United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

UAinAUS · Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:30 am

UAX fleet summary as at Jan 1, 2017

In 2016:
21 50-seater jets were removed from service (5 CR2s, 16 ER4s)
Entire fleet of Q400s were removed from service.
39 76-seat E175s were delivered.
Gogo wifi and Streaming PDE added to almost entire fleet of CR7, E170, and E175
31 CR7s removed from service (4 more in exit prep)

Jan 2017 UAX Fleet & 2017 Outlook:

CRJ-200 fleet: 70 Total (50 operated by Skywest for UAX plus 20 operated by Skywest on pro-rate arrangement) - reductions continue in 2017

CRJ-700 fleet: 84 total (39 Skywest, 20 Mesa, 25 GoJet) - reductions continue in 2017

E170 fleet: 38 total (33 Republic, 5 Shuttle America) - full transition to Republic early 2017

E175 fleet: 122 total (58 Skywest, 48 Mesa, 16 Republic) - fleet additions continue in 2017 to Skywest and Republic

ERJ-145 fleet: 192 total (146 ExpressJet, 36 TransStates, 10 Commutair) - fleet transition continues in 2017 from XJT to both TSA and Commutair, fleet exits continue in 2017

ERJ-135 fleet: 5 total (all ExpressJet) - likely elimination of type in 2017

Q200 fleet: 16 total (all Commutair) - no changes anticipated

Q300 fleet: 5 total (all Commutair) - likely drawdown or elimination of type in 2017

ATR42 fleet: 2 total (all Cape Air) - no changes anticipated

bmibaby737 · Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:45 pm

UAinAUS wrote:
UAX fleet summary as at Jan 1, 2017

In 2016:
21 50-seater jets were removed from service (5 CR2s, 16 ER4s)
Entire fleet of Q400s were removed from service.
39 76-seat E175s were delivered.
Gogo wifi and Streaming PDE added to almost entire fleet of CR7, E170, and E175
31 CR7s removed from service (4 more in exit prep)

Jan 2017 UAX Fleet & 2017 Outlook:

CRJ-200 fleet: 70 Total (50 operated by Skywest for UAX plus 20 operated by Skywest on pro-rate arrangement) - reductions continue in 2017

CRJ-700 fleet: 84 total (39 Skywest, 20 Mesa, 25 GoJet) - reductions continue in 2017

E170 fleet: 38 total (33 Republic, 5 Shuttle America) - full transition to Republic early 2017

E175 fleet: 122 total (58 Skywest, 48 Mesa, 16 Republic) - fleet additions continue in 2017 to Skywest and Republic

ERJ-145 fleet: 192 total (146 ExpressJet, 36 TransStates, 10 Commutair) - fleet transition continues in 2017 from XJT to both TSA and Commutair, fleet exits continue in 2017

ERJ-135 fleet: 5 total (all ExpressJet) - likely elimination of type in 2017

Q200 fleet: 16 total (all Commutair) - no changes anticipated

Q300 fleet: 5 total (all Commutair) - likely drawdown or elimination of type in 2017

ATR42 fleet: 2 total (all Cape Air) - no changes anticipated

Nice summary! Cape Air now have three ATRs though, N45838 was delivered during December.

UAinAUS · Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:35 am

bmibaby737 wrote:
Nice summary! Cape Air now have three ATRs though, N45838 was delivered during December.

Nice catch, thanks mate! I hadn't been paying enough attention to the Cape Air fleet out in Guam. Correction noted!

calpsafltskeds · Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:05 am

764:
N78060 sked to enter HKG 2160/3Jan

772:
N212UA should be en route HKG for Domestic Version #6 conversion (HNL now). There should be exactly the number of Lie-flat window pairs for the conversion from 8 completed and in-mod 772A units in HKG for N212UA and completed N779UA.

