NIKV69 wrote:I am so glad I only have 10-15 years left in NY.
Ken777 wrote:There are plenty of states that would come up with some decent offers if Amazon decides to look around again. I can't get excited about battles in NY over Amazon getting. good deal to bring in 25,000 jobs.
MaverickM11 wrote:"I hate this place so much I'm going to stay 15 years"![]()
Ken777 wrote:There are plenty of states that would come up with some decent offers if Amazon decides to look around again. I can't get excited about battles in NY over Amazon getting. good deal to bring in 25,000 jobs.
NIKV69 wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:"I hate this place so much I'm going to stay 15 years"![]()
More like I got 10-15 years till retirement so I am not going to leave a good job.
Ken777 wrote:There are plenty of states that would come up with some decent offers if Amazon decides to look around again. I can't get excited about battles in NY over Amazon getting. good deal to bring in 25,000 jobs.
I can it will be entertaining to watch Cuomo school AOC.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/05/cuomo-may ... c8oA32Xbmw
NIKV69 wrote:I am so glad I only have 10-15 years left in NY. It's really going down the crapper.
NIKV69 wrote:Wow the new Socialist darling has locked horns with Andrew Cuomo and it's getting interesting. I would love if they pull out and go to VA or TN. I am so glad I only have 10-15 years left in NY. It's really going down the crapper. Cuomo plays hardball though I hope she is prepared.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/08/amazon-of ... LoRp9eMK2Y
jetero wrote:NIKV69 wrote:I am so glad I only have 10-15 years left in NY. It's really going down the crapper.
Yes, as I've often heard on here, if people don't like it, they should just leave.
910A wrote:What is this obsession of yours with AOC? I seriously doubt that you live in her district. (Don't you spend most of your winters in Las Vegas?) Is it just your anti-Democrat stance?
jetero wrote:
Yes, as I've often heard on here, if people don't like it, they should just leave.
910A wrote:What is this obsession of yours with AOC? I seriously doubt that you live in her district. (Don't you spend most of your winters in Las Vegas?) Is it just your anti-Democrat stance?
NIKV69 wrote:jetero wrote:
Yes, as I've often heard on here, if people don't like it, they should just leave.
They are. That is why there is a 2 Billion shortfall.910A wrote:What is this obsession of yours with AOC? I seriously doubt that you live in her district. (Don't you spend most of your winters in Las Vegas?) Is it just your anti-Democrat stance?
Why is not liking someone's view on the economy and ability to govern an "obsession"? You all do the same thing and chirp ad nausea that Trump is not fit to govern and should be removed but that is deemed patriotic yet when done to one of your darlings it's considered an obsession. This is why nobody takes you seriously. Your unadulterated bias and compete lack of objectivity..
NIKV69 wrote:jetero wrote:
Yes, as I've often heard on here, if people don't like it, they should just leave.
They are. That is why there is a 2 Billion shortfall.
NIKV69 wrote:910A wrote:What is this obsession of yours with AOC? I seriously doubt that you live in her district. (Don't you spend most of your winters in Las Vegas?) Is it just your anti-Democrat stance?
Why is not liking someone's view on the economy and ability to govern an "obsession"? You all do the same thing and chirp ad nausea that Trump is not fit to govern and should be removed but that is deemed patriotic yet when done to one of your darlings it's considered an obsession. This is why nobody takes you seriously. Your unadulterated bias and compete lack of objectivity..
bgm wrote:NIKV69 wrote:jetero wrote:
Yes, as I've often heard on here, if people don't like it, they should just leave.
They are. That is why there is a 2 Billion shortfall.910A wrote:What is this obsession of yours with AOC? I seriously doubt that you live in her district. (Don't you spend most of your winters in Las Vegas?) Is it just your anti-Democrat stance?
Why is not liking someone's view on the economy and ability to govern an "obsession"? You all do the same thing and chirp ad nausea that Trump is not fit to govern and should be removed but that is deemed patriotic yet when done to one of your darlings it's considered an obsession. This is why nobody takes you seriously. Your unadulterated bias and compete lack of objectivity..
Every time I read your posts, it just reaffirms my signature. Good job
bgm wrote:NIKV69 wrote:jetero wrote:
Yes, as I've often heard on here, if people don't like it, they should just leave.
They are. That is why there is a 2 Billion shortfall.910A wrote:What is this obsession of yours with AOC? I seriously doubt that you live in her district. (Don't you spend most of your winters in Las Vegas?) Is it just your anti-Democrat stance?
