FIFA World Cup Thread

JJJ · Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:01 am

seahawk wrote:
wingman wrote:
Very valid points about Messi and you have to attribute much of his success and greatness to what is arguably an 8-10 year stretch of the greatest midfield in history at Barcelona. Xavi and Iniesta controlling the midfield up and feeding Messi chance after chance (with defenders still needing to worry about the likes of Jaws, Neymar and Mbappe etc.) And genius talent like Busquets controlling the back end of midfield. Messi without any of that all of a sudden looks quite mediocre and unsure about his position or purpose.

I still think he's a candidate for GOAT up to this point in the game but events like these create justifiable doubt. Cristiano, much as I don't like his prima donna personality or habit of diving does have a vicious desire to win every single game and he wears it on his face for all 90 minutes. Messi so often just doesn't show up when you need him most. Today was another example.

I think you can already call Ronaldo the big winner of the World Cup. From all the big stars he shows the best performance and the most commitment. Imho he has cemented his position as the greatest of this generation now, way ahead of Messi or Neymar.

He's scored a PK, a FK, a header totally clear of defenders and a GK fluke. Which is what a striker should do, but greatest of his generation?

Morocco played much better, but they just woudn't score.

Dutchy · Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:20 am

Such a pity that Morocco isn't going to advance to the next round.

scbriml · Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:04 pm

Brazil win, but it was a real struggle and Costa Rica had some decent chances. I've not been overly impressed by Brazil.

Dano1977 · Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:16 pm

You can look at your hand for as long as you want Diego, God isn't going to help you this time.

MrHMSH · Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:23 pm

Neymar really is a bit of a petulant crybaby, isn't he? Brazil not convincing but job done. Fantastic win for Nigeria which sets up a great showdown against Argentina, Iceland far from out of it.

wingman · Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:27 pm

Dano1977 wrote:

You can look at your hand for as long as you want Diego, God isn't going to help you this time.

OK, that's as good as "Mexico built a wall and Germany paid for it". Well done sir, well done. He's likely also thinking that he never would've survived in the VAR era.

64947 · Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:15 am

Dutchy wrote:
Sure they can host it just fine, but better than any other country? Com'on really? Do you really believe that shit?

Yup. Absolutely.

As good or better than any country other than China.

seahawk · Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:48 am

I hope Russia wins the title. They play good and they deserve it for organizing the best World Cup in recent times.

Chaostheory · Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:00 pm

KROOS!

My house just erupted. Kids and wife are going bonkers. What an end to the game.

scbriml · Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:15 pm

Chaostheory wrote:
KROOS!

My house just erupted. Kids and wife are going bonkers. What an end to the game.

Never. Write. Off. The. Germans.

BartSimpson · Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:07 am

seahawk wrote:
I hope Russia wins the title. They play good and they deserve it for organizing the best World Cup in recent times.

So, what was so awful about recent world cups in South Africa, Germany, Japan / South Korea, France, USA or maybe even Brazil?

David_itl · Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:09 pm

Having not played well, England dispatched Panama out of the competition with a 6-1 thrashing. Finally we had a referee who decided that the WWE style defending is not in the laws of football (though he still didn't give enough penalties). Kane is now leading the way for the Golden Boot.

Dutchy · Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:20 pm

tu204 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Sure they can host it just fine, but better than any other country? Com'on really? Do you really believe that shit?

Yup. Absolutely.

As good or better than any country other than China.

Can I sell you my make believe island please?

Still probably a result from corruption by FIFA members.

noviorbis77 · Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:06 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
Go Iceland Go Croatia!

Well Argentina does find things difficult against Atlantic islands.

I expect them to be eliminated in the group stage.

Disappointed with Poland. Thought they’d progess from their group.

Scorpius · Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:15 am

local meme of the championship:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxOLbjDp99s
Brazilian fan yells at the camera "Russia f**king awesome, bro! f**king awesome!".

L410Turbolet · Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:16 am

jetwet1 · Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:28 pm

BartSimpson wrote:
seahawk wrote:
I hope Russia wins the title. They play good and they deserve it for organizing the best World Cup in recent times.

So, what was so awful about recent world cups in South Africa, Germany, Japan / South Korea, France, USA or maybe even Brazil?

At least in South Africa, one word....vuvuzela

PPVRA · Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:48 pm

Scorpius wrote:
local meme of the championship:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxOLbjDp99s
Brazilian fan yells at the camera "Russia f**king awesome, bro! f**king awesome!".

Is the Kremlin implanting fake fans now? Because that guy is putting out sounds that no Brazilian could replicate that well, particularly when drunk.....

BartSimpson · Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:14 pm

jetwet1 wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
seahawk wrote:
I hope Russia wins the title. They play good and they deserve it for organizing the best World Cup in recent times.

