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audidudi
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:55 pm

I can't edit my post anymore but will update it the next go-round. Hopefully 3278 will be back in service by then.[/quote]

It looks like it's getting ready to return to service tomorrow!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N378NW
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:18 pm

767-332 non-ER to be retired this month are N125DL and N129DL unless there are last minute changes. Ship #1400 to 1403 will definitely be around for awhile.
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:08 am

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned as of late, but the word is out and it is confirmed that the MD-88s will be completely off property by 2020. The earlier plan was to have the last one leave at the end of 2022. It's shaping up to be an aggressive drawdown of the type.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:35 am

777Mech wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned as of late, but the word is out and it is confirmed that the MD-88s will be completely off property by 2020. The earlier plan was to have the last one leave at the end of 2022. It's shaping up to be an aggressive drawdown of the type.


Yep. I heard 288 is already starting to bump people out. I think they are about done doing 219 overhauls. Hopefully they replace that engine with either the V2500 or GTF.


will also be interesting to see what Delta does with the small test cell. I don't think they can run the CF34-8, CFM56, V2500 or BR715s in it.
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:41 am

deltal1011man wrote:
Yep. I heard 288 is already starting to bump people out. I think they are about done doing 219 overhauls. Hopefully they replace that engine with either the V2500 or GTF.


will also be interesting to see what Delta does with the small test cell. I don't think they can run the CF34-8, CFM56, V2500 or BR715s in it.


Department 288 has been around a long time and proudly processed a lot of engines. Here's hoping for its folks sake that it brings aboard a new engine type, as you mentioned.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:21 am

777Mech wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned as of late, but the word is out and it is confirmed that the MD-88s will be completely off property by 2020. The earlier plan was to have the last one leave at the end of 2022. It's shaping up to be an aggressive drawdown of the type.


Let me guess, the M88 fleet's maintenance costs, in particular the engine maintenance, and likely slightly higher fuel prices are pushing the plane out at an accelerated pace. So I guess the remaining 737-900ERs and A321s with a few 737-800s from GOL are the replacements for the aircraft. Would have expected more used 737-800s to bridge the gap, but hey it's a while before 2020.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:24 am

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A320, tail not yet shown, scheduled to exit SAL this afternoon: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9 ... /MSLP/KDTW. Must be 3243 or 3274.

Yes it was 3274!
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:38 am

deltal1011man wrote:
777Mech wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned as of late, but the word is out and it is confirmed that the MD-88s will be completely off property by 2020. The earlier plan was to have the last one leave at the end of 2022. It's shaping up to be an aggressive drawdown of the type.


Yep. I heard 288 is already starting to bump people out. I think they are about done doing 219 overhauls. Hopefully they replace that engine with either the V2500 or GTF.


will also be interesting to see what Delta does with the small test cell. I don't think they can run the CF34-8, CFM56, V2500 or BR715s in it.


Oh yeah, they already leveled a bunch of folks from 288 to other support shops at the first of the year.I know the plating shop in particular got 16 people.

As for the small cell, I know for a fact they run the 715s and the 34s out there, but the 56s are out at the large cell.

What is surprising is they are bringing the hot section repair back in house, it's going where the engine hardware shop used to be. Should be operational by the end of the year.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:11 pm

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3755 just did a test flight and appears to be scheduled to RTS tonight: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n3755d
3756 should take its place in IND for cabin mods/2Ku: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n3756


3756 heading to IND later this morning and no return flight, so it's likely entering mods. That brings the old 73H count to 9 remaining.
3142 RTS tomorrow from DTW. Should have 2Ku WiFi.
3163 in AMA for paint since 2/1
3278 is in the air. Now we'll see if the remaining unmodded 320s get the full mod or just P1
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:05 pm

Do we have a list of widebodies that are active vs retired?
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:48 pm

N776AU wrote:
Do we have a list of widebodies that are active vs retired?

Obviously it depends how far back in time you want to go! Here's the list of B744s and B762/763/ERs that were sold, are stored, or are in the DL Flight Museum! The active list has way too many to list as there are all the A332/A333s, B763/ERs/B764s and B744s. Go to this link if you want to see the whole list!

