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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:32 am

jetwet1 wrote:
seahawk wrote:
afcjets wrote:

I am pro life. To me abortion is a term just as harsh if not harsher because when I hear it I see it for what it is, the vacuuming and/or stabbing of a human fetus (which looks an awful lot like a baby).


Most liberals simply do not see the cruel medieval like termination of precious human life and abortion imho lacks the active part of the person doing the killing. So I prefer the term murder, because that is what it is and that is how it should be punished.


And most conservatives want nothing to do with the child once it's out of the womb until it's old enough to be shot at a school.....

If you are going to make stupid blanket statements be prepared for the same in kind.


I always love how liberals justify murder by saying "conservatives" don'w want to pay for others kids when they are born.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:35 am

2122M wrote:
VTKillarney wrote:
The only thing that Democrats really have going for them is tariffs. Trump's support in the middle of the country is showing signs of cracking over this issue. Ironically, this is something that Trump did to himself. It's not something that the Democrats created.

The issues that the Democrats are hammering aren't moving the needle. They are already priced in when it comes to Trump. His polls, for example, didn't really move at all after the Russia summit. This is what happens when you cry wolf much too often.


Actually, his poll numbers were slowly climbing from the end of 2017 when he was in the high 30's all they way to the Russia summit, after which they flat lined and actually began to sink a little. Keep in mind, he made it all they back up to a whopping 44% approval rating, his all time high since right after the election.

Also, have a look at mid-term poll numbers after the Russia debacle. It really gave Dem candidates a nice boost running against pro-Trump candidates.


What Russia debacle? His poll numbers have risen to upper 40s since then.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:37 am

bagoldex wrote:
Tugger wrote:
Clinton had it right the first time, the only thing that matters:
It's the economy stupid!

Tugg


With any luck the 2019 recession will come early.


Lefties always wish for the worst.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:39 am

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I am pretty much a lifelong Democrat, even before I could vote in 1972. As the 2018 election season comes upon us, Democrats will have an opportunity to gain seats in the House and Senate but will they get enough of the votes to take over one of both and be a balance vs. Pres. Trump. The campaign for them in 2018 may be difficult due to district 'gerrymandering' favoring Republicans who control most states legislative and Governor's seats as well as putting in laws that limited the ability to vote by some, especially non-Whites and strongly Democrats. Democrats also have too many crooks, take too much money from the rich and corporate interests and some are 'too liberal'. Democrats are depicted by Republicans as 'Tax and Spend Liberals', care too much about non-Whites, persons here illegally and the 'undeserving poor', abortion access, not supporting law enforcement or the military and too pro-GLTBQ.

Democrats will not win just by bashing Trump or Republicans, they must offer positive polices that a broad range of voters will support yet avoid 'identity politics' I do believe there are areas that Democrats can accent in their campaign.

Propose a new 'voting rights act'. The right to vote is one of our most important ones. There must be National standards to limit gerrymandering, assure fair ID and registration laws, require verifiable paper ballots and non-hackable computer software, reverse 'Citizens United' as to campaign funding, limit the use of felony conviction voter bans, multiday and voting by mail ballot encouraged, sound funding for voting systems security.

Keep fighting for fair treatment of persons here illegally but also go after employers of illegals to reduce exploitation, a large but well managed work permit program, support actions in the source countries of many of these work and political asylum seekers to reduce the need to leave those countries. Go after those that separated the children and parents of those that entered illegally causing unspeakable damage.

Review and revise the recent tax cuts, returning the full deduction of state and local taxes, cap cuts on the rich, penalize real property, stock and other investment short-term 'flipping', revise the Alternative Minimum Tax, revise taxation of Americans living outside the USA. close the loopholes and put the teeth back into IRS tax law enforcement so the rich and big corporations pay their fair share.

Push for a massive infrastructure program that would provide millions of good paying jobs. Balance it with limits on profits of contractors, sound but not excessive pay, limit union rules that lead to excessive staffing of projects, that the monies spent for land and property acquired for projects is not going to politicians and their friends who got tipped off.

Propose massive hearings of Cabinet and other Trump Administrative officials for their horrible policies, destroying good and sound regulations.

Most of all, clean up their own criminals and crooks, seek new, younger and more woman leaders in the party and move away from funding from the rich and corporate interests.


Except I don't think that matters. Look at Alexandria Octavio-Cortez. She runs a campaign based on positive issues, gets a break from having an incumbent who didn't give a shit, and is now getting dragged through the mud by both conservative and "liberal" MSM outlets as being a radical socialist. They're basically trying to scare away anyone else from trying to run on that kind of platform.

I would love to know what percentage of the population actually takes time to research the candidates and make a voting opinion beyond D vs R. And yes, I know with local races, information gathering is tough due to lack of campaign websites and media coverage of them.


SHe's a brain dead marxist, her policies are bad.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:48 am

Bigstud69 wrote:
bagoldex wrote:
Tugger wrote:
Clinton had it right the first time, the only thing that matters:
It's the economy stupid!