So, what was so awful about recent world cups in South Africa, Germany, Japan / South Korea, France, USA or maybe even Brazil?

At least in South Africa, one word....vuvuzela

I remember that since I was there. But that*s not really the fault of the organizers. Also, I do have the impression that these things are used now at every big event, including this world cup. Or am I wrong?

NIKV69 · Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:31 pm

URU too much for Russia

Dutchy · Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:01 pm

PPVRA wrote:
Is the Kremlin implanting fake fans now? Because that guy is putting out sounds that no Brazilian could replicate that well, particularly when drunk.....

Alias1024 · Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:03 pm

Anyone other than a huge star like Ronaldo gets a red card for that elbow.

NIKV69 · Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:29 pm

Alias1024 wrote:
Anyone other than a huge star like Ronaldo gets a red card for that elbow.

Karma almost got him too. Wow Iran missed that winning goal by just a couple of feet! I wanted that to go in so bad!!!!!!!!!

scbriml · Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:50 pm

Alias1024 wrote:
Anyone other than a huge star like Ronaldo gets a red card for that elbow.

Yellow was correct call, IMHO.

Also IMHO, never a pen for Iran. Hopefully that ref won't get another game at the WC.

Alias1024 · Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:25 pm

scbriml wrote:
Alias1024 wrote:
Anyone other than a huge star like Ronaldo gets a red card for that elbow.

Yellow was correct call, IMHO.

Also IMHO, never a pen for Iran. Hopefully that ref won't get another game at the WC.

Agreed on the penalty. That didn't look like an intentional hand ball to me.

Scorpius · Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:23 am

PPVRA wrote:
Is the Kremlin implanting fake fans now? Because that guy is putting out sounds that no Brazilian could replicate that well, particularly when drunk.....

Be sure to tell him about it:
https://www.instagram.com/tomersavoia/

Dutchy · Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:30 am

Scorpius wrote:
PPVRA wrote:
Is the Kremlin implanting fake fans now? Because that guy is putting out sounds that no Brazilian could replicate that well, particularly when drunk.....

Be sure to tell him about it:
https://www.instagram.com/tomersavoia/

And how exactly did you find his Instagram account? Just doesn't add up. Ah well, doesn't really matter anyway. This is Putin's show and of course, you try to get the most of it.

JJJ · Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:45 pm

scbriml wrote:
Alias1024 wrote:
Anyone other than a huge star like Ronaldo gets a red card for that elbow.

Yellow was correct call, IMHO.

Also IMHO, never a pen for Iran. Hopefully that ref won't get another game at the WC.

The VAR ref, that is. The PK that Ronaldo went on to miss was similarly soft, though, also awarded by the VAR refs.

That Quaresma goal was an absolute screamer, though.

Scorpius · Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:58 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Scorpius wrote:
PPVRA wrote:
Is the Kremlin implanting fake fans now? Because that guy is putting out sounds that no Brazilian could replicate that well, particularly when drunk.....

Be sure to tell him about it:
https://www.instagram.com/tomersavoia/

And how exactly did you find his Instagram account? Just doesn't add up. Ah well, doesn't really matter anyway. This is Putin's show and of course, you try to get the most of it.

Bright marker values of all your statements Dutchy. I brought a link to an instagram account of a Brazilian who became a local meme in Russia at the football championship. Before then, someone said that such a Brazilian could not be. Here is a link to instagram of a real person, that Brazilian. What does Dutchy do? He doubts that I could find instagram, lol. the very moment when there is nothing to say in fact, right, Dutchy?

Scorpius · Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:07 pm

In General, today I'm going to Nizhny Novgorod, tomorrow at the stadium I will watch the match of Switzerland against Costa Rica. To be honest, I will support Costa Rica, they deserved to win

Dutchy · Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:18 pm

Scorpius wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Scorpius wrote:
Be sure to tell him about it:
https://www.instagram.com/tomersavoia/

And how exactly did you find his Instagram account? Just doesn't add up. Ah well, doesn't really matter anyway. This is Putin's show and of course, you try to get the most of it.

Bright marker values of all your statements Dutchy. I brought a link to an instagram account of a Brazilian who became a local meme in Russia at the football championship. Before then, someone said that such a Brazilian could not be. Here is a link to instagram of a real person, that Brazilian. What does Dutchy do? He doubts that I could find instagram, lol. the very moment when there is nothing to say in fact, right, Dutchy?

No it was a question, Scorpius.................

And yes, I think it is funny you post this guy here, proving exactly nothing and yet so you.....

Aeroflot777 · Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:45 pm

Dutchy, why are you the only one in this thread that returns everything back to politics? Aren't you tired of it yourself by now? There are countless threads in Non-Av where you repeatedly participate in pointing out your anti-Russian stance, continue it there, if needed.

