CCGPV wrote:

cledaybuck wrote:

2122M wrote:

This is my exact point and the intended purpose of this thread. The election is long over and Trump has been proven not to be a champion for republican values. So why is he still getting very high approval ratings from republican voters?

Its like in your Ford example. sure, people bought into the "Ford Tough" slogan, but if the truck fell apart every time it hit a speed bump Ford would not enjoy an 87% client retention rate. However, GOPers seem not to care that their truck does not do what the manufacturer advertises. So what DO they care about?

They care about winning/not having a Democrat in control. That's the main thing. All the other "core values" are flexible, except making things easier on the wealthy (that's a Republican cornerstone).

Pretty much. That's the nature of politics.

And most of "the rich" you are talking about are upper middle and upper class people who pay most of the taxes (like 70% of all tax revenue). As harsh as it is most of the "inner city" and low income folks don't pay any taxes so of course they're not going to "get a break". Almost half of American's don't pay any federal income tax at all. The ones "getting the break" are paying for virtually everything already.

They also happen to vote more consistently than the lower income and younger groups so its a powerful voting block.

Mir wrote:

2122M wrote:

With those points in mind, exactly what are the values of the 87% of republicans that are causing them to support Trump?

Pwning the libs. It's all about pwning the libs. Screw the economy, screw healthcare, screw our whole system of government and the rule of law. Just pwn the libs and you'll find open arms among Republicans.

afcjets wrote:

Yet all Democrats and Liberals do is virtue signaling which helps no one. It just makes them feel good about themselves and more importantly, superior.

jetero wrote:

I tried with "What is the endgame of Republicans" thread a year ago, tried to resurrect it, don't think anything has changed.

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1364619

I think DocLightning had it best:

I'll weigh in: it appears that the only end game for the GOP is to establish a permanent GOP-dominated nation, in other words, a dictatorship in which elections will continue (for now) but those elections will have no practical effect on the balance of power in Washington. They have done this with their REDMAP progect, a policy of disenfranchisement of likely opposition voters, gerrymandering, and the use of highly biased propaganda networks (FOX and now Breitbart) posing as "news." I've been watching them at it since 1994 and it's working. Ultimately, I suspect that some elements within the Party would like to establish a state of theocratic feudalism.

I don't know if we'll be able to stop it.

KICT wrote:

afcjets wrote:

Yet all Democrats and Liberals do is virtue signaling which helps no one. It just makes them feel good about themselves and more importantly, superior.

Weird. I wouldn't be married to my husband nor allowed to serve in the military openly were it not for those so-called "virtue signals", among other things. Millions of Americans would be without healthcare were it not for those "virtue signals". Give me an effing break with this cr*p.
The GOP is a white nationalist movement now. Nothing more, nothing less.

DL717 wrote:

The endgame is anyone but the left. Not a bad thing.

2122M wrote:

DL717 wrote:

The endgame is anyone but the left. Not a bad thing.

I understand being opposed to the left, I truly do. I'm pretty liberal myself but I understand the purpose of the 2 party system and the need for dialogue and compromise. What I don't understand at the moment is this; what does the right stand for these days? Based on the right's overwhelming support of Trump, clearly they don't hold the same values that they used to (see all my posts above). So what are the core values of Trump supporters that lead them to support Trump?

DL717 wrote:

2122M wrote:

DL717 wrote:

The endgame is anyone but the left. Not a bad thing.

I understand being opposed to the left, I truly do. I'm pretty liberal myself but I understand the purpose of the 2 party system and the need for dialogue and compromise. What I don't understand at the moment is this; what does the right stand for these days? Based on the right's overwhelming support of Trump, clearly they don't hold the same values that they used to (see all my posts above). So what are the core values of Trump supporters that lead them to support Trump?

We support Trump because for the moment there are no alternatives. He might be bat shit crazy with his twitter account, but he’s getting things done and the economy is fine. Personally I don’t give a rip about social issues which the left is obsessed with. Social issues always resolve themselves. Economic issues require management.