Why is not liking someone's view on the economy and ability to govern an "obsession"? You all do the same thing and chirp ad nausea that Trump is not fit to govern and should be removed but that is deemed patriotic yet when done to one of your darlings it's considered an obsession. This is why nobody takes you seriously. Your unadulterated bias and compete lack of objectivity..
Every time I read your posts, it just reaffirms my signature. Good job
LittleSprocket wrote:bgm wrote:NIKV69 wrote:
They are. That is why there is a 2 Billion shortfall.
Why is not liking someone's view on the economy and ability to govern an "obsession"? You all do the same thing and chirp ad nausea that Trump is not fit to govern and should be removed but that is deemed patriotic yet when done to one of your darlings it's considered an obsession. This is why nobody takes you seriously. Your unadulterated bias and compete lack of objectivity..
Every time I read your posts, it just reaffirms my signature. Good job
Funny signature. I should change mine to read "I haven't seen Democrats this upset since Republicans freed the slaves".
Magog wrote:It’s actually very cute that Jeff Bezos is worth $160,000,000,000 and thought that he needed to send her a naked picture to get her excited.
NIKV69 wrote:
Why is not liking someone's view on the economy and ability to govern an "obsession"? You all do the same thing and chirp ad nausea that Trump is not fit to govern and should be removed but that is deemed patriotic yet when done to one of your darlings it's considered an obsession. This is why nobody takes you seriously. Your unadulterated bias and compete lack of objectivity..
LittleSprocket wrote:bgm wrote:NIKV69 wrote:
They are. That is why there is a 2 Billion shortfall.
Why is not liking someone's view on the economy and ability to govern an "obsession"? You all do the same thing and chirp ad nausea that Trump is not fit to govern and should be removed but that is deemed patriotic yet when done to one of your darlings it's considered an obsession. This is why nobody takes you seriously. Your unadulterated bias and compete lack of objectivity..
Every time I read your posts, it just reaffirms my signature. Good job
Funny signature. I should change mine to read "I haven't seen Democrats this upset since Republicans freed the slaves".
ltbewr wrote:Getting back to the subject of this thread - It appears that a small but powerful number of local citizens in Queens have got the attention of local politicians and community boards to chase out Amazon's HQ2 in NYC - Long Island City. The concerned citizens fear losing what little affordable housing exists with the many 1000's of Amazon workers coming in, the Billions in tax breaks, not enough good paying jobs for locals not web geeks.
I would also suspect that Amazon wanted to extort more tax breaks and won't get them (oh the irony with the Bezos-National Inquirer scandal), the costs of fighting the notorious bureaucracy of NY City, the high costs of construction and living also has made them give up on LIC for HQ2 and go extort some other city.
Moose135 wrote:910A wrote:What is this obsession of yours with AOC? I seriously doubt that you live in her district. (Don't you spend most of your winters in Las Vegas?) Is it just your anti-Democrat stance?
Fear of a stong woman who won't just sit down, shut up, and smile politely.
jetero wrote:Not sure why the right wing rags aren’t running with that story. It’d resonate way more with people.
And Nikky, as I am starting to get to know you, not sure why you would be cheerleading a governor who did this to begin with. New York State is not New York City. If you want economic development, there are better places in New York than Long Island City.
MaverickM11 wrote:NIKV69 wrote:I am so glad I only have 10-15 years left in NY.
"I hate this place so much I'm going to stay 15 years"![]()
DIRECTFLT wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:NIKV69 wrote:I am so glad I only have 10-15 years left in NY.
"I hate this place so much I'm going to stay 15 years"![]()
Actually, according to AOC, we've only got 12 years left.
jetero wrote:DIRECTFLT wrote:MaverickM11 wrote:"I hate this place so much I'm going to stay 15 years"![]()
Actually, according to AOC, we've only got 12 years left.
Maybe she has the direct line to Jesus. I’ve been hearing for a while now he’s going to be back any day.
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NYC and WAS do not need any help attracting jobs. If Amazon wants to move there, fine, but don't insult our intelligence with a "competition", giving far more deserving cities false hopes.
frmrCapCadet wrote:Seattle adding upwards of 50,000 workers at Amazon had a powerful impact on the whole city. It was done knowingly - Amazon, Paul Allen, city and state government were mostly aware of the implications. Most friends living in 1920s houses that were built for the middle class find themselves living in million dollar houses now. To move to Seattle and live there requires upwards of $200K household income. Thousands of the poor (anyone earning less than $50K) are in desperate shape. It is still a great place to live - people are still moving in, schools are crowded, public transportation lags but is heavily used.
