UPS Pilot wrote:GVIIO wrote:Wow no kidding, the user named UPS pilot really hates Tampa, funny thing is everything about that post was totally incorrect, and what does how good the sports teams have to do with possible growth of the airport?
So were you at the airport in Tampa last Super Bowl? Ever see Greenbay, Pittsburgh, New England teams travel? New York Yankees? You never see a stadium filled with Buccaneers, Rays or Bolts fans do you? You go to those airports on a weekend, they are loaded with fans either flying in to support their team or flying out of an away game to support their teams. Go to Pittsburgh when the Steelers are home. You see Steeler fans flying in from everywhere.
Miami is 4 hours away. How many Latin American carriers serve Miami? How many serve Tampa? I guess you never seen buses running up the turnpike and 75 from Miami to Orlando and Tampa.
If Tampa is so much better than Miami and Orlando then why is Tampa much smaller?
If You feel Tampa is going to out grow Miami and Orlando, then why are they building high speed rail (All aboard Florida) between Miami and Orlando. Not Tampa.
Why does UPS run Multiple flights to MCO, RSW, JAX, PIE and have a hub in MIA. Nothing to Tampa...
Why does Orlando and Miami draw much more international carriers and more flights if Tampa has so much more?
I don't hate Tampa. Just pointing out what I've seen. Just pointing out what other airlines have seen. You have Orlando an hour and 15 minute drive with more directs and more options. Much more room for growth in Orlando.
No one said every Latin American carrier is going to move into Tampa to supplant MCO/MIA. This is all about what Tampa could support, no one is forcing you to participate.
The City of Tampa is smaller, but in metro area size Tampa Bay is larger than Orlando.
All Aboard Florida/Brightline ("AAF") is largely using existing Florida East Coast Railway right of way. Much cheaper and easier to upgrade existing infrastructure especially when you have close ties to the company that owns it. If it is successful, I think you will see Tampa added to the route like the original FL HSR plan in the early 2000s.
UPS has a good deal to operate in PIE and that covers the Tampa Bay area for them. I don't know why they would operate out of both airports although with Amazon building more warehouses in central/south Hillsborough County it may make sense to rethink that as UPS tries to vie for Amazon's business.
No one here counters that MCO has more room to physically grow and the Mouse to inflate tourist numbers, but it isn't like TPA lost a huge chunk of existing international or even domestic service (like PIT, STL, CVG, or even PIE when ATA went belly up).
Does TPA follow the national trends more than MCO/MIA? Sure. For instance it lost point-to-point flying much faster than MCO when the industry shifted back to a hub-centric model. That said, MCO also lost the mini-hubs it used to have. On the international side, Tampa has been able to lure international carriers over the past few years and so far has been successful - more successful than I think most airlines would have ever thought. Will TPA ever be a MCO/MIA? Not likely and I don't think that is the goal of this thread.
Also, I've never met anyone who really enjoys flying through MCO even locals. TSA is a nightmare with the plethora of families and crying children. So Tampa will always have them beat on that.