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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:57 pm

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I'm glad to see this improvement. Looks like 3x777/380 or 3x777/744(presumably high-j). I know a number of people, myself included, who were annoyed by the lack of consistency of the late departure from Logan.


I thought they switched the BA 239 to 787. Isn't that the case anymore?


I think that's only for the winter schedule. I looked at a few dates in June and July around when I anticipate being there and it showed either the 77/74 or 77/38 combo.


They keep rejigging their schedule/capacity to Boston quite a bit. For the coming winter schedule, the 787 is only on the 3-weekly BA 203/202. The last flight of the day to Logan and morning departure from Logan BA239/238 is 747. This increase in capacity for this particular rotation is a bit unusual especially for winter but maybe there is a strong demand for the day flight to London especially as they have moved the arrival times to 18:50, which is pretty decent and still allowing for connections. Another change is that the historical flagship BA 213/212 is 777 instead of 747. This flight has always been the one for connections and it is puzzling that the they have downgauged it to 777 for the winter.
 
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Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:16 pm

I saw that myself re the 74 on the 238/9. Surprising based on the history of the route but not at all from past experience. I almost always return on that flight as customs tends to be light and it affords me most of a day in London to either recover from Saturday's activities or enjoy a few afternoon pints. With the increasing congestion at Logan, I think a lot of people, esp business folks, are keen to arrive as late as possible.
 
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Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:04 pm

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I saw that myself re the 74 on the 238/9. Surprising based on the history of the route but not at all from past experience. I almost always return on that flight as customs tends to be light and it affords me most of a day in London to either recover from Saturday's activities or enjoy a few afternoon pints. With the increasing congestion at Logan, I think a lot of people, esp business folks, are keen to arrive as late as possible.


I agree the timing for 239 is very convenient either for a full day in London or connecting from Europe, which is why I thought it was smart when they put the 787 on it being a newer plane/product, should be more appealing for the business pax.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:37 pm

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I saw that myself re the 74 on the 238/9. Surprising based on the history of the route but not at all from past experience. I almost always return on that flight as customs tends to be light and it affords me most of a day in London to either recover from Saturday's activities or enjoy a few afternoon pints. With the increasing congestion at Logan, I think a lot of people, esp business folks, are keen to arrive as late as possible.


I agree the timing for 239 is very convenient either for a full day in London or connecting from Europe, which is why I thought it was smart when they put the 787 on it being a newer plane/product, should be more appealing for the business pax.


It's the same product other than the age of the plane. I generally don't care whether I'm on the newest 78 or the oldest 74. What I care about, and what I suspect most business travelers care about, isn't the newness of the plane but the consistency of service, hard product and schedule. I could see people who are flying F or J as a special occasion one-off type of thing being wowed by the new plane but I doubt the guy who flies 10-20+ roundtrips cares or even bothers to give it any thought.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:56 am

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As near as I can tell, BA is doing the same thing with their A380 next summer...Fridays, Sundays, and Mondays. However, unlike this year they will operate four flights on those days.


I'm glad to see this improvement. Looks like 3x777/380 or 3x777/744(presumably high-j). I know a number of people, myself included, who were annoyed by the lack of consistency of the late departure from Logan.


I thought they switched the BA 239 to 787. Isn't that the case anymore?


They did last winter, and as the weakest rotation you'd expect 238/239 to use the smallest long haul on that run over the winter. But to my surprise (and maybe no one else's), 238/239 will be a 747 this winter.
 
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Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:14 am

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It's the same product other than the age of the plane. I generally don't care whether I'm on the newest 78 or the oldest 74. What I care about, and what I suspect most business travelers care about, isn't the newness of the plane but the consistency of service, hard product and schedule.