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Now for a 2017 Full Update - Updated 1/1/17

IN PROCESS INTERIOR/EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS

POLARIS BF SEATS: 2/138 = 1.4%
763 - 0/35
764 - 0/16
772 - 0/55
773 - 2/2 (14 new deliveries to come by May 2017)
788 - 0/12
789 - 0/18 (5 new deliveries to come, 3 in 2017)

WiFi Installation: Mainline, 726 of 726 complete, 100% (excludes 11 GUM 73NGs)
IN PROCESS:
E175 - (117/122): gogo - (Mesa/Skywest/Republic)
C700 - (80/89): gogo - (GoJet/Mesa/Skywest)
COMPLETED:
A319 -(58/58): COMPLETED - SAT KU (WiFi/PDE)
A320 -(97/97): COMPLETED - SAT KU (WiFi/PDE)
73G - (36/40*): COMPLETED - SAT KA - (*Excluding GUM units 3712/3723/3726/3727)
738 - (129/136*): COMPLETED - SAT KA (*Excluding GUM units 3201,3293-3299)
739A- (12/12): COMPLETED - SAT KA
739E- (136/136): COMPLETED - SAT KA
744 - (20/20): COMPLETED - SAT KU (WiFi/PDE)
752 - (56/56): COMPLETED gogo on All 15 p.s. units, SAT KU 3101-3141 Int'l units
753 - (21/21): COMPLERTED - 9 SAT KA (sCO), 12 SAT KU (ex TZ WiFi Stream/PDE)
763 - (35/35): COMPLETED - SAT KU
764 - (16/16): COMPLETED - SAT KU
772A- (19/19): COMPLETED - SAT KU: ITPE(4) Pacific: (8) Domestic (7)
772E- (55/55): COMPLETED - SAT KU
773E- (2/2) : 14 Fleet Deliveries by early 2017
788 - (12/12): COMPLETED - SAT KU
789 - (18/18): COMPLETED - SAT KU - (All new deliveries come with Intl WiFi/PDE)
E170- (38/38): COMPLETED - gogo - (Shuttle America/Republic)

737NG New Slimline Y seats: (250/325 = 76.9%)
B/E Aerospace Pinnacle for (73G 12F/36E+/78Y) (738 16F/54E+/96Y=166, 16F/48E+/102Y=166@ or 16F/42E+/108Y=166**)(739 20F/42E+/117Y=179 or 20F/39E+/120Y=179*)
73G: 3718
738: (119/137) 3201-3205,3207,3209,3211-3218,3220-3221,3223-3244,3246-3281,3283-3292,3293**-3299**,3501-3507-3510,3512-3513,3515-3518,3524,3530@, 3532@-3538@
739A: (7/12) 3401-3407
739E: (122/136) 3413-3421,3424-3426,3428-3437,3439-3442,3443*-3444*,3446*-3447*,3449*,3451*-3463*,3466*,3468*,3470*-3476*,3478*-3479*,3801*-3810*,3811-3849,3880-3899

737NG Split Scimitar Wingets (303/325 = 91.6%)
73G: (38/40): Without 3701/3710
738: (133/137): Without 3208/3210/3219/3245
739A: (6/12): Without 3405,3408-3412
739E: (126/136): Without 3422,3427,3433,3438,3445,3464-3465,3467,3469,3477

A319/A320 New F Seats/In Seat Power (ISP) F/E+ (96/158 = 51.6%)
319: (51/61): 802-815,818,821-824,826-832,834-839,841,843-845,847-850,852-855,889-894
320: (45/97): 401-402,404,406,414,416-417,419-420,422,424,426,428,430,437,443,445-449,451,454-455,457,467-468,470-478,481,485,487,489,493-497

New Domestic/Hawaii Configuration for ALL 772A aircraft - 28BF Lie Flat/336Y (10 across Y)
B772A Hawaiian(1/9=0%) COMPLETED 779 - - - - - - - IN MOD: 212
B772A ITPE(6/10=50%) COMPLETED: 771,776-778,780-781 - IN MOD: 769, 774

763 2 Class mod for 21 aircraft: (Other 14: 664-677 completed in 2012/13)
B763 (7/21=23.8%) 652-653,657-658,661-663 Complete - In HKG mod: None

753 110V Power F/E+: 10/12 TZ build: without 3863,3868 (to receive with slimline mod)

