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Central American Aviation Thread - 2017 (1st Half)

Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:21 am

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THE CENTRAL AMERICAN AVIATION THREAD
PART LXVI

"Development of the low-cost model in Central America"

The expansion of this product has finally touched our geographical area aggressively.
Almost ten years backward, Spirit commenced their flights out of Ft. Lauderdale heading to many regional stations and based purely on this dynamic model: red-eye flights sometimes, usage of secondary airports, only e-tickets, no free meals, checked bags and so forth.
Their competitors cannot stop their activities here and none of our former regional stations have been filed yet.
Other US airlines followed them later: Jetblue, Frontier, Southwest and Alaska, among others.
Mexico and Canada are also participating actively: InterJet, Volaris, Sunwing, Air Transat, Westjet and so on.
Even South America sent Viva Colombia and Wingo, based on the same pattern.
The growth of a fully regional low-cost airline was materialized in 2014. Thus, VECA from El Salvador started scheduled operations and Volaris Costa Rica has already announced a huge expansion, in the forthcoming years.

The new thread is up and running !
Edited on January 16, 2017.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:21 pm

Going back to the previous thread, you really think GUA could sustain itself as a nonstop both ways? If so, maybe thrice weekly would probably be ideal. It would also mean the idea of having a triangular MAD-SAL-MGA-MAD would not be that far fetched and has the sideeffect that Nicaraguans wouldn't need a transit visa to connect via SJO, as well as not needing to go further to PTY. Demand for MGA is another question.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:39 pm

http://www.crhoy.com/economia/aerolinea ... trimestre/ (Spanish only)

Veca has officially announced that they will suspend operations for three months starting next week. The shutdown comes as a result of a restructuring effort. This comes after one of their aircraft was returned to the lessor, after Veca owned a total of over $800,000 in unpaid lease. They also want to get smaller aircraft in order to keep regional routes to Guatemala, Nicaragua and Costa Rica.

Mark my words: I don't think they'll come back in April. On the contrary, it sounds to me like an effort to delay bankruptcy.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:45 am

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Veca has officially announced that they will suspend operations for three months starting next week. The shutdown comes as a result of a restructuring effort. This comes after one of their aircraft was returned to the lessor, after Veca owned a total of over $800,000 in unpaid lease. They also want to get smaller aircraft in order to keep regional routes to Guatemala, Nicaragua and Costa Rica.

Things couldn't get worse on VU.
Q6 SAL-SJO 7x weekly is due to start on February 20th, meaning much competence in such route.
If they're actually looking for smaller planes, loads haven't been stellar in their 319s.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:43 pm

Wamos will launch service to Guatemala City and Havana on june 2017. The route will be triangular. I will assume it will be MAD-GUA-HAV-MAD and it will be operated by A330-200

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:13 am

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Wamos will launch service to Guatemala City and Havana on june 2017. The route will be triangular. I will assume it will be MAD-GUA-HAV-MAD and it will be operated by A330-200.

Wamos was the former Pullmantur Air and focused to leisure traffic exclussively.
The sole and second-hand 332 is registered as EC-MJS.
That confirms my earlier point: Guatemala City is the third Central American market from Madrid, besides San Jose and Panama City.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:28 am

A sole A332? Good luck to them. I don't want to be pessimistic, but having one sole A332 for the entire network reminds me of the shady operation NM used to have when they were around. On the bright side, GUA being the third biggest Central American market from MAD, behind SJO and PTY, could be something promissing for the future.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:05 am

Central America hasn't got good results with secondary airlines flying to Madrid.
We could also remember Air Comet flying to SJO ten years ago.
They utilized an unusual mix of 340s, 330s and 310s.
Their operations here didn't last too much.



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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:03 pm

Yes, I remember Air Comet. But to me, they were not as infamously in memory as Air Madrid was. It was a blessing in disguise for many when IB put more faith in Central America by starting up SJO and PTY, and later KL by resuming service to PTY. When I came back to SJO, my KL flight was filled with lots of Hondurans and not so much Panamanians or Europeans. I was probably the only one on that flight connecting to SJO.