A city has the right and responsibility to decide if they want to take upon themselves all of that. Even NYC, and especially the neighborhood for miles around will be impacted - for good and for ill.
jetero wrote:Quite honestly the idea of NY State and Northern Virginia subsidizing Amazon is ridiculous and should be against the law on interstate commerce clause grounds. I really hope the Democrats will make this part of their platform. How are states like West Virginia supposed to recover and build new industries when they don’t have any money to throw at companies? Michigan still has money, keeps on throwing it at companies, and how has that worked out?
Dieuwer wrote:AOC chimes in: https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1093921428452360193
New York State should actually consider ARRESTING Bezos the moment he sets foot in NYC. The charges? Fraud, graft, blackmail, subversion, bribery, and extortion.
anrec80 wrote:Dieuwer wrote:AOC chimes in: https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1093921428452360193
New York State should actually consider ARRESTING Bezos the moment he sets foot in NYC. The charges? Fraud, graft, blackmail, subversion, bribery, and extortion.
Do you want to just jail leadership of good quarter of NYC's largest businesses? There city id stuffed with investment banks, hedge funds of all sorts. They all can be charged with something.
frmrCapCadet wrote:It has been noted that Amazon chose two of the highest cost of living and taxed(?) areas of the US. New York workers would be paying income taxes.
It is a huge problem for those earning less than $100K to be priced out. A major city needs hundreds of thousands of workers who are earning than that in order to function. Affordable housing is a concern for everyone.
PIMountaineer wrote:It's about time someone challenged the status quo.
NIKV69 wrote:PIMountaineer wrote:It's about time someone challenged the status quo.
Not when doing so will further escalate the exodus out of the state. Besides I am pretty sure Cuomo will win this one. He doesn't like things he has worked hard on to go down the crapper. I am a sure he has been doing some damage control.
It's the difference between being an executive or a lawmaker, AOC has no idea how to run anything that has to do with budgets and revenue and it really shows.
Dieuwer wrote:CANCELLED
anrec80 wrote:Dieuwer wrote:CANCELLED
Good news IMHO. Fewer men in the City, more women.
Pi7472000 wrote:This is a huge win for the people!! Give those tax breaks to public transpiration, public schools, those on long term disability, health care, small business, disadvantaged seniors, or college students with debt etc.! Corporations like Amazon do not need public subsidies or tax break. It is gross we do this for large, profitable companies, but not for other sectors. The people of New York who spoke up against large corporations have a huge victory today! There definitely is a divide in the Democrat Party between wealthy, pro-business/money Democrats and those on the left who actually put the interests of people first!
Pi7472000 wrote:This is a huge win for the people!! Give those tax breaks to public transpiration, public schools, those on long term disability, health care, small business, disadvantaged seniors, or college students with debt etc.! Corporations like Amazon do not need public subsidies or tax break. It is gross we do this for large, profitable companies, but not for other sectors. The people of New York who spoke up against large corporations have a huge victory today! There definitely is a divide in the Democrat Party between wealthy, pro-business/money Democrats and those on the left who actually put the interests of people first!
mham001 wrote:Brilliant.
How many public transpiration, public schools, those on long term disability, health care, disadvantaged seniors, or college students with debt pay taxes in the first place?
compensateme wrote:mham001 wrote:Brilliant.
How many public transpiration, public schools, those on long term disability, health care, disadvantaged seniors, or college students with debt pay taxes in the first place?
Uh, many people on LTD, many disadvantaged seniors and many college students pay federal and (if applicable) state taxes.
mham001 wrote:compensateme wrote:mham001 wrote:Brilliant.
How many public transpiration, public schools, those on long term disability, health care, disadvantaged seniors, or college students with debt pay taxes in the first place?
Uh, many people on LTD, many disadvantaged seniors and many college students pay federal and (if applicable) state taxes.
More brilliance.
I take it you've never actually filed? You have to make money to pay federal and state income taxes. You don't pay any federal or state income tax until you reach certain levels of income. If you don't reach those levels, you can often even get extra money back. "college students with debt" pay ZERO taxes. LTD depends on the source of the income. a "disadvantaged" senior is probably not paying anything either, if they exceed income levels, then maybe they are not all that "disadvantaged"?
The notion that public transportation and public schools should get a "tax break" is hilarious.