COMPLETED MODIFICATION PROGRAMS

>>>>PAINT United - Mainline COMPLETED = ALL 737
A319 (61/61) - A320 (97/97)[475 UA Retro]
B73G (40/40) [3720 Star] - B738 (137/137) [3210/3516 Star] - B739A sCO (12/12) - B739E (136/136) [sCO 67/sUA 69 - [3435 CO Retro, 3432 eco-skies, 3848 March of Dimes]
B744 (20/20)
B752 (56/56)[sCO 41, sUA 15] [3120 Star]- B753 (sCO 21/21)
B763 (35/35) [653 Star] - B764 (16/16) [3055 Star]
B772 (74/74)[sUA 19A, 33ER, sCO 22][218/794/3017/3021/3022 Star - Star paint are all ER models]
B773 (2/2) 2331-2332
B788 (12/12) - B789 (18/18)
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>>>>PAINT United Express - Express COMPLETED = 529 Express REMAINING = 0
CRJ-200 SkyWest (64/64*) COMPLETED (*Up to 11 other Skywest House units may float between AA/AS/DL/UA)
ERJ-135 ExpressJet (5/5) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet [ex CO/UA] (89/89) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145 Trans States (1/1) (*not included: 811HK-812HK Trans States House float AA/US/UA)
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (52/52) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145XR Trans States (35/35) COMPLETED.
ERJ-145XR Commutair (15/15) COMPLETED. 10 flying, 5 in prep
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (5/5) COMPLETED.
ERJ-170 Republic (33/33) COMPLETED.
ERJ-175 Mesa (48/48) ALL NEW DELIVERIES.
ERJ-175 Sky West (58/58) ALL NEW DELIVERIES.
ERJ-175 Republic (16/16) ALL NEW DELIVERIES.
CRJ-700 GoJet (25/25) COMPLETED.
CRJ-700 Mesa (20/20) COMPLETED.
CRJ-700 SkyWest (39/39) COMPLETED.
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
ATR 42-320 Cape Air (3/3) COMPLETED.
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PAINT TOTALS: Mainline 737/737=100%, Express 529/529=100%, Combined 1266/1266=100%

Hawaii Configuration for Select 772A aircraft - 32Business*/312Y (*7 across recliners)
B722A (9/9=100%) COMPLETED In-Seat Power: 9/9 COMPLETED

Guam 738/73G reassignment: (GUM now 11 vs. 12 units)
To GUM: 738s(7), 3293-3299- 73Gs(4), 3712,3723,3726-3727
From GUM: 738s(8), 3201,3227,3232,3235-3236,3240,3246,3249 73Gs(3), 3720,3734-3736 (WiFi/PDE/ISP F/E+)
GUM aircraft: scimitars, seatback looped IFE, no WiFi - 738s have slimline E+ 16F/42E+/104Y

sCO Economy Plus mainline conversion - COMPLETED

Fleets Removed from UA Fleet
B1900D Silver Gulfstream, SAAB 340, EMB120 and Q400, sUA 752 domestic, 762, 735

744 In-Seat Power in Y (20/20)

New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for sCO International fleet
B752 (41/41=100%) - B764 (16/16=100%) - B772 (22/22=100%) - 788 (12/12=100%)- 789 (18/18) TOTAL (109/109=100%)

753 ETOPS: (100%] CO Build (9/9) - TZ Build (12/12)

Airbus new interior bin doors
A319 61/61 N8xxUA) (A320 97/97 N4xxUA)

New Slimline Y Recaro 3520 seats:
A319: (61/61) 8F/42E+/78Y=128
A320: (97/97) 12F/42E+/96Y=150

752: New ps Configuration (15/15=100%)- 502,505,510,512,518,546,568,587-590,595-598

New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies
B772(40/40=100%): - Complete (772A 7/7*, 772ER 33/33) *fleet going Domestic
B744 (20/20=100%) - Complete
B763 (15/15=100%) - Complete - B763 (20/20 =100%)/[2 Cabin] - Complete
TOTAL INTL(95/95=100%)[exlcudes 13 HI/Dom aircraft]

DirecTV (216* sCO aircraft) [*Not Counting GUM, Ex-GUM, Ex-TZ, Ex-Copa, 2016 and later deliveries]
73G*- 28/40* [100%] (4 Ex-Copa & 4 Ex-GUM with streaming WiFi/PDE - 4 GUM units have PTV)
738*- 115/137 [83.9%] - (8 former GUM units and 3531 & up with PDE - 7 GUM units have PTV)
739A- 12/12 [100%]
739E- 52/67 [76.5%] - (3465-3479, have streaming WiFi/PDE)
753 - 9/9 [100%] - (excluding Ex TZ units 3860-3871 with streaming WiFi/PDE)

adamblang · Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:54 am

Thank you UAinAUS and calpsafltskeds for the recaps!

intotheair · Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:40 am

Who wants to bet there will be some sort of announcement from United+Airbus this month?

cosyr · Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:32 pm

Wow! This thread has been going long enough for us to have completed the pmCO BF seats and the pmUA J seats and now we're starting again with Polaris.

iahcsr · Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:05 pm

intotheair wrote:
Who wants to bet there will be some sort of announcement from United+Airbus this month?

I would, but I'm fairly certain I'd lose. :bouncy:

SQ22 · Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:50 pm

I apologize for being a bit late with opening the new thread. As mentioned in the old thread we have discussed threads line this internally and we will keep it on an annual base in the future, so please continue your discussion and to post your updates here.

Link to previous thread:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=605861

FlyHossD · Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:58 pm

intotheair wrote:
Who wants to bet there will be some sort of announcement from United+Airbus this month?

If not this month, then probably this quarter. I suspect we'll see A330s at UAL.

fun2fly · Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:46 pm

intotheair wrote:
Who wants to bet there will be some sort of announcement from United+Airbus this month?

The 10k forces their hand. UA is scheduled for Jan 19 release so we will know what the arrangement is then. As well, we will verify when the final two 789s arrive in Dec 2017 as allthings787 reports in his blog or as other say in 2018. We should also figure out what trades were made with Boeing on the 73G cancellation and if any additional 77Ws were ordered according to the anetters.

atcsundevil · Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:03 pm

I feel like I'm missing a critical piece of information! Could somebody fill me in? I expected the cancelled 737 orders to be converted to more 77Ws (I think many of us anticipated them ordering more 77Ws for a while now), but what's up with the A35K orders? I would assume the idea would be to use the 77W as the 747 replacement instead of the A35K. How would the A330NEO fit in to the UA fleet unless they're 777 replacements?

intotheair · Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:24 pm

atcsundevil wrote:
I feel like I'm missing a critical piece of information! Could somebody fill me in? I expected the cancelled 737 orders to be converted to more 77Ws (I think many of us anticipated them ordering more 77Ws for a while now), but what's up with the A35K orders? I would assume the idea would be to use the 77W as the 747 replacement instead of the A35K. How would the A330NEO fit in to the UA fleet unless they're 777 replacements?

My comment was in reference to this article about a month ago when the CFO said that they may convert some or all of the A35K orders into A359s or A330s. There was a big thread about it on here. Also, despite what many had speculated, the article makes no link between UA and an A321 order.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... eet-revamp

atcsundevil · Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:31 pm

intotheair wrote:
My comment was in reference to this article about a month ago when the CFO said that they may convert some or all of the A35K orders into A359s or A330s. There was a big thread about it on here. Also, despite what many had speculated, the article makes no link between UA and an A321 order.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... eet-revamp

That's right -- I did see that. I missed the connection between that and the upcoming press release, since I think I just dismissed this as just another one of the million rumors that circulate around. I think it would be a smart decision since the A35K has not exactly sold well thus far, so I think going with the more popular model would be smarter. I don't know what the purpose of an A330 order would be unless they got great pricing. I think ordering more 77Ws though would be a smart move, so I hope that's a follow-up to all of this.

UA444 · Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:47 pm

The A350 order may be modified but the Airbus haters need to realize they'll be coming in some form or another.

UA444 · Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:48 pm

I also expect a 777-300 top up of 4-10 frames.

iahcsr · Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:51 pm

atcsundevil wrote:
I feel like I'm missing a critical piece of information! Could somebody fill me in? I expected the cancelled 737 orders to be converted to more 77Ws (I think many of us anticipated them ordering more 77Ws for a while now), but what's up with the A35K orders? I would assume the idea would be to use the 77W as the 747 replacement instead of the A35K. How would the A330NEO fit in to the UA fleet unless they're 777 replacements?

The current speculation for the A35K is swap to a combo of 359s and 321s ( no interest in 330s at all). 73Gs are now four 738s this year and the rest MAXs. 77Ws are possibly up to 11 more (swap for the Gs ???) E190s/Cseries are still a possibility as well.

calpsafltskeds · Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:41 pm

319:
N815UA sked to enter LCQ 2154/2Jan, ISP?

