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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon May 15, 2017 12:52 pm

WOW is announcing KEF-TLV. First flight on 12 September and they will use their first A321 neo for the route 4x weekly.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon May 15, 2017 3:08 pm

April 2017 passenger numbers from Finnish airports below.

HEL
Domestic 231 239 -0,7%
International 1 271 170 +13,9%
Total 1 502 409 +11,4%

All airports in Finland
Domestic 465 565 -0,6%
International 1 342 229 +13,3%
Total 1 807 794 +9,4%

Year to date performance is +7,5% and +7,5% for HEL and all Finnish airports combined respectively.

Source (Finavia):
https://d31tapn71xsu62.cloudfront.net/f ... -fi417.pdf
https://d31tapn71xsu62.cloudfront.net/f ... -fi417.pdf
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon May 15, 2017 3:53 pm

hilram wrote:
Meanwhile, as SAS are getting new A320 neos, they are retiring B736s. Three have left the fleet so far this year:

LN-RPY "Olof Viking" wfu 24th of January 2017
SE-DOR "Elisabeth Viking" wfu 12th of March 2017
LN-RPB "Bure Viking" wfu 14th of April 2017

All aircraft were about 18 years old.


The 600's are going as are A320CEO's, what is replacing the CEO's? because there doesn't appear to be enough NEO's arriving to replace the retirements of both types.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon May 15, 2017 3:59 pm

Kiwirob wrote:
hilram wrote:
Meanwhile, as SAS are getting new A320 neos, they are retiring B736s. Three have left the fleet so far this year:

LN-RPY "Olof Viking" wfu 24th of January 2017
SE-DOR "Elisabeth Viking" wfu 12th of March 2017
LN-RPB "Bure Viking" wfu 14th of April 2017

All aircraft were about 18 years old.


The 600's are going as are A320CEO's, what is replacing the CEO's? because there doesn't appear to be enough NEO's arriving to replace the retirements of both types.


It is just the two worn out A320ceo that was with Spanair that is leaving. SE-RJE/F. The rest is staying
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon May 15, 2017 7:11 pm

lesfalls wrote:
I don't understand why hiring non-finnish speakers is something good for the national carrier of Finland. I can understand if they use foreign crew on flights to Asia but to use them on intra-eu flights then it's like flying Norwegian who uses Estonian crew from HEL.


Already their routes to Spain have (all?) Spanish cabin crews. It looks like this is not a big issue to their Finnish customers usually, the flight attendants know the key words in Finnish. But yes the language can be a problem sometimes, I know an elderly Swedish speaking couple from Finland who miss the times you always got service also in Swedish on Finnair. They understand Finnish but now they worry if they understand everything right on the flight to Spain, they are kind of nervous flyers.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon May 15, 2017 9:40 pm

HELyes wrote:
But yes the language can be a problem sometimes, I know an elderly Swedish speaking couple from Finland who miss the times you always got service also in Swedish on Finnair. They understand Finnish but now they worry if they understand everything right on the flight to Spain, they are kind of nervous flyers.


If Swedish speaking cabin crew is important for them, why not fly with SAS instead? They'll have to change in ARN or CPH, but won't have to worry about not understanding the cabin crew.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Tue May 16, 2017 12:24 am

lesfalls wrote:
HELyes wrote:
In order to be able to grow, we need new personnel. Therefore, during the next years we will recruit and train several hundreds of new Cabin Crew Members, based in Helsinki.


https://rekry.saima.fi/smarthome/open_j ... d=00006810

Good news, AY keep on hiring new people. Not that long ago both official languages Finnish and Swedish were required for those based in HEL, now only English. This could interest Estonians perhaps, a short hop to HEL.

I don't understand why hiring non-finnish speakers is something good for the national carrier of Finland. I can understand if they use foreign crew on flights to Asia but to use them on intra-eu flights then it's like flying Norwegian who uses Estonian crew from HEL.

What I've heard they don't have enough good candidates for FA's. That is one of the reasons for them to loosen the requirements.
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Tue May 16, 2017 7:28 am

Bostrom wrote:
HELyes wrote:
But yes the language can be a problem sometimes, I know an elderly Swedish speaking couple from Finland who miss the times you always got service also in Swedish on Finnair. They understand Finnish but now they worry if they understand everything right on the flight to Spain, they are kind of nervous flyers.


If Swedish speaking cabin crew is important for them, why not fly with SAS instead? They'll have to change in ARN or CPH, but won't have to worry about not understanding the cabin crew.


This senior couple buy package holidays, they just heard from me their flight to Spain will have a Spanish crew. It wont stop them flying, service in Swedish/Finnish just make them more comfortable.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Tue May 16, 2017 8:47 am

HELyes wrote:
Bostrom wrote:
HELyes wrote:
But yes the language can be a problem sometimes, I know an elderly Swedish speaking couple from Finland who miss the times you always got service also in Swedish on Finnair. They understand Finnish but now they worry if they understand everything right on the flight to Spain, they are kind of nervous flyers.