Tugg


With any luck the 2019 recession will come early.


Lefties always wish for the worst.


It was inevitable long before Trump. The economy has cycles. This one was prolonged due to the restrictions on risky lending after the 2008 crash. The point he's making is he wishes it would come sooner to remind people that at best, the president can only influence the cycle.

I mean, it's been performing well DESPITE the presidents actions. It's been resilient enough to prove how little the president influences it.

Yes congress has more influence, but once again what exactly did "tax cuts" do? It just increased stock buybacks, which only benefits shareholders. Not the economy as a whole. It just made stock market indices soar... briefly... until we started talking about trade wars.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:48 am

Pi7472000 wrote:
We need socialists to win in the US. The Democrats are as awful as the Republicans. They protect the wealthy. We need more socialism in the 2018 mid terms. We nee to vote out wealthy Republicans and Democrats!!! Free health care, college, and increased taxes on the wealthy and middle class is what we need to decrease the income inequality created by Democrats and Republicans!! I vote for the interets of the poor!!


You're proof why we need a poll tax again.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:49 am

Jouhou wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:
bagoldex wrote:

With any luck the 2019 recession will come early.


Lefties always wish for the worst.


It was inevitable long before Trump. The economy has cycles. This one was prolonged due to the restrictions on risky lending after the 2008 crash. The point he's making is he wishes it would come sooner to remind people that at best, the president can only influence the cycle.

I mean, it's been performing well DESPITE the presidents actions. It's been resilient enough to prove how little the president influences it.

Yes congress has more influence, but once again what exactly did "tax cuts" do? It just increased stock buybacks, which only benefits shareholders. Not the economy as a whole. It just made stock market indices soar... briefly... until we started talking about trade wars.


The tax cuts worked and they have been the basis for the surge in growth we've had the past year. Thank god for them.
I find it comical people like you still trash them when you've been proven wrong over and over again.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:55 am

Bigstud69 wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:

Lefties always wish for the worst.


It was inevitable long before Trump. The economy has cycles. This one was prolonged due to the restrictions on risky lending after the 2008 crash. The point he's making is he wishes it would come sooner to remind people that at best, the president can only influence the cycle.

I mean, it's been performing well DESPITE the presidents actions. It's been resilient enough to prove how little the president influences it.

Yes congress has more influence, but once again what exactly did "tax cuts" do? It just increased stock buybacks, which only benefits shareholders. Not the economy as a whole. It just made stock market indices soar... briefly... until we started talking about trade wars.


The tax cuts worked and they have been the basis for the surge in growth we've had the past year. Thank god for them.
I find it comical people like you still trash them when you've been proven wrong over and over again.


What growth exactly? Where I live Trumps entire campaign seemed tone deaf, we actually had a slightly lower unemployment rate before his election. The U3 hovered around 2.1% Currently it is 2.3%. The labor shortage has been crimping our local economy and limiting growth for years. Small businesses close because they can't find reliable employees at rates they can afford. There's been negligible "growth" here.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:29 am

Bigstud69 wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
LittleSprocket wrote:
Besides impeaching Trump


who is running on impeaching Trump? Removing a traitor from power is a legit reason, but we don´t here much about it, don´t we?

best regards
Thomas

Only traitors are the hate america left, always have been.


Rather seems that all progress made in America came from the left, they made America great. Trump makes America Russian.

Best regards
Thomas
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:44 pm

Bigstud69 wrote:
2122M wrote:
VTKillarney wrote:
The only thing that Democrats really have going for them is tariffs. Trump's support in the middle of the country is showing signs of cracking over this issue. Ironically, this is something that Trump did to himself. It's not something that the Democrats created.

The issues that the Democrats are hammering aren't moving the needle. They are already priced in when it comes to Trump. His polls, for example, didn't really move at all after the Russia summit. This is what happens when you cry wolf much too often.


Actually, his poll numbers were slowly climbing from the end of 2017 when he was in the high 30's all they way to the Russia summit, after which they flat lined and actually began to sink a little. Keep in mind, he made it all they back up to a whopping 44% approval rating, his all time high since right after the election.

Also, have a look at mid-term poll numbers after the Russia debacle. It really gave Dem candidates a nice boost running against pro-Trump candidates.


What Russia debacle? His poll numbers have risen to upper 40s since then.


First of all, what do you mean, "What Russia debacle". Did you see the press conference? Did you not watch him throw is own intelligence community under the bus in order to blindly agree with a dictator from a hostile nation? Then I guess you missed the bit where he assumed we are all the dumbest people on the world when he claimed he meant to say "wouldn't". Then he backtracked and said it could be other people. Then claimed Russia did meddle, but only to help Dems (despite Putin saying otherwise while standing 3 feet away from him).

Did you miss all that, or are you just supportive of all that?

Anyway, here's the link showing his approval rating flatling after that Russia debacle:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6179.html
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:51 pm

2122M wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:
2122M wrote:

Actually, his poll numbers were slowly climbing from the end of 2017 when he was in the high 30's all they way to the Russia summit, after which they flat lined and actually began to sink a little. Keep in mind, he made it all they back up to a whopping 44% approval rating, his all time high since right after the election.