DL717 wrote:

He might be bat shit crazy with his twitter account, but he’s getting things done and the economy is fine. Personally I don’t give a rip about social issues which the left is obsessed with. Social issues always resolve themselves. Economic issues require management.

Tugger wrote:

DL717 wrote:

He might be bat shit crazy with his twitter account, but he’s getting things done and the economy is fine. Personally I don’t give a rip about social issues which the left is obsessed with. Social issues always resolve themselves. Economic issues require management.

The economy is not fine, it is on heroin and Trump and many Republican's are purifying it and making it more lethal. Spending exactly like the Dems that many conservatives profess to detest. These issue require management but Trump is a poor president and a worse "manager" on the economy.

Basically as a Republican I am disgusted with people that prance around saying "Oh he's all we've got." Make sure you can pay your freakin' bills. That is what I was taught.

Tugg

DL717 wrote:

We support Trump because for the moment there are no alternatives. He might be bat shit crazy with his twitter account, but he’s getting things done and the economy is fine.

Tugger wrote:

DL717 wrote:

He might be bat shit crazy with his twitter account, but he’s getting things done and the economy is fine. Personally I don’t give a rip about social issues which the left is obsessed with. Social issues always resolve themselves. Economic issues require management.

The economy is not fine, it is on heroin and Trump and many Republican's are purifying it and making it more lethal. Spending exactly like the Dems that many conservatives profess to detest. These issue require management but Trump is a poor president and a worse "manager" on the economy.

Tugg

scamp wrote:

Republicans care about two things: money and sticking their noses in everyone else's personal lives. I am convinced that every one of them would sell their damn mothers if they thought they could get a good deal for her.

DL717 wrote:

Social issues always resolve themselves.

Economic issues require management.

2122M wrote:

PoliSci Bachelors and heritage aside, you are not who I'm interested in hearing from. You are not in the 87%. All you have is the theory that republican voters value blind party loyalty and don't care about traditional values and/or they don't have any values at all as long as the market is up. You can re-word it however many times as you want, that is what you are saying over and over again. It's been heard and noted.

A question for someone who voted for, and still supports Trump, is he wrong? Have republican voters followed the lead of their politicians and given up caring about family values and fiscal responsibility? If so, what do they care about instead? If not, how do you reconcile that with Trump?

DL717 wrote:

And off the deep end posts like this is why. Some of the left has gone batshit crazy with this stuff. White nationalist movement? Please. Just because someone doesn’t agree with your world view.

2122M wrote:

So I know this thread will likely go off the rails, but I am very curios to hear from republicans as to why Trump is enjoying historically high approval ratings from republicans at the moment. I'm intrigues by this because he seems to act and lead in a way that is counter to historically conservative values and this makes me wonder what the REAL values are the republicans are supporting him for.

For example, the GOP has always painted itself as the 'Family Values' party, and yet 87% of polled republicans seem to think Trump is great, despite his well know affairs, multiple marriages and of course the Access Hollywood tape.

The GOP has always tried to portray themselves as the fiscally responsible party, but there is no longer any questions that the Trump tax cuts and budget will add to the deficit and put the US into much deeper debt. analysis from both sides of the aisle have come to that conclusion, but apparently 87% of republicans don't care.

The GOP and always tried to be the party of 'American Exceptionalism' and always sold their party and the one that would be a strong world leader. but 87% of republicans don't care the Trump is withdrawing the US from the world stage at every given opportunity (TPP, Paris, Iran, Refugees, etc...).

The GOP has always been the party of the strong military,. in this regard, Trump has thrown more money at the military, but by most accounts the military was already the strongest in the world (by far) and the additional money just flies in the face of the fiscal conservatives.

With those points in mind, exactly what are the values of the 87% of republicans that are causing them to support Trump?

And to be clear, I'm not asking just so I can argue tell people they are wrong. I honestly am looking for insight here. Most conversations will likely not end in agreement or minds being changed, but hopefully there can be a few, "I understand but respectfully disagree" moments.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/pres ... trump.aspx

MikeDrop wrote:

Tugger wrote:

DL717 wrote:

He might be bat shit crazy with his twitter account, but he’s getting things done and the economy is fine. Personally I don’t give a rip about social issues which the left is obsessed with. Social issues always resolve themselves. Economic issues require management.

