User avatar
intotheair
Posts: 1226
Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:49 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:56 am

CONTACREW wrote:
intotheair wrote:
CONTACREW wrote:
I fully expect one of the EWR-LHR 763s to become a 764 especially since sub CO NTA will likely crew DEN-LHR as part of a 6 day pairing (EWR-LHR-DEN-LHR-EWR).


Interesting. How do you think they'll position the aircraft?


DEN is a domestic only base for sub CO so DEN-NRT for example is flown out of the NTA & HOS bases. (Newark intl & Houston language base). The 788 likely will come from NRT, IAD or SFO.

Thanks for that. Looking at next summer's schedules (which could obviously change), there is a 788 on IAD-LHR that arrives and departs within an hour of the DEN-LHR flights. So they likely could have the plane rotate IAD-LHR-DEN-LHR-IAD. Or if they do route the same 788 through NRT and LHR, I think it may be possible to do something like SFO-DEN-NRT-DEN-LHR-IAD-LHR-DEN-SFO. That would mean the plane would sit in DEN for about four hours between NRT-DEN and DEN-LHR, but otherwise that is probably pretty good utilization.

It would be cool to see it somehow do IAD-DEN as that's the only DEN-hub route that doesn't have a widebody on it in any direction, but that's not really anything worth getting too worked up about, and I'm only an armchair CEO!
300 319 320 321 332 333 345 346 717 733 734 735 73G 738 739 744 752 753 762 763 772 CR2 CR7 CR9 Q400 E175 DC10 MD82 MD90
AA AF AS AY AZ B6 BA BR DL F9 FI GA HA KF LH MI QX SK SN SQ UA US VY WN
 
UAL777UK
Posts: 2224
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:16 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:32 am

Wow...DEN-LHR coming back.......so did not see that one coming. Great stuff.
 
FSDan
Posts: 1285
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:27 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:57 pm

intotheair wrote:
And since is the fleet thread, has anyone figured out from where the 788 is positioned and whether or not it'll flow with the DEN-NRT rotation?


The inbound from LHR to DEN couldn't turn to NRT unless they push the NRT departure back at least a few hours. So maybe DEN-NRT will continue to swap with an aircraft on SFO-DEN, while LHR-DEN rotates with the IAD-LHR 788 flight?
This is my signature until I think of a better one.
 
User avatar
cosyr
Posts: 924
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:23 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:28 pm

CONTACREW wrote:
intotheair wrote:
CONTACREW wrote:
I fully expect one of the EWR-LHR 763s to become a 764 especially since sub CO NTA will likely crew DEN-LHR as part of a 6 day pairing (EWR-LHR-DEN-LHR-EWR).


Interesting. How do you think they'll position the aircraft?


DEN is a domestic only base for sub CO so DEN-NRT for example is flown out of the NTA & HOS bases. (Newark intl & Houston language base). So DEN-LHR will have to be flown out of an international base (NTA, HTA,
LAI, SFI, WTA). The 788 likely will come from NRT, IAD or SFO.

Or maybe they will upgauge a 767 somewhere else like IAD or ORD and do an [Hub]-LHR-DEN-LHR-[Hub] turn. It could coincide well with one of the daytime flights at LHR, but since they do DEN-NRT with a tag from IAH, you're probably right about a domestic leg.
 
User avatar
jetblastdubai
Posts: 1675
Joined: Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:23 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:26 pm

DEN-LHR 1735-0940
LHR-DEN 1140-1430

Why not just keep the same plane in a DEN-LHR-DEN rotation. They'd have 2 hours on the ground at LHR and 3 hours on the ground in DEN.

Any A/C routing that involves SFO increases the risk of an irrop fiasco of any subsequent flights. Keep SFO isolated from the rest of the Int'l fleet as the domino effect could muck up a lot of other city pairs.
Every zoo is a petting zoo......if you're a man!
 
