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DLHAM wrote:Did Delta took over the Route in 1991? How long was ist around afterwards?
vfw614 wrote:The larger metropolitan area of Helsinki has roughly the size of European metropolitan areas like Nuremberg, Porto, Sofia or Liverpool. None of these airports have flights to the US, if I am not mistaken. It is also useful to keep in mind that the whole of FInland has less than 6m inhabitants.In short, it is a smallish market and connections from the US make little sense to destinations other than in Finland itself or the Baltics and Russia.
AYVN wrote:Helsinki seems to be perfectly located for Europe-Asia bound traffic but it also seems to be located under USA-ME3 bound traffic. Wonder why HEL and AY/One World has not tried to benefit this location for USA-INDIA/ASIA via HEL. I think that LAX-DBX-DEL would meet nice competition with LAX-HEL-DEL. Speaking of size of market HEL has 4 daily flights to Japan, much more than 6 million Finns themselves need.
AYVN wrote:Helsinki seems to be perfectly located for Europe-Asia bound traffic but it also seems to be located under USA-ME3 bound traffic. Wonder why HEL and AY/One World has not tried to benefit this location for USA-INDIA/ASIA via HEL. I think that LAX-DBX-DEL would meet nice competition with LAX-HEL-DEL.
AYVN wrote:Speaking of size of market HEL has 4 daily flights to Japan, much more than 6 million Finns themselves need.
lesfalls wrote:Norway is barely smaller than Finland. Denmark is bigger and CPH is a big NCL cruise terminal. I've taken two cruises out of there. As others have said, HEL is lousy for European connections since it is so far east. Also, you have to remember that until the USSR fell, Finland was strictly neutral and didn't have as much trade and contact with the west as it does now. It even bought MIG fighters from the USSR. That said, my wife and I walked several miles around HEL and really enjoyed it.[Norway is even smaller then Finland but has even more flights to the U.S. Same story with CPH. If we just went off O&D FRA would barely have as many flights as it does today.
johns624 wrote:lesfalls wrote:Norway is barely smaller than Finland. Denmark is bigger and CPH is a big NCL cruise terminal. I've taken two cruises out of there. As others have said, HEL is lousy for European connections since it is so far east. Also, you have to remember that until the USSR fell, Finland was strictly neutral and didn't have as much trade and contact with the west as it does now. It even bought MIG fighters from the USSR. That said, my wife and I walked several miles around HEL and really enjoyed it.[Norway is even smaller then Finland but has even more flights to the U.S. Same story with CPH. If we just went off O&D FRA would barely have as many flights as it does today.
Clydenairways wrote:PanAm also flew the 707 to HEL back before the A310 days
HELyes wrote:A couple of years back Finnair said they are interested in USA-Asia markets, especially USA-India via HEL looks good on the Great Circle map ... But yes it would great if they found a way to grow in North-America, together with AA perhaps.
lesfalls wrote:vfw614 wrote:The larger metropolitan area of Helsinki has roughly the size of European metropolitan areas like Nuremberg, Porto, Sofia or Liverpool. None of these airports have flights to the US, if I am not mistaken. It is also useful to keep in mind that the whole of FInland has less than 6m inhabitants.In short, it is a smallish market and connections from the US make little sense to destinations other than in Finland itself or the Baltics and Russia.
Porto has flights to EWR while SOF and LPL had flights in the past. Norway is even smaller then Finland but has even more flights to the U.S. Same story with CPH. If we just went off O&D FRA would barely have as many flights as it does today.
DLHAM wrote:Did Delta took over the Route in 1991? How long was ist around afterwards?
Pengaea wrote:HELyes wrote:A couple of years back Finnair said they are interested in USA-Asia markets, especially USA-India via HEL looks good on the Great Circle map ... But yes it would great if they found a way to grow in North-America, together with AA perhaps.
Long time lurker, first time poster. HEL has always fascinated me as a connecting hub. If, for example, AA were to start a scissor hub at HEL with the routes ORD-HEL-DEL and DFW-HEL-BOM, how many planes would each route need? Perhaps that's another reason USA-India via HEL hasn't really been entertained by the airlines.