The economy is not fine, it is on heroin and Trump and many Republican's are purifying it and making it more lethal. Spending exactly like the Dems that many conservatives profess to detest. These issue require management but Trump is a poor president and a worse "manager" on the economy.

Tugg

Mr. Tugger, I'm going to disagree with you on your sentiment re the state of the economy. Did you see this article about Warren Buffet today? "Buffett says economy is feeling strong: 'If we're in the sixth inning, we have our sluggers coming to bat'"

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/07/buffett ... trong.html

Sounds pretty positive. The caveat in his statement that I appreciated was Mr. Buffets statement about not using the state of the economy to guide your buying of stocks. He's always been a long term guy. personally I'm investing as much as I can in long term stocks. Anyway, he sounds pretty upbeat about the economy.

Cheers,

Mike Drop

Tugger wrote:

But that will destroy the economy across the board as the military gets cut, and commercial contracts with the government get cut and people are not supported with the benefits they planned on and were promised, etc.

I would rather higher taxes and manged debt than the "joy box" of tax cut heroin that was just stuffed down our throat. The economy was and is strong enough to support that and prosper as much as it has been. Cut expenses or at least reduce spending, spend less on the military, spend less on social items, etc. but work hard to manage the budget.

Tugg

Jouhou wrote:

Whether traditional republicans are just naïve or they are doing their donors bidding I don't know, but anything involving privatizing a government function adds to wasted funds.

tommy1808 wrote:

Jouhou wrote:

Whether traditional republicans are just naïve or they are doing their donors bidding I don't know, but anything involving privatizing a government function adds to wasted funds.

We know they do it at their donors command, before the tax cuts they admitted as much. "Pass the bill or dont bitger calling again".
Amazes me how there isn't a corruption investigation when a member of congress says on national television that he is voting for a law to secure future payments from his donors....

Best regards
Thomas

Jouhou wrote:

tommy1808 wrote:

Jouhou wrote:

Whether traditional republicans are just naïve or they are doing their donors bidding I don't know, but anything involving privatizing a government function adds to wasted funds.

We know they do it at their donors command, before the tax cuts they admitted as much. "Pass the bill or dont bitger calling again".
Amazes me how there isn't a corruption investigation when a member of congress says on national television that he is voting for a law to secure future payments from his donors....

Best regards
Thomas

That's not really what I meant by traditional republicans, I meant the moderates that now get called RINOs by the extremists. The so called rinos could plausibly be naïve idealists.

DL717 wrote:

Personally I don’t give a rip about social issues which the left is obsessed with.

MaverickM11 wrote:

Jouhou wrote:

tommy1808 wrote:

We know they do it at their donors command, before the tax cuts they admitted as much. "Pass the bill or dont bitger calling again".
Amazes me how there isn't a corruption investigation when a member of congress says on national television that he is voting for a law to secure future payments from his donors....

Best regards
Thomas

That's not really what I meant by traditional republicans, I meant the moderates that now get called RINOs by the extremists. The so called rinos could plausibly be naïve idealists.

Meh..."RINOs" and "elites" are just interchangeable and don't have any definition beyond "enemy". In what other world are endless Goldman Sachs billionaires who did everything Trump accused them of doing on the campaign trail--but then appointed them to his cabinet--not elites?

Jouhou wrote:

MaverickM11 wrote:

Jouhou wrote:

That's not really what I meant by traditional republicans, I meant the moderates that now get called RINOs by the extremists. The so called rinos could plausibly be naïve idealists.

Meh..."RINOs" and "elites" are just interchangeable and don't have any definition beyond "enemy". In what other world are endless Goldman Sachs billionaires who did everything Trump accused them of doing on the campaign trail--but then appointed them to his cabinet--not elites?

Yeah, well trump was only ever a "populist" in name only. As I've mentioned before, I just don't understand how he duped so many people into thinking he stood up for the common man, and 40% of the country is still allowing themselves to be duped. It's so. Blatant. Have they no self respect? Do they not have eyes? Ears? Are they just gullible?