I tend to agree with one minor exception. I recently flew to India and back in J and on the same trip I was on a 744, 772, and 788. There was no difference whatsoever inside the cabin, other than the number of seats per row. Having said said that, I found the upper deck of the 744, especially the exit row, to be the best experience of all three. The upper deck of the 744 feels more comfortable, perhaps due to its more "secluded" and quieter cabin, and the exit row allows for far more space to get in and out of the window seat.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:29 am

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Another change is that the historical flagship BA 213/212 is 777 instead of 747. This flight has always been the one for connections and it is puzzling that the they have downgauged it to 777 for the winter.


I feel like the winter of 2016 had a number of days where 213/212 was a 777 and 215/214 was a 744, so perhaps there is precedent. Regardless, that was a bit surprising to me, as well.

Perhaps, as previously mentioned, the 239/238 rotation could be beneficial to those wanting to leave LHR late in the day (whether connecting or O&D), or be beneficial for those O&D passengers who don't want a redeye leaving BOS, but I would have assumed the 744 would stay on the 213/212 rotation rather than 239/238.

On another note, I was initially a bit surprised that BA will be going 4-a-day next summer and omitting the 744 entirely on the days where the A380 is in town. I would have thought that it'd be 3-a-day with A388/744/772 as it was this summer on those days. Then again, others have mentioned that the 215/214 rotation has been very inconsistent, so perhaps there is some logic in adding an extra rotation (and adjusting capacity to match), particularly considering BOS-LHR has a lot of business travelers who prefer frequency.
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:48 pm

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On another note, I was initially a bit surprised that BA will be going 4-a-day next summer and omitting the 744 entirely on the days where the A380 is in town. I would have thought that it'd be 3-a-day with A388/744/772 as it was this summer on those days. Then again, others have mentioned that the 215/214 rotation has been very inconsistent, so perhaps there is some logic in adding an extra rotation (and adjusting capacity to match), particularly considering BOS-LHR has a lot of business travelers who prefer frequency.

I'm not sure if this plays a role at all but next Summer we have the soccer World Cup being held in Russia. American soccer fans (along with the Japanese), are typically the largest traveling group so I wonder if they are expecting increased TATL volumes as a result of this event.
 
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Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:47 pm

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On another note, I was initially a bit surprised that BA will be going 4-a-day next summer and omitting the 744 entirely on the days where the A380 is in town. I would have thought that it'd be 3-a-day with A388/744/772 as it was this summer on those days. Then again, others have mentioned that the 215/214 rotation has been very inconsistent, so perhaps there is some logic in adding an extra rotation (and adjusting capacity to match), particularly considering BOS-LHR has a lot of business travelers who prefer frequency.

I'm not sure if this plays a role at all but next Summer we have the soccer World Cup being held in Russia. American soccer fans (along with the Japanese), are typically the largest traveling group so I wonder if they are expecting increased TATL volumes as a result of this event.


Isn't getting a visa for Russia difficult. Requires a HIV test if I recall correctly.
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:06 pm

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airbazar wrote:
33lspotter wrote:
On another note, I was initially a bit surprised that BA will be going 4-a-day next summer and omitting the 744 entirely on the days where the A380 is in town. I would have thought that it'd be 3-a-day with A388/744/772 as it was this summer on those days. Then again, others have mentioned that the 215/214 rotation has been very inconsistent, so perhaps there is some logic in adding an extra rotation (and adjusting capacity to match), particularly considering BOS-LHR has a lot of business travelers who prefer frequency.

I'm not sure if this plays a role at all but next Summer we have the soccer World Cup being held in Russia. American soccer fans (along with the Japanese), are typically the largest traveling group so I wonder if they are expecting increased TATL volumes as a result of this event.


Isn't getting a visa for Russia difficult. Requires a HIV test if I recall correctly.


As I understand it, the HIV test is only for longer term visas.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:14 pm

With Air Berlin chopping DUS-BOS and Eurowings having cancelled CGN-BOS recently (CGN and DUS are about 1 hour away by train or car btw), IMO there is a market gap.

This would be a good opportunity for LH to open BRU-BOS with Brussels, following Cathay's steps (swapping DUS for BRU).
 