User avatar
iahcsr
Posts: 4060
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 1999 2:59 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:52 pm

iahcsr wrote:
789
N26970, the 21st for UA, was to have its B1 out of CHS today.... Didn't happen though :scratchchin:

Ah, but it did today .... Four more then the -10s
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
User avatar
iahcsr
Posts: 4060
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 1999 2:59 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:44 pm

iahcsr wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
789
N26970, the 21st for UA, was to have its B1 out of CHS today.... Didn't happen though :scratchchin:

Ah, but it did today .... Four more then the -10s

789
N26970 CHSVCV 28Jul ( for painting I presume )
77W
N2142U First revenue flight UA535 SFOEWR 28Jul
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
xxcr
Posts: 68
Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:37 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:52 pm

Just a random thought/question.

what would the 744 seat map look like if UA kept them and installed the new Polaris seats? this is something i want to see in a mockup.......even though it'll never happen. RIP 744!!
 
SFOtoORD
Posts: 535
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:26 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:26 am

jetblastdubai wrote:
DEN-LHR 1735-0940
LHR-DEN 1140-1430

Why not just keep the same plane in a DEN-LHR-DEN rotation. They'd have 2 hours on the ground at LHR and 3 hours on the ground in DEN.

Any A/C routing that involves SFO increases the risk of an irrop fiasco of any subsequent flights. Keep SFO isolated from the rest of the Int'l fleet as the domino effect could muck up a lot of other city pairs.


I've experienced far fewer intl delays at SFO than domestic.
 
User avatar
calpsafltskeds
Posts: 2342
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:29 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:16 am

772:
N224UA extied XMN 2774/29Jul
N225UA in HKG, probably to head to XMN

E75L:
N87353 has been delivered to Mesa

E145X:
N13161 now flying with CommutAir
sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/
 
jetero
Posts: 916
Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:45 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:23 am

SFOtoORD wrote:
jetblastdubai wrote:
DEN-LHR 1735-0940
LHR-DEN 1140-1430

Why not just keep the same plane in a DEN-LHR-DEN rotation. They'd have 2 hours on the ground at LHR and 3 hours on the ground in DEN.

Any A/C routing that involves SFO increases the risk of an irrop fiasco of any subsequent flights. Keep SFO isolated from the rest of the Int'l fleet as the domino effect could muck up a lot of other city pairs.


I've experienced far fewer intl delays at SFO than domestic.


That's sort of by design. When there's an air traffic delay, UA (as any other airline) gets to select which flights to get delayed.

(Hence the reason when you search for a flight and get delay results, most are 90% and some are 50%. Having lived in SFO, I rarely had any problem with delays, except when I booked the last DL flight from SLC to SFO, that was probably a 75% chance of a 2 hour + delay. That flight was evidently the sacrificial lamb.)
 
SFOtoORD
Posts: 535
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:26 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:39 am

jetero wrote:
SFOtoORD wrote:
jetblastdubai wrote:
DEN-LHR 1735-0940
LHR-DEN 1140-1430

Why not just keep the same plane in a DEN-LHR-DEN rotation. They'd have 2 hours on the ground at LHR and 3 hours on the ground in DEN.

Any A/C routing that involves SFO increases the risk of an irrop fiasco of any subsequent flights. Keep SFO isolated from the rest of the Int'l fleet as the domino effect could muck up a lot of other city pairs.


I've experienced far fewer intl delays at SFO than domestic.


That's sort of by design. When there's an air traffic delay, UA (as any other airline) gets to select which flights to get delayed.

(Hence the reason when you search for a flight and get delay results, most are 90% and some are 50%. Having lived in SFO, I rarely had any problem with delays, except when I booked the last DL flight from SLC to SFO, that was probably a 75% chance of a 2 hour + delay. That flight was evidently the sacrificial lamb.)


Right. And thus why it doesn't matter if the DEN-LHR aircraft rotates through SFO which was the original point.
 
cruiseshipcrew
Posts: 213
Joined: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:30 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:26 pm

xxcr wrote:
Just a random thought/question.

what would the 744 seat map look like if UA kept them and installed the new Polaris seats? this is something i want to see in a mockup.......even though it'll never happen. RIP 744!!