MaverickM11 wrote:

Jouhou wrote:

tommy1808 wrote:

We know they do it at their donors command, before the tax cuts they admitted as much. "Pass the bill or dont bitger calling again".
Amazes me how there isn't a corruption investigation when a member of congress says on national television that he is voting for a law to secure future payments from his donors....

Best regards
Thomas

That's not really what I meant by traditional republicans, I meant the moderates that now get called RINOs by the extremists. The so called rinos could plausibly be naïve idealists.

Meh..."RINOs" and "elites" are just interchangeable and don't have any definition beyond "enemy". In what other world are endless Goldman Sachs billionaires who did everything Trump accused them of doing on the campaign trail--but then appointed them to his cabinet--not elites?

DL717 wrote:

Personally I don’t give a rip about social issues which the left is obsessed with.

Gee I can't imagine why

seb146 wrote:

There were plenty of alternatives leading up to November 2016

cledaybuck wrote:

The thing is, in 2010, when the Tea Party was trying to take over the Republican Party, Trump would have been a RINO. Now his values appear to be the party's values. I guess that is the who point of this thread in the first place.

Tugger wrote:

cledaybuck wrote:

The thing is, in 2010, when the Tea Party was trying to take over the Republican Party, Trump would have been a RINO. Now his values appear to be the party's values. I guess that is the who point of this thread in the first place.

Trump is a RINO, just a different kind. I have come to calling his kind of "Republican" a MAGA. So not Republican but rather a desperate plea to "be great again" and scared of losing and most importantly, loving to get a rise out of others over things (not solve anything).

Tugg

cledaybuck wrote:

Tugger wrote:

cledaybuck wrote:

The thing is, in 2010, when the Tea Party was trying to take over the Republican Party, Trump would have been a RINO. Now his values appear to be the party's values. I guess that is the who point of this thread in the first place.

Trump is a RINO, just a different kind. I have come to calling his kind of "Republican" a MAGA. So not Republican but rather a desperate plea to "be great again" and scared of losing and most importantly, loving to get a rise out of others over things (not solve anything).

Tugg

True, but that is not a RINO anymore, that is the Republican brand.

NIKV69 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

There were plenty of alternatives leading up to November 2016

Yes but Hillary forced one not to run in the primary and had Debbie Wasserman-Schultz rig the primary so the other couldn't win. Just sayin.

seb146 wrote:

So, you are blaming Republicans not picking a good or great candidate on Hillary? Well, I would expect no less.....

NIKV69 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

So, you are blaming Republicans not picking a good or great candidate on Hillary? Well, I would expect no less.....

As I would expect you to deflect from the fact the DNC took a winnable election with Biden and handed it to Trump all for some entitled woman who felt she was owed it.

Election night must still sting huh?

2122M wrote:

So I know this thread will likely go off the rails, but I am very curios to hear from republicans as to why Trump is enjoying historically high approval ratings from republicans at the moment.

Caryjack wrote:

2122M wrote:

So I know this thread will likely go off the rails, but I am very curios to hear from republicans as to why Trump is enjoying historically high approval ratings from republicans at the moment.

His high aproval ratings are high, not just at this moment.

From the top:
He believes that hard work will lead to life long rewards. Education and training are imperative. He is a family man and adores his wife and children. Trump's word is his bond. If you slander him, you will pay.

Well known affaires? The incident I know of is a porn star that accused him of such: Trump denies it. I don't know about his divorce(s) nor have any dates, nor are they uncommon in the US.

Access Hollywood tapes? As I recall he said that when you're rich and famous, they let you grab their pussy: or words to that effect. Not sure where you've been but on 4 contents I've run into women who would do the same.

Fiscal responsibility is a key republican value, and for that reason Trump cut taxes. Every tax cut passed by every president resulted in more revenue for the government. Kennedy did it, Reagan did it and Trump did it. Simply stated, tax cuts put more money in the hands of the people who can use it best. It always works and, in a free economy, always will. Things go bad when politicians spend the increased tax revenue faster than it comes in.