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Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:14 pm

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With Air Berlin chopping DUS-BOS and Eurowings having cancelled CGN-BOS recently (CGN and DUS are about 1 hour away by train or car btw), IMO there is a market gap.

This would be a good opportunity for LH to open BRU-BOS with Brussels, following Cathay's steps (swapping DUS for BRU).


There's pretty good coverage from *A of Western Europe from BOS between LH/LX & SK. I wonder if maybe BOS-VIE on OS 76W for more Eastern Europe would make more sense?
 
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Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:06 pm

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There's pretty good coverage from *A of Western Europe from BOS between LH/LX & SK. I wonder if maybe BOS-VIE on OS 76W for more Eastern Europe would make more sense?

With half of my family living in Austria I'd welcome another option to compete with BOS-MUC, but I feel that VIE is between a rock and a hard place within the context of *A. It is too far East to be a connecting hub for Western Europe, and it faces tremendous pressure from both MUC and IST as a hub for Eastern Europe and beyond.
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Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:22 pm

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clrd4t8koff wrote:
There's pretty good coverage from *A of Western Europe from BOS between LH/LX & SK. I wonder if maybe BOS-VIE on OS 76W for more Eastern Europe would make more sense?

With half of my family living in Austria I'd welcome another option to compete with BOS-MUC, but I feel that VIE is between a rock and a hard place within the context of *A. It is too far East to be a connecting hub for Western Europe, and it faces tremendous pressure from both MUC and IST as a hub for Eastern Europe and beyond.
IMO, *A's biggest weaknesses from BOS are Asia and LHR. I don't know how *A can get on BOS-LHR but they should be working on getting someone to start a route to/from East Asia. NH from TYO, OZ from ICN, BR from TPE, or even SQ with an intermediate stop in ICN/TYO/TPE, would be good :)


There are actually a lot of destinations that are not served by MUC that are served by VIE. One big ethnic market for BOS would be EVN which we know TK will never serve. However, many are very niche or small... I just visited Bay of Kotor in Montenegro and loved it but TGD doesn't have a lot of traffic to the US in general.

TK is *A but they are not super close with UA and LH who probably have most of the frequent fliers (if you do your research on flyer talk you may consider A3's program too). Thus, an NH TYO flight would be the idea for the *A frequent flyer base in BOS since they play well in the sandbox.
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Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:30 pm

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Usually means one of two things... someone in the royal family starting his college year, or someone in the royal family receiving medical care.
 
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Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:30 am

I was checking DL flight schedules from BOS-DUB - starting October, DL makes this flight Thu-Sun through the end of October. Anyone knows how DL is doing on his flight segment?

Last week, saw a new DL destination show-up - BUF on the Terminal A board. Next week, this will be even more busier board with additions to AUS, MCI, ORF. Good luck DL!
 
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:02 pm

per airlineroute, the answer to the 787 riddle is QR. a 788 will be replacing the 359 beginning in october. the 359 will instead be on their DFW route (replacing 77W). downgauge dominos.
 
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Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:48 pm

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per airlineroute, the answer to the 787 riddle is QR. a 788 will be replacing the 359 beginning in october. the 359 will instead be on their DFW route (replacing 77W). downgauge dominos.


i'm not necessarily disagreeing with you here, but I just looked at airlineroute and can't find anything to support this, can you find the link and post it. logically it makes sense but I would like to see the posting.
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Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:06 pm

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rnav2dlrey wrote:
per airlineroute, the answer to the 787 riddle is QR. a 788 will be replacing the 359 beginning in october. the 359 will instead be on their DFW route (replacing 77W). downgauge dominos.


i'm not necessarily disagreeing with you here, but I just looked at airlineroute and can't find anything to support this, can you find the link and post it. logically it makes sense but I would like to see the posting.


https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 0688657408

he tweeted it this morning, looks like no post up yet on the website. the route that QR is upgauging in the musical chairs is HKG. 788 to 77W for HKG, with BOS getting that freed up 788.
 
