BN747 wrote:anrec80 wrote:DeltaMD90 wrote:Viewpoints like these really question your intellectual honesty and belittle your other points. I'm really not exactly sure what you're arguing, I mean I guess the most important opinions on North Korean governance are from North Koreans... hopefully we can agree there.
But um, I get we are coming from different angles of things, but seriously? North Korea? You don't see any sort of oppression and the blocking of citizens to have a fair say in their government? I'm sure if you could honestly poll North Koreans and wave a magic wand, their version of North Korea would be much different than the (universally acknowledged) mess we see today.
What exactly is your point? I'm hearing a bunch of "it's up to the North Koreans and we aren't North Koreans lalalalalala all is fair lalalalalala nothing to see here"
I'll try to rephrase and simplify my point. In my view - nobody from outside of North Korea should tell North Koreans how to live and how to run their state. That includes criticism of what's wrong there, what should be changed - things like "dictatorship", "authoritarian rule", "oppressive regime" and the likes. North Koreans should figure all that out themselves. Nothing else. I don't tend to criticize their leadership and their government for this very reason.
There just are a few people here who still like to "democratize" other countries, and nothing good ever comes out of that.
You rephrased it and it’s even more of a disaster.
How the hell can the North Koreans decide who to rule/govern them when that decision is NOT actually up to them at all?
The thing that makes us is human... is called ‘Humanity’. Humanity, worldwide has taken a unified stand against inhumanity everywhere. North Korea is atop that list of such nations.
Now you go ahead continue publicly telling people (or who ever listens to you) that ‘what goes on in North Korea is no one’s concern- if they look at you as though you have a third eye.....welllll..
Our Anrec80 defends the Putin regime, so he believes that we cannot have an opinion about the Putin regime and their democratic standing, or lack there of, because if Russians want something else, it is up to the Russians to remove the Putin regime. But even that is ridiculous with the amount of control the Putin regime has.