As far as "secondary airlines" flying out of MAD are concerned, UX (Air Europa) would at least be a serious airline with an established reputation that could decide to eventually start services to Central America on a regular basis.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:37 pm

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As far as "secondary airlines" flying out of MAD are concerned, UX (Air Europa) would at least be a serious airline with an established reputation that could decide to eventually start services to Central America on a regular basis.


UX has already announced it will start flying MAD SAP on a limited basis.
http://www.laprensa.hn/honduras/1019773 ... -partir-de
not sure when the service starts.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:52 pm

Link to previous thread:

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:32 pm

An additional A330 will be joining the fleet soon.

LTU932 wrote:
A sole A332? Good luck to them. I don't want to be pessimistic, but having one sole A332 for the entire network reminds me of the shady operation NM used to have when they were around. On the bright side, GUA being the third biggest Central American market from MAD, behind SJO and PTY, could be something promissing for the future.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:16 am

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UX has already announced it will start flying MAD SAP on a limited basis.
not sure when the service starts.


UX MAD-SAP 1x weekly with 332 is due to start on April 26.



There were talks when Copa Airlines belonged to SkyTeam grouping about the possibility of Air Europa in Panama City.
The project never was materialized at all.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:24 am

SJOtoLIR wrote:
"Development of the low-cost model in Central America"


Update: Air Costa Rica won't start the planned SJO-GUA service in February.
They would rather focus into charter services by the first half of 2017.
Rumor has it that Volaris Costa Rica is studying the SJO-MGA sector and complementing Q6 SJO-GUA 14x weekly and the upcoming Q6 SJO-SAL 7x weekly.

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Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:31 pm

https://twitter.com/CopaAirlines/status/822495052882710528
CM to open new M.R.O. 3 aircraft hangar.
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:46 pm

Its almost announcement time of the year again. Any speculation on AS, B6, WS, WN forays into the region or new CM / AV services to North America?
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:59 pm

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Its almost announcement time of the year again. Any speculation on AS, B6, WS, WN forays into the region or new CM / AV services to North America?

My picks
WN: FLL to BOG, PTY, and GUA
MCO to BOG and PTY

B6: FLL to CLO, PTY, MGA, GUA, LIR, SAL, and TZA
It would be nice to see Spirit increase frequencies to existing destinations and Frontier to more international service.

As for CM, I am willing to bet (probably not all this year) PIT, AUS, DFW, SAN, PHX, CAY, CUZ, LPB, PBM, and as the Brazilian economy recovers BEL, SLZ, SSA, CWB, FLN.
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Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:51 pm

dabpit wrote:
yellowtail wrote:
Its almost announcement time of the year again. Any speculation on AS, B6, WS, WN forays into the region or new CM / AV services to North America?

My picks
WN: FLL to BOG, PTY, and GUA
MCO to BOG and PTY

B6: FLL to CLO, PTY, MGA, GUA, LIR, SAL, and TZA
It would be nice to see Spirit increase frequencies to existing destinations and Frontier to more international service.

As for CM, I am willing to bet (probably not all this year) PIT, AUS, DFW, SAN, PHX, CAY, CUZ, LPB, PBM, and as the Brazilian economy recovers BEL, SLZ, SSA, CWB, FLN.



TZA? I think you mean BZE. Don't think any jet aircraft will be going in and out of TZA.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:07 pm

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TZA? I think you mean BZE. Don't think any jet aircraft will be going in and out of TZA

Yes I mean BZE
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:22 am

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B6: FLL to CLO, PTY, MGA, GUA, LIR, SAL
It would be nice to see Spirit increase frequencies to existing destinations and Frontier to more international service.

Any B6 PTY-MCO means the incursion in a very congested route: CM PTY-MCO 28x weekly.
With respect to Frontier in Central America again, they used to fly F9 DEN-SJO and F9 DEN-LIR before.
Denver is not a top destination for Central America. As a matter of fact, UA DEN-PTY was also filed.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:11 pm

The former TACA started the Embraer 190 era in 2008.
Avianca Central America has retired the first E90 from its fleet.
The plane was stored in January 2017 under the registration N986TA and featuring the Costa Rican flag.



