Arabian aviation thread - 2017

SCQ83 · Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:30 am

ME720 wrote:
MEA commences Madrid S18

Source?

dubaiamman243 · Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:53 pm

Rumor: QR to start international flights from Suhar, Oman.

how accurate is this?

ME720 · Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:02 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
ME720 wrote:
MEA commences Madrid S18

Source?

MEA Facebook' page.

raffik · Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:32 pm

MEA launching non stop services to Madrid from next year as per their Facebook post dated 11/7/17

dubaiamman243 · Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:29 pm

QR is operating flights for Royal Air Maroc

dubaiamman243 · Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:13 am

EK to increase Khartoum to daily.

Eyad89 · Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:24 am

dubaiamman243 wrote:
EK to increase Khartoum to daily.

Since Doha-Khartoum is one of the routes that got most impacted by the GCC internal issues ( flight time increased from 2 hours to 5 hours), it makes sense that a lot of travelling are simply switching to EK now.

CanadaFair · Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:32 am

Qatar Cargo ordered two 747-8F.

SVJ77W · Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:41 am

Looks like the 787 vs A350 has been finalised. Awaiting official confirmation now. The 787-9 and 787-10 have been selected by EK order.

Analyst: Emirates' long-awaited Dreamliner order a 'done deal'

Emirates Airlines is getting closer to announcing a big order for Boeing Co.'s 787 Dreamliner as the carrier teams up with low-cost partner FlyDubai to expand regional service, according to an analyst's report Monday.

"Detailed intelligence states that the 787 will be Emirates' smaller wide-body airplane choice," Saj Ahmad said on his Strategic Aero Research website. "Snaring Emirates is a massive coup for Boeing — something we've predicted for over three years now."

A spokesman for Emirates, which is based in Dubai, could not be reached for comment.

http://www.postandcourier.com/business/analyst-emirates-long-awaited-dreamliner-order-a-done-deal/article_0edb0ae0-6b18-11e7-bcdd-434b007eda5e.html

VirginFlyer · Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:30 am

SVJ77W wrote:
Looks like the 787 vs A350 has been finalised. Awaiting official confirmation now. The 787-9 and 787-10 have been selected by EK order.

Analyst: Emirates' long-awaited Dreamliner order a 'done deal'

Emirates Airlines is getting closer to announcing a big order for Boeing Co.'s 787 Dreamliner as the carrier teams up with low-cost partner FlyDubai to expand regional service, according to an analyst's report Monday.

"Detailed intelligence states that the 787 will be Emirates' smaller wide-body airplane choice," Saj Ahmad said on his Strategic Aero Research website. "Snaring Emirates is a massive coup for Boeing — something we've predicted for over three years now."

A spokesman for Emirates, which is based in Dubai, could not be reached for comment.

http://www.postandcourier.com/business/analyst-emirates-long-awaited-dreamliner-order-a-done-deal/article_0edb0ae0-6b18-11e7-bcdd-434b007eda5e.html

Not so fast, the original source for that is pretty dubious. See: Rumor: Emirates to select the B787-9 and B787-10

V/F

Eyad89 · Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:18 am

SVJ77W wrote:

A spokesman for Emirates, which is based in Dubai, could not be reached for comment.[/i]

once he or she does that, then this will be news in my opinion. Until then, we shouldn't make much out of this source.

Even though 787 seems like the likely winner here, we still have to wait until Dubai show to get a final confirmation, if not later. I just wonder what happened to the issue addressed by Tim Clark that he had some doubts if 787-10 would be able to take off in the summer days. It's interesting IMO.

SVJ77W · Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:36 pm

Yeah, regarding my post above, I later realised this man usually has only speculative news and nothing more. Let us wait until it is official.

GlenP · Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:49 pm

It's being reported, on the Egyptian Al Ahram Online site, that Saudia are stating the US laptop / electronics ban has been lifted.

See: http://tinyurl.com/y6wjwgz4

dubaiamman243 · Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:57 pm

The US laptop ban has been lifted from all Middle East flights

Clipper101 · Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:41 pm

Ch-aviation states Bahrain is considering a new airline !?

qf789 · Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:46 pm

QR to add 3rd daily flight to Moscow from 2 August

https://www.qatarairways.com/en/press-r ... s-releases

Momo1435 · Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:02 pm

It's scary how this Emirates 787 order story is spreading through the press. The first time the original source for this "news" made the same claims Emirates reacted a couple of weeks later by saying that the 787-10 would have issues in the hot climate of Dubai. I wonder if they will now do something similar?

dubaiamman243 · Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:27 pm

if Etihad is doing fine with the B787 in the hot weather, then Emirates will do fine too.

dubaiamman243 · Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:27 pm

Emirates will restart A380 flights to Jeddah starting from tomorrow.

CanadaFair · Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:33 pm

Pakistan's airline PIA has dropped out of Bahrain.

dubaiamman243 · Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:35 pm

Flydubai to launch Makhachkala and Voronezh in Russia starting October 31 and October 29 respectively and will relaunch Ufa starting October 31.
This brings the total Russian destinations to 10.

dubaiamman243 · Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:10 am

Saudia to launch 3 weekly flights to MRU with the B789

dubaiamman243 · Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:31 pm

Flydubai first B737-8MAX handover will be on 28JUL17. It will be flown to Amman for the new cabin to be fitted.
First revenue flight will be in September.

qf789 · Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:43 am

QR to add 4th daily flight to CMB from 1 August operated by A320, 2 existing flights to be upgraded to 77W

https://www.qatarairways.com/en/press-r ... s-releases

CanadaFair · Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:27 am

One of the ME3 planned to operate an A380 flight to Karachi to celebrate Pakistan 70th founding day on 23rfd March, but it didn't operate despite gaining all permits from relevant authorities, a Pakistani aviation forum has revealed.

CanadaFair · Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:23 am

Iran Air flying to Saudi after almost three years hiatus, only for hajj A330 also being used as well as flights to Medina, is Saudia reciprocating?

Breathe · Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:52 pm

dubaiamman243 wrote:
Saudia to launch 3 weekly flights to MRU with the B789

I'd be surprised if EK would let them into MRU. Rumour has it (and of course we have no idea if this is true) that QR where knocked back by the authorities at MRU under pressure from EK, when they tried to get some slots there.

dubaiamman243 · Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:58 pm

Breathe wrote:
dubaiamman243 wrote:
Saudia to launch 3 weekly flights to MRU with the B789

I'd be surprised if EK would let them into MRU. Rumour has it (and of course we have no idea if this is true) that QR where knocked back by the authorities at MRU under pressure from EK, when they tried to get some slots there.

EK is doing pretty well in MRU. 3 daily flights on Sundays

Breathe · Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:03 pm

dubaiamman243 wrote:
Breathe wrote:
dubaiamman243 wrote:
Saudia to launch 3 weekly flights to MRU with the B789

I'd be surprised if EK would let them into MRU. Rumour has it (and of course we have no idea if this is true) that QR where knocked back by the authorities at MRU under pressure from EK, when they tried to get some slots there.

EK is doing pretty well in MRU. 3 daily flights on Sundays

3 x on Sun? I thought they only did 2 x daily throughout the week on A380s

dubaiamman243 · Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:22 pm

Breathe wrote:
dubaiamman243 wrote:
Breathe wrote:
I'd be surprised if EK would let them into MRU. Rumour has it (and of course we have no idea if this is true) that QR where knocked back by the authorities at MRU under pressure from EK, when they tried to get some slots there.

EK is doing pretty well in MRU. 3 daily flights on Sundays

3 x on Sun? I thought they only did 2 x daily throughout the week on A380s

Yes. 3 daily on the Sundays of every week

Breathe · Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:29 pm

dubaiamman243 wrote:
Breathe wrote:
dubaiamman243 wrote:

EK is doing pretty well in MRU. 3 daily flights on Sundays

3 x on Sun? I thought they only did 2 x daily throughout the week on A380s

Yes. 3 daily on the Sundays of every week

Really? I thought EK were only cleared for 14 flights a week. Having a quick look on the EK website it only shows up with 2 flights on Sunday.

Maybe the JED route is for the Hajj? I know MK do a run of charter flights to JED during the event.

dubaiamman243 · Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:58 am

QR downgrades Krabi from A330/B787 to A319

AirbusA343 · Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:25 pm

dubaiamman243 wrote:
QR downgrades Krabi from A330/B787 to A319

That is a huge downgrade! If it were to be downgraded then I would've guessed to an A321, maybe an A320.

dubaiamman243 · Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:04 pm

AirbusA343 wrote:
dubaiamman243 wrote:
QR downgrades Krabi from A330/B787 to A319

That is a huge downgrade! If it were to be downgraded then I would've guessed to an A321, maybe an A320.

and from 4 weekly to 3 weekly flights

AirbusA343 · Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:19 pm

Wow! To put it in perspective, they are reducing capacity from around 1035 seats per week to 330 seats per week! That's a capacity reduction of 705 seats per week! :shock:

Breathe · Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:34 pm

Looks like EK only send 2 flights on Sunday to MRU. Curious to know where you got the information that EK sends 3 flights on Sunday.

dubaiamman243 · Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:37 pm

Breathe wrote:
Looks like EK only send 2 flights on Sunday to MRU. Curious to know where you got the information that EK sends 3 flights on Sunday.

http://theeksource.com/

Breathe · Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:45 pm

dubaiamman243 wrote:
Breathe wrote:
Looks like EK only send 2 flights on Sunday to MRU. Curious to know where you got the information that EK sends 3 flights on Sunday.

http://theeksource.com/

Thanks for the link. It looks like EK703 is being recorded twice on Sunday for some reason. So it is only 2 flights on Sundays.

dubaiamman243 · Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:48 pm

Breathe wrote:
dubaiamman243 wrote:
Breathe wrote:
Looks like EK only send 2 flights on Sunday to MRU. Curious to know where you got the information that EK sends 3 flights on Sunday.

http://theeksource.com/

Thanks for the link. It looks like EK703 is being recorded twice on Sunday for some reason. So it is only 2 flights on Sundays.

Oh .. thank you for pointing it out. I didn't pay attention to it.

sand26391 · Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:04 pm

Etihad Airways confirms it is ending service to San Francisco; route averaged 79% load factor in 2016; Qatar Airways’ entry the final straw?

For more: http://www.anna.aero/2017/08/02/etihad- ... 7-87013009

Seems like theres is definitely some impact of AI's DEL-SFO flight into EY stopping SFO(?)

dubaiamman243 · Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:15 pm

sand26391 wrote:
Etihad Airways confirms it is ending service to San Francisco; route averaged 79% load factor in 2016; Qatar Airways’ entry the final straw?

For more: http://www.anna.aero/2017/08/02/etihad- ... 7-87013009

Seems like theres is definitely some impact of AI's DEL-SFO flight into EY stopping SFO(?)

So Emirates will have a bigger slice of the cake.

sadiqutp · Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:40 pm

dubaiamman243 wrote:
AirbusA343 wrote:
dubaiamman243 wrote:
QR downgrades Krabi from A330/B787 to A319

That is a huge downgrade! If it were to be downgraded then I would've guessed to an A321, maybe an A320.

and from 4 weekly to 3 weekly flights

according to the link, it going daily from 1 dec ?!
https://www.qatarairways.com/en/press-r ... 0000001105

AirbusA343 · Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:44 pm

If it's daily then the capacity has been reduced to 770 seats per week and the overall reduction would be 265 seats which I suppose isn't that much.
To clear it up then, QR will operate a daily A319 to Krabi from the 1st of December this year.
EDIT: Found out the source of this mixup... Routesonline has said the following

Qatar Airways during the month of September 2017 is adjusting operational aircraft for Doha – Krabi route, as the airline schedules 110-seater Airbus A319 aircraft, instead of A330-200/Boeing 787. This route is served 3 times a week, instead of 4 (since June 2017)

So starting from 1 Dec this will be served with a daily flight.

sadiqutp · Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:53 pm

AirbusA343 wrote:
If it's daily then the capacity has been reduced to 770 seats per week and the overall reduction would be 265 seats which I suppose isn't that much.
To clear it up then, QR will operate a daily A319 to Krabi from the 1st of December this year.
EDIT: Found out the source of this mixup... Routesonline has said the following

Qatar Airways during the month of September 2017 is adjusting operational aircraft for Doha – Krabi route, as the airline schedules 110-seater Airbus A319 aircraft, instead of A330-200/Boeing 787. This route is served 3 times a week, instead of 4 (since June 2017)

So starting from 1 Dec this will be served with a daily flight.

I guess that makes sense .. The distance between Phuket and krabi is so tiny, I still think that Krabi is only cannibalizing their loads on Phuket route

dubaiamman243 · Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:52 pm

Royal Jordanian is considering to operate 2 aircraft types only. I guess only the B787 and A321

dubaiamman243 · Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:02 pm

Oman Air to launch flights to Beirut via Amman.

dubaiamman243 · Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:20 am

Qatar Airways to fly the A359 to Miami during September.

qf789 · Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:03 am

Emirates to add an additional 4 weekly services to CAI from 29 October 17

https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/t ... -to-cairo#

AirbusA343 · Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:51 am

Some changes from QR per Routesonline...
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/274163/qatar-airways-sepoct-2017-service-changes-as-of-06aug17/
3 flights are getting A350s stripped off during September. I wonder if they will be cascaded to routes other than Miami?

dubaiamman243 · Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:05 am

QR to take delivery of its first A350-1000 by year-end

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