I would think it would actually be very similar to Delta's 747 seat maps. https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Delta ... -400_C.php
Road Warrior
 
User avatar
iahcsr
Posts: 4060
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 1999 2:59 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:12 pm

777W
N2138U It would seem this one didn't get as much induction work done while stuck at PAE as I thought. It's been at SFO since 25July.
N2243U Still at PAE getting Polaris-ed. Should be ready for SEA 7/8 Aug.... hopefully.
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
User avatar
iahcsr
Posts: 4060
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 1999 2:59 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:23 pm

A319
There are currently seven exCZ in service. The eighth is at LCQ undergoing major mechanical plastic surgery and won't expect to see it till late Oct/Nov. Supposedly three more are to come from CZ by year end. Does anyone have info on when any of these next ones are to do the SHENRTANCLCQ run? :scratchchin: :wave:
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
User avatar
KVH68
Posts: 65
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:09 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:42 pm

iahcsr wrote:
777W
N2138U It would seem this one didn't get as much induction work done while stuck at PAE as I thought. It's been at SFO since 25July.
N2243U Still at PAE getting Polaris-ed. Should be ready for SEA 7/8 Aug.... hopefully.


Induction for N2138U is complete. It is currently still at SFO having the SATCOM mod performed.
 
User avatar
iahcsr
Posts: 4060
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 1999 2:59 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:33 am

KVH68 wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
777W
N2138U It would seem this one didn't get as much induction work done while stuck at PAE as I thought. It's been at SFO since 25July.
N2243U Still at PAE getting Polaris-ed. Should be ready for SEA 7/8 Aug.... hopefully.


Induction for N2138U is complete. It is currently still at SFO having the SATCOM mod performed.

I would've thought that part of the induction process... unless it's a new mod and 38 is first to get it. Oh well, as long as it all works when it flys :bigthumbsup:
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
User avatar
KVH68
Posts: 65
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:09 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:35 am

iahcsr wrote:
KVH68 wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
777W
N2138U It would seem this one didn't get as much induction work done while stuck at PAE as I thought. It's been at SFO since 25July.
N2243U Still at PAE getting Polaris-ed. Should be ready for SEA 7/8 Aug.... hopefully.


Induction for N2138U is complete. It is currently still at SFO having the SATCOM mod performed.

I would've thought that part of the induction process... unless it's a new mod and 38 is first to get it. Oh well, as long as it all works when it flys :bigthumbsup:


It is a new mod. All the United 77W will go to SFO for the mod.
 
User avatar
calpsafltskeds
Posts: 2342
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:29 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:23 am

77W:
N2243U sked to exit PAE, delivery flight to SEA Induction 2287/5Aug (actually already delivered at PAE)

UAX
E145X:
N12160 now flying with CommutAir

E145:
N14920 has left the fleet. Aircraft sold.
sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/
 
User avatar
iahcsr
Posts: 4060
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 1999 2:59 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:42 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
77W:
N2243U sked to exit PAE, delivery flight to SEA Induction 2287/5Aug (actually already delivered at PAE)

UAX
E145X:
N12160 now flying with CommutAir

E145:
N14920 has left the fleet. Aircraft sold.

77W
N2243U Didn't want to wait till tomorrow. Flew PAESEA as UA2687 4Aug
Only 44U left at PAE. Next four come '18. Rumor has it there might be a few more ... We'll see.
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
User avatar
iahcsr
Posts: 4060
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 1999 2:59 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:27 am

789
N26970 VCVCHS Back from paint... Look'n all fancy smancy now
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
77H
Posts: 531
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:27 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:51 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
77W:
N2243U sked to exit PAE, delivery flight to SEA Induction 2287/5Aug (actually already delivered at PAE)

UAX
E145X:
N12160 now flying with CommutAir

E145:
N14920 has left the fleet. Aircraft sold.


Do you know when the first 753 goes in for slimline mod? I think I remember reading on this thread it was happening in August.

77H
 
jumbojet
Posts: 1700
Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:01 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:57 am

sorry if this has already been posted but its difficult to find through the 22 pages of text. United has one more 787-900 on the order books. Will it come with the standard United Business First layout/seat or will it come delivered with the new Polaris seat? Thanks
 
User avatar
atcsundevil
Crew
Posts: 1761
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:22 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:45 pm

jumbojet wrote:
sorry if this has already been posted but its difficult to find through the 22 pages of text. United has one more 787-900 on the order books. Will it come with the standard United Business First layout/seat or will it come delivered with the new Polaris seat? Thanks

Definitely in the domestic F seat. I suppose there's a possibility that the 737-10s could have a lieflat subfleet, but that move would be at least a few years away.
Forum Moderator
 
SFOtoORD
Posts: 535
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:26 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:50 pm

atcsundevil wrote:
jumbojet wrote:
sorry if this has already been posted but its difficult to find through the 22 pages of text. United has one more 787-900 on the order books. Will it come with the standard United Business First layout/seat or will it come delivered with the new Polaris seat? Thanks

Definitely in the domestic F seat. I suppose there's a possibility that the 737-10s could have a lieflat subfleet, but that move would be at least a few years away.


