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DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:23 am

So, with all the BS going on last month, I thought I'd give the DNA thing a shot. Ancestry.com had a $69 deal going on, so I went ahead and spit into the tube and sent it back to them. They said 6-8 weeks, but the results came back this morning.

No real surprises, based on the regions in Greece my parents came from.

Greece and the Balkans...44%
Italy...30%
Turkey and the Caucasus...21%
Middle East...4%
Baltic States...1%

I'd be interested in what my wife's make-up is, but she is resistant to doing it. Her dad is German/Irish, her Mom is Italian/Irish, though both sides of her family are 3 or more generations removed from their respective homelands.

Anyone else do the DNA thing?
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:46 am

I did.

Ancestry DNA has since refreshed the results and they came out as follows:
Portugal: 39%
Spain: 16%
Native American: 14%
Bantu: 9%
France: 4%
Italy: 4%
European Jewish: 3%

Everything else is about 1%. Main point: 55% Iberian Peninsula (White), 16% Native American, 9% African (Black), and the rest scattered throughout.
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:07 am

einsteinboricua wrote:
I did.

Portugal: 39%
Spain: 16%


I'm surprised that they break that region out along political boundaries.
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:28 am

I did mine back in 2016, but they’ve since refined my results, as they have a lot more samples now to compare to. Now 96% British Isles, with the main part which they called Genetic Communities in 2016, from the Limerick, Waterford, Dublin area (Southern Ireland). The rest was Scandinavia and Africa. How far do they trace it back? The site says that since AncestryDNA first launched, they've continued to add new regions and improve the precision of results. DNA research is a fast-paced, cutting-edge field, and you can expect us to make more advancements as DNA science evolves. Your DNA doesn’t change, but the science we use to analyze it does. Your results may change over time as the science improves. I did however get a different result with MyHeritage, not vastly of course, but the results were more spread into southern Europe, as was the initial result with the above aforementioned site.
 
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:37 am

fr8mech wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
I did.

Portugal: 39%
Spain: 16%


I'm surprised that they break that region out along political boundaries.


historic, geographic, cultural and language differences produced the political boundaries :-)
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:42 am

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historic, geographic, cultural and language differences produced the political boundaries :-)


My point exactly. DNA doesn't "know" political divisions. I certainly don't claim to be an expert on the matter, but I would have thought people who originate from that part of the world would be identified more as a region...Iberian, maybe.
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:56 am

fr8mech wrote:
WIederling wrote:
historic, geographic, cultural and language differences produced the political boundaries :-)


My point exactly. DNA doesn't "know" political divisions. I certainly don't claim to be an expert on the matter, but I would have thought people who originate from that part of the world would be identified more as a region...Iberian, maybe.


it is genetic Portuguese resp. Spanish derivation.

Today's political boundaries reflect the longstanding genetic/cultural differentiation.
Most European boundaries are not synthetic like in the Americas, Africa and the Middle East.
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:56 am

I like the history of the regions they provide on the site also. I am keen to see how the whole site evolves and what enhancements they come up with that are not part of an ongoing subscription - which is pricey. I had it for a time but let it lapse, reinstating it just once so far for a six month period.

I find it interesting with this whole DNA thing, that having got other family members to do it and compare, I think that even though I look like and am more like my paternal grandparents, the paternal side of Scottish and north-western Europe did not come up near as high as the Irish result, that is the maternal side. I think the MyHeritage goes more into the science and breakdowns of these type of things. Many more discoveries to be made in this field for sure.
 
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:04 am

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I like the history of the regions they provide on the site also.


I'm just discovering that part of the website now. It's interesting to read. Of course, it begs more questions, so I go into that great fishing hole called Wikipedia to flesh things out a bit more.
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:10 am

I would be interested to know. As far as I know, my family from both sides are from the north of The Netherlands, many generations, they were (and some are) farmers. On the other hand, my appearance is somewhat Mediterranean. Some people did think that I came from Israel, Italy or Spain. :shock:

I hesitate to go to a company like MyHeritage. They sell your DNA (probably in anonymized data form, but still) to drug companies. So I do not trust companies like these.
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:42 am

fr8mech wrote:
WIederling wrote:
historic, geographic, cultural and language differences produced the political boundaries :-)


My point exactly. DNA doesn't "know" political divisions. I certainly don't claim to be an expert on the matter, but I would have thought people who originate from that part of the world would be identified more as a region...Iberian, maybe.

Well, they mention current day boundaries. I'm pretty certain that if you have Greco-Italian DNA you're not exactly Roman, and saying you're Mediterranean is still too broad a definition. The old results placed emphasis on regions (so I was nearly 66% Iberian Peninsula), but that doesn't tell me much about where within the region my ancestors possibly came from. The new results narrow down based on present-day boundaries (so the fact that I have more Portuguese than Spaniard is surprising).
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:01 pm

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The new results narrow down based on present-day boundaries (so the fact that I have more Portuguese than Spaniard is surprising).


Depends on genetic diffusion ( population mobility ) , doesn't it?

For some Swiss alpine valleys you can point to the exact valley some person was born into.
( assuming you have proper reference DNA. They also have ( used to have ) per valley dialects.)
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:11 pm

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einsteinboricua wrote:
The new results narrow down based on present-day boundaries (so the fact that I have more Portuguese than Spaniard is surprising).


Depends on genetic diffusion ( population mobility ) , doesn't it?

Well, let's not forget that Portugal and Spain were, for a while, united, so there's that possibility as well.
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:36 pm

Had mine done a couple of years ago, given to me as a gift by my wife. The results, not surprisingly, were 99% Irish 1% Iberian Region. Obviously, the Spanish Armada made landfall in Ireland!!
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Re: DNA Tested

Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:05 pm

With the crimes I've committed through the years there's no way I'm giving my DNA to anyone without a warrant.
 
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Re: DNA Tested

Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:42 pm

I did it and was something like 50% italian 30% german 20% belgian or something
so basically short, fair hair and with Bierbauch
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Re: DNA Tested

Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:43 pm

Uh oh, fr8, 4% Middle Eastern? Sounds like you’ve literally got some “sleeper cells.”
 
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Re: DNA Tested

Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:55 am

I have a rare craniofacial syndrome called Treacher Collins syndrome, caused (mainly) by mutations in the gene TCOF1, although two other genes (POLR1C and -D) are also implicated in causing some forms of TCS. I would like to be sequenced and tested for the particular mutation in my case.

I'm also first generation Irish-American, so would like to trace my genetic lineage.

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Re: DNA Tested

Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:45 am

The Iberian peninsula was conquered by "Moors" and stayed under their control for centuries so everyone that can be linked to that region probably has some Middle Eastern/North African DNA. I guess they take that into account when saying you are X% Spanish.

MassAppeal wrote:
With the crimes I've committed through the years there's no way I'm giving my DNA to anyone without a warrant.


If someone in your extended family does it you might be screwed anyway.

Personally I'll wait for cheap home DNA sequencers so my data can stay private.
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Re: DNA Tested

Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:51 am

Well I know if I got my DNA tested it’d be 100% American.
 
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Re: DNA Tested

Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:12 pm

SmithAir747 wrote:
I have a rare craniofacial syndrome called Treacher Collins syndrome, caused (mainly) by mutations in the gene TCOF1, although two other genes (POLR1C and -D) are also implicated in causing some forms of TCS. I would like to be sequenced and tested for the particular mutation in my case.

With all the time you've spent in and around hospitals on both sides of the exam table, I'm genuinely surprised you haven't yet.

SmithAir747 wrote:
I'm also first generation Irish-American, so would like to trace my genetic lineage.

I'd imagine Ireland to be a place where you might be able to trace it back to a specific village or small region.
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Re: DNA Tested

Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:51 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
European Jewish: 3%


Yay, expanding our numbers! (My sister did a test recently and found out we are like 5% Ashkenazi Jewish)

The rest of the test was unsurprising, 95ish% Eastern European or Slavic, can't remember the exact term. I'm just surprised it wasn't 100%
 
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Re: DNA Tested

Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:18 pm

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Uh oh, fr8, 4% Middle Eastern? Sounds like you’ve literally got some “sleeper cells.”


Not really unexpected...actually, I thought the percentage would be higher, but the Turk part may account for some of my expectation.
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Re: DNA Tested

Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:51 pm

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Personally I'll wait for cheap home DNA sequencers so my data can stay private.


The Brits have come up with a portable DNA sequencer, the size of a USB hard drive or mobile phone, that can be used at doctors' surgeries, clinics, and at home. It's called the MinION, by Oxford Nanopore Technologies.

https://nanoporetech.com/

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Re: DNA Tested

Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:55 pm

my family genealogy chart doesn't match my DNA testing. So all those years of research was kind of a waste.
55% UK, French, 20% 13% Italian 7% German 3% Greece and very small amounts of other European countries.

The biggest shocker, is that i have Jewish grandmother with no Jewish DNA and my dad was not adopted.
i guess it's good they are dead and none the wiser that apparently there was a whole lot of cheating going on for this to happen.
kind of sad only because my grandmother felt persecuted for nothing.
 
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Re: DNA Tested

Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:37 pm

SmithAir747 wrote:
Aesma wrote:
Personally I'll wait for cheap home DNA sequencers so my data can stay private.


The Brits have come up with a portable DNA sequencer, the size of a USB hard drive or mobile phone, that can be used at doctors' surgeries, clinics, and at home. It's called the MinION, by Oxford Nanopore Technologies.

https://nanoporetech.com/

SmithAir747


Thanks, it's almost affordable, not much time to wait for me.
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Re: DNA Tested

Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:14 am

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... with Bierbauch


That is more of an occupational risk than a genetic feature, isn't it?
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