Alias1024 · Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:54 pm

As expected, France and Denmark played a completely unremarkable 90 minutes. Looking forward to Argentina match. Either we'll see brilliance from Messi or comedy from Maradona as Argentina goes down, so no matter what us fans are the winner.

MrHMSH · Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:12 pm

Turns out we saw brilliance from Messi AND comedy from Maradona. Win win! Argentine very jammy but they scraped the win they needed, Iceland came quite close to a result against Croatia, but lost it at the end.

We have 4 confirmed knockout ties so far:

Spain vs Russia
Uruguay vs Portugal
France vs Argentina
Croatia vs Denmark

France vs Argentina at a World Cup is a rare occurrence, this is only the 3rd one. 2 teams with brilliant individual talent but are a complete mess tactically. It's going to be chaos.

Alias1024 · Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:25 pm

MrHMSH wrote:
Turns out we saw brilliance from Messi AND comedy from Maradona. Win win!

Entertaining match with some brilliant plays, some boneheaded ones (what was Mascherano thinking?), and Maradona celebrating with the middle finger! What more could we ask for? :highfive:

MrHMSH wrote:
France vs Argentina at a World Cup is a rare occurrence, this is only the 3rd one. 2 teams with brilliant individual talent but are a complete mess tactically. It's going to be chaos.

I dunno. France pulled off the tactic of 'do nothing for 90 minutes' very well today. They may be more tactically sound than we suspect. :lol:

ltbewr · Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:49 pm

At least Argentina got a stay of execution for now or having to consider asylum in Russia. I don't see them going farther.

af773atmsp · Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:01 am

I don't know if I like or hate this commentator-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koVRq1AWqNk

jetwet1 · Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:46 am

MrHMSH wrote:

France vs Argentina at a World Cup is a rare occurrence, this is only the 3rd one. 2 teams with brilliant individual talent but are a complete mess tactically. It's going to be chaos.

For once in my life I will be pulling for France, Nigeria had one job to do and they failed badly.

L410Turbolet · Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:50 am

Now that Argentina has Messi as a superstar, do they really need to drag that embarrasing cheater and drug addict along?

Olddog · Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:31 pm

France deserves to lose against Argentina. The play against was pathetic....

JJJ · Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:48 pm

L410Turbolet wrote:
Now that Argentina has Messi as a superstar, do they really need to drag that embarrasing cheater and drug addict along?

It's priceless for entertainment value.

Alias1024 · Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:56 pm

JJJ wrote:
L410Turbolet wrote:
Now that Argentina has Messi as a superstar, do they really need to drag that embarrasing cheater and drug addict along?

It's priceless for entertainment value.

^^^This^^^

I’m hoping Argentina stays around for a while. The skill level is super high and when they are playing well they are a pleasure to watch, and Maradona is like that car wreck you can’t look away from.

Thunderboltdrgn · Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:01 pm

Sweden wins with 3-0 over Mexico and Germany looses with 2-0 against South Korea. This means that Germany finishes 4th in the group and that they are out.

Dutchy · Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:07 pm

Alias1024 wrote:
JJJ wrote:
L410Turbolet wrote:
Now that Argentina has Messi as a superstar, do they really need to drag that embarrasing cheater and drug addict along?

It's priceless for entertainment value.

^^^This^^^

I’m hoping Argentina stays around for a while. The skill level is super high and when they are playing well they are a pleasure to watch, and Maradona is like that car wreck you can’t look away from.

The coach said: "only five games to win to be Wolrd Champion"

they already won one.....

After the first round the tournament is a knock out style, so even bad teams have a chance to progress on a good day.

Dutchy · Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:08 pm

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
Sweden wins with 3-0 over Mexico and Germany looses with 2-0 against South Korea. This means that Germany finishes 4th in the group and that they are out.

Still on the ground of amazement, speechless...........

af773atmsp · Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:18 pm

scbriml wrote:
Forget the rest and go with Germany. You'd be pretty much guaranteed of a team in the final.

Though I was thinking the same when you posted that.

noviorbis77 · Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:19 pm

Not that surprised. Germany look very average this tournament.

wingman · Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:22 pm

I'm simply speechless. And not just about Germany. Today says a lot about Mexico too, they knew all Germany needed was a draw and they were in danger of exiting unless they beat Sweden (I think I have that right), and they let themselves get smoked. I thought they were playing at a better level this tournament but the crucial matches are a toss up every time. The nerves in both matches looked frayed to the breaking point.

Anyway, the World Champs out in R1 and Korea takes a special victory home to their own crazed fans. My wife and son are going ballistic.

northstardc4m · Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:32 pm

So... bets on Joachim Löw being kicked out the door very shortly?

And forgive me one moment while my German blood rages...

:hissyfit:

Thank You

33lspotter · Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:33 pm

Those few of you who put money on Sweden winning the group, enjoy the payout.

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