Also, have a look at mid-term poll numbers after the Russia debacle. It really gave Dem candidates a nice boost running against pro-Trump candidates.


What Russia debacle? His poll numbers have risen to upper 40s since then.


First of all, what do you mean, "What Russia debacle". Did you see the press conference? Did you not watch him throw is own intelligence community under the bus in order to blindly agree with a dictator from a hostile nation? Then I guess you missed the bit where he assumed we are all the dumbest people on the world when he claimed he meant to say "wouldn't". Then he backtracked and said it could be other people. Then claimed Russia did meddle, but only to help Dems (despite Putin saying otherwise while standing 3 feet away from him).

Did you miss all that, or are you just supportive of all that?

Anyway, here's the link showing his approval rating flatling after that Russia debacle:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6179.html

In other words, his approval rating didn’t fall. That’s yuuuuge.

You can thank the Democrats for that. They blew their credibility a long time ago when it comes to Trump.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:56 pm

2122M wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:
2122M wrote:

Actually, his poll numbers were slowly climbing from the end of 2017 when he was in the high 30's all they way to the Russia summit, after which they flat lined and actually began to sink a little. Keep in mind, he made it all they back up to a whopping 44% approval rating, his all time high since right after the election.

Also, have a look at mid-term poll numbers after the Russia debacle. It really gave Dem candidates a nice boost running against pro-Trump candidates.


What Russia debacle? His poll numbers have risen to upper 40s since then.


First of all, what do you mean, "What Russia debacle". Did you see the press conference? Did you not watch him throw is own intelligence community under the bus in order to blindly agree with a dictator from a hostile nation?


Blindly disagree you mean to say. Putin was asked if he wanted Trump as US president and if he had directed Russian government agencies to make that happen during that very same press conference.

We have a confession from the perpetrator.

The question isn´t "did they do it", as they confessed, it is only who knew what when in the Trump team.

best regards
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:58 pm

VTKillarney wrote:
2122M wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:

What Russia debacle? His poll numbers have risen to upper 40s since then.


First of all, what do you mean, "What Russia debacle". Did you see the press conference? Did you not watch him throw is own intelligence community under the bus in order to blindly agree with a dictator from a hostile nation? Then I guess you missed the bit where he assumed we are all the dumbest people on the world when he claimed he meant to say "wouldn't". Then he backtracked and said it could be other people. Then claimed Russia did meddle, but only to help Dems (despite Putin saying otherwise while standing 3 feet away from him).

Did you miss all that, or are you just supportive of all that?

Anyway, here's the link showing his approval rating flatling after that Russia debacle:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6179.html

In other words, his approval rating didn’t fall. That’s yuuuuge.

You can thank the Democrats for that. They blew their credibility a long time ago when it comes to Trump.


HIs approval rating flatlined out of a steady climb and his disapproval rating shot up.

Anyway, you can claim all day long that no one is listening to the Trump scandals anymore, but we'll see what the mid-terms bring.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:09 pm

2122M wrote:
VTKillarney wrote:
2122M wrote:

First of all, what do you mean, "What Russia debacle". Did you see the press conference? Did you not watch him throw is own intelligence community under the bus in order to blindly agree with a dictator from a hostile nation? Then I guess you missed the bit where he assumed we are all the dumbest people on the world when he claimed he meant to say "wouldn't". Then he backtracked and said it could be other people. Then claimed Russia did meddle, but only to help Dems (despite Putin saying otherwise while standing 3 feet away from him).

Did you miss all that, or are you just supportive of all that?

Anyway, here's the link showing his approval rating flatling after that Russia debacle:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6179.html

In other words, his approval rating didn’t fall. That’s yuuuuge.

You can thank the Democrats for that. They blew their credibility a long time ago when it comes to Trump.


HIs approval rating flatlined out of a steady climb and his disapproval rating shot up.

Anyway, you can claim all day long that no one is listening to the Trump scandals anymore, but we'll see what the mid-terms bring.

If you use the right metric. The party in power is expected to lose ground in the midterms, Russian paranoia or not.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:16 pm

Bigstud69 wrote:
The tax cuts worked and they have been the basis for the surge in growth we've had the past year. Thank god for them.
I find it comical people like you still trash them when you've been proven wrong over and over again.

The tax cuts did not work. They haven't had a chance to work. Tax cuts actually take time to take effect and be influential beyond an initial flurry of strategy changes etc. Unless you have something documented and sourced anything that is happening is due to last years activity and planning.

Not saying it is not possible that the tax cuts will work (though no tax cuts have "worked" i.e. improved economic activity and success outside of normal in the past), just that your statement so far can't be supported (unless you have something to support your contention).

Over-taxation isn't good or desired but the recent tax cuts were not needed and could be detrimental depending on their effect of the national debt and the ability to manage it.

Tugg
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:19 pm

Bigstud69 wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:

Lefties always wish for the worst.