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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:32 am

Wingo to start Panama City - Cartagena service as shown:

P5 7086.......BLB 14.00 - 15.13 CTG........73G......Mo, Th, Sa
P5 7087.......CTG 16.20 - 17.33 BLB........73G......Mo, Th, Sa
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Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:21 am

https://www.crhoy.com/nacionales/tras-4 ... n-orotina/ (Spanish only)

After 44 years since the project was first proposed by President Daniel Oduber, a study on the construction of the new SJO in Orotina can be expected by March or April of this year. The cost of the study is about US$1.5 million.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:03 am

From the previous thread:

Proposal of the different suiters on AV:

UA: $500 million loan.
DL: more than $1000 million loan, in cash.
CM: merger with AV.


And the winner is: United Airlines !
Related press release in Spanish language: http://www.nacion.com/economia/Avianca- ... 38691.HTML
Forget any speculation about Avianca in SkyTeam.


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Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:04 am

Still waiting for ORD-GUA, but we all know DTW-anywhere but ORD will print money! Go DTW, GO (into reality).
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:21 pm

Volaris Costa Rica to start Managua - San Jose service as shown:

Q6 SJO 14.00.........15.08 MGA.......Daily
Q6 MGA 15.48........16.49 SJO........Daily
Effective: April 07th






Avianca to increase AV SJO-BOG from 14x to 21x weekly.
The new flight will purely operate as red-eye service:

AV 692......BOG 23.15......00.35+1 BOG.......Daily.....319
AV 693......SJO 02.55.......06.10 BOG...........Daily.....319
Effective: March 26th



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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:45 pm

Why is AV retiring the E-190??? I wonder what they will replace them with and what their plans are for intra-central american routes.

I take it SJO will be the winner of new air services again this year.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:53 pm

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SJO will be the winner of new air services again this year.

Volaris Costa Rica just started operations in December 2016 and these guys are speaking seriously.
They talked about 18 and 22 planes based in Central America before 2020.
Only a couple of months of commercial operations and they're announcing new flights, in the short-term:
Q6 SJO-GUA 14x weekly
Q6 SJO-SAL 7x weekly. Effective: February 20th.
Q6 SJO-MGA 7x weekly. Effective: April 07th.






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Why is AV retiring the E-190?

I ignore further details.
The N986TA doesn't seem like too old to be out of their commercial purposes.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:48 pm

Hi all... New here posting, but been lurking and reading for quite some time (years) now...

Just caught a while ago on fr24 flight BBA508 on PTY. Right now it is located in the area around Copa Airlines MX hangar.

A CS300 painted on airBaltic livery (but still registered to Bombardier as C-FFDO), which flew in yesterday (2/2) straight from SFO.

Guess we can now have a more accurate glimpse at what CM is eyeing as a replacement for the E190 fleet once they return them back to their lessors...
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:07 pm

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Hi all... New here posting, but been lurking and reading for quite some time (years) now...
CM is eyeing as a replacement for the E190 fleet once they return them back to their lessors...

Welcome aboard ! :champagne: :checkmark:
We'd expect you'll join us for a long time speaking about the regional civil aviation !
We have commented here that the regional airlines are not entirely happy with the E90s, based on their limited cargo capability.
However, they required a suitable 100-seater plane for their low-density routes. The E90 was chosen by CM as a very efficient plane over the CRJ-1000, 318 and 736. They didn't care about the airplane commonality and a different frame was incorporated to the fleet of the Panamanian flagship airline.
As far as I know, CM owns all their E90s.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:53 pm

Los expatriados de la aviación tica (link in Spanish) is a suprisingly well-written piece on the legion of Costa Rican nationals who were laid off by the infamous and now-defunct parrot cartel (its later and no less evil incarnation fired another 200 tico employees almost four years ago) and are currently working for world-class Asian carriers, primarily QR and EK. Their passion for aviation has taken these daring individuals to exotic and faraway places. Although frequently afflicted by homesickness, they are now being thoroughly rewarded both personally and professionally.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:00 pm

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the legion of Costa Rican nationals

I've read it carefully and I concur with Capt. Bruno who's stating the lack of new jobs in Costa Rica are pushing them to work abroad.
A friend of mine who is working in the Middle East as First Official told me the other day about better chances regarding the monthly income. The amount described is by far surpassing the numbers reported into the attached press release.
I envisage Volaris Costa Rica might open better opportunities for them before 2020. I'd hope so

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:21 am

SJOtoLIR wrote:
Volaris Costa Rica to start Managua - San Jose service as shown:

Q6 SJO 14.00.........15.08 MGA.......Daily
Q6 MGA 15.48........16.49 SJO........Daily
Effective: April 07th.


Update:
Q6 4010....SJO 14.00 - 15.08 MGA........Daily........320
Q6 4011....MGA 15.48 - 16.49 SJO........Daily........320
Effective: April 07th

Flight numbers and equipment have been loaded.

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Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:25 pm

http://www.estrategiaynegocios.net/lasc ... anam%C3%A1 (Spanish only)

Air Costa Rica is finally starting service this friday. They're starting with charter flights to Panama and want to transition to scheduled flights in the midterm. Their first goal is to consolidate themselves financially before expanding.
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Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:05 pm

They'll have a fierce competence in the future.
The niche for profitable Central American flights out of Costa Rica have been drastically reduced, taking into account how the low-cost model is acting.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:52 am

Just read on the Costa Rica Aviation Twitter page that IB is changing equipment on MAD-SJO. Starting March 26, they're switching from A346 to A332.

https://twitter.com/CR_Aviation/status/ ... 0849239040

The changes are visible on the IB website as per the screenshot. This means a reduction in capacity for MAD-SJO as well, but given that the A340s are on the way out, it's not unexpected. Anyone have an idea on how this reduction in capacity may be offset?
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:35 pm

Wamos starts flying June 20th with Airbus A330-200
Flight will be Tuesdays

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HAV 17:55 - GUA 18:01

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:23 pm

After a long hiatus, I came back for a quick comment.

AV has revised and changed it's fare structure baggage policy and CentAm got the shaft in regards to baggage to/from the US (unless you are Salvadoran). You can only carry 1 piece @ 50 lb. If you want to carry a second bag you have to pay the extra bag fee which is now US$ 175.00.

Guess CentAm passengers will go with CM until they institute a similar money grabbing scheme when traveling to the US.
nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:52 pm

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AV has revised and changed it's fare structure baggage policy and CentAm got the shaft in regards to baggage to/from the US (unless you are Salvadoran). You can only carry 1 piece @ 50 lb. If you want to carry a second bag you have to pay the extra bag fee which is now US$ 175.00.
I can understand having to pay for a second bag, but this is too much money. When I flew KL, my second bag cost 100 Euros if you pay at the airport (at current exchange rates, roughly US$106), even cheaper if you reserve it and pay for it online, then you pay 80 Euros (roughly US$85 at current rates).

If CM starts a similar policy, I hope they try to guide themselves from what KL does, offering discounts if you pay and reserve it online. The 20% discount for paying it online at KL can make a world of difference.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:25 pm

AV MIA-SAP will be served as 6x weekly weekly with 320 plus 1x weekly with E90. Effective: April 01.
AV JFK-SAP will be served as 2x weekly with 320. Effective: April 22.





Copa Airlines expands code-share routes with United from Chicago:

CM operated by UA:
Chicago O’Hare - Denver
Chicago O’Hare - Hartford
Chicago O’Hare - Jackson Hole
Chicago O’Hare - Kansas City
Chicago O’Hare - Philadelphia
Chicago O’Hare - Pittsburgh
Effective: June 01.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:09 pm

My wife came back last week from USA on flight 641 of Avianca, she was allowed to to carry a 50 pound bag. Avianca send me an e-mail if I wanted to purchase additional pounds or extra bags.
Second back was $25.00 ($40.00 in the counter) and the third bag was $125 ($160.00 in the counter) all of them for 50 pounds.

When will this new policies enter service?
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:33 pm

This may be a dumb question, but anyone know why so many longhaul flights are getting delayed in SJO lately? Yesterday, the IB flight to MAD departed about two hours late, BA also seems to have minimum 30-60 minute delays as well. I understand that there are delays all the time, but those many delays for departures out of SJO, especially with transatlantic flights, they can't be normal, can they?
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:30 am

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IB flight to MAD departed about two hours late, BA also seems to have minimum 30-60 minute delays as well.

Yes, you said it correctly.
I don't know the reasons why these flights drive poor records as shown:

IB SJO-MAD
On-time performance: 38%
Average delay: 34 minutes
Standard deviation: 47 minutes
Filter period: December 15, 2016 - February 15, 2017

BA SJO-LGW
On-time performance: 14%
Average delay: 50 minutes
Standard deviation: 37 minutes
Filter period: December 15, 2016 - February 15, 2017

Source: flightstats.com

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Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:41 am

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Second back was $25.00 ($40.00 in the counter) and the third bag was $125 ($160.00 in the counter) all of them for 50 pounds.
When will this new policies enter service?

No idea.
You must enter into the website and check about their baggage policies periodically.
Copa Airlines and the former TACA kept for years an attractive policy promoting two pieces up to 50 pounds each for free, especially for those flights heading to the United States, where all the US carriers are steadily charging for the luggage.
The agressive entrance of the low-cost airlines regionally also seems to change their former baggage policies lately.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:58 am

At least AV is giving you a discount for paying for the extra luggage online, giving you the incentive of not doing things at the last minute.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:30 pm

Here's a question: How far ahead are airlines in implementing the new system that automatically charges the exit tax with the ticket? Have all airlines flying to/from SJO (including codeshares, dunno about LIR) implemented this, or are there airlines that still require you to go to that special counter or pay it at Bancrédito in advance? The reason why I ask is because Bancrédito is in financial trouble right now, with the government apparently scrambling to prevent another Banco Anglo from happening. As one of the primary instances to take this payment, whatever happens could have repercussions on travel. I don't even want to know how bad it would be for people exiting the country by land.

For those who don't know: The Banco Anglo Costarricense (founded 1863 with British and Costa Rican capital and nationalised in 1949) was shutdown in September 1994, in what was the biggest bank collapse in Costa Rican history.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:18 pm

LTU932 wrote:
Here's a question: How far ahead are airlines in implementing the new system that automatically charges the exit tax with the ticket? Have all airlines flying to/from SJO (including codeshares, dunno about LIR) implemented this, or are there airlines that still require you to go to that special counter or pay it at Bancrédito in advance?

The Bancredito office at SJO displays a banner featuring the airlines whose exit tax has been included into the e-ticket.
Speaking generally, those low-cost airlines flying to SJO usually don't charge it at this time: Volaris, Wingo, Southwest, Spirit and so forth. I ignore the situation in Liberia.
Passengers are free to pay in advance the departure tax, in downtown San Jose. However, don't bother to do this; queues are not extrely large once at SJO. No more than five minutes.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:19 am

SJOtoLIR wrote:
LTU932 wrote:
Here's a question: How far ahead are airlines in implementing the new system that automatically charges the exit tax with the ticket? Have all airlines flying to/from SJO (including codeshares, dunno about LIR) implemented this, or are there airlines that still require you to go to that special counter or pay it at Bancrédito in advance?

The Bancredito office at SJO displays a banner featuring the airlines whose exit tax has been included into the e-ticket.
Speaking generally, those low-cost airlines flying to SJO usually don't charge it at this time: Volaris, Wingo, Southwest, Spirit and so forth. I ignore the situation in Liberia.
Passengers are free to pay in advance the departure tax, in downtown San Jose. However, don't bother to do this; queues are not extrely large once at SJO. No more than five minutes.

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In my case, I don't worry. If in doubt, the travel agency I used for my last travels can confirm to me if the exit tax is included in the ticket or not (if I use them for my booking). Last year was weird though. Because the exit tax was in the ticket, the people at UA gave us at check-in the same form for arrival immigration, to be filled out as exit immigration form. From what I remember from the old exit tax forms to be paid at the airport or Bancrédito, it had a dedicated exit immigration form, different from the one used for arrivals.
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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:57 am

GOL from Brazil expanded the code-share agreement with Copa Airlines as shown:

GOL operated by Copa Airlines:
Panama City - Belo Horizonte
Panama City - Brasilia
Panama City - Manaus
Panama City - Porto Alegre
Panama City - Recife

Efective: February 11th, 2017.

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Re: Central American aviation thread. Part 66

Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:16 pm

From this thread
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AA will start service from ORD to GUA effective July 8th

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