America is exceptional; there is no other like it. Nobody in America wants off the world. Many agreements created by the previous administration were just bad. The TPP put a huge burden on the US for no gain. By Paris do you mean global warming? If so it's a fraud. Everyone knows that the climate changes: it always has and always will. By Iran do you mean the nuke deal? The previous administration paid billions in cash ($, Euros & Swiss Franks) delivered by an unmarked biz jet to Teheran in the dark of night, a truly disgusting affair.
Refuges to the US come across the US southern border. This is a violation of UN treaties that says that immigrants must be accepted by the first safe country in which they arrive, Mexico in this case. The Mexicans argue that Mexico is not safe so these immigrants must be transported though Mexico to be dumped on the US border.

You are right about the US military: nobody else is even close. The US has 10 or so reinforced carrier groups (USN, USMC, MSC), any one of which could destroy most countries. Then add the US Army & Air force.

Throwing money away? Such a force requires expensive maintenance and training. Three presidents; Carter, Clinton and Obama cut those expenses. Just to be clear: In US government speak, a reduction in spending means spending less than the requested amount (if 10 billion is requested and 5 is proposed, you've slashed to the bone). Those guys reduced budgets below the then existing level which resulted in a dysfunctional military. There have been many publicized examples such as ships and airplanes crashing or not deployable.

seb146 wrote:

No deflection. She was as qualified as Biden but Biden did not want to run. You all can't face the fact that, in back-to-back elections, a black man and a woman were more popular and more qualified than the candidate your party put forward.

The deflection, sir, comes from you. There were plenty of qualified and respected Republican candidates but this was what your party felt was the best. Racist, egomanical, womanizing, liar to represent your party.

bagoldex wrote:

Caryjack wrote:

2122M wrote:

So I know this thread will likely go off the rails, but I am very curios to hear from republicans as to why Trump is enjoying historically high approval ratings from republicans at the moment.

His high aproval ratings are high, not just at this moment.

From the top:
He believes that hard work will lead to life long rewards. Education and training are imperative. He is a family man and adores his wife and children. Trump's word is his bond. If you slander him, you will pay.

Well known affaires? The incident I know of is a porn star that accused him of such: Trump denies it. I don't know about his divorce(s) nor have any dates, nor are they uncommon in the US.

Access Hollywood tapes? As I recall he said that when you're rich and famous, they let you grab their pussy: or words to that effect. Not sure where you've been but on 4 contents I've run into women who would do the same.

Fiscal responsibility is a key republican value, and for that reason Trump cut taxes. Every tax cut passed by every president resulted in more revenue for the government. Kennedy did it, Reagan did it and Trump did it. Simply stated, tax cuts put more money in the hands of the people who can use it best. It always works and, in a free economy, always will. Things go bad when politicians spend the increased tax revenue faster than it comes in.

America is exceptional; there is no other like it. Nobody in America wants off the world. Many agreements created by the previous administration were just bad. The TPP put a huge burden on the US for no gain. By Paris do you mean global warming? If so it's a fraud. Everyone knows that the climate changes: it always has and always will. By Iran do you mean the nuke deal? The previous administration paid billions in cash ($, Euros & Swiss Franks) delivered by an unmarked biz jet to Teheran in the dark of night, a truly disgusting affair.
Refuges to the US come across the US southern border. This is a violation of UN treaties that says that immigrants must be accepted by the first safe country in which they arrive, Mexico in this case. The Mexicans argue that Mexico is not safe so these immigrants must be transported though Mexico to be dumped on the US border.

You are right about the US military: nobody else is even close. The US has 10 or so reinforced carrier groups (USN, USMC, MSC), any one of which could destroy most countries. Then add the US Army & Air force.

Throwing money away? Such a force requires expensive maintenance and training. Three presidents; Carter, Clinton and Obama cut those expenses. Just to be clear: In US government speak, a reduction in spending means spending less than the requested amount (if 10 billion is requested and 5 is proposed, you've slashed to the bone). Those guys reduced budgets below the then existing level which resulted in a dysfunctional military. There have been many publicized examples such as ships and airplanes crashing or not deployable.

There's a sucker born every minute.