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Delta-Air-Lines

B744
N661US (Preserved in the DL Flight Museum)
N663US
N664US
N665US
N671US
N672US
N673US
N675NW
N676NW

B763
N116DL
N117DL
N118DL
N119DL
N120DL
N121DE
N122DL
N123DN
N124DE
N125DL (Currently still in service)
N126DL
N127DL
N128DL
N129DL (Currently still in service)
N130DL
N131DN
N132DN
N133DN
N134DN
N135DN
N136DL
N137DL
N138DL
N139DL

B763ER
N173DN
N179DZ

B762s (Sold to other operators)
N101DA
N102DA (Preserved in the DL Flight Museum)
N103DA
N104DA
N105DA
N106DA
N107DL
N108DL
N109DL
N110DL
N111DN
N112DL
N113DA
N114DL
N115DA
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:23 am

N179DZ was never taken up - the frame was built but went to somebody else. Also important to note that most on that list are beyond the point of no return.
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:59 am

3816 was in ATL 1/26 - 2/3 and should now have 2Ku.
3818 has been in ATL since yesterday, 2/2, and should be getting the same upgrade.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:30 am

N327NW is the next one going in at SAL, leaves today as 9933.
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:51 am

777Mech wrote:
deltal1011man wrote:
777Mech wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned as of late, but the word is out and it is confirmed that the MD-88s will be completely off property by 2020. The earlier plan was to have the last one leave at the end of 2022. It's shaping up to be an aggressive drawdown of the type.


Yep. I heard 288 is already starting to bump people out. I think they are about done doing 219 overhauls. Hopefully they replace that engine with either the V2500 or GTF.


will also be interesting to see what Delta does with the small test cell. I don't think they can run the CF34-8, CFM56, V2500 or BR715s in it.


Oh yeah, they already leveled a bunch of folks from 288 to other support shops at the first of the year.I know the plating shop in particular got 16 people.

As for the small cell, I know for a fact they run the 715s and the 34s out there, but the 56s are out at the large cell.

What is surprising is they are bringing the hot section repair back in house, it's going where the engine hardware shop used to be. Should be operational by the end of the year.

I didn't know about the BRs.
unless something has changed they CF34-8s have to go into the big cell. The CF34-3s go to the small cell.

Also didn't know about the hot section work coming back in-house. They made it seem like very little of the Rolls engines will be sent out, and that those capabilities would roll down hill to other engines/components. Wonder if that work is a part of that.
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:14 am

Effective February 3rd, DL have sent a 2nd low-J 763ER to CAN for maintenance. Until then it would rotate 2 763ERs (one high J, one low J) through CAN during the winter schedule. Now there is a third. Don't know if this is permanent or simply taking advantage of the dead of winter. Flight schedule has been adjusted accordingly. NRT-PVG has gone from low-J to high-J and ATL-MAD has gone from high-J to 764.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:22 pm

audidudi wrote:
N776AU wrote:
Do we have a list of widebodies that are active vs retired?

Obviously it depends how far back in time you want to go! Here's the list of B744s and B762/763/ERs that were sold, are stored, or are in the DL Flight Museum! The active list has way too many to list as there are all the A332/A333s, B763/ERs/B764s and B744s. Go to this link if you want to see the whole list!

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Delta-Air-Lines

I didn't even know this was a thing (although I should have!). Thank you!
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:35 pm

3719 back in service with 2Ku.
3723 should be taking its place for the same mod.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:27 am

N872DN gets delivered on the 8th as 9931.
N351NB exits on the 8th as 9932.
N125DL off to MZJ tomorrow as 9931.

3756 was at IND and operated as 9932 IND-CVG-IND. Was in CVG for 2.5 hours. It still should be getting cabin mods.
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:50 am

777Mech wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned as of late, but the word is out and it is confirmed that the MD-88s will be completely off property by 2020. The earlier plan was to have the last one leave at the end of 2022. It's shaping up to be an aggressive drawdown of the type.


That is devastating. Just 3 months ago in the previous version of the thread, I read Q1 2023. Basically cuts the remaining life in half.

Is this all a result of even greater engine part difficulties than previous thought 8 weeks ago, or a more ambitious renewal plan with the incoming deliveries?

Lastly, is there any chance this will be fluid as the fleet mirrors the MD90 size?
Did you know that a Boeing 717-200 is really a McDonnell Douglas MD95-30? ;-)
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:39 pm

3159 exited AMA with new paint
3142 entered AMA for paint 2/6
3713 exited CWF with new paint
3716 entered CWF for paint 2/6
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:19 pm

DeltaMD95 wrote:
That is devastating. Just 3 months ago in the previous version of the thread, I read Q1 2023. Basically cuts the remaining life in half.

