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Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Sat May 12, 2018 11:00 am

Sorry, it's Germish:

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/ostschweiz/ ... a-26696008

On Thursday, a man traveled to ZRH on a Turkish Airlines flight. He began to pray loudly, saying allahu akbar, and then he was subdued by FAs and passengers.

Police took him off the plane, he was brought to a hospital because he lost consciousness from time to time. Afterwards, he was set free because he wasn't deemed dangerous, and because there was no arrest warrant for his person.

On Friday, he met an immigrant woman in a hotel in the state of St. Gallen, quarreled with her, and then died of his own wounds. The woman was brought to a hospital with very serious wounds to her eyes.


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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Sat May 12, 2018 12:44 pm

What a strange story. I wonder if this guy was a few clowns short of a circus.
 
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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Sat May 12, 2018 1:04 pm

flyingturtle wrote:
Sorry, it's Germish:
and then died of his own wounds.

Sorry where did the wound come from? You mean he committed suicide? Or the injury sustained during the process of being subdued? If the former this probably shouldn't be in the civil aviation forum?
 
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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Sat May 12, 2018 1:50 pm

Excerpts from the article (machine-translated, but I've done a bit of a clean-up):

20min.ch wrote:
After a relationship offense in the Lintharena sports center in Näfels (Glarus) a man died on the spot. A woman was brought with serious injuries by Rega [Swiss Air-Rescue] to the University Hospital of Zurich, according to a statement by the Glarus cantonal police.
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A reader reporter of 20 minutes has witnessed the large-scale deployment on site. The Lintharena had been completely sealed off - the relationship drama took place in the associated hotel, the reader said.
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The woman suffered severe eye injuries and bruises and was flown by helicopter to the University Hospital Zurich.
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The man lost consciousness but was resuscitated until an ambulance team arrived. Nevertheless, he died on the spot. He may have been under the influence of drugs, the police wrote, quoting unspecified sources of information.
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Only on Thursday the man had traveled from Istanbul to Zurich. As the Glarus cantonal police confirm, the deceased was the conspicuous passenger on a Turkish Airlines flight as reported by 20 Minutes on Friday. According to a reader, the man wanted to force fellow travellers to eat yoghurt, and shouted "Allahu Akbar" . The crew and passengers overwhelmed him and he was taken away by police in Zurich. As Werner Schaub [spokesman, Zurich cantonal police] said on Friday, he had not been arrested but was instead taken to the hospital.
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It goes on to say that the police in Glarus are treating it as an incidence of domestic violence unrelated to the TK flight, though I would not be surprised to see a psychiatric issue link the two. Nevertheless, the relation to aviation as far as is for discussion in this forum seems to be little more than that a passenger caused a disturbance on a TK flight from IST to ZRH and was restrained before being removed by police at ZRH.
 
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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Sat May 12, 2018 2:08 pm

Someone saying Allahu Akbar on a Turkish airliner is the least remarkable part of this story.
 
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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Sat May 12, 2018 2:56 pm

NameOmitted wrote:
Someone saying Allahu Akbar on a Turkish airliner is the least remarkable part of this story.


Amen to that!
 
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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Sat May 12, 2018 3:23 pm

What in the world?
 
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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Sat May 12, 2018 4:48 pm

Well not really related, but I saw last year in Cairo at the check-in area, some guy shouting loud as hell repeatedly "allahu Akbar". And over there, it's perfectly fine, the man was praising Allah very loud because he felt like it. It did make a thought or two cross my mind. Try doing that somewhere in a "western" country airport.
 
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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Sat May 12, 2018 4:55 pm

Very strange story.
 
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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Sat May 12, 2018 8:05 pm

Cerecl wrote:
flyingturtle wrote:
Sorry, it's Germish:
and then died of his own wounds.

Sorry where did the wound come from? You mean he committed suicide? Or the injury sustained during the process of being subdued? If the former this probably shouldn't be in the civil aviation forum?


Some follow up articles mention that he didn't have any external wounds, that he lost consciousness, similar to what happened after he was met by police at ZRH at the conclusion of the TK flight. Articles further mention that he had residency in California, and that the later victim and him checked into the same room earlier that day before an argument ensured. She started screaming for help and staff rushed to her aid. She is said to have extremely bad eye injuries. It's completely unclear how he died or why he (apparently more than once) lost conscientiousness and subsequently died. Several articles mention that he wasn't seen as a further threat after the TK incident. One would think that a drug check could have helped the follow up risk to his girlfriend, a Swiss naturalized citizen.

http://www.blick.ch/ein-mann-tot-eine-f ... 67927.html
 
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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Sat May 12, 2018 9:28 pm

Well I gotta say I'm curious to find out "the rest of the story."
 
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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Sat May 12, 2018 9:38 pm

Wait, this happened on Turkish Airlines?! Then again, Turkey is quite secular and many people are either Atheists or non-practicing. So, I can understand why this may have happened.
 
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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Sun May 13, 2018 8:59 am

Seriously this whole story seems like something you'd come up with on 8th grade it's so ridiculous
 
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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:38 pm

"20 Minuten" now reports that the man has died of acute heart failure, caused by extreme levels of stress hormones. He was not intoxicated in any way.

On the flight, he also told passengers to eat yoghurt.

Seems more and more like mental illness now.

The victim was able to leave the hospital in the meantime.


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Re: Allahu Akbar on a TK flight, and a sad end

Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:54 am

flydude380 wrote:
Wait, this happened on Turkish Airlines?! Then again, Turkey is quite secular and many people are either Atheists or non-practicing. So, I can understand why this may have happened.


I think you meant to say Turkey was quite secular, it’s not anymore, Ataturk wouldn’t be happy with the current state of secularism in Turkey.

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