Tugger wrote:

bagoldex wrote:

Caryjack wrote:

His high aproval ratings are high, not just at this moment.

From the top:
He believes that hard work will lead to life long rewards. Education and training are imperative. He is a family man and adores his wife and children. Trump's word is his bond. If you slander him, you will pay.

Well known affaires? The incident I know of is a porn star that accused him of such: Trump denies it. I don't know about his divorce(s) nor have any dates, nor are they uncommon in the US.

Access Hollywood tapes? As I recall he said that when you're rich and famous, they let you grab their pussy: or words to that effect. Not sure where you've been but on 4 contents I've run into women who would do the same.

Fiscal responsibility is a key republican value, and for that reason Trump cut taxes. Every tax cut passed by every president resulted in more revenue for the government. Kennedy did it, Reagan did it and Trump did it. Simply stated, tax cuts put more money in the hands of the people who can use it best. It always works and, in a free economy, always will. Things go bad when politicians spend the increased tax revenue faster than it comes in.

America is exceptional; there is no other like it. Nobody in America wants off the world. Many agreements created by the previous administration were just bad. The TPP put a huge burden on the US for no gain. By Paris do you mean global warming? If so it's a fraud. Everyone knows that the climate changes: it always has and always will. By Iran do you mean the nuke deal? The previous administration paid billions in cash ($, Euros & Swiss Franks) delivered by an unmarked biz jet to Teheran in the dark of night, a truly disgusting affair.
Refuges to the US come across the US southern border. This is a violation of UN treaties that says that immigrants must be accepted by the first safe country in which they arrive, Mexico in this case. The Mexicans argue that Mexico is not safe so these immigrants must be transported though Mexico to be dumped on the US border.

You are right about the US military: nobody else is even close. The US has 10 or so reinforced carrier groups (USN, USMC, MSC), any one of which could destroy most countries. Then add the US Army & Air force.

Throwing money away? Such a force requires expensive maintenance and training. Three presidents; Carter, Clinton and Obama cut those expenses. Just to be clear: In US government speak, a reduction in spending means spending less than the requested amount (if 10 billion is requested and 5 is proposed, you've slashed to the bone). Those guys reduced budgets below the then existing level which resulted in a dysfunctional military. There have been many publicized examples such as ships and airplanes crashing or not deployable.

There's a sucker born every minute.

Sucker? I was reading excuses.. but guess sucker works just as well. Remember a key goal and need for MAGA's is to get a rise out of people.

Tugg

NIKV69 wrote:

seb146 wrote:

No deflection. She was as qualified as Biden but Biden did not want to run. You all can't face the fact that, in back-to-back elections, a black man and a woman were more popular and more qualified than the candidate your party put forward.

The deflection, sir, comes from you. There were plenty of qualified and respected Republican candidates but this was what your party felt was the best. Racist, egomanical, womanizing, liar to represent your party.

Who says who is qualified? That is the most nonsense I have ever heard. Biden wanted to run and he was much more likable than Hillary and would be in the white house right now if the Democratic party didn't cater to elitists which is why it is stuck in a rut and won't change.

You can keep throwing all the fear mongering terms out there. It's what you are famous for, it is also why the country rejected your doctrine and your candidate.

Keep it up it will make the midterms more entertaining than the general.

Caryjack wrote:

2122M wrote:

So I know this thread will likely go off the rails, but I am very curios to hear from republicans as to why Trump is enjoying historically high approval ratings from republicans at the moment.

His high aproval ratings are high, not just at this moment.

From the top:
He believes that hard work will lead to life long rewards. Education and training are imperative. He is a family man and adores his wife and children. Trump's word is his bond. If you slander him, you will pay.

Well known affaires? The incident I know of is a porn star that accused him of such: Trump denies it. I don't know about his divorce(s) nor have any dates, nor are they uncommon in the US.

Access Hollywood tapes? As I recall he said that when you're rich and famous, they let you grab their pussy: or words to that effect. Not sure where you've been but on 4 contents I've run into women who would do the same.

