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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:55 pm

F9Animal wrote:
Well, that might just end his flying days. Certainly not good news.

This certainly won't end his flying days as long as:
1) His actions were not deliberate, and
2) He files an ASRS report within 24 hours, which I would think he did.


wn676 wrote:
LiveATC cuts the audio just as AA1456 is starting to taxi after pushback, but this is the instruction from the tower:

Twr: "American 1456...turn right there at Lima, cross runway 20L, traffic's on a mile and a half base, a Liberty, runway 20R, line up and wait."

Not sure what happened after that obviously. Curious to know more as it seems the information we're all looking for is missing.

Agreed.


IPFreely wrote:
That transcript creates more questions than it answers. What really isn't clear is if the landing traffic is landing on 20L or 20R. The phrase "traffic's on a mile and a half base, a Liberty, runway 20R" implies there is traffic landing on 20R. But lining up and waiting on 20R makes no sense if there's a plane landing on 20R. If the plane is landing on 20L I would expect some instruction to expedite the crossing of 20L. Harrison Ford has already been found guilty by the online message board investigators but there may actually be more to the story than a private pilot blundering into airspace beyond his skill level.

Agreed.


planeophilic wrote:
Ford is losing his brain screws. He narrowly escaped death in a crash less than a year ago- and now this.

He successfully executed an off-airport landing in an urban environment after an engine failure.

planeophilic wrote:
I mean WHO THE HELL MISTAKES A TAXIWAY FOR A RUNWAY.

1) Plenty of people including highly experienced airline crews in incidents at ATL and EWR.
2) 20L at SNA does not have piano keys, therefore it lacks standard runway markings. But lets not let facts get in the way of armchair A.net incident investigating.
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:58 pm

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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:33 pm

GoSteelers wrote:
The tower controller is giving two separate instructions. What he is saying to the AA is: cross R20L, traffic is on base. Then, R20R, line up and wait. It's very typical phraseology.


Correct. And since the "line up and wait" instruction to the AA plane means taxi onto the runway and wait until cleared to take off, the tower wouldn't have cleared Ford to land on 20R as well.
 
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:43 pm

flyingcat wrote:
TMZ has now posted a photo clearly showing Harrison Ford landing on the taxiway Charlie so this is no longer an allegation but a confirmed incursion.

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http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/16/harrison-ford-plane-landing-photo/

Bottom line is if he thought there was an issue he would/should have gone around but at the time seems to have thought he was landing on the runway. Even if this was true why did he not go around if he though an incursion was occurring with the AA 737


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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:52 am

F9Animal wrote:
flyingcat wrote:
TMZ has now posted a photo clearly showing Harrison Ford landing on the taxiway Charlie so this is no longer an allegation but a confirmed incursion.

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http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/16/harrison-ford-plane-landing-photo/

Bottom line is if he thought there was an issue he would/should have gone around but at the time seems to have thought he was landing on the runway. Even if this was true why did he not go around if he though an incursion was occurring with the AA 737


Oh!!! Look at the ramp rat!!! LOL!!! He clearly has a WTF expression!


It's at about this point in time, Harrison is thinking out loud, "WTF, where'd the taxiway go?!?!"
 
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:04 am

wn676 wrote:
greg3322 wrote:
I heard some of the ATC audio on another site and Ford was cleared to land on 1L and the AA 737 was holding at taxiway D-B, the southernmost entrance to 1L on the west side. Perhaps his base-to-final turn was right at the numbers and he overflew the 737? I read he landed on a taxiway, but I am not sure there is any evidence to support that. One of the AA pilots did complain that the aircraft flew over him by 25 feet and the tower asked if the aircraft clipped the tail of the 737.


That audio is likely a fake since there hasn't been a 1L at SNA in over two years. And it appears to have been posted by ATC Memes, which should tell you all you need to know.

LiveATC cuts the audio just as AA1456 is starting to taxi after pushback, but this is the instruction from the tower:

Twr: "American 1456...turn right there at Lima, cross runway 20L, traffic's on a mile and a half base, a Liberty, runway 20R, line up and wait."

Not sure what happened after that obviously. Curious to know more as it seems the information we're all looking for is missing.


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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:28 am

Must be pleasant to be a public figure and have everything you do scrutinized by a bunch of avgeeks.

Will be interesting to see how this turns out. I'm just glad nobody was hurt and he's still with us.
 
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:36 am

planeophilic wrote:
I mean WHO THE HELL MISTAKES A TAXIWAY FOR A RUNWAY.

Alaska Airlines pilots:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /78056520/

Delta Airlines pilot:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/21/georgi ... eref=ib_us

Never mind landing on a taxiway, sometimes the land at the wrong airport entirely!
http://wjla.com/news/videos/boeing-747- ... nsas-97158
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/09/us/delta- ... orce-base/
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/travel/wr ... southwest/
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:02 am

At least the aircraft he was flying can land on pretty much anything relatively flat and longer than a car or two.
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:11 am

planeophilic wrote:
Ford is losing his brain screws. He narrowly escaped death in a crash less than a year ago- and now this.
I mean WHO THE HELL MISTAKES A TAXIWAY FOR A RUNWAY.

The old man's mind has gone the way of his recent movie choices: loony and un- explainable.
The FAA should take his license away before he gets somebody killed.

Sorry, but have you read the airliner pilots mistakenly landing at wrong runway (google the Seattle incident)? Have you read several incidents when pilots landed at wrong airport? Do you know how many hours they have when it happens? And do you know they were multi-crew, at least 2 people in the cockpit?

So please, we are humans, we make mistake, not just him. Once I almost landed at wrong airport because my destination was so close to a much larger airport and I am unfamiliar with the area. I only realize when I double check before landing.

/Wow, somebody already posted the links I mentioned above.
 
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:19 am

flyPIT wrote:
2) 20L at SNA does not have piano keys, therefore it lacks standard runway markings. But lets not let facts get in the way of armchair A.net incident investigating.


Assuming that 20L is a visual runway and only designated for AAC A/B, then threshold markings technically aren't required. For similar reasons, it also lacks aiming point and touchdown zone markings. If I could speculate further for a moment, maybe that's a contributing factor here.
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:49 am

Appears I have torched a lot of fanboys here.
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Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:54 am

I can't believe he is still flying. Celebrity or not he had a serious incident and the FAA should automatically suspend anyone who has an incident like this until the investigation is over. What if he does it again? The FAA is a joke.
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:41 am

planeophilic wrote:
Appears I have torched a lot of fanboys here.


Nah, it just appears that you like to flap your gums without knowing much of what you're talking about. People have already explained and demonstrated that this runway doesn't have standard markings, provided you with links showing other similar incidents, and offered reasoned takes on why this might have happened. But because last year he executed a successful forced landing after losing an engine, and now has been involved in an incident which is likely mitigated by an ASRS report, you're screaming for his license to be taken away? While the FAA might be justified in taking some enforcement action, that's a little extreme.
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:01 am

planeophilic wrote:
Appears I have torched a lot of fanboys here.


Or perhaps just insulted a bunch of aviation professionals who see things a bit less critically and a bit more graciously.
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:26 am

The only thing I can think he believed AA was holding short of 20R when they were in fact holding short of 20L. How familiar was he with SNA? He lives in the area but there are some airports near me I'm surprised when I update my logbook it has been 5 or 10 years since I was there last. If he hadn't been there in awhile he might not have been getting the visual clue to shatter his confirmation bias if he believed AA was short of 20R. Taxiway C appeared to be 20L if that his mindset. Not a good airport to get this wrong at unfortunately.
 
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:34 am

planeophilic wrote:
Appears I have torched a lot of fanboys here.


Nah, the only thing torched around here is your credibility. :wink2:
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:54 am

Moose135 wrote:
planeophilic wrote:
I mean WHO THE HELL MISTAKES A TAXIWAY FOR A RUNWAY.

Alaska Airlines pilots:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /78056520/

Delta Airlines pilot:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/21/georgi ... eref=ib_us

Never mind landing on a taxiway, sometimes the land at the wrong airport entirely!
http://wjla.com/news/videos/boeing-747- ... nsas-97158
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/09/us/delta- ... orce-base/
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/travel/wr ... southwest/


+ KLM-pilots, even at their home base: http://avherald.com/h?article=4272f72c

aaah, and the unfortunate pilots that crashed one of my favorite rarities when trying to take off from a taxiway that turned out to be too short...

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Source: https://aviation-safety.net/database/re ... -1&lang=de

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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:57 am

planeophilic wrote:
Ford is losing his brain screws. He narrowly escaped death in a crash less than a year ago- and now this.
I mean WHO THE HELL MISTAKES A TAXIWAY FOR A RUNWAY.

The old man's mind has gone the way of his recent movie choices: loony and un- explainable.
The FAA should take his license away before he gets somebody killed.


The crash at SMO was due to engine failure and he ended up landing safely on a golf course. Takes a bit of skill and quick thinking to safely land a plane shortly after take off with unexpected engine failure! Especially in a congested area with few places to land like Los Angeles!!
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:03 am

Aesma wrote:
At least the aircraft he was flying can land on pretty much anything relatively flat and longer than a car or two.


Exactly, thankfully that thing can be landed on a semi-trailer if need be! :-)
 
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:12 pm

dennypayne wrote:
planeophilic wrote:
Appears I have torched a lot of fanboys here.


Nah, it just appears that you like to flap your gums without knowing much of what you're talking about. People have already explained and demonstrated that this runway doesn't have standard markings, provided you with links showing other similar incidents, and offered reasoned takes on why this might have happened. But because last year he executed a successful forced landing after losing an engine, and now has been involved in an incident which is likely mitigated by an ASRS report, you're screaming for his license to be taken away? While the FAA might be justified in taking some enforcement action, that's a little extreme.


Absolutely none of those incidents had a Big, tall Boeing 737 parked at the threshold, did they? Is it not piloting 101 that if you see an Airplane at the threshold of the 'Runway', you do a go- around, right?
Those are the links that you folks provided, not me.
Oh, and here is an excerpt from the Sea- Tac incident report:
While nobody was hurt in the incident at Sea-Tac, had another plane been parked on the taxiway, the results could have been catastrophic.


Exactly what happened with Ford, right?
Also, hundreds of runways around the world are devoid of piano keys. I scarcely hear pilots mistaking them for Taxiways, or vice versa.
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Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:13 pm

scbriml wrote:
planeophilic wrote:
Appears I have torched a lot of fanboys here.


Nah, the only thing torched around here is your credibility. :wink2:


Absolutely none of those incidents had a Big, tall Boeing 737 parked at the threshold, did they? Is it not piloting 101 that if you see an Airplane at the threshold of the 'Runway', you do a go- around, right?
Those are the links that you folks provided, not me.
Oh, and here is an excerpt from the Sea- Tac incident report:
While nobody was hurt in the incident at Sea-Tac, had another plane been parked on the taxiway, the results could have been catastrophic.



Exactly what happened with Ford, right?
Also, hundreds of runways around the world are devoid of piano keys. I scarcely hear pilots mistaking them for Taxiways, or vice versa.
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:41 pm

777PHX wrote:
As far as anyone can tell, the only person that made an error here was Harrison Ford. I wouldn't be so quick to vindicate him. He screwed up.


Not in the other incidents. Mechanical failure in both situations where Ford did a good job getting down in one piece. The papers are making it sound like he was at fault in those instances too.

As for this one, yes, it looks likes he screwed up. I never said anything contrary to that.
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Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:54 pm

PlanesNTrains wrote:
planeophilic wrote:
Appears I have torched a lot of fanboys here.


Or perhaps just insulted a bunch of aviation professionals who see things a bit less critically and a bit more graciously.


Yes, ands some of those aviation professionals even have the nerve to wait/call for more evidence and facts before taking a (strong) position. How dare they!

Speaking from experience, in these days of Trumpism and Brexitism where alternate facts are apparently good enough to publically lynch (aviation) professionals and call them all "a fake", taking a step back and wait for reliable facts and official reports is increasingly considered by many as retarded.
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:12 pm

m0ssy wrote:
Must be pleasant to be a public figure and have everything you do scrutinized by a bunch of avgeeks.

Will be interesting to see how this turns out. I'm just glad nobody was hurt and he's still with us.


He mistook a taxiway for a runway on a perfect sunny day with the best visibility possible. Flew over a commercial aircraft and was lucky there wasn't another taxing out for departure. It's not hard to scrutinize how that is a major problem and needs to be addressed since his age and doing it again could kill a lot of people. You don't have to be a pilot with 10,000 hours to see how celebrity or not he should be investigated.
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:47 pm

Obviously he was a clear and present danger to what lies beneath. I know he is presumed innocent but I don't want to be a witness when he turn his Husky into a widowmaker and that becomes his ender's game...
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:11 pm

avi8tir wrote:
planeophilic wrote:
Ford is losing his brain screws. He narrowly escaped death in a crash less than a year ago- and now this.
I mean WHO THE HELL MISTAKES A TAXIWAY FOR A RUNWAY.

The old man's mind has gone the way of his recent movie choices: loony and un- explainable.
The FAA should take his license away before he gets somebody killed.


The crash at SMO was due to engine failure and he ended up landing safely on a golf course. Takes a bit of skill and quick thinking to safely land a plane shortly after take off with unexpected engine failure! Especially in a congested area with few places to land like Los Angeles!!


Exactly.

In fact didn't they just make a movie about such an event, and in that situation call the crew heros?

But by all means, let's call for his head.

:sarcastic:
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:01 pm

When a doctor removes a kidney from the wrong patient or a dentist removes the wrong molar, do we excuse it away as a professional having a momentary brain fart? We explore the possibility of a practitioner who's professionalism could be called into question. Which is what should be done here.
 
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:37 pm

Actually, the standards of criminal law do not apply. FAA will likely proceed with violations which fall under administrative law. When FAA violates a pilot, he's presumed guilty unless he/she can prove innocence or sufficient mitigation to explain the actions. I would hope that Ford retains an experienced aviation lawyer.
 
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:51 pm

HOMER71 wrote:
Obviously he was a clear and present danger to what lies beneath. I know he is presumed innocent but I don't want to be a witness when he turn his Husky into a widowmaker and that becomes his ender's game...


Best post I've read in a while :D

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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:54 pm

Aptivaboy wrote:
Now jokes aside,
Oh, I think we can come up with a lot of jokes for this one! :D

HOMER71 wrote:
Obviously he was a clear and present danger to what lies beneath. I know he is presumed innocent but I don't want to be a witness when he turn his Husky into a widowmaker and that becomes his ender's game...

You should have warned us:

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Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:48 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
m0ssy wrote:
Must be pleasant to be a public figure and have everything you do scrutinized by a bunch of avgeeks.

Will be interesting to see how this turns out. I'm just glad nobody was hurt and he's still with us.


He mistook a taxiway for a runway on a perfect sunny day with the best visibility possible. Flew over a commercial aircraft and was lucky there wasn't another taxing out for departure. It's not hard to scrutinize how that is a major problem and needs to be addressed since his age and doing it again could kill a lot of people. You don't have to be a pilot with 10,000 hours to see how celebrity or not he should be investigated.


You didn't read what I wrote. I never said he shouldn't be investigated. My point was, this is a message board. While there are aviation experts here, this is not a place where a screenshot should determine his future. The FAA has a job to do, so let them do it. My real point is, If this wasn't Harrison Ford or some other celeb, nobody here would remember in two days.

I just find it strange that on an aviation enthusiast site people are calling for all his credentials to be stripped, almost out of pure spite and jealousy, as if his intentions were malicious.

Because of disabilities in my life, I will likely never get the experience of being a pilot, therefore I'm not openly rooting for any pilot to get their license taken away over a possible misunderstanding, especially with missing information and an incomplete story.
 
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Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:07 pm

I'm also disabled (partially) so I hope you know I was just joking around with the redone movie quotes. There's nothing wrong with having some lighthearted fun. I will agree that the incident will be fully investigated by the FAA, and I'm sure whatever ever determination they make will be proper. In the meantime, in the age of internet memes and so forth, you're going to see some funny quotes and captioned pictures. The Indiana Jones quote is pretty funny when applied to this situation.

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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:11 am

Just found this video of the incident in question:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-shows- ... 35395.html
 
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Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:32 am

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PlanesNTrains wrote:
planeophilic wrote:
Appears I have torched a lot of fanboys here.


Or perhaps just insulted a bunch of aviation professionals who see things a bit less critically and a bit more graciously.


