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Southern Baptists, "Catholic Church, hold my beer"

Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:17 pm

Investigation reveals 700 victims of Southern Baptist sexual abuse over 20 years

"Victims of sexual abuse had pleaded for the SBC to act, saying it was allowing predators to move from church to church. But the SBC in 2008 rejected all proposals to produce such a registry, saying the organization could not tell its 47,000 member churches whom to hire or ordain."

"One victim of sexual abuse said he can't forgive leaders who offered prayers but took no action"

https://www.chron.com/news/investigatio ... 591612.php
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Re: Southern Baptists, "Catholic Church, hold my beer"

Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:27 pm

I grew up in the Southern Baptist Church. I remember a "youth director" hitting on me. Fortunately I wasn't intimidated and told my dad.

I'm not surprised. It seems that all organized religions have this issue and in very big ways.
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Re: Southern Baptists, "Catholic Church, hold my beer"

Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:41 pm

Nothing good ever came out of organized religion and nothing ever will. At best they're all Ponzi schemes and at worst they're all fear-mongering terrorist organizations. Even when they're not slaughtering millions of "non believers" throughout history they're telling people they're going to hell if they don't jump on board. How anyone succumbs to this bullshit is remarkable. And now it turns out all these assholes like to bugger young boys and girls to boot. It's the trifecta of horror..gimme me your money, you're going to hell, I'm blowing your shit up and I'll be impregnating your 12 year old right after Sunday school. I guess that makes it a quadfecta.

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Re: Southern Baptists, "Catholic Church, hold my beer"

Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:10 pm

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The crime is one thing, preaching the opposite is something else... but the cover-up from higher up the prayer chain is equally as heinous.
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Re: Southern Baptists, "Catholic Church, hold my beer"

Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:22 pm

Disgusting!! How anyone still supports or believes in religions is beyond me. It was understandable when we had no way to prove how natural events occurred, but now humans have access to science, knowledge and education. Religion today is nothing more than a method of control over people by powerful leaders. The human race needs to move byond religion. Not surprised to read of more abuse in religious institutions.
 
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:25 am

Pi, it is comforting to me to think there is something more after this body has stopped working. I know that, with the infinite space out there beyond the Milky Way that there is life and Big Bang and all that. But, believing in paradise after this life is over is a comfort to many of us.

People taking advantage of that on this plane of existence is disgusting. I listened to a podcast a few weeks ago that explained how Jehovah's Witness leadership protects pedophiles. It sickens me to take something innocent like children and faith and corrupt it so horribly.
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Re: Southern Baptists, "Catholic Church, hold my beer"

Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:10 am

Who didn’t see this one coming a mile away? A bunch of blowhards ranting about the evils of gays, abortion, single mothers, Muslims, socialists are just a bunch of hypocrites willing to cover up heinous crimes against parishioners? Shocked I tell you.
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:11 am

Its a shame that the victims had to suffer as were threatened to not tell a parent or other adult. Sadly too even if the child victim did tell their parents they were unlikely to do anything out of fear of lawsuits, shunned by their communities or their faith to speak out, ignored by local prosecutors who were reluctant to go after the perverts, or if turned to violence they would get arrested instead of the pervert. Maybe if some of these perverts with a clerical collar got a beat down for harming their child a few of them wouldn't have committed their heinous acts.
 
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Re: Southern Baptists, "Catholic Church, hold my beer"

Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:27 am

I wonder where the Catholic Church and Southern Baptists force their victims to get abortions?
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:38 am

I am so sick of this BS, may they all pay for their hypocrisy somewhere, somehow.
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:28 am

Sounds like they learned from the masters, the holy see. Hopefully, the whole house of cards will collapse in on itself.
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:42 am

Give select people uncontrolled power over others.
or
Give select people the go ahead to do depraved things to others:
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Re: Southern Baptists, "Catholic Church, hold my beer"

Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:38 am

WarRI1 wrote:
I am so sick of this BS, may they all pay for their hypocrisy somewhere, somehow.


How about right here, right now?

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Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:55 pm

seb146 wrote:
Pi, it is comforting to me to think there is something more after this body has stopped working. I know that, with the infinite space out there beyond the Milky Way that there is life and Big Bang and all that. But, believing in paradise after this life is over is a comfort to many of us.

That's fine. Live a good life and you'll get there. The problem is that religions say that if you're not a member of them and that if you don't follow their rituals and get their blessings and rites when you die, you won't get there. None of that is in the Bible. You can live a righteous life without belonging to organized religions.
 
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:17 pm

johns624 wrote:
You can live a righteous life without belonging to organized religions.


You can live a righteous life without belonging to or believing in any religion, just by adhering to simple humane standards.
 
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:30 pm

mbmbos wrote:
I grew up in the Southern Baptist Church. I remember a "youth director" hitting on me. Fortunately I wasn't intimidated and told my dad.

I'm not surprised. It seems that all organized religions have this issue and in very big ways.



I have a very similar story from my time in the Southern Baptist Church. I am not a fan of any organized religion, and this is but one reason why. Boy, the stories I could tell.

When it comes to organized religion, there is one thing that I am a big fan of . . . Ending their Tax Exempt status. Didn't Jesus mention something about rendering to Caesar what is Caeser's?
 
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:01 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
WarRI1 wrote:
I am so sick of this BS, may they all pay for their hypocrisy somewhere, somehow.


How about right here, right now?

Best regards
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I think that words cannot do them justice for their crimes, maybe eternity might.
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Re: Southern Baptists, "Catholic Church, hold my beer"

Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:19 am

tommy1808 wrote:
WarRI1 wrote:
I am so sick of this BS, may they all pay for their hypocrisy somewhere, somehow.


How about right here, right now?

Best regards
Thomas

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Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:02 am

johns624 wrote:
seb146 wrote:
Pi, it is comforting to me to think there is something more after this body has stopped working. I know that, with the infinite space out there beyond the Milky Way that there is life and Big Bang and all that. But, believing in paradise after this life is over is a comfort to many of us.

That's fine. Live a good life and you'll get there. The problem is that religions say that if you're not a member of them and that if you don't follow their rituals and get their blessings and rites when you die, you won't get there. None of that is in the Bible. You can live a righteous life without belonging to organized religions.


I agree 100%. Many years ago, comedian Emo Phillips did a bit about a man who was about to jump from a bridge. TL:DR but it reminds me of how these right wingers keep demanding we adhere to Biblical law knowing full well that one sect will try to over rule other sects.

People can live a good and righteous life and never be a part of a religious service and still be happy in their faith. I have not been to a church service in years and still consider myself Christian. Jesus and the Apostles did so I don't see a problem.
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Re: Southern Baptists, "Catholic Church, hold my beer"

Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:37 am

WarRI1 wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
WarRI1 wrote:
I am so sick of this BS, may they all pay for their hypocrisy somewhere, somehow.


How about right here, right now?

Best regards
Thomas


I think that words cannot do them justice for their crimes, maybe eternity might.


We got prisons, and those are real enough. Since they are Baptists, they don't really believe they can be doomed forever, do they?

Plus of course any God that creates a hell is so evil that we should dedicated US to targeting and destroying him. But I guess that would be a different discussion.

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