I think he meant the 787-9. IIRC the last one would still be getting the old seat.
 
User avatar
atcsundevil
Crew
Posts: 1761
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:22 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:30 pm

SFOtoORD wrote:
atcsundevil wrote:
jumbojet wrote:
sorry if this has already been posted but its difficult to find through the 22 pages of text. United has one more 787-900 on the order books. Will it come with the standard United Business First layout/seat or will it come delivered with the new Polaris seat? Thanks

Definitely in the domestic F seat. I suppose there's a possibility that the 737-10s could have a lieflat subfleet, but that move would be at least a few years away.


I think he meant the 787-9. IIRC the last one would still be getting the old seat.

D'oh! I read 737-900. I'm used to being 787-9 without the added zeros. That's what I get for posting before having caffeine.

In any case, you're right, still no Polaris. They were ordered and seats requisitioned before Polaris came along. It seems silly, but these things obviously require a lot of lead time. The next 787-10s will arrive with Polaris, however. Those deliveries start sometime in the second half of next year, I believe.
Forum Moderator
 
jumbojet
Posts: 1700
Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:01 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:21 pm

atcsundevil wrote:
SFOtoORD wrote:
atcsundevil wrote:
Definitely in the domestic F seat. I suppose there's a possibility that the 737-10s could have a lieflat subfleet, but that move would be at least a few years away.


I think he meant the 787-9. IIRC the last one would still be getting the old seat.

D'oh! I read 737-900. I'm used to being 787-9 without the added zeros. That's what I get for posting before having caffeine.

In any case, you're right, still no Polaris. They were ordered and seats requisitioned before Polaris came along. It seems silly, but these things obviously require a lot of lead time. The next 787-10s will arrive with Polaris, however. Those deliveries start sometime in the second half of next year, I believe.


I also posted before my morning cup of coffee. I should have put 787-9. Thanks for the answers. I read somewhere, probably on Anet, that United plans on sending the 787 fleet pretty quickly for the new Polaris seat. It seems such a waste of capital (or is CAPEX more appropriate?) to send nearly brand new 787's for seat mods so quickly.
 
United1
Posts: 3221
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:21 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:30 pm

jumbojet wrote:
atcsundevil wrote:
SFOtoORD wrote:

I think he meant the 787-9. IIRC the last one would still be getting the old seat.

D'oh! I read 737-900. I'm used to being 787-9 without the added zeros. That's what I get for posting before having caffeine.

In any case, you're right, still no Polaris. They were ordered and seats requisitioned before Polaris came along. It seems silly, but these things obviously require a lot of lead time. The next 787-10s will arrive with Polaris, however. Those deliveries start sometime in the second half of next year, I believe.


I also posted before my morning cup of coffee. I should have put 787-9. Thanks for the answers. I read somewhere, probably on Anet, that United plans on sending the 787 fleet pretty quickly for the new Polaris seat. It seems such a waste of capital (or is CAPEX more appropriate?) to send nearly brand new 787's for seat mods so quickly.


The 788s and 789s aren't slated to get the Polaris hard product for a couple of years....the 3 cabin 763s and 77Es are next up.

https://thepointsguy.com/2017/07/united ... irst-look/
I know the voices in my head aren't real but sometimes their ideas are just awesome!!!
 
User avatar
iahcsr
Posts: 4060
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 1999 2:59 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:51 am

atcsundevil wrote:
SFOtoORD wrote:
atcsundevil wrote:
In any case, you're right, still no Polaris. They were ordered and seats requisitioned before Polaris came along. It seems silly, but these things obviously require a lot of lead time. The next 787-10s will arrive with Polaris, however. Those deliveries start sometime in the second half of next year, I believe.