If Swedish speaking cabin crew is important for them, why not fly with SAS instead? They'll have to change in ARN or CPH, but won't have to worry about not understanding the cabin crew.


This senior couple buy package holidays, they just heard from me their flight to Spain will have a Spanish crew. It wont stop them flying, service in Swedish/Finnish just make them more comfortable.


Well, from November on they can also choose SAS, if some tour company will start using them.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Tue May 16, 2017 12:45 pm

Bostrom wrote:
HELyes wrote:
But yes the language can be a problem sometimes, I know an elderly Swedish speaking couple from Finland who miss the times you always got service also in Swedish on Finnair. They understand Finnish but now they worry if they understand everything right on the flight to Spain, they are kind of nervous flyers.


If Swedish speaking cabin crew is important for them, why not fly with SAS instead? They'll have to change in ARN or CPH, but won't have to worry about not understanding the cabin crew.


Last time I flow Finnair there was a Swedish FA but no Finnish speaking FA's, at least in the economy class. Almost all passengers were certainly non-Finnish.

Hence I wonder whether they should instead open more crew bases abroad, also in Europe, e.g. Germany, and hire locals.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Tue May 16, 2017 2:37 pm

Icelandair has painted another special livery on one of their 757s. It's called "Vatnajökull" and looks really nice!

http://www.icelandair.us/vatnajokull/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Wed May 17, 2017 1:50 am

Singapore Airlines will but the B777-300ER on the SIN-CPH-SIN route from October 31th
This means first class will return to CPH

http://www.check-in.dk/cph-faar-igen-fo ... sses-rute/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Wed May 17, 2017 3:16 am

According to Airlineroute, SAS will in summer 2018 reduce CPH-MIA to 2 weekly, instead of 4 weekly in S17. OSL-MIA will operate 1 weekly instead of 3 weekly.
Fan of Aviation. Operational train scheduling is my work.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu May 18, 2017 12:59 pm

More freighter capacity at OSL. Turkish is increasing from 2x to 3x weekly by adding a Sunday flight from June 4th. All with A332F
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Sun May 21, 2017 7:16 am

Wednesday 24 May2017 will be an interesting day for Stockholm's airports, with plenty of football charters from the UK (Manchester United) and NL (Amsterdam AJAX):

Here are some of the charter flights from NL:

- arr. 10.45 ZI941F A320 F-HBIX
- arr. 11.00 CND9331 B738 PH-CDF
- arr. 11.20 CAI9787 B738 TC-TJM
- arr. 11.30 QS4376 B738 OK-TVV
- arr. 11.45 KRP3004 F100 YR-FKB
- arr. 11.55 CAI9775 B738 TC-TJI
- arr. 12.00 KRP3002 F100 YR-FKA
- arr. 13.00 QS4400 B738 OK-TVM
- arr. 13.15 KRP2504 F100 YR-FZA
- arr. 15.30 PLM8002 B744 EC-KXN
- arr. 14.00 PLM8008 B744 EC-KSM
- arr. 13.35 SS834 B744 F-HSUN
- arr. 14.40 ZI941 A320 F-HBIO
- arr. XX.XX SS804 A333 F-HZEN
- arr. 15.00 DX2171 MD83 OY-RUE
- arr. 15.35 JTG825 B733 OY-JTD
- arr. 16.10 QS4352 B738 OK-TVB
- arr. 17.35 ZT3201 A320 G-POWK
- arr. 18.00 CND9333 B738 PH-CDE
- arr. 18.30 QS4378 B738 OK-TVV
- arr. Xx.xx LG7641 B738 LX-LGU

Departures will be the next day 25 May 2017 early night and day.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Sun May 21, 2017 10:35 am

factsonly wrote:
Wednesday 24 May2017 will be an interesting day for Stockholm's airports, with plenty of football charters from the UK (Manchester United) and NL (Amsterdam AJAX):

Here are some of the charter flights from NL:


Thank you for the list! I hope I'll be able to visit Arlanda with my camera. It will be a very interesting day indeed, runway 8/26 will be closed and used for parking. And how the terminals will handle three 747s, in addition to the regular long hauls, will be interesting to see.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon May 22, 2017 3:26 am

Monarch expands Lapland service

British airline Monarch will double the number of its flights to Kittilä and open a new route during the 2017–2018 winter season.

Monarch will fly twice a week from London Gatwick to Kittilä in December–February, as it did last winter.

Monarch will also fly twice a week from Manchester to Kittilä, starting from December, as it did last winter, but the route will be extended until 20 February.