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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:52 am

There's now a good quality video from two angles linked on TMZ.
 
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:09 am

Surely if an aircraft is on the runway (or appears to be in a position where you'll overfly it) wouldn't it be prudent to go around?
 
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:53 pm

Watching the vid on liveleak. Way to go FAA let him keep flying then again they let the captain of Colgan 3407 keep flying after they were warned why not let Han Solo?
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Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:44 pm

The A Net Galactic Empire has spoken. Solo shall be encased in carbonite for his FAA violation. Seriously, the FAA shall investigate as per its mandate and levy the appropriate penalty. Incursions such as this happen on a regular basis with even more disastrous results. Commentary on this site is based on speculation as in most if not all cases the facts are not available. If anything the profile of the pilot involved heightens awareness of these type of occurrences/incursions. Pilots and professionals will use this as an example of what not to do and emphasize the point of situational awareness and incursions. That 's why there are tons and tons of publications that discuss flight safety issues, not to assign blame but to understand the factors that led up to the occurrence/accident.
 
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:11 pm

Sorry Han. Time to hang up the wings.

I was in the transient area at KMYF several years ago when a guy in a Cessna jet was obviously lost and confused trying to find the airport. After a couple of circuits around the local area trying to figure it out, he finally reported being on final when the tower called him and almost yelled, "Sir, you're lined up on a TAXIWAY!" He executed an improvised missed approach, headed 90 degrees perpendicular to the 27 he was supposed to be landing on. I have no idea how that guy makes it through the day, let alone flying a jet.

Edit: KMYF is also the airport where a student F-18 pilot from MCAS Miramar (just several miles north with runways on a similar heading as KMYF's) tried to land one night. Had he done so, he would have gone off the end, through the fence, across a freeway, and into an In N Out.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:10 pm

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

Article quote:

"“I’m the schmuck who landed on the taxiway,' Ford told the tower shortly after touching down in his single-engine Aviat Husky on Feb. 13. 'I was distracted by the airliner in moving when I turned into the runway and the wake turbulence by the Airbus.'"
 
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Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:29 am

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The above pic of SNA is so fake it is laughable.


Are you saying the mountain is not south of the runways, next to the beaches? :)
 
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:29 pm

Landing on a taxiway, though rare, is a blunder that both Part 91 and 121 pilots have committed over the years. Confusion is not usually age-related. However after listening to several ATC excerpts of Harrison Ford interacting with SoCal approach and John Wayne tower there are some "wow" moments.

Case-in-point: While transitioning the LAX Special Flight Rules VFR corridor Ford takes an unusual amount of time to decide whether he is flying a fixed-wing Husky or a Bell Jet Ranger rotorcraft. Stuttering and stammering he finally chooses the correct flying machine to announce to SoCal approach. But in the TMZ link of the Harrison Ford schmuck interaction with a John Wayne tower operator- which was eerily more like a polite California Highway Patrol officer and a confused, nervous driver attempting locate anything in the vehicle that resembles a license- Harrison Ford sounded every bit of 74-years-of-age. Even older airmen can give their ATP or FEJ or ground instructor certificate numbers off the top of their heads. In contrast, Harrison Ford fumbled around for an interminable amount of time in his backpack to come up with a Temporary Airman Certificate, a mystery in itself. One can hear him breathlessly scouring his backpack; let's see, flare gun, MRE survival pack, script for my next movie...

Most likely this too shall pass. But Harrison Ford is clearly not a young pilot if these audio transcripts are any indication.
 
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:48 pm

rbavfan wrote:
rlwynn wrote:
The above pic of SNA is so fake it is laughable.


Are you saying the mountain is not south of the runways, next to the beaches? :)

No, but Catalina Island is visable. Picture is not fake.
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Re: Harrison Ford in Near Miss at SNA

Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:10 pm

"he Federal Aviation Administration will not pursue enforcement action against actor Harrison Ford after he mistakenly landed a small plane on a taxiway at a Southern California airport, his attorney said.

The veteran actor on February 13 landed his plane on the taxiway of a Santa Ana airport, flying directly over an American Airlines Boeing 737 commercial jet, federal officials said.
In audio recordings, Ford said he was distracted by two jets.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/03/entertain ... index.html"

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