Is this all a result of even greater engine part difficulties than previous thought 8 weeks ago, or a more ambitious renewal plan with the incoming deliveries?

Lastly, is there any chance this will be fluid as the fleet mirrors the MD90 size?


From now and until the end of 2019, Delta will receive 4 ex-GOL 737-800s, 49 737-900ERs, and 66 A321s.That alone is more than enough to park 4 1987-1988 build 757s, 7 A320s, and the entire MD-88 fleet. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Delta ended up parking additional early built A320s and adding some more used 737-800s if they can get a good deal on them. (Delta has already received two 737-900ERs and one A321 while retiring the final two non-ETOPS domestic 767s.) In the press release regarding the order for the additional 37 A321s, Delta CEO Ed Bastian stated, “The order for the A321s is an opportunistic fleet move that enables us to produce strong returns and cost-effectively accelerate the retirement of Delta’s 116 MD-88s in a capital efficient manner.” As Delta is planning on slowing capacity growth for this year, all of those ordered large narrowbodies will have to end up replacing something. Delta decided to keep 21 older 757s into next decade by refurbishing them to the new 199 seat interior. Delta has noted in the past of the improved economics of the 757 with the interior reconfiguration. Must be enough to bring a few out of retirement and extend the aircraft's life past 2020. I think many on this forum might underestimate the impact of the S80 disappearing from AA's fleet. After this year, only 1998-1999 built ex-TWA MD-83s should remain in AA's fleet as they will be completely removed next year. The lack of parts availability is probably factoring into this decision. Also it looks like oil will not stay at rock bottom and will probably rise over the next three years. The MD-88 is an old obsolete aircraft. The average age of Delta's MD-88 fleet is 26.7 years. Most narrowbodies would start seeing the junkyard at this stage.

Note I am completely leaving out the CSeries order as I consider the aircraft to be a continued 50 seat replacement and expansion aircraft, whereas all of the 737-900ERs and A321s being delivered until the end of 2019 will end up replacing primarily MD-88s.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:50 pm

75G N819DX flew from BDL to VQQ yesterday. Perhaps for mods? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N819DX
It appears that only two of the five 75Gs (821DX and 822DX) currently fly the NRT hub routes. The others are flying mainland US routes.
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:57 pm

DeltaMD95 wrote:
777Mech wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned as of late, but the word is out and it is confirmed that the MD-88s will be completely off property by 2020. The earlier plan was to have the last one leave at the end of 2022. It's shaping up to be an aggressive drawdown of the type.


That is devastating. Just 3 months ago in the previous version of the thread, I read Q1 2023. Basically cuts the remaining life in half.

Is this all a result of even greater engine part difficulties than previous thought 8 weeks ago, or a more ambitious renewal plan with the incoming deliveries?

Lastly, is there any chance this will be fluid as the fleet mirrors the MD90 size?

not really. If anything they would probably be parked faster.
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:27 am

Can anyone provide an update to the Regional Jet Refurbishments? Preferably ExpressJet's 700 fleet. To my knowledge, GoJet's 700's and 900's are the only ones fully complete.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:47 am

Do you know if Delta is planning to send more 737 700s for cabin update in the following days? I think 7 are missing moods.

Have a nice day everyone. Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:28 pm

Hemoralesav wrote:
Do you know if Delta is planning to send more 737 700s for cabin update in the following days? I think 7 are missing moods.

Have a nice day everyone. Thanks in advance.


3601 has been in SAL since 1/25, so it should be getting the updates. The other six un-modded '700s are currently flying.


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3151 should exit SAL today
3146 back in service and should have 2Ku
3128 in DTW since 2/7, likely 2Ku install
3229 exited AMA 2/7 with new paint
3254 entered AMA for paint 2/7
3243 still in SAL

The first of the ex-Gol 738s should have gone to SAL to begin mods, but it's unclear if that has actually happened.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:40 pm

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75G N819DX flew from BDL to VQQ yesterday. Perhaps for mods? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N819DX


Nope, she's back in ATL. Once again I guessed wrong. I don't post much, but at least I'm consistent. Consistently wrong! :lol:
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:54 pm

747d10 wrote:
747d10 wrote:
75G N819DX flew from BDL to VQQ yesterday. Perhaps for mods? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N819DX


Nope, she's back in ATL. Once again I guessed wrong. I don't post much, but at least I'm consistent. Consistently wrong! :lol:

I wonder why it went there for 38 1/2 hrs?
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:35 pm

3151 exited SAL and is on her way back to DTW: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N351NB
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:36 pm

New 739 N871DN scheduled to enter revenue service this morning: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N871DN
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:05 pm

TFlintoff24 wrote:
Can anyone provide an update to the Regional Jet Refurbishments? Preferably ExpressJet's 700 fleet. To my knowledge, GoJet's 700's and 900's are the only ones fully complete.


CRJ-900 Mod:

SkyWest: N823SK, N802SK, N822SK, N812SK, N824SK, N803SK, N804SK, N809SK, N825SK, N814SK, N821SK, N817SK, N800SK, N813SK, N810SK, N805SK, N815SK, N816SK, N820SK, N806SK, N548CA, N187PQ, N807SK

Endeavor: N302PQ, N272PQ, N348PQ, N279PQ, N303PQ, N325PQ, N326PQ, N349PQ, N292PQ, N304PQ, N324PQ, N316PQ, N293PQ, N306PQ, N330PQ, N329PQ, N294PQ, N305PQ, N331PQ, N320PQ, N295PQ, N307PQ, N336PQ, N319PQ, N296PQ, N337PQ, N308PQ, N297PQ, N309PQ, N335PQ, N310PQ, N298PQ, N311PQ, N301PQ, N313PQ, N300PQ, N314PQ, N299PQ, N315PQ, N341PQ, N602LR, N925XJ, N604LR, N600LR, N605LR, N601LR, N926XJ, N927XJ, N915XJ, N905XJ, N920XJ, N936XJ, N913XJ, N909XJ

ExpressJet: N606LR, N137EV, N138EV, N607LR, N135EV, N131EV, N200PQ, N136EV, N228PQ, N132EV, N676CA, N134EV, N678CA, N133EV, N232PQ, N691CA, N146PQ, N147PQ, N153PQ, N582CA, N166PQ

GoJet: N181GJ, N182GJ, N183GJ, N184GJ, N185GJ, N186GJ, N187GJ (COMPLETE)


CRJ-700 Mod:

SkyWest: N625CA, N609SK, N641CA, N613SK, N630SK, N632SK, N614SK

GoJet: N354CA, N376CA, N374CA, N355CA, N331CA, N379CA, N658CA, N369CA, N378CA, N642CA, N653CA, N655CA, N368CA, N669CA, N656CA, N668CA, N340CA, N659CA, N317CA, N367CA, N690CA, N390CA (COMPLETE)

ExpressJet: N391CA, N753EV, N744EV, N717EV, N398CA, N758EV, N718EV, N371CA, N719EV, N708EV, N707EV, N748EV, N720EV, N761ND, N712EV, N750EV, N751EV, N752EV, N716EV


E170/175 Mod:

Compass:
    E170: N746CZ, N747CZ, N748CZ, N749CZ, N751CZ, N752CZ (COMPLETE)

      E175: N614CZ, N639CZ, N602CZ, N603CZ, N606CZ, N604CZ, N607CZ, N608CZ, N605CZ, N610CZ, N612CZ, N609CZ, N615CZ, N613CZ, N616CZ, N617CZ, N619CZ, N620CZ, N621CZ, N622CZ, N623CZ, N625CZ, N624CZ, N627CZ, N626CZ, N628CZ, N629CZ, N630CZ, N631CZ, N632CZ, N633CZ, N634CZ, N635CZ, N636CZ, N637CZ, N638CZ (COMPLETE)

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      SkyWest: All aircraft delivered with post-mod spec
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:56 pm

      toneal wrote:
      TFlintoff24 wrote:
      Can anyone provide an update to the Regional Jet Refurbishments? Preferably ExpressJet's 700 fleet. To my knowledge, GoJet's 700's and 900's are the only ones fully complete.


      Awesome!

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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:26 pm

      They are modding the MD90's by removing the 2 seat in the aft and adding a half galley (M9K). The A320 are also removing 3 seats and adding AVOD (32M). They first ones modded have taken to the skies from each fleet. MD 90 AVOD being discussed once 2KU mods have been completed. They are holding on to the MD90 longer and will do ROI analysis.

      The 75G will be 75P with 193 seats.
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:39 pm

      mackdad wrote:
      The 75G will be 75P with 193 seats.


      What is a 75P and why the difference from the 199-seat 75H/75D?
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:05 am

      seabosdca wrote:
      mackdad wrote:
      The 75G will be 75P with 193 seats.


      What is a 75P and why the difference from the 199-seat 75H/75D?


      Probably has to do with the 3L/R doors, but that's purely a guess on my part.
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:28 am

      75P is the new designator for ships 6819-6823. Due to the 3L/R the max seats they could have added was 193. These ships will be ETOPS equiped and will be swapped in and out of Interport operations until NRT gets dismantled.
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:11 pm

      3152 entered SAL last night for mods/2Ku. 6 319s remain with the old cabin.
      3163 RTS with new paint today.
      3243 should exit SAL later today with Phase I mods.
      3817 in ATL for 2Ku as of yesterday 2/10.
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:25 pm

      mackdad wrote:
      They are modding the MD90's by removing the 2 seat in the aft and adding a half galley (M9K). The A320 are also removing 3 seats and adding AVOD (32M). They first ones modded have taken to the skies from each fleet. MD 90 AVOD being discussed once 2KU mods have been completed. They are holding on to the MD90 longer and will do ROI analysis.

      The 75G will be 75P with 193 seats.
      That would be nice to see screens on M90's, since they already do flights like MSP-GEG and DTW-DEN, that would up the customer experience IMO.
      Welcome to the city beautiful.
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:19 pm

      New 321 3017 delivered 2/10.
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:32 pm

      So was anyone ever able to photographically discern the paint difference with the new mica? There is a photo of 542US on another site where the blue looks marginally lighter, but that's it...
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:23 pm

      3134 showing an RTS this afternoon. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N334NB
      3135 appears to be the next into MSP for mods

      Can anyone confirm is 3243 got 2Ku while getting cabin mods?

      3732 set to exit ATL later today (has been there since 1/28). Likely got 2Ku during its visit.
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:06 pm

      I have to imagine the already ordered 739s, 321s, and CS are more than enough lift to replace all of the MD88s...there is just so much capacity coming online...
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:54 pm

      Truly sad to see the MD-88s getting ready to leave. I know we still have the MD-90 and 717, but it just won't be the same!
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:05 pm

      Regarding the 777 refurbishments: The ER prototype is planned to enter into modification in February 2018 and re-
      enter service in June, while the LR prototype is scheduled to complete this upgrade in December 2018.

      Configurations will be 28/48/220
      Panasonic EX3 IFE system
      In-seat power at all seats
      New lavs, lighting, closets, galleys
      3-3-3 seating in main cabin will remain

      According to the 10/2016 fleet newsletter: Rumors of A350 on LAX/SYD are False. The Australia news printed a couple of articles stating the A350 would be put on the Sydney route flown by Delta. This is wrong and is out of sync with our network plans. The A350 in its current configuration cannot make it to SYD. The plan is to keep it on the 777.
       
      audidudi
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:44 pm

      nwa757300 wrote:
      Regarding the 777 refurbishments: The ER prototype is planned to enter into modification in February 2018 and re-
      enter service in June, while the LR prototype is scheduled to complete this upgrade in December 2018.

      Configurations will be 28/48/220
      Panasonic EX3 IFE system
      In-seat power at all seats
      New lavs, lighting, closets, galleys
      3-3-3 seating in main cabin will remain

      If that's true about the 3-3-3 seating in the main cabin, then everyone who will fly on these birds post-mods will certainly be very happy, as they will be similar to today's config and the seats will be more comfortable compared with all the other airlines who are/will be going with the 3-4-3 layout.The current config is 37/36/218 by the way. WAY TO GO DELTA!
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:21 pm

      nwa757300 wrote:
      The A350 in its current configuration cannot make it to SYD. The plan is to keep it on the 777.


      Is this due to the choice of weight variant? A high-gross-weight A350-900 should have no trouble whatsoever with LAX-SYD, even with some cargo.
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:33 pm

      seabosdca wrote:
      nwa757300 wrote:
      The A350 in its current configuration cannot make it to SYD. The plan is to keep it on the 777.


      Is this due to the choice of weight variant? A high-gross-weight A350-900 should have no trouble whatsoever with LAX-SYD, even with some cargo.

      SQ flies the A359 from SFO>SIN which has to be a longer sector than LAX>SYD, and probably does it without any payload penalty. So why would DL's not be able to make it in it's current config?
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:00 pm

      This is all information I saw in black and white. I'm not sure why DL's 350s won't have the range. Seemed very odd to me too.
       
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      Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

      Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:04 am

      http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N3763D

      RTS 2/14/2017- N3763D 737-800
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