It was inevitable long before Trump. The economy has cycles. This one was prolonged due to the restrictions on risky lending after the 2008 crash. The point he's making is he wishes it would come sooner to remind people that at best, the president can only influence the cycle.

I mean, it's been performing well DESPITE the presidents actions. It's been resilient enough to prove how little the president influences it.

Yes congress has more influence, but once again what exactly did "tax cuts" do? It just increased stock buybacks, which only benefits shareholders. Not the economy as a whole. It just made stock market indices soar... briefly... until we started talking about trade wars.


The tax cuts worked and they have been the basis for the surge in growth we've had the past year. Thank god for them.
I find it comical people like you still trash them when you've been proven wrong over and over again.


And the deficit....but hey, we can all get Costco memberships, just no spare cash to spend there...
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:21 pm

VTKillarney wrote:
2122M wrote:
VTKillarney wrote:
In other words, his approval rating didn’t fall. That’s yuuuuge.

You can thank the Democrats for that. They blew their credibility a long time ago when it comes to Trump.


HIs approval rating flatlined out of a steady climb and his disapproval rating shot up.

Anyway, you can claim all day long that no one is listening to the Trump scandals anymore, but we'll see what the mid-terms bring.

If you use the right metric. The party in power is expected to lose ground in the midterms, Russian paranoia or not.


Unlike this one.....let's see who goes to jail. The Manafort trial...you know.... Trump's campaign manager.....is just starting.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:25 pm

Tugger wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:
The tax cuts worked and they have been the basis for the surge in growth we've had the past year. Thank god for them.
I find it comical people like you still trash them when you've been proven wrong over and over again.

The tax cuts did not work. They haven't had a chance to work. Tax cuts actually take time to take effect and be influential beyond an initial flurry of strategy changes etc. Unless you have something documented and sourced anything that is happening is due to last years activity and planning.

Not saying it is not possible that the tax cuts will work (though no tax cuts have "worked" i.e. improved economic activity and success outside of normal in the past), just that your statement so far can't be supported (unless you have something to support your contention).

Over-taxation isn't good or desired but the recent tax cuts were not needed and could be detrimental depending on their effect of the national debt and the ability to manage it.

Tugg


There is one aspect of the tax cut law that *has* resulted in verifiable changes in business activity.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/01/apple-i ... ord-h.html

Edit: bah i thought that article would address the repatriation of cash from overseas as one of the reasons Apple is paying more in dividends and share buybacks. Apple repatriated A LOT of cash this year due to the tax law. And will likely continue to do so

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/30/apples- ... stors.html
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:50 pm

trpmb6 wrote:
There is one aspect of the tax cut law that *has* resulted in verifiable changes in business activity.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/01/apple-i ... ord-h.html

Edit: bah i thought that article would address the repatriation of cash from overseas as one of the reasons Apple is paying more in dividends and share buybacks. Apple repatriated A LOT of cash this year due to the tax law. And will likely continue to do so

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/30/apples- ... stors.html

Yes, the corporate tax rate changes were the best part of the tax cut and had been needing to be addressed for years.

Tugg
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:13 pm

And the $12 billion payout to farmers will go to corporate farms like Monsanto and not mom-and-pop farmers. But, the MAGA crew will start insisting that is not true.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 837022002/

And we don't have any money for things like health care or helping seniors, disabled, or veterans.

EDIT:

There is this gem from the "we love free speech" MAGA crew

https://www.businessinsider.com/cnn-rep ... lly-2018-7

Let's just forget all that was said when Obama was president about speaking truth to power and how all sides need to be heard.
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:16 pm

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And the $12 billion payout to farmers will go to corporate farms like Monsanto and not mom-and-pop farmers. But, the MAGA crew will start insisting that is not true.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 837022002/

And we don't have any money for things like health care or helping seniors, disabled, or veterans.


As the article points out. This is how politicians act. This is the Swamp. Trump has not drained the Swamp. He has just made it his own.

Create a problem with Tariffs
Give a handout for relief of the tariffs
Reorganize the tariffs

Rinse/repeat.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:21 pm

[quote="Bigstud69"\]

You're proof why we need a poll tax again.[/quote]

If you don't like free and democratic elections, there are a number of countries that don't have them and I would recommend you move to one of them.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:02 am

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Pi7472000 wrote:
We need socialists to win in the US. The Democrats are as awful as the Republicans. They protect the wealthy. We need more socialism in the 2018 mid terms. We nee to vote out wealthy Republicans and Democrats!!! Free health care, college, and increased taxes on the wealthy and middle class is what we need to decrease the income inequality created by Democrats and Republicans!! I vote for the interests of the poor!!


You're proof why we need a poll tax again.


No poll tax... just a Constitutional Amendment that only land owners can vote.
And let's go back to letting the State Legislators elect the US Senators. People need to be involved in who their state representatives are.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:34 am

bhill wrote:
VTKillarney wrote:
2122M wrote:

HIs approval rating flatlined out of a steady climb and his disapproval rating shot up.

Anyway, you can claim all day long that no one is listening to the Trump scandals anymore, but we'll see what the mid-terms bring.

If you use the right metric. The party in power is expected to lose ground in the midterms, Russian paranoia or not.


Unlike this one.....let's see who goes to jail. The Manafort trial...you know.... Trump's campaign manager.....is just starting.


Manafort could be sentenced to jail time. For something he did regarding taxes before he ever came on the Trump Election Team.

.......................
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:54 am

Bigstud69 wrote:
Pi7472000 wrote:
We need socialists to win in the US. The Democrats are as awful as the Republicans. They protect the wealthy. We need more socialism in the 2018 mid terms. We nee to vote out wealthy Republicans and Democrats!!! Free health care, college, and increased taxes on the wealthy and middle class is what we need to decrease the income inequality created by Democrats and Republicans!! I vote for the interets of the poor!!


You're proof why we need a poll tax again.


Everything is free until someone has to actually pay for it.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:09 am

DL717 wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:
Pi7472000 wrote:
We need socialists to win in the US. The Democrats are as awful as the Republicans. They protect the wealthy. We need more socialism in the 2018 mid terms. We nee to vote out wealthy Republicans and Democrats!!! Free health care, college, and increased taxes on the wealthy and middle class is what we need to decrease the income inequality created by Democrats and Republicans!! I vote for the interets of the poor!!


You're proof why we need a poll tax again.


Everything is free until someone has to actually pay for it.


The only people saying "we can't afford free health care" is Republicans. Democrats want AFFORDABLE health care.

Bigstud: We have a poll tax: it's called voter identification.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:40 am

casinterest wrote:
Create a problem with Tariffs
Give a handout for relief of the tariffs
Reorganize the tariffs

Rinse/repeat.


Buy votes you mean, right?

In the meantime the GOP is busy aiding and embedding a foreign powers take over of the US: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... aeb106e246

Best regards
Thomas
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:51 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
bhill wrote:
VTKillarney wrote:
If you use the right metric. The party in power is expected to lose ground in the midterms, Russian paranoia or not.


Unlike this one.....let's see who goes to jail. The Manafort trial...you know.... Trump's campaign manager.....is just starting.


Manafort could be sentenced to jail time. For something he did regarding taxes before he ever came on the Trump Election Team.

.......................



We will see when the sentencing phase of the trail begins and what he is willing to share rather than rotting in Club Fed for the rest of his life...
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:21 pm

bhill wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
We will see when the sentencing phase of the trail begins and what he is willing to share rather than rotting in Club Fed for the rest of his life...

He needs to be convicted before there will be a sentencing phase. And something tells me that he will not receive a life sentence even if he is found guilty.

That said, if he was going to talk he would have likely done so by now. The feds can give him a much better deal before a conviction.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:51 pm

Cook Political Report moved TX's Senate race to lean R...this with TN being in the Tossup category with AZ and NV.

Let's see the promised government shutdown over the border wall funding that Trump said Mexico would pay for.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:00 pm

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We will see when the sentencing phase of the trail begins and what he is willing to share rather than rotting in Club Fed for the rest of his life...


He needs to be convicted before there will be a sentencing phase.



Wait.... what?!?
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:45 am

I don't know how much "white welfare" will play into this election but

https://www.salon.com/2018/08/01/white- ... -research/

I love the LBJ quote:

If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you

A Texas Democrat who put country ahead of party.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:49 am

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jetwet1 wrote:
seahawk wrote:

Most liberals simply do not see the cruel medieval like termination of precious human life and abortion imho lacks the active part of the person doing the killing. So I prefer the term murder, because that is what it is and that is how it should be punished.


And most conservatives want nothing to do with the child once it's out of the womb until it's old enough to be shot at a school.....

If you are going to make stupid blanket statements be prepared for the same in kind.


I always love how liberals justify murder by saying "conservatives" don'w want to pay for others kids when they are born.


What "murder" are you talking about? Righties DEMAND that every pregnancy go forward no questions asked but REFUSE to care for the child once it is outside the womb is why I post this. Also, is it the right time to talk about lowering the number of children shot at schools? Asking for a friend.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:51 pm

seb146 wrote:
I don't know how much "white welfare" will play into this election but

https://www.salon.com/2018/08/01/white- ... -research/

I love the LBJ quote:

If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you

A Texas Democrat who put country ahead of party.


I prefer to recall LBJs racist quotes, lest we forget the kind of person he really was. A racist POS.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lyndon-johns ... hts-racism
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 12:58 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
casinterest wrote:
Create a problem with Tariffs
Give a handout for relief of the tariffs
Reorganize the tariffs

Rinse/repeat.


Buy votes you mean, right?

In the meantime the GOP is busy aiding and embedding a foreign powers take over of the US: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... aeb106e246

Best regards
Thomas


Money well spent !! :checkmark: :checkmark:
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:07 pm

seb146 wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:
jetwet1 wrote:

And most conservatives want nothing to do with the child once it's out of the womb until it's old enough to be shot at a school.....

If you are going to make stupid blanket statements be prepared for the same in kind.


I always love how liberals justify murder by saying "conservatives" don'w want to pay for others kids when they are born.


What "murder" are you talking about? Righties DEMAND that every pregnancy go forward no questions asked but REFUSE to care for the child once it is outside the womb is why I post this. Also, is it the right time to talk about lowering the number of children shot at schools? Asking for a friend.


It's the right time to talk about lowering the number of black males murdered by black males. . . A number in the thousands, I might add.

Or, including black babies in the womb, those beating hearts snuffed out, would number in the hundreds of thousands...

Abortion Accounts for 61% of Black Deaths in America

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https://www.breitbart.com/big-governmen ... n-america/

Induced abortion is the leading cause of death in the United States and accounts for a disturbing 61 percent of deaths of African Americans, according to researchers from the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. In his July essay, the Rev. Clenard Childress, Jr. noted that 52 percent of all African American pregnancies end in abortion and that whereas abortion is the most common operation performed on women, it is also “the least regulated medical procedure” and is often “completely ignored by health regulation enforcement.”

Statistics reveal that nearly 1,800 unborn black babies are aborted every day, proportionately more than any other race, Rev. Childress observed. According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), between 2007 and 2010, more than 35 percent of the deaths by abortion in the United States happened to black babies, despite the fact that blacks represent only 12.8 percent of the population. Conversely, non-Hispanic whites, who make up 63.7% of America’s population, account for only 37.7% of all U.S. abortions.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:36 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
seb146 wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:

I always love how liberals justify murder by saying "conservatives" don'w want to pay for others kids when they are born.


What "murder" are you talking about? Righties DEMAND that every pregnancy go forward no questions asked but REFUSE to care for the child once it is outside the womb is why I post this. Also, is it the right time to talk about lowering the number of children shot at schools? Asking for a friend.


It's the right time to talk about lowering the number of black males murdered by black males. . . A number in the thousands, I might add.

Or, including black babies in the womb, those beating hearts snuffed out, would number in the hundreds of thousands...

Abortion Accounts for 61% of Black Deaths in America

Image

https://www.breitbart.com/big-governmen ... n-america/

Induced abortion is the leading cause of death in the United States and accounts for a disturbing 61 percent of deaths of African Americans, according to researchers from the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. In his July essay, the Rev. Clenard Childress, Jr. noted that 52 percent of all African American pregnancies end in abortion and that whereas abortion is the most common operation performed on women, it is also “the least regulated medical procedure” and is often “completely ignored by health regulation enforcement.”

Statistics reveal that nearly 1,800 unborn black babies are aborted every day, proportionately more than any other race, Rev. Childress observed. According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), between 2007 and 2010, more than 35 percent of the deaths by abortion in the United States happened to black babies, despite the fact that blacks represent only 12.8 percent of the population. Conversely, non-Hispanic whites, who make up 63.7% of America’s population, account for only 37.7% of all U.S. abortions.


Disturbing statistics to be sure. Then again that was Margaret Sanger’s goal for “undesirables”:

https://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/web ... 129037.xml
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:10 pm

DL717 wrote:
seb146 wrote:
I don't know how much "white welfare" will play into this election but

https://www.salon.com/2018/08/01/white- ... -research/

I love the LBJ quote:

If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you

A Texas Democrat who put country ahead of party.


I prefer to recall LBJs racist quotes, lest we forget the kind of person he really was. A racist POS.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lyndon-johns ... hts-racism


At least he was laying the groundwork in law for the United States, instead of regressing like current Republicans are doing.

Go look at the current Republican party and see how many are racist POS currently.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:14 pm

DL717 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
seb146 wrote:

What "murder" are you talking about? Righties DEMAND that every pregnancy go forward no questions asked but REFUSE to care for the child once it is outside the womb is why I post this. Also, is it the right time to talk about lowering the number of children shot at schools? Asking for a friend.


It's the right time to talk about lowering the number of black males murdered by black males. . . A number in the thousands, I might add.

Or, including black babies in the womb, those beating hearts snuffed out, would number in the hundreds of thousands...

Abortion Accounts for 61% of Black Deaths in America

Image

https://www.breitbart.com/big-governmen ... n-america/

Induced abortion is the leading cause of death in the United States and accounts for a disturbing 61 percent of deaths of African Americans, according to researchers from the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. In his July essay, the Rev. Clenard Childress, Jr. noted that 52 percent of all African American pregnancies end in abortion and that whereas abortion is the most common operation performed on women, it is also “the least regulated medical procedure” and is often “completely ignored by health regulation enforcement.”

Statistics reveal that nearly 1,800 unborn black babies are aborted every day, proportionately more than any other race, Rev. Childress observed. According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), between 2007 and 2010, more than 35 percent of the deaths by abortion in the United States happened to black babies, despite the fact that blacks represent only 12.8 percent of the population. Conversely, non-Hispanic whites, who make up 63.7% of America’s population, account for only 37.7% of all U.S. abortions.


Disturbing statistics to be sure. Then again that was Margaret Sanger’s goal for “undesirables”:

https://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/web ... 129037.xml


Breitbart? That's all you got?

When a 12 year old girl is raped, are you going to demand those two children be taken care of by your tax dollars? Of course not. You will demand she carry the pregnancy to term and, live or die, they will be on their own after birth. When a woman finds out her pill has failed and knows she and her partner can not afford children (the reason she was on the pill in the first place) are you going to demand that child be taken care of by your tax dollars? Of course not. Hell, you don't even want her to have access to the pill or any birth control.

People try to be responsible but you all just want someone to look down on.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:24 pm

There is a picture circulating among "liberals" on social media that shows two men both wearing a shirt that says "better to be a Russian than a Democrat." If this were any other time in history, I would take it with a grain of salt and claim it was photoshopped but, looking at the current attitude of the Republican party, I would say it is, sadly, true.....
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:40 pm

seb146 wrote:
DL717 wrote:
seb146 wrote:
I don't know how much "white welfare" will play into this election but

https://www.salon.com/2018/08/01/white- ... -research/

I love the LBJ quote:

If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you

A Texas Democrat who put country ahead of party.


I prefer to recall LBJs racist quotes, lest we forget the kind of person he really was. A racist POS.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lyndon-johns ... hts-racism


At least he was laying the groundwork in law for the United States, instead of regressing like current Republicans are doing.

Go look at the current Republican party and see how many are racist POS currently.


Who do you think actually made sure the law got passed?
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:03 pm

DL717 wrote:
seb146 wrote:
DL717 wrote:

I prefer to recall LBJs racist quotes, lest we forget the kind of person he really was. A racist POS.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lyndon-johns ... hts-racism


At least he was laying the groundwork in law for the United States, instead of regressing like current Republicans are doing.

Go look at the current Republican party and see how many are racist POS currently.


Who do you think actually made sure the law got passed?


"Segregation now, segregation forever!"

LBJ actually signed the bill making it law. Which party decided to take away the Voting Rights Act of 1965?
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:10 pm

seb146 wrote:
DL717 wrote:
seb146 wrote:

At least he was laying the groundwork in law for the United States, instead of regressing like current Republicans are doing.

Go look at the current Republican party and see how many are racist POS currently.


Who do you think actually made sure the law got passed?


"Segregation now, segregation forever!"

LBJ actually signed the bill making it law. Which party decided to take away the Voting Rights Act of 1965?


Are you recalling Democrats chants regarding segregation? Just wondering why you’d quote George Wallace, a Democrat.

Presidents don’t make law. They sign what keeps them relevant. Want to talk about Vietnam?

Clearly you don’t understand that the Voting Rights Act actually had an expiration date. It’s irrelevant and unneeded today anyway.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:17 pm

DL717 wrote:
seb146 wrote:
DL717 wrote:

Who do you think actually made sure the law got passed?


"Segregation now, segregation forever!"

LBJ actually signed the bill making it law. Which party decided to take away the Voting Rights Act of 1965?


Are you recalling Democrats chants regarding segregation? Just wondering why you’d quote George Wallace, a Democrat.

Presidents don’t make law. They sign what keeps them relevant. Want to talk about Vietnam?

Clearly you don’t understand that the Voting Rights Act actually had an expiration date. It’s irrelevant and unneeded today anyway.


Read up on the "Dixiecrats." They fled the Democratic party to the safety and racism and hatred of the Republican party.

Those who proudly display the Confederate flag and proclaim themselves "Proud Boys" and hate big gub'mint vote Republican more often.

I said LBJ signed the bill into law because that is how laws work. Want to talk about Iraq?

The Voting Rights Act is VERY needed today more than ever. Unless you are Republican. Go look at who is being taken off voter rolls.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:33 pm

seb146 wrote:
DL717 wrote:
seb146 wrote:

"Segregation now, segregation forever!"

LBJ actually signed the bill making it law. Which party decided to take away the Voting Rights Act of 1965?


Are you recalling Democrats chants regarding segregation? Just wondering why you’d quote George Wallace, a Democrat.

Presidents don’t make law. They sign what keeps them relevant. Want to talk about Vietnam?

Clearly you don’t understand that the Voting Rights Act actually had an expiration date. It’s irrelevant and unneeded today anyway.


Read up on the "Dixiecrats." They fled the Democratic party to the safety and racism and hatred of the Republican party.

Those who proudly display the Confederate flag and proclaim themselves "Proud Boys" and hate big gub'mint vote Republican more often.

I said LBJ signed the bill into law because that is how laws work. Want to talk about Iraq?

The Voting Rights Act is VERY needed today more than ever. Unless you are Republican. Go look at who is being taken off voter rolls.


I’m sorry you feel the world is falling apart on you. It’s not, but you can believe what you like. Doesn’t change much.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:40 am

DL717 wrote:
seb146 wrote:
DL717 wrote:

Are you recalling Democrats chants regarding segregation? Just wondering why you’d quote George Wallace, a Democrat.

Presidents don’t make law. They sign what keeps them relevant. Want to talk about Vietnam?

Clearly you don’t understand that the Voting Rights Act actually had an expiration date. It’s irrelevant and unneeded today anyway.


Read up on the "Dixiecrats." They fled the Democratic party to the safety and racism and hatred of the Republican party.

Those who proudly display the Confederate flag and proclaim themselves "Proud Boys" and hate big gub'mint vote Republican more often.

I said LBJ signed the bill into law because that is how laws work. Want to talk about Iraq?

The Voting Rights Act is VERY needed today more than ever. Unless you are Republican. Go look at who is being taken off voter rolls.


I’m sorry you feel the world is falling apart on you. It’s not, but you can believe what you like. Doesn’t change much.


I guess I am just making things up

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... imination/
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... rs-247905/

Ohio's voter purge of voters who have not voted in six years or longer is actually something that I agree with.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:03 am

DIRECTFLT wrote:

The 2016 mid-terms, MAY BE the first time since post Civil War, that a sitting R President has kept BOTH HOUSES!!!!!!!

Deal with those HARD Facts Sweetheart !!


Darling, it’s 2018 and those are not facts...we call that wishful thinking, pipe dreams, or (in context of this worthless POS president) treasonous speech.

Why are people so scared to call it for what it is? If you’re a Trump supporter, with all the analysis on the Kompromat the Kremlin has on him, infiltration of both the NRA, and IMHO, the Evangelical churches in America (watch for this to leak out soon), you are supporting a nefarious, murderous regime over your own country.

Own it, sugar dumpling.

#TREA45ON
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:17 am

Since some on here have a hard on about the “Jewishness” of Breitbart (oy!), here’s a fun little article on how the “alt-right” -oh hell, let’s just call them white supremacists- depicted Ben Shapiro after he stated he couldn’t support Trump:

(N.B. For all you snowflakes out there, the words “pussy,” “cuck,” and references to ovens during the Holocaust are all referenced. I hate to see conservatives triggered.)

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... tbart.html
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:34 pm

johnboy wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:

The 2016 mid-terms, MAY BE the first time since post Civil War, that a sitting R President has kept BOTH HOUSES!!!!!!!

Deal with those HARD Facts Sweetheart !!


Darling, it’s 2018 and those are not facts...we call that wishful thinking, pipe dreams, or (in context of this worthless POS president) treasonous speech.

Why are people so scared to call it for what it is? If you’re a Trump supporter, with all the analysis on the Kompromat the Kremlin has on him, infiltration of both the NRA, and IMHO, the Evangelical churches in America (watch for this to leak out soon), you are supporting a nefarious, murderous regime over your own country.

Own it, sugar dumpling.

#TREA45ON


Look, remember Hillary did *not* win the Election, so your characterization of the current President of the United States, as "supporting a nefarious, murderous regime over your own country," would only aptly apply in some parallel universe where Hillary actually won a Presidential Election !!

As to your characterization our current President of the United States as a "POS president," by what metrics do sane people use to assign "POS" to another human being?? You are clearly suffering from TDS. I know it, but maybe you don't. Harboring such Hate and vitriol cannot be good for you Johnboy.
 
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Re: Democrats and the 2018 election

Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:31 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
johnboy wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:

The 2016 mid-terms, MAY BE the first time since post Civil War, that a sitting R President has kept BOTH HOUSES!!!!!!!

Deal with those HARD Facts Sweetheart !!


Darling, it’s 2018 and those are not facts...we call that wishful thinking, pipe dreams, or (in context of this worthless POS president) treasonous speech.

Why are people so scared to call it for what it is? If you’re a Trump supporter, with all the analysis on the Kompromat the Kremlin has on him, infiltration of both the NRA, and IMHO, the Evangelical churches in America (watch for this to leak out soon), you are supporting a nefarious, murderous regime over your own country.

Own it, sugar dumpling.

#TREA45ON


Look, remember Hillary did *not* win the Election, so your characterization of the current President of the United States, as "supporting a nefarious, murderous regime over your own country," would only aptly apply in some parallel universe where Hillary actually won a Presidential Election !!


Go read up on those who cross Putin. And, Hillary actually DID win a majority of votes. But, the low information areas and areas that were redrawn by Republicans are what put the POS in the White House.

As to your characterization our current President of the United States as a "POS president," by what metrics do sane people use to assign "POS" to another human being?? You are clearly suffering from TDS. I know it, but maybe you don't. Harboring such Hate and vitriol cannot be good for you Johnboy.


Open hatred toward anyone who speaks out against him. Twitter rants. Breaking things then fixing them so they are terrible and proclaiming that he fixed someone else's mess. Backing racists. Advocating for restricting rights and freedoms for Americans. There is a long, long list of why this is the worst president ever. Not to mention all of the secrecy and blatant hypocrisy.

http://theweek.com/articles/779929/dona ... an-history
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-rank ... -scholars/

Without mentioning Obama, Hillary, "liberals," or Democrats, explain why tRump is the best president ever.

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