The next UA 789 is Ln 591 and will deliver this month. The first 78J is Ln 731. Don't know off hand what the 787 production rate is..
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
User avatar
atcsundevil
Crew
Posts: 1761
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:22 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:17 am

jumbojet wrote:
I also posted before my morning cup of coffee. I should have put 787-9. Thanks for the answers. I read somewhere, probably on Anet, that United plans on sending the 787 fleet pretty quickly for the new Polaris seat. It seems such a waste of capital (or is CAPEX more appropriate?) to send nearly brand new 787's for seat mods so quickly.

As far as I know, the 787-8/787-9 fleets are the last scheduled to receive new seats. I agree it's a waste of money to throw new-old seats out, but these aircraft are operating some seriously long routes and prestige routes (especially to Australia and SFO-SIN), and could really use the competitive benefit of Polaris sooner than later.

I believe the current retrofit schedule has the remaining 3-class 763s going in now, followed by/potentially concurrent with 3-class 772, then 2-class 772. I assume the 764 will go in after that, but I it think I've read anything specific to that yet. The 787-8/9 last (I think around 2019?), with no plans so far to retrofit the 752s.

Hopefully Zodiac can get their act together and pump out the seats at a good enough rate to get these retrofits moving. The 763 mods are lengthy (something like 3-4 months) because they're completely gutting the cabins, installing winglets, and making a few other mods. I would assume the 772 installs should move much quicker being a simple seat swap with likely some minor moves to closets/lavs/bulkheads/galleys possible, but it's most likely dependent on Zodiac to produce the seats quickly enough. I think UA should have steered clear of Zodiac given their known production issues, but it's a little late for that now.
Forum Moderator
 
strfyr51
Posts: 2407
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:04 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:59 am

intotheair wrote:
Who wants to bet there will be some sort of announcement from United+Airbus this month?

I'll bet there won't be
 
User avatar
iahcsr
Posts: 4060
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 1999 2:59 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:15 am

77W
N2138U First $ flight UA726 SFOEWR 9Aug. Thanks to the Polaris problems this one was stuck at PAE after its younger sisters 39U-42U have been in service awhile.
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
User avatar
calpsafltskeds
Posts: 2342
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:29 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:28 am

73G:
N24729 exited HOU 2775/6Aug - didn't get slimlines in short stay

763:
N670UA entered MIA 2779/9Aug

UAX from another contributor of another thread
E175:
N87353 entered revenue service with Mesa 8Aug

Updates on Regional carriers:
ExpressJet has signed an additional 5-year contract for E145 flying out of Houston
CommutAir drawdown of Dash-8 aircraft will speed up, last flight out of EWR will be 31Oct with IAD turboprop flying to end by Feb 2018.
Air Wisconsin should begin CR2 (looks like ORD and IAD) flying for United in October.
sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/
 
User avatar
calpsafltskeds
Posts: 2342
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:29 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:45 am

738:
N17245 exited MIA 2795/10Aug with slimlines and scimitars. all 137 738s now have scimitars
Just 4 more 739s need scimitars in entire 737NG fleet

763:
N661UA exited MIA 2793/10Aug
sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/
 
VC10er
Posts: 2751
Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:25 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:42 pm

I'm sure UA has thought of this, but was probably way too much of a disruption: I agree that all the 787s with the new Polaris seat would be their best aircraft experience overall, especially to the markets they fly to like Australia and Singapore (as previously mentioned), but I was thinking that the newer version of the current seat (now on the 787) could removed and put on TATL 752's and new Polaris seats put on the 787s asap. Sitting and sleeping next to a stranger for 16/18 hours and climb overs puts those great United routes FAR behind the competition on those destinations. Basically just swap ac that gets the new old diamond seats and new Polaris on 787s to help close the product gap on high premium ULH routes.
Polaris may not be as great as Singapore Business Class, but Polaris ain't bad! Enough privacy, all aisle access and true to its promise, attractive and provides a great bed for sleeping.
Funny how quickly spoiled we humans get. Once upon a time (20 years ago) a comfortable recliner with 6/8 movie choices was enough!
The world is missing love, let's use our flights to spread it!
 
User avatar
atcsundevil
Crew
Posts: 1761
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:22 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:25 pm

VC10er wrote:
I'm sure UA has thought of this, but was probably way too much of a disruption: I agree that all the 787s with the new Polaris seat would be their best aircraft experience overall, especially to the markets they fly to like Australia and Singapore (as previously mentioned), but I was thinking that the newer version of the current seat (now on the 787) could removed and put on TATL 752's and new Polaris seats put on the 787s asap. Sitting and sleeping next to a stranger for 16/18 hours and climb overs puts those great United routes FAR behind the competition on those destinations. Basically just swap ac that gets the new old diamond seats and new Polaris on 787s to help close the product gap on high premium ULH routes.
Polaris may not be as great as Singapore Business Class, but Polaris ain't bad! Enough privacy, all aisle access and true to its promise, attractive and provides a great bed for sleeping.
Funny how quickly spoiled we humans get. Once upon a time (20 years ago) a comfortable recliner with 6/8 movie choices was enough!

Just because it's the same seat model and everything looks the same doesn't mean that it is the same. The dimensions of that seat vary from the 757 to the 767 to the 777 to the 787. Even with Polaris, the 77W seat is a completely different dimension than that of the 763. Someone else would know in more detail than me, but I'm fairly sure the dimensions of the 787 diamond seat would not fit on the 752s. I agree that if it were an option it would be a great option to get Polaris in the 787s and update the 752s, because the 752 cabins (save for p.s.) are getting pretty dated, but I don't believe it's possible.
Forum Moderator
 
User avatar
cosyr
Posts: 924
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:23 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:45 pm

VC10er wrote:
Funny how quickly spoiled we humans get. Once upon a time (20 years ago) a comfortable recliner with 6/8 movie choices was enough!

And remember the tape decks on the 747 in F? Tom Cruise seemed pretty cool popping one of those into the armrest in Mission Impossible.
 
VC10er
Posts: 2751
Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:25 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:42 am

cosyr wrote:
VC10er wrote:
Funny how quickly spoiled we humans get. Once upon a time (20 years ago) a comfortable recliner with 6/8 movie choices was enough!

And remember the tape decks on the 747 in F? Tom Cruise seemed pretty cool popping one of those into the armrest in Mission Impossible.


Yes, I sure do! And not just a 747. And they were always put in a strange plastic (like tan woven cellophane) wicker trays! I think Ocean's 11 was in the wicker basket for 2 years! I also vividly recall when they put in the first bed seat in F. It was not very attractive, 50 shades of neutral greyish tan: tan, cool and warm grey, and then taupe and some teal (not a UA color!) However, much better than the previous F seat.

Does anyone recall the napkin sculptures the FA's made?
The world is missing love, let's use our flights to spread it!
 
User avatar
iahcsr
Posts: 4060
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 1999 2:59 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:08 am

738
N77539 Delivered UA2686 BFIMIA 11 Aug. MIA seems an odd delivery location.. :scratchchin:
Working Hard, Flying Right Friendly....
 
boefan
Posts: 924
Joined: Tue May 27, 2014 6:33 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:04 am

iahcsr wrote:
738
N77539 Delivered UA2686 BFIMIA 11 Aug. MIA seems an odd delivery location.. :scratchchin:


The aircraft was produced without winglets at all .
Same goes with the remaining 738s
 
User avatar
adamblang
Posts: 773
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:47 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:08 pm

I don't recall if I've seen anything posted in this thread but I flew on an ex-CZ 319 the other day.

Image

It had the new first product, blue signature economy seats, new bins, updated bulkheads, WiFi with PDE, and in-seat power – the whole shebang. Was a pleasant ride!

I'd be curious to know if blue seat covers are replacing gray seat covers and if new bulkheads are replacing old bulkheads on the non-CZ frames.
146 319 320 321 332 333 717 734 735 73G 738 739 744 752 753 763 764 772 789 AR1 AT4 CNA CR2 CR7 DC9 ER3 ERD ER4 E70 E75 E90
 
User avatar
Continental767
Posts: 59
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:22 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:39 pm

boefan wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
738
N77539 Delivered UA2686 BFIMIA 11 Aug. MIA seems an odd delivery location.. :scratchchin:


The aircraft was produced without winglets at all .
Same goes with the remaining 738s


Do you know of any photos?
Indianapolis.
 
boefan
Posts: 924
Joined: Tue May 27, 2014 6:33 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:50 pm

Continental767 wrote:
boefan wrote:
iahcsr wrote:
738
N77539 Delivered UA2686 BFIMIA 11 Aug. MIA seems an odd delivery location.. :scratchchin:


The aircraft was produced without winglets at all .
Same goes with the remaining 738s


Do you know of any photos?


https://twitter.com/dwhonan/status/893508355016105984
 
DC8FanJet
Posts: 185
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:25 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:29 pm

adamblang wrote:
I don't recall if I've seen anything posted in this thread but I flew on an ex-CZ 319 the other day.

