Well. The amounts aren’t minuscule at all. Vicky Nuland stated - Ukrainian maidan received USD 5 billion (!) from USA only. Then there was EU funding of course. Organizations in Russia used to receive about $1 billion per year from Germany alone earlier this decade (before they passed “foreign agent” law requiring recipient organizations to disclose funding sources). Then there are USA or course, other EU countries.
This “grant slicing” is quite big and dirty business as you can see. And Pussy Riot aren’t exactly corruption exposers or investigators of some sort. Having sex in public (with people and food items) and exposing corruption are totally different areas.
What's the Maidan and other organisations in Russia got to do with this? You were talking about Pussy Riot, remember? The other day you wrote:
So wait a min - “something is going on” because of theses “Pussies”? Look - these ones are nobody, their business is just being visible to keep obtaining Western grants (out of your tax dollars), purposed for “democracy development”. One can’t become a leader to anybody and anything by having sex in a grocery store with a chicken leg.
If you want to waste your tax dollars on all those characters - feel free, by all means.
Stop trying to change the subject!
And who was jailed the last and for what?
My point exactly. I was being sarcastic . . .
Well it’s too early to say anything. Russian Foreign Affairs dept may as well get great international lawyers to help them, but it will take considerable amount of time to unfold.
Can't wait! But they might think twice about attempting to defend an illegal and botched job. They've only made it worse by parading the two hapless agents on TV.
Then where are the gloves? Report didn’t mention anything about the gloves or traces of glove material on the bottle either. I never handled such substances, hence can’t attest to need to use gloves. But experienced chemists do not always use them though. These gloves then will have quite a bit of this Novichok or its precursors on them or in them, and quite a few hundred people would get poisoned. Let alone the bottle was found in Amesbury, where our suspects have never been.
You really should remember what you write! You wanted to know why there were no fingerprints:
Now we are into “if” territory. All we have - are those 5 CCTV shots. Nothing else. Not even their fingerprints anywhere, including on that bottle. As I mentioned - the UK government had their fingerprints.
The report did not mention that there were no other people either. And if there weren’t indeed - this would have been the first thing they would have mentioned.
Are you for real? Why would the report mention that there were no people around, when they had no way of knowing, and why do you think this would be the first thing they would mention?
I don’t know that, I have never been to Salisbury. But - a) I am bad at directions and might well do something irrational and b) an inexperienced tourist might, not knowing what they are doing. You certainly don’t look for any rationale in actions of someone who doesn’t know where they are and what they are doing. And not necessarily have Google Maps on their mobile (if they have even them).
Okay, we'll assume for argument that they weren't using Google maps. You portray them as innocent tourists, not knowing where they were going. Why would you walk aimlessly around a city you don't know, looking for somewhere, without even a map? I travel to new cities regularly and have to find hotels, places of interest, etc. I don't ususally use my phone, but rely on instinct, maps, or asking for directions. Even if I don't speak the language it's not difficult to ask locals for basic directions. You memorise the names of places you are looking for, such as "Centre", "railway station" or "cathedral", and people will respond to such simple requests. Remember these guys had a particular fascination with Salisbury Cathdral, its spire and clock, so they surely would have known the words for these in English? The Russian for "cathedral" even sounds similar, so anyone would have easily known where they were looking for, given it's the city's main attraction. So any passer by could have pointed them easily in the direction of the cathedral, which they somehow managed to miss when leaving the station. Yet they walked half an hour away, along a quiet suburban road, away from the city centre! You really are doing your fellow Russians a disservice by portraying them as completly stupid. Yet they have their own "fitness business". I wonder how they manage to run that?
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