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Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:16 pm

rnav2dlrey wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
rnav2dlrey wrote:
per airlineroute, the answer to the 787 riddle is QR. a 788 will be replacing the 359 beginning in october. the 359 will instead be on their DFW route (replacing 77W). downgauge dominos.


i'm not necessarily disagreeing with you here, but I just looked at airlineroute and can't find anything to support this, can you find the link and post it. logically it makes sense but I would like to see the posting.


https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 0688657408

he tweeted it this morning, looks like no post up yet on the website. the route that QR is upgauging in the musical chairs is HKG. 788 to 77W for HKG, with BOS getting that freed up 788.


Did a couple of dummy bookings and it looks like its just for October..... Its not a big drop in seats in coach but it is for J on a percentage basis.
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:15 pm

rnav2dlrey wrote:
https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 0688657408

he tweeted it this morning, looks like no post up yet on the website. the route that QR is upgauging in the musical chairs is HKG. 788 to 77W for HKG, with BOS getting that freed up 788.


ahhhh, the old twitter angle... forgot about that. Thank you
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Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:14 am

VS4ever wrote:
rnav2dlrey wrote:
per airlineroute, the answer to the 787 riddle is QR. a 788 will be replacing the 359 beginning in october. the 359 will instead be on their DFW route (replacing 77W). downgauge dominos.


i'm not necessarily disagreeing with you here, but I just looked at airlineroute and can't find anything to support this, can you find the link and post it. logically it makes sense but I would like to see the posting.


Here's the link

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... t-changes/
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:22 am

I can't figure out whether this is FOR October or FROM October. Two different pictures. 29 fewer seats x 2 is 58 each day, which hopefully can be made up by someone else if this ends up being a 'from October' switch.
 
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Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:58 am

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I can't figure out whether this is FOR October or FROM October. Two different pictures. 29 fewer seats x 2 is 58 each day, which hopefully can be made up by someone else if this ends up being a 'from October' switch.


The article says 2 things.

1. These changes are currently loaded for 10/1 to 10/31 - so FOR October. However...
2. Changes for September extended thru October.

Upshot, definitely changed for October, but it could be extended beyond that. I am sure EK and TK will happily take any overflow.
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Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:19 pm

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Upshot, definitely changed for October, but it could be extended beyond that. I am sure EK and TK will happily take any overflow.


November goes back to A350 - October is the worst month for ME3. February is a close second especially for BOS. This move makes sense.
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Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:21 pm

Apparently 6 J seats will be blocked for crew rest - the 787's do not have a crew rest compartment. That cut's premium capacity by a good bit more!
 
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Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:07 pm

According to the blog One Mile At a Time - BOS, DFW and MIA were all downgauged. BOS (as noted) is receiving the 788, while both MIA go from the 77W to A359's. While technically those are downgauges for DFW and MIA, some may consider it an upgrade as the 77W have the older 2x2x2 J seats and 3-4-3 Y seats. For now it looks to be just for the month of October - http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/ ... e-changes/

It's been asked a couple times here in the BOS forum about whether QR would potentially use a 788 to BOS as it's the perfect size plane for the route, and the general feedback has been that the 788's aren't fitted with the crew rest bunks for ULH flights. I wonder if QR has reconfigured some to now accommodate this or how they're working around this. Maybe blocking off seats in J for crew?
 
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Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:14 pm

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It's been asked a couple times here in the BOS forum about whether QR would potentially use a 788 to BOS as it's the perfect size plane for the route, and the general feedback has been that the 788's aren't fitted with the crew rest bunks for ULH flights. I wonder if QR has reconfigured some to now accommodate this or how they're working around this. Maybe blocking off seats in J for crew?


Look up one post

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Apparently 6 J seats will be blocked for crew rest - the 787's do not have a crew rest compartment. That cut's premium capacity by a good bit more!
 
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Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:18 pm

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clrd4t8koff wrote:
It's been asked a couple times here in the BOS forum about whether QR would potentially use a 788 to BOS as it's the perfect size plane for the route, and the general feedback has been that the 788's aren't fitted with the crew rest bunks for ULH flights. I wonder if QR has reconfigured some to now accommodate this or how they're working around this. Maybe blocking off seats in J for crew?


Look up one post

johhn14 wrote:
Apparently 6 J seats will be blocked for crew rest - the 787's do not have a crew rest compartment. That cut's premium capacity by a good bit more!


Lol, I think I'll grab that second cup of coffee now. Apparently I'm still asleep. Thanks!
 
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http://www.universalhub.com/2017/winter ... n-snowbank

Lufthansa and Massport in a bit of a quarrel.
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Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:40 am

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http://www.universalhub.com/2017/winter-never-ends-airline-sues-over-logan-snowbank

Lufthansa and Massport in a bit of a quarrel.


Hmmm, interesting one this. Airport shouldn't have been open if it wasn't clear and safe to FAA regs, but it was, so it had to be unless Massport cut a corner or two, which they could, but not sure they would necessarily, then there is the assumption that the LH Pilot wasn't off track either that could have caused the engine into the snowbank. Again unlikely given the quality of LH pilots, but one of the two has to be wrong to bring the law suit. Guess LH think it's Massport....

Time to get the popcorn as this one might run a while.
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Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:05 pm

Yeah I agree. I also wonder who does the ground ops - isn't there usually someone assigned to watching the wing on push back?
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Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:38 am

Is there a market for any African flights to BOS. Perhaps maybe a 3x weekly ET or AT service?
 
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Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:16 pm

I don't remember that exact occurrence well, but I believe it happened while taxiing. So no wing walkers.

Usually the airlines appoint someone to represent them (usually it's 1 per terminal, so in E the airlines usually choose together) and conduct a check of the airfield after a weather event. Massport takes this individual out, and they ensure that the gate areas/surrounding taxiways are in good shape.

2015 though, left no place to put all the snow. Massport did the best they could, but something like this was bound to happen.
 
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Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:08 pm

Just speculation but what I'm assuming happened is that somewhere the plane was taxiing and with the way that the snow was piled it went right into the engine when the plane was taxiing. I'm surprised that it was only that much they're asking for - plane was out of service for 10 days at BOS, had to be ferried to Hamburg, replaced the engine on the plane, and the engine that was damaged ultimately had to replace 38 blades. Along with the cancelation of the flight and rebooking the passengers. That was a nasty winter but it sounds like LH has a legit case here. It is hell on earth on the ramp when it snows, hopefully Massport is held accountable.
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Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:32 pm

I'm sure Massport will retort that BA had no problem with it.
 
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Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:41 pm

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I'm sure Massport will retort that BA had no problem with it.

LH423 departs before BA's flights so I'm sure that the snow bank was taken care of immediately after the incident.
 
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Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:31 pm

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I was checking DL flight schedules from BOS-DUB - starting October, DL makes this flight Thu-Sun through the end of October. Anyone knows how DL is doing on his flight segment?

Last week, saw a new DL destination show-up - BUF on the Terminal A board. Next week, this will be even more busier board with additions to AUS, MCI, ORF. Good luck DL!



That's going to be one busy terminal.

I have the same question about BOS-DUB. If they're running it Thursday - Sunday through end of October, sounds like it performed well enough to do a reprise next summer.
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Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:08 am

tlecam wrote:
I have the same question about BOS-DUB. If they're running it Thursday - Sunday through end of October, sounds like it performed well enough to do a reprise next summer.


Its already loaded for S18. It will resume on May 24.

clrd4t8koff wrote:
Is there a market for any African flights to BOS. Perhaps maybe a 3x weekly ET or AT service?


AT would be very interesting because of the B6 codeshare. They can also connect you to Southern Europe though connecting through CMN may be a tough sell for some European bound passengers.
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:53 am

adamh8297 wrote:
AT would be very interesting because of the B6 codeshare. They can also connect you to Southern Europe though connecting through CMN may be a tough sell for some European bound passengers.