Birmingham–Kittilä will be a whole new route. Monarch will fly on this new route twice a week starting from December until the beginning of 2018.


Sources:
http://blog.monarch.co.uk/monarch-launc ... irmingham/
https://www.finavia.fi/en/news-room/new ... om-the-uk/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon May 22, 2017 6:04 am

fessor wrote:
Singapore Airlines will but the B777-300ER on the SIN-CPH-SIN route from October 31th
This means first class will return to CPH

http://www.check-in.dk/cph-faar-igen-fo ... sses-rute/

Great news for CPH travelers, but is there really a true demand for 1st class on that route?
Won't most of the 1st class seats be occupied by people upgrading from business?
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon May 22, 2017 7:25 am

OSL want to demolished the old terminal, noe used for GA traffic, i order to expand their cargo capacity
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Mon May 22, 2017 12:59 pm

Anothet 737-600 leaving the SAS fleet

Boeing 737 -683 28309 368 LN-RRR SAS ferried 22may17 ARN-DGX for part-out & scrap
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Wed May 24, 2017 5:18 pm

Air Iceland (NY) is rebranding as Air Iceland Connect and dropping the Icelandic name Flugfélag Íslands which has been used domestically. The reasons cited are possible confusion for foreigners and trying to distinguish the airline more from Icelandair. I guess this was only a matter of time but it is sort of sad to see the Icelandic name go since it has an 80 year old history in Icelandic aviation.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Wed May 24, 2017 5:27 pm

hvusslax wrote:
Air Iceland (NY) is rebranding as Air Iceland Connect and dropping the Icelandic name Flugfélag Íslands which has been used domestically. The reasons cited are possible confusion for foreigners and trying to distinguish the airline more from Icelandair. I guess this was only a matter of time but it is sort of sad to see the Icelandic name go since it has an 80 year old history in Icelandic aviation.


Why just not call it Icelandair Connect or Express or something? As the two airline belongs to the same group
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Wed May 24, 2017 8:16 pm

May 25th, 2017 - Quite a special day for Arlanda:

= 19x departures to MAN and 21x to AMS:

MANCHESTER:
- 00:45 Manchester SU70955
- 01:00 Manchester PVG54445
- 01:00 Manchester TDR2535
- 01:00 Manchester VBB71015
- 01:15 Manchester MT96475
- 01:30 Manchester QS30535
- 01:30 Manchester QS30415
- 01:45 Manchester PVG67725
- 01:45 Manchester S532125
- 01:50 Manchester M480335
- 02:05 Manchester EVE63525
- 02:20 Manchester ENT5025
- 03:00 Manchester TB94445 Cancelled
- 03:05 Manchester QS34015
- 03:30 Manchester QS24415
- 07:35 Manchester SK25475
- 15:00 Manchester QS24395
- 15:50 Manchester P736855
- 16:20 Manchester SK25495
- 19:10 Manchester ZB37555

and AMSTERDAM:
- 02:05 Amsterdam OR74724
- 02:05 Amsterdam CRL8354 Cancelled
- 04:00 Amsterdam CAI97844
- 04:30 Amsterdam PLM81084
- 05:00 Amsterdam CND97324
- 06:30 Amsterdam KL11062
- 08:15 Amsterdam SK15535
- 09:20 Amsterdam DY45295
- 09:35 Amsterdam KL11042
- 11:15 Amsterdam KL11082
- 11:45 Amsterdam CND97725
- 12:30 Amsterdam ZT32025
- 12:40 Amsterdam CND93365
- 13:00 Amsterdam PLM81025
- 13:35 Amsterdam KL11102
- 16:15 Amsterdam SK15555
- 17:20 Amsterdam QS43792
- 17:35 Amsterdam KL11162
- 18:30 Amsterdam JTG8265
- 18:30 Amsterdam DY45315
- 19:50 Amsterdam KL11182
- 20:40 Amsterdam CND9774
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation Part 5

Thu May 25, 2017 4:00 pm

Someone83 wrote:
hvusslax wrote:
Air Iceland (NY) is rebranding as Air Iceland Connect and dropping the Icelandic name Flugfélag Íslands which has been used domestically. The reasons cited are possible confusion for foreigners and trying to distinguish the airline more from Icelandair. I guess this was only a matter of time but it is sort of sad to see the Icelandic name go since it has an 80 year old history in Icelandic aviation.


Why just not call it Icelandair Connect or Express or something? As the two airline belongs to the same group


That might have made more sense. "Air Iceland Connect" is such a cumbersome and uninspired name that I can't see it lasting for long. If Flugfélag Íslands was a mouthful for foreigners they could at least have tried to find an easier Icelandic name. But I guess Icelanders will simply continue to use the old name like a lot of people (older generations mostly) still call Icelandair Flugleiðir.

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