320:
N405UA sked to exit LCQ 2120/3Jan, no ISP shown

739:
N38479 sked to exit SEA Induction, ferry to INT 2151/3Jan

764:
N78060 sked to enter HKG 2160/3Jan

772:
N212UA en route HKG for Domestic reconfiguration
N775UA sked to enter HKG for Domestic reconfiguration.

cosyr · Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:58 am

What do you think? ~60 A321LR to replace all TATL and PS 752's and allow for some South American expansion? Not much risk, because they can be easily subbed onto more domestic or Hawaiian routes as markets shift. Question is, how happy is UA with the 753's. I think they are fuel efficient compared with other jets in that Pax # range, but when the 752's go, they will be an odd niche in the fleet.

atcsundevil · Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:38 am

cosyr wrote:
What do you think? ~60 A321LR to replace all TATL and PS 752's and allow for some South American expansion? Not much risk, because they can be easily subbed onto more domestic or Hawaiian routes as markets shift. Question is, how happy is UA with the 753's. I think they are fuel efficient compared with other jets in that Pax # range, but when the 752's go, they will be an odd niche in the fleet.

I'm not sure they would need that many, if any, to be honest. First, hasn't a lot of 752 flying shifted to domestic? And second, a good portion of the int'l 752 routes could be upgauged to a 763 now that they've delayed those retirements. Routes which can't support a 763 probably are worthy of being cut anyway (and some already have). They could just as easily replace the p.s. fleet with the new domestic 772s now that they're going lie flat F, or potentially even 739s (although I wonder how profitably they could fly in a low density config).

IF the A321LR is even necessary, I don't know why they'd need a fleet much larger than 25. By holding onto the 763s and taking further deliveries of 787s, 77Ws, and whatever comes of the apparent A35K-->A359/A339, that's a lot of additional capacity to bring on even with a draw down of the 752 fleet. IIRC, the p.s. configured 752s are the oldest in the fleet, so I could see them going in the next couple of years. The rest of the fleet still has life left in them, even if they're overdue for a cabin refresh. Given that they're keeping the 763s and apparently trying to emulate DL to a degree, I would anticipate many of those 752s staying around for close to another decade.

calpsafltskeds · Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:15 am

The 321LR stats say it has about 200nm extra range vs. 752. Not sure that would make it fuel stop proof from Germany. But if UA were to extend ps service to BOS-LAX/SFO & IAD-LAS/SFO 321LR and some Hawaiian flying could require a fleet of 50 or more to keep the aircraft common with TATL units.
Without Door 2, a 321LR could be more flexible on BF lie flat seating. 24F might be a good compromise for TATL and ps services.
Looking at the stats the 321LR takes a whooping 31% less total fuel than the 752 and has slightly longer range, indicating its efficiency.
Note that 21 of the 35 763ERs are older than every sCO 752, meaning they should be retired first.
The 753s are newer than all 763ERs and are perfect for Hawaii and hub-to-hub operations.

intotheair · Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:33 am

atcsundevil wrote:
They could just as easily replace the p.s. fleet with the new domestic 772s now that they're going lie flat F, or potentially even 739s (although I wonder how profitably they could fly in a low density config).

I don't think the domestic 772s on p.s. routes is a very good idea. Sure, the seats are lie flat in front, but there are only 28 of them — the same number of J seats in the sUA 752 — with 200+ more Y seats. Proportionally, that would mean a lot more high value flyers stuck in Y/E+. There's nothing "premium" about that configuration at all. UA has been putting 772s on p.s. routes in the last few months, but they've all been the 3-cabin international ones — most of which were the 772A models that have now almost all been converted into the 364 seat domestic configuration.

I can see a place for the A321 in UA's fleet, and I could see them taking a page out of AA's book by injecting some energy into p.s. with a nice new product on some nice new A321s. Or, alternatively, UA could take a page out of DL's book and start running more international widebodies on p.s. rotations. But I also don't think UA can get rid of the entire A350 order.

A potential UA A321 order seems contingent on whatever 737MAXLR-stretch that Boeing may be able to come up with and whether or not that is attractive to UA. I think that's too much of a known unknown to read the tea leaves as to what UA will do. I still think what KarelXWB suggested is very likely — UA may split the order into 359s and 35Ks, nothing more, nothing less.

calpsafltskeds · Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:17 pm

752:
N41140 should be getting scimitars in MIA

772:
N772UA entered NRT 873/30Dec, must be broken

788:
N26909 entered PVG 2123/4Jan

E175:
All E175s now have Gogo WiFi and PDE installed

CR7:
N702SK has exited the fleet. Now flying for AA.

KVH68 · Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:14 pm

N772UA is in NRT because of odor in the cabin. It will take some time to isolate.

CALTECH · Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:20 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
752:
N41140 should be getting scimitars in MIA

772:
N772UA entered NRT 873/30Dec, must be broken

Add 757-200 # 139 to the Scimitar added list. It is about a week behind #140.