Image

It had the new first product, blue signature economy seats, new bins, updated bulkheads, WiFi with PDE, and in-seat power – the whole shebang. Was a pleasant ride!

I'd be curious to know if blue seat covers are replacing gray seat covers and if new bulkheads are replacing old bulkheads on the non-CZ frames.


Blue covers are the standard, gray will be replaced on the few Airbuses that have it
 
User avatar
adamblang
Posts: 773
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:47 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:11 am

DC8FanJet wrote:
Blue covers are the standard, gray will be replaced on the few Airbuses that have it

At one point something like 75% of the Airbus fleet had gray seat covers. Is there any published source that indicates what that's like today? It seems like any time I see a photo of a United Airbus cabin – social media, news, whatever – it's got gray seats.
146 319 320 321 332 333 717 734 735 73G 738 739 744 752 753 763 764 772 789 AR1 AT4 CNA CR2 CR7 DC9 ER3 ERD ER4 E70 E75 E90
 
User avatar
atcsundevil
Crew
Posts: 1761
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:22 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:48 am

adamblang wrote:
DC8FanJet wrote:
Blue covers are the standard, gray will be replaced on the few Airbuses that have it

At one point something like 75% of the Airbus fleet had gray seat covers. Is there any published source that indicates what that's like today? It seems like any time I see a photo of a United Airbus cabin – social media, news, whatever – it's got gray seats.

I haven't had a chance to try out the new 737 Y signature seats — do you know how those compare comfort/dimension wise to the seats on the Airbus? Regardless of seat color, the Airbus Y seats are some of the most uncomfortable seats I've ever sat in on any airline. I had the misfortune of sitting in Y- on a 320 a couple of months back for the first time (I'm always in F/Y+), and it was atrociously tight. I really hope they haven't done the same with the 737 fleet, because that pitch was rough. I think the worst part is that the bottom cushion of the seat isn't long enough...it feels very awkward.
Forum Moderator
 
User avatar
adamblang
Posts: 773
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:47 pm

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:14 am

My butt and back like the 737 Y seats more than the Airbus Y seats. I feel about the same after a 4 hour 737 flight as I do after a 2 hour Airbus flight.

I think the 737 Y seats might the same seat as the 787 and 10-abreast 777 Y seats? They look mighty similar, like they might be the same seat with slightly different optioning.
146 319 320 321 332 333 717 734 735 73G 738 739 744 752 753 763 764 772 789 AR1 AT4 CNA CR2 CR7 DC9 ER3 ERD ER4 E70 E75 E90
 
User avatar
Super80Fan
Posts: 185
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:14 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:18 am

Pardon me for my ignorance but with all the 737's/A320's going in for new slimline Y seats do they all have power-ports at every seat or is it on select aircraft only?
 
United1
Posts: 3221
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:21 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:33 am

Super80Fan wrote:
Pardon me for my ignorance but with all the 737's/A320's going in for new slimline Y seats do they all have power-ports at every seat or is it on select aircraft only?


Airbus 319/320s have power in F/Y+
Boeing 737-7/8/9 have power in F/Y+
Boeing 737-900ER have nose to tail power
I know the voices in my head aren't real but sometimes their ideas are just awesome!!!
 
User avatar
Super80Fan
Posts: 185
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:14 am

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:46 am

United1 wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
Pardon me for my ignorance but with all the 737's/A320's going in for new slimline Y seats do they all have power-ports at every seat or is it on select aircraft only?


Airbus 319/320s have power in F/Y+
Boeing 737-7/8/9 have power in F/Y+
Boeing 737-900ER have nose to tail power


Thanks for the info!

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos