Airbus A330neo production and delivery thread - 2016-2017

keesje · Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:14 am

Seems #1 is firmly in final assembly now.

“We have started with a very tight development schedule and are today right on time,” says Odile Jubécourt, Airbus head of the A330neo program. “I am happy to say we are in good shape to meet the high standards of maturity and reliability our customers expect from us and I want to thank the teams for this outstanding achievement.”

Eyad89 · Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:23 am

It's exciting to have another new type production thread, and looking forward for the first 777X Production thread as well. However, I don't see a need for calling Part 1 when the new update for the site.

hilram · Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:28 am

Looking forward to more of this!

keesje · Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:56 am

I gues both wings attached by now and front section soon. Has tail section arrived?

poolkeeper · Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:19 am

Copied this link from KarelXWB's post in the 330 thread:
http://videos.airbus.com/video/c8b302f74aas.html
The video is from 10th of Oct

In the end of the video they show the installation of the tail fin

keesje · Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:04 am

poolkeeper wrote:
Copied this link from KarelXWB's post in the 330 thread:
http://videos.airbus.com/video/c8b302f74aas.html
The video is from 10th of Oct

In the end of the video they show the installation of the tail fin

Thnx. It seems the tail is complete. Which wouldn't be a challenge. I haven't seen the Trent 7000 Wing pylon's though.

keesje · Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:43 pm

The T7000 should be pretty far down the line now, benefitting from T1000 Ten lessons learned.

Will it be flight tested on N787RR?

lowbank · Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:25 pm

The first T7000 comprising the full bill of materials has been conducting ground tests in the last week or two. What those tests were and any results I have no information on , sorry

keesje · Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:10 pm

First engine cowling were handed over for the A330 New Environmental Option (NEO).

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/airbuss-new-neo-slant-puts-emphasis-on-environme-431063/

N14AZ · Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:21 pm

I am confused, what is that circular light blue thing in the background? It looks too huge to be the cowling for a 330NEO...

Newbiepilot · Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:32 pm

Keesje, cool photos of A330 production. Where did you get them from? Do you work for Airbus?

Tedd · Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:09 pm

N14AZ wrote:
I am confused, what is that circular light blue thing in the background? It looks too huge to be the cowling for a 330NEO...

The T7000 has a 112" dia fan, the same size as the T1000 on the B787, so it will look
a lot bigger than the T700 it replaces.

N14AZ · Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:06 am

Tedd wrote:
N14AZ wrote:
I am confused, what is that circular light blue thing in the background? It looks too huge to be the cowling for a 330NEO...

The T7000 has a 112" dia fan, the same size as the T1000 on the B787, so it will look
a lot bigger than the T700 it replaces.

Thanks for the explanation. Maybe it's an optical illusion, they look huge.... rather like sections for a swimming pool....

Balerit · Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:41 am

Any news on the progress?

downdata · Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:29 pm

Balerit wrote:
Any news on the progress?

Barely making more progress than the C919

zkojq · Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:52 pm

keesje wrote:
Will it be flight tested on N787RR?

Hopefully they'll re-register it N330RR for T7000 testing purposes. More realistically, I'd expect the A380 testbed (F-WWOW) to be used.

Geoff1947 · Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:07 pm

downdata wrote:
Balerit wrote:
Any news on the progress?

Barely making more progress than the C919

But quicker than the 787-10.

Stitch · Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:05 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
downdata wrote:
Balerit wrote:
Any news on the progress?

Barely making more progress than the C919

But quicker than the 787-10.

Not sure why the 787-10's production is relevant to a thread about the production of the A330neo, but for the record the first 787-10 began fuselage assembly back in March and should be entering the FAL in CHS any day now.

StTim · Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:29 pm

I think it was just a reflection on the lack of news from both programs. Often lack of news is good.

Stitch · Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:14 pm

StTim wrote:
I think it was just a reflection on the lack of news from both programs. Often lack of news is good.

Thanks. Both programs do look like they're proceeding smoothly into production.

flee · Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:58 am

There isn't much to report on the A330neo at the moment because it is undergoing final assembly - there are hardly any changes to the frame. Apart from the redesigned wingtips and interior, the only other major part is the RR Trent 7000 engine. I guess the next major announcement will be when the first test airframe completes final assembly and goes into the paint shop.

KarelXWB · Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:05 pm

Stitch wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:
downdata wrote:

Barely making more progress than the C919

But quicker than the 787-10.

Not sure why the 787-10's production is relevant to a thread about the production of the A330neo, but for the record the first 787-10 began fuselage assembly back in March and should be entering the FAL in CHS any day now.

I believe pre-assembly of the first A330neo started in September last year.

keesje · Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:23 pm

Out of the FAL

Prost · Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:40 pm

Who receives the first A330 NEO?

StTim · Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:48 pm

Thankfully not QATAR

Polot · Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:49 pm

TAP will be the first operator.

Devilfish · Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:56 pm

I'm still holding out for the A330-800... :cheerful:

...

http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/_proces ... 9a8647.jpg

Balerit · Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:54 pm

Yay, we have movement at last. Is there an up to date list of the differences between ceo and neo?

keesje · Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:34 am

Apart for the wing pylon, that appears to have more resemblance to the A350, aerodynamic improvement seems to be incorporated in the wingbody fairing.

mjoelnir · Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:23 pm

Balerit wrote:
Yay, we have movement at last. Is there an up to date list of the differences between ceo and neo?

Wing tips that significantly extend the wing span, engines, electronic/electrical bleed control instead of pneumatic. We see on the first pictures that there are some aerodynamic refinements regarding the wing body fairings. The new cabin should be similar to the A350.
There was talk about weight reduction, compensating partly for the increased weight of the engines. There was talk about a soon to come raise of the MTOW to 245 t.

Aviaponcho · Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:26 pm

keesje wrote:
Apart for the wing pylon, that appears to have more resemblance to the A350, aerodynamic improvement seems to be incorporated in the wingbody fairing.

Are you sure that this package wasn't part of the 242 t version (with flaps fairing) ?

Aviaponcho · Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:29 pm

Self ansewering

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/press ... 0-version/

Not part of the 242 t package

sf260 · Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:36 pm

Much better looking than the A330ceo (those fancy wingtips make a big difference in the looks-department). When is first flight scheduled?

keesje · Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:55 pm

sf260 wrote:
Much better looking than the A330ceo (those fancy wingtips make a big difference in the looks-department). When is first flight scheduled?

Q1 2017 seems a safe bet :snaggletooth:

N837MH · Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:43 am

Do you know A338 Neo Assembly schedule?

piedmontf284000 · Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:40 pm

First delivery has been pushed into 20018 due to delays with RR engines

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbu ... SKBN1451VZ

StTim · Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:46 pm

20018 - some delay

piedmontf284000 · Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:57 pm

StTim wrote:
20018 - some delay

Ha Ha. Indeed.

Maybe by then, LGA redevelopment will be nearing completion.

kmz · Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:48 pm

Are the new engines in flight test already? If yes, on which a/c?
thanks

kmz

keesje · Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:57 pm

piedmontf284000 wrote:
First delivery has been pushed into 20018 due to delays with RR engines

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbu ... SKBN1451VZ

Airbus A330neo six weeks behind schedule: source

the sky is falling..

Aircellist · Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:12 pm

Isn't that reworked wing-to-body fairing somewhat like the one that is meant to shorten take-off/landing rolls on the A32x?

Newbiepilot · Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:54 pm

keesje wrote:
piedmontf284000 wrote:
First delivery has been pushed into 20018 due to delays with RR engines

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbu ... SKBN1451VZ

Airbus A330neo six weeks behind schedule: source

the sky is falling..

I disagree with the sky is falling statement. 6 weeks or 3 months is not too bad. The A330neo was already on an aggressive schedule. The airlines probably are not surprised. Fortunately the customer base Is relatively small and more manageable than other programs. When was the last time Airbus delivered a new derivative according to the original schedule? It just doesn't happen in this industry. The fear is that engine delays at this point could be a precursor to another PW1100G debacle. Let's hope that is not true.

KarelXWB · Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:45 pm

kmz wrote:
Are the new engines in flight test already? If yes, on which a/c?
thanks

kmz

The new engine is not yet in flight testing.

kmz · Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:30 am

KarelXWB wrote:
kmz wrote:
Are the new engines in flight test already? If yes, on which a/c?
thanks

kmz

The new engine is not yet in flight testing.

Thanks

Are new engines normally not tested on some testairframe?

Newbiepilot · Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:40 am

kmz wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
kmz wrote:
Are the new engines in flight test already? If yes, on which a/c?
thanks

kmz

The new engine is not yet in flight testing.

Thanks

Are new engines normally not tested on some testairframe?

Engines are usually tested on a 747 or other four engine plane. The the Trent XWB was test flown on an A380 in February 2012 more than two years before the first A350 delivery. Obviously the A330neo is on a tighter development schedule.

flee · Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:45 am

The RR Trent 1000 TEN was certified this year but only had its first flight on the B787 test bed, ZA004, earlier this month. See:
http://www.rolls-royce.com/products-and ... pdate.aspx

I would imagine the Trent 7000 schedule to closely track that of the Trent 1000 TEN.

A330freak · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:36 pm

First A330neo out of paint

1st Airbus A330 neo emerge from paint shop F-WTTN by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr

keesje · Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:53 pm

Good catch. It has the black cockpit window frames..

journeyperson · Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:04 pm

keesje wrote:
Good catch. It has the black cockpit window frames..

It looks a bit bad tempered from that angle. Maybe not happy about having to wait for its engines.

Bricktop · Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:11 pm

Very nice looking plane.

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