There's virtually no African connection to New England other than Cape Verde, so unless TACV comes back to Boston I don't see flights to Africa any time soon.
Immigration from Africa, while growing is still very small. IIRC, Nigeria and Ghana are the main source of African immigration. Not even NYC seems to be able to sustain service to those countries so I doubt BOS would. I suspect that most of the demand from Boston to Africa comes from aid workers which while being high yield probably doesn't generate enough volume by itself.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:11 pm

Parker said in remarks today that BOS will always be a spoke; doesn't intend to compete with B6 and DL to grow the hub, per Edward Russell from FlightGlobal.
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:01 pm

Understandable - AA has great hubs in addition to a solid OW network for connections. I looked at May-2017 BTS data and AA still has a solid 6% lead.

273,465 American 20.4%
186,065 Delta 13.9%
393,434 JetBlue 29.4%
168,941 United 12.6%

It would be interesting to see how the BTS stats stack up starting July when DL adds new destinations.

But who knows - if AMZN setups the 2nd headquarter in Boston and I am sure Logan is a key consideration in addition to a good public transportation system (the term 'good' in relation to Austin, Dallas etc.) and other parameters, AA may have a change of heart :)
 
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:47 am

Regarding connections to Africa in New England, there is a large Liberian population in and around Providence but doubt its large enough to support service on its own.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:33 am

QR has expanded 788 service into November as well (was previously for only October)

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air ... f-13sep17/
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:47 pm

Looks like our strong airport could be a deciding factor in landing Amazon's new headquarters. Love to see how its attracting businesses (GE).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... adquarters
 
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:18 pm

March T-100's are out. Doing things a little differently. I don't have time to go through and key them into a long post, so i used one of the existing templates from the website and created a snapshot, that way you can see flights, seats, pax and capacity factors all together, by route and airline. Sadly this way has lost a bit of the detail (who is doing better on a route, but that's really only a problem for the Caribbean routes)

Anyway, take a look and we can discuss the salient points. Great month for the likes of CX, CM, LY, and DY. Not so pretty for QR,WW,LX,

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B61t8 ... k9nYW1DRGM
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:02 pm

VS4ever wrote:
March T-100's are out. Doing things a little differently. I don't have time to go through and key them into a long post, so i used one of the existing templates from the website and created a snapshot, that way you can see flights, seats, pax and capacity factors all together, by route and airline. Sadly this way has lost a bit of the detail (who is doing better on a route, but that's really only a problem for the Caribbean routes)

Anyway, take a look and we can discuss the salient points. Great month for the likes of CX, CM, LY, and DY. Not so pretty for QR,WW,LX,

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B61t8 ... k9nYW1DRGM


Nice presentation of the data!

Didn't VS BOS-MAN start in March? I didn't check the BTS xls file yet.

Looks like HU has too much capacity using the 789 vs 788.

Important to note CM improved loads on higher capacity. Edit: AM did too slightly with much higher capacity.
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:43 pm

adamh8297 wrote:
Didn't VS BOS-MAN start in March? I didn't check the BTS xls file yet.


Yes, started on 3/31, so only 1 flight pair to log.

BOS-MAN 264 seats, 56 pax 21.2%
MAN-BOS 264 seats, 194 pax 73.5%
Average 47.3%
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:36 pm

pitbosflyer wrote:
Looks like our strong airport could be a deciding factor in landing Amazon's new headquarters. Love to see how its attracting businesses (GE).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... adquarters


if Boston gets Amazon, 50,000 employees, air service will suffer because everyone will be paying $5,000/month in rent or $1 Million for 3 tiny 3 bedroom house.
Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
 
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Re: Boston Aviation - Part 13

Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:03 pm

RL757PVD wrote:
pitbosflyer wrote:
Looks like our strong airport could be a deciding factor in landing Amazon's new headquarters. Love to see how its attracting businesses (GE).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... adquarters


if Boston gets Amazon, 50,000 employees, air service will suffer because everyone will be paying $5,000/month in rent or $1 Million for 3 tiny 3 bedroom house.


ahahahah, I LOL'd at the low cost of living statement.

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