Fiscal responsibility is a key republican value, and for that reason Trump cut taxes. Every tax cut passed by every president resulted in more revenue for the government. Kennedy did it, Reagan did it and Trump did it. Simply stated, tax cuts put more money in the hands of the people who can use it best. It always works and, in a free economy, always will. Things go bad when politicians spend the increased tax revenue faster than it comes in.

America is exceptional; there is no other like it. Nobody in America wants off the world. Many agreements created by the previous administration were just bad. The TPP put a huge burden on the US for no gain. By Paris do you mean global warming? If so it's a fraud. Everyone knows that the climate changes: it always has and always will. By Iran do you mean the nuke deal? The previous administration paid billions in cash ($, Euros & Swiss Franks) delivered by an unmarked biz jet to Teheran in the dark of night, a truly disgusting affair.
Refuges to the US come across the US southern border. This is a violation of UN treaties that says that immigrants must be accepted by the first safe country in which they arrive, Mexico in this case. The Mexicans argue that Mexico is not safe so these immigrants must be transported though Mexico to be dumped on the US border.

You are right about the US military: nobody else is even close. The US has 10 or so reinforced carrier groups (USN, USMC, MSC), any one of which could destroy most countries. Then add the US Army & Air force.

Throwing money away? Such a force requires expensive maintenance and training. Three presidents; Carter, Clinton and Obama cut those expenses. Just to be clear: In US government speak, a reduction in spending means spending less than the requested amount (if 10 billion is requested and 5 is proposed, you've slashed to the bone). Those guys reduced budgets below the then existing level which resulted in a dysfunctional military. There have been many publicized examples such as ships and airplanes crashing or not deployable.

afcjets wrote:

I am not affiliated with any political party but have been a Trump supporter from the beginning. I saw this on CNN yesterday (during a Fox commercial break of course )

"I think that Republicans have said basically in the past we nominated Boy Scouts like (Mitt) Romney, people who were squeaky clean, and the left launched such attacks on these people that they ended up looking like Lucifer," D'Souza said. "We're finally going to appoint a tough guy who can take it and can return a punch."

NIKV69 wrote:

You can keep throwing all the fear mongering terms out there. It's what you are famous for, it is also why the country rejected your doctrine and your candidate. .

afcjets wrote:

Not crying here, I am ECSTATIC Donald Trump is President. I would much rather be in Trump's first term than Romney's second term, especially since Trump has or is reversing most of the damage Obama did.

LMP737 wrote:

afcjets wrote:

I am not affiliated with any political party but have been a Trump supporter from the beginning. I saw this on CNN yesterday (during a Fox commercial break of course )

"I think that Republicans have said basically in the past we nominated Boy Scouts like (Mitt) Romney, people who were squeaky clean, and the left launched such attacks on these people that they ended up looking like Lucifer," D'Souza said. "We're finally going to appoint a tough guy who can take it and can return a punch."

Oh boo hoo. And what did the right do with Obama. Play to peoples ignorance and hate is what. Unfortunately for them it didn't work out.

Caryjack wrote:

Trump's word is his bond.

Well known affaires? The incident I know of is a porn star that accused him of such: Trump denies it.

Access Hollywood tapes? As I recall he said that when you're rich and famous, they let you grab their pussy: or words to that effect. Not sure where you've been but on 4 contents I've run into women who would do the same.

Fiscal responsibility is a key republican value, and for that reason Trump cut taxes. Every tax cut passed by every president resulted in more revenue for the government.

America is exceptional;

The previous administration paid billions in cash ($, Euros & Swiss Franks) delivered by an unmarked biz jet to Teheran in the dark of night, a truly disgusting affair.

Refuges to the US come across the US southern border. This is a violation of UN treaties that says that immigrants must be accepted by the first safe country in which they arrive, .

LockheedBBD wrote:

"True Republicans for Dummies":

1) Shout out "libtard", "snowflake", "pepe", "kek", "commie", "socialist", "cuck", "Soros", MAGA", "#winning", "play stupid games, win stupid prizes", online.
2) Repost quotes from Trump's Twitter page.
3) Repeat step 1-2.


"Liberals for Dummies":

1) Post obligatory Trump gif: