Brought more stability - where exactly?
I also saw a post by you in another thread justifying Russian meddling in the US as ‘fair game’ because the US has done so in other countries.
I agree with you from a historical standpoint due the cruelty the US inflicted upon Haiti after (Toussaint L’Overture dealt the French a serious ass kicking that forced France into a distress sale resulting in the US increasing size by 1/3) and the US has treated Haiti like crap since) but it goes beyond that the US meddling in South America, Mexico, the seriously FUBAR-Ing of Central Anerica by way of Prez Eisenhower & his pitbull VP...Richard Nixon. FUBAR Vietnam, FUBAR Iran/Contra/Nicaragua, etc.
Yes, we’ve have a very long history polluted with and endless string of self-serving piss poor decisions driven by largely by impulsive greed and other acts of savage conduct.
But now in this new age of wide spread dissemination of information/news at a never seen before rate of dispursement....people everywhere ‘see’ more of their world (along with everyone else’s) than ever before. Given this context, this campaign of ‘fake news’ ... has one obvious aim. To misinform as many humans as possible as quickly and as often as possible.
This CAN NOT in any way be conducive to a more civilized advanced and humane society.
I mean, haven’t we dwelled long enough in centuries long realm of animalistic behavior?
Russia and their agent US President Traitor Trump and their embracing of Ruthless dictators, Russian and it’s autocrat oligarchs like that moron of a leader in Azerbaijan and the like...I mean how many times must we go done this path only to know it only ends in the ugliest endings.
My point is this.. by saying don’t be pissed at Russia influencing the US because the US is doing the same is insane. It is insane because the two sides are in no way equally beneficial to the rest of the world. Pooty and Traitor Trump are despicable individuals but in vastly different ways, Pooty is a ruthless killer and will not accept any challenge to his dictator status. Traitor Trump would LOVE to be in that position except we have a (barely) viable opposition to Traitor Trump becoming America’s Pooty. It would not be so offensive if TRaitor Trump was as intelligent as Pooty and pulling the grift of the century, that being the wholesaling of America. But he’s a freakin’ imbecile! A complete an utter fool who knows how to corral the entire WWF fan base and America’s racists population.
So the choice is quite simply, an inept moron who is teetering on the line of some serious jail time and if America survives til Nov... he will be neutered instantly by the American people.
Pooty, no challenge or change in sight, just more ‘under my thumd’ Mini-mees. You tu204,may be okay with who ever wins - Pooty wins it all OR Pooty’s Bitch Traitor Trump reigns supreme and escapes Mueller’s dragnet scott-free.
You gotta stand for something...and it appears that either result is just fine with you. Am I wrong?
To tell you the truth, in the two options either one is fine with me. Moreover, by electing Trump I see that there is quite an agressive split within the US political circles and more importantly one within the actual population. That in my opinion will not "make America great" but will weaken the US on the geopolitical stage and probably the economjc one too.
Can't say that doesn't please me.
Especially since all the effort the US have made in trying to undermine our government by sponsoring and supporting opposition, which is destructive to the well being of our country as a whole.
I appreciate your honesty in stating your position as you have. Having lived abroad in a few nations I truly do understand the pride and loyalty to ones homeland. I feel for those who have experience such as that and lack empathy for those who love their home county as they themselves do. Having said that, I will now share my take on this.
The top military nations are the US, Russia & China.
No one disputes that.
So in that real life scenario, at the current rate of mounting a one winner standing when the dust clears...means someone will come out on top OR no one will aka we all perish.
The only other option is to wake up tomorrow and we all see massive foreign space craft hovering the worlds capitals as depicted in the film Indepence Day, in which a dominate superior force arrives to serve notice...that your world as you know, is over. Hollywood’s inclination to wrap up stories with a bow and cherry on top, took over from there and the film went into pure fantasy.
So with option not being a viable one, we have the situation we have now.
I personally would not like the live in a global community dominated by the Chinese, no offense my Chinese bros, I’ve spend time among your people and have an affinity for them, the culture and know it’s history. It’s the history part that alarms me as to what a Chinese dominated world would yield. See that video of that little girl hit by a van and people driving & walking past her limp body as she lay in the street for an incredible amount of time. Score someone emerges to help her.
Russia’s history is not lost on me either. They made it possible for the US to defeat Hitler, and in my opinion, Russia in no way received the accolades they deserved for Herculean act of achieving what they did, they deserve far far more credit than the little showered upon them. Yes the Red Army committed some gruesome actrocities along the route of payback, turn about is fair play. And the US military and Allied armies also commit some pretty unseemly acts that get little coverage. But Russia with its totalitarian take after WWII is nothing short of Hitler-Lite. Russia showed some promise with the rise people like Mikhail Khordokovsky (sic) attempting to bring about a free-er Russia. But Pooty put an end to that by taking his wealth and locking him up.
As much as Traitor Trump wants to do the same to Hillary Clinton and everyone who doesn’t kiss his pastu flabby ass, he cannot! Even though the current brand of Republicans are willing to carry him in the direction he wants to go, an enormous number the American population (more than half) do not and more voted against him than ‘for him’. The will of the people is what should always come first. If the will of the people chooses a tyrant like Dueterte in the Philippines, then so be it. But here the will of the people were usurped by the Electoral College an antiquated relic long past worth.
But more importantly, the USA has a built in framework/foundation in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, which the US has failed miserably in executing since its inception. However it still remains and is the only reason hope for a better world resonates.
No one here can put forth an argument against this litmus test...
Given there choice, where would MOST people of the world live if they could do so we’re it possible?
We all know that MOST people would choose #3. America.
Surely some nutcase will try counter that statement, but whoever you are you’d better include MOST people in your retort if you do.
So because of that built-in platform l, America is best suited to bring populations across the to a more just society. Any alternative is just subpar and just survival at best. So, yes tu204, I think your current leader is antithetical to those ideas of a just society. China’s okay with a Xi Jin Ping also comes up way short of a just society. A just society must be enforced to be made whole and reality. The current US leader, Traitor Trump is certainly against justice in anything except himself. So as of this moment he has made it clear he’s on his way to becoming Pooty Jr. But should he fail (I hope with every fiber in my body that he does)...then Pooty Pie is next. Traitor Trump is a danger to
America now, the world tomorrow. Pooty is already bad for Russia today (my opinion) YT with Traitor Trump dangling at the end of the string on his finger, Pooty is a danger to world if he managed to pull TT thru the mess he’s stuck in now.
America is best positioned to lead to a JUST global society, we just need to stop fucking around with clowns like TT and this brand of Aggressively Stupid Republicanism. It must end, enough already!
Any anyone against a JUST Global Society simply so say so. Or better options, let’s hear it.