N772UA is getting a engine change....

calpsafltskeds · Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:04 pm

772:
N774UA sked to exit HKG 2125/7Jan in Domestic Config
7 of 3 class class 772As completed, 2 in mod, 1 still flying
1 of 9 Hawaiian 772As complete, 1 in mode, 7 still flying
N787UA sked to enter XMN 2152/6Jan

789:
N 29968 entered SEA new delivery Induction 2187/6Jan

calpsafltskeds · Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:24 pm

319:
N819UA sked to exit SFO 1856/9Jan, no sign of ISP

739:
N31412 exited INT 2191/8Jan with scimitars/slimines

763:
N675UA exited MIA 2122/8Jan

764:
N66057 entered MIA 2127/6Jan
N69063 exited MIA 2126/6Jan

772:
N772UA enroute to SFO UA2174 9-Jan after engine change in NRT
Reported that all 772A domestic flights showing new Domestic config as default after 4/4/17

CR7:
N707SK has left the fleet. Now flying AA.
N716SK has left the fleet. Now flying AA.
N718SK is in for fleet exit prep.

ER145X:
N33182 is now flying with CommutAir
N21154 has left ExpressJet in preparation for transfer.

calpsafltskeds · Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:49 pm

Just saw on Twitter that Airways Magazine has a story on the UA fleet. Probably took much of the data from the Fleet site, but that's fine.
https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/united- ... leet-plan/
This brings a question regarding the 772A conversions. I was assuming 772ER conversions would provide the lie flat BF seats to complete the converstion, but if the 763ER 3 class aircraft have the same BF seat, maybe the 763s will get converted first and allow needed seats.
Does anyone know if the 763 seats are the same and what the Polaris conversion plan is for the 763 and 772ERs?

iahcsr · Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:52 am

Given that three specific 789s (Ships 0956,0966,0967) are crewed by sUA FAs, is it known if any of the new deliveries will be likewise?

cosyr · Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:51 pm

Won't the FA's be able to cross fleets by the time those 789's enter service?

iahcsr · Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:53 pm

cosyr wrote:
Won't the FA's be able to cross fleets by the time those 789's enter service?

One is just delivered, second due next month. Third in 4th Q... crossover by then maybe, but not for 19th/20th aircraft.
Crewing depends on if specific aircraft is part of sCO or sUA premerger order.

cosyr · Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:48 pm

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/fl ... /96448866/
Not surprising, but sad. I doubt I'll get another chance to fly on the 747, as I don't have any plans to go to Asia this year.

fun2fly · Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:31 pm

cosyr wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2017/01/11/united-final-boeing-747-flight-come-end-2017/96448866/
Not surprising, but sad. I doubt I'll get another chance to fly on the 747, as I don't have any plans to go to Asia this year.

Almost guarantees some additional 77W frames, no? Find out shortly in the 10K.

shaq · Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:49 pm

Hi.
On Monday I saw a 737-800 in SJO, with opened engine cowlings and scratched United titles.
It was RONing, or it is a broken a/c?
Or COOPESA is doing routine maintenance in UA 738?

dennis2380 · Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:27 am

I heard at work that the a350-1000 would be canceled and they were going to order more 777-300 to replace them

flight152 · Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:31 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:

ER145X:
N33182 is now flying with CommutAir
N21154 has left ExpressJet in preparation for transfer.

I'm not so sure this is an upgrade per the thread title. Have you seen their operational performance?

DeSpringbokke · Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:53 am

dennis2380 wrote:
I heard at work that the a350-1000 would be canceled and they were going to order more 777-300 to replace them

If it happens, it'll be in the earnings report next Wednesday. I heard from another source a major fleet update is coming then as well.

iahcsr · Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:21 am

dennis2380 wrote:
I heard at work that the a350-1000 would be canceled and they were going to order more 777-300 to replace them

Last I heard was switch to combo of 359 and 321s... but this news of 737-10MAX likely changes that. Either way we will all know soon enough.

DeSpringbokke · Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:32 am

iahcsr wrote:
dennis2380 wrote:
I heard at work that the a350-1000 would be canceled and they were going to order more 777-300 to replace them

Last I heard was switch to combo of 359 and 321s... but this news of 737-10MAX likely changes that. Either way we will all know soon enough.

