry. I meant largest single type of commodity transported by air, or something like that. I was trying to translate an article from Norwegian to English and posting the most interesting bits.

No hard feelings, JetBuddy. It was an interesting read and I am still impressed by the 600 tons of salmon transported daily.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:05 pm

The Swedish Minister for Infrastructure resigned today after the opposition yesterday called for a Motion of no confidence. Not sure if it will affect the proposed aviation tax.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:04 pm

Being reported on HANGAR.NO that DY have leased the Danish Air Transport Mad dog for a year from 18 July 2017.....
Will be great if true...
Any body have any more info...?
Routes..? Base..?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:10 pm

Finnair has an 'extra' A330 at the moment, today one is flying to CPH (AY667/668) for the third time within the past week.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ay667
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:39 pm

SAS took delivery of another A320neo today: SE-ROD

TUGMASTER wrote:
Being reported on HANGAR.NO that DY have leased the Danish Air Transport Mad dog for a year from 18 July 2017.....
Will be great if true...
Any body have any more info...?
Routes..? Base..?


From what I understand, it is more like a back up
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:30 am

traffic data for KEF in June.

June 2017, 930,077 passenger, a 21.8 % increase over June 2016.
Year 2017 including June 3,772,418, a 39.7 % increase over the same time period in 2016.

June and Mai were more transfer passengers than departing or arriving passengers.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:19 am

Helsinki Airport is now carbon-neutral

"It is now official: The carbon footprint of Helsinki Airport is zero and it has received the international Airport Carbon Accreditation (ACA) certificate for this achievement."

Source: https://www.finavia.fi/en/news-room/news/2017/helsinki-airport-is-now-carbonneutral/
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC
AY, BA, DL, FH, LH, LO
A320, A321, A333, 752, 764, 772, 787
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:10 pm

Ethiopian Airlines to change operational aircraft from B787-8 to B787-9 on 1 out of 4 weekly flights on their Addis Ababa-Stockholm-Oslo service as of 01 DEC 2017.
Fan of Aviation. Operational train scheduling is my work.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:34 pm

This is one of those routes that really puzzles me. Granted I've only watched one trip report and the plane seemed hardly even one third full.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:44 am

KEF July stats are being released unusually early, probably because a significant milestone has been reached.
July '17 had 1,099,963 passengers. 22.21% increase from July '16. This is the first time in KEF history that more than one million passengers have gone through in a single month.
Jan-Jul '17 stands at 4,873,352 passengers which is a 35.36% increase from the same period in 2016.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:35 am

ATR-72-600 ES-ATB in full SAS colours. To be operated for SAS by Regional Jet OÜ, which is taking over for JetTime, which cancelled their ATR wetlease ops

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewpho ... icid=10012
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:29 am

Someone83 wrote:
ATR-72-600 ES-ATB in full SAS colours. To be operated for SAS by Regional Jet OÜ, which is taking over for JetTime, which cancelled their ATR wetlease ops

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewpho ... icid=10012

Interesting that they are using Estonian company to operate from them. Perhaps they are cheaper?
Flying high and low
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:00 pm

ARN in July 2017 continued to see strong growth.

Domestic: 358.396 (+5%)
International: 2.217.573 (+10%)
Total: 2.575.969 (+9%)
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:46 pm

GOT experienced healthy growth in July, increasing by 10% from the previous year.

July
Domestic: 79 881 (+0%)
International: 604 372 (+12%)
Total: 684 253 (+10)
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