The 75K fleet has yet to have the fuel tank modification and none have been scheduled to be modified, thus all will be gone by the end of 2018. I'd figure the A321 will end up replacing the fleet as the 737-10 MAX won't be ready until 2020. If I'm not mistaken, an additional 11 77Ws will be ordered.

calpsafltskeds · Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:00 pm

789 N29968 exited SEA Induction, now en route IAH 2121/12Jan
773 N2333UA airborne on first flight from PAE, BOE753/12Jan.

319:
N817UA entered LCQ 2134/11Jan, ISP/new F??

738:
N14219 entered INT 2143/10Jan for slimlines/scmitars

739:
N37408 entred INT 2141/9Jan for slimlines/scimitars
N37247 sked to enter INT 2147/12Jan for slimlines/scimitars
N27477 sked to exit INT 2148/12Jan with slimlines/scimitars

744:
N105UA and N116UA in ORD since 1/4/7, probably spares?
N107UA enterd SFO 838/6Jan
N119UA sked to exit XMN 2145/14Jan
N121UA entered XMN 2144/11Jan

764:
N59053 exited HKG 2178/12Jan
N76054 entered HKG 2135/11Jan

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:26 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
764:
N59053 exited HKG 2178/12Jan
N76054 entered HKG 2135/11Jan

Are these polaris or just scheduled maintenance?

calpsafltskeds · Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:44 am

Probably maintenance.
738:
N77538, last 738 non-MAX for UA exited INT 2120/12Jan
1st revenue flight 1593/13Jan EWR-SAN

CONTACREW · Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:10 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Probably maintenance.
738:
N77538, last 738 non-MAX for UA exited INT 2120/12Jan
1st revenue flight 1593/13Jan EWR-SAN

4 more 738s are coming this year: 539, 540, 541 & 542.

CONTACREW · Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:11 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
764:
N59053 exited HKG 2178/12Jan
N76054 entered HKG 2135/11Jan

Are these polaris or just scheduled maintenance?

MX.

calpsafltskeds · Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:08 am

744:
N120UA entered HKG 2184/13Jan
N121UA entered SMN 2153/13Jan
N197UA sked to enter VCV 2146/13Jan, probable retirement

789:
N29968 sked first revenue flight 404/14Jan IAH-SFO

fun2fly · Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:25 pm

I see the new "domestic" 772's on the EWR>DUB route in October. That's one way to compete with the $499 RT's from Aer Lingus.

With the latest Boeing weekly update, there was only 1 777 ordered. Possibly UA? Wouldn't be much of a top up order that many suspect is 11.

United1 · Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:20 pm

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fun2fly wrote:
I see the new "domestic" 772's on the EWR>DUB route in October. That's one way to compete with the $499 RT's from Aer Lingus.

With the latest Boeing weekly update, there was only 1 777 ordered. Possibly UA? Wouldn't be much of a top up order that many suspect is 11.

That flight you found may be a one off or a missfile. I checked a few random October dates and just see the exCO 772 and a 752 on the route.

springtx · Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:22 pm

fun2fly wrote:
I see the new "domestic" 772's on the EWR>DUB route in October. That's one way to compete with the $499 RT's from Aer Lingus.

With the latest Boeing weekly update, there was only 1 777 ordered. Possibly UA? Wouldn't be much of a top up order that many suspect is 11.

What flt and date are you seeing this on?? Thanks

calpsafltskeds · Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:57 pm

CONTACREW wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
4 more 738s are coming this year: 539, 540, 541 & 542.

Understand it's part of the 73G cancellation/moified order - rest are MAXs

See folowing reserved byUA on FAA N number registration (for 738s).
N77539
N78540
N79541
N77542

320:
N488UA exited MCN 2124/13Jan, no ISP shown
N498UA entered MCN 2124/13Jan, potential ISP/new F

744:
N107UA sked to exit SFO 893/14Jan

intotheair · Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:23 pm

springtx wrote:
fun2fly wrote:
I see the new "domestic" 772's on the EWR>DUB route in October. That's one way to compete with the $499 RT's from Aer Lingus.

With the latest Boeing weekly update, there was only 1 777 ordered. Possibly UA? Wouldn't be much of a top up order that many suspect is 11.

What flt and date are you seeing this on?? Thanks

UAL.com often has a lot of weird quirks with fleet types on weekends during maintenance and schedule updates. Sometimes you can find them showing Dash 8s flying TATL and other nonsense.

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