2122M wrote:slider wrote:2122M wrote:
NO ONE IS TRYING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS!
Level-headed people everywhere want access to guns limited to those qualified to use them, those that are mentally healthy and those that are willing to register and insure their guns. Most people can make sense of a ban on gun and gun accessories that are not necessary for the purposes of self defense or sport. But with all that said, I'll reiterate:
NO ONE IS TRYING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS!
You're wrong. And unlike the other lies that get repeated, the more you say that will NOT make pro Second Amendment folks sleep better. There is ABSOLUTELY a huge cross-section of the leftists that do in fact want to confiscate all guns. They've said as much. The boy of the hour David Hogg has said as much, manipulated by his puppet masters as the useful idiot that he is.
I'm not debating you on this unless you can point to any proposed legislation or even quote from en elected democrat or anyone close to the law making process that indicates there is a total and complete gun ban on the table.
As far as David Hogg goes, here's a quote from him (spoiler alert, he's never said he's in favor of a total gun confiscation):
"What a lot of the media and especially Fox News has messed up with me is they’ve made it seem like I’m trying to take away people’s guns, that I’m against the Second Amendment. My father is a retired FBI agent. I have guns in my house. I’m not against the Second Amendment… I’m trying to push for common sense gun reform and mental illness reform so we can make sure that these individuals that have a criminal background that are mentally unstable and have a history of domestic violence are no longer able to get a gun…"
Let’s just start here, shall we?? Plenty more where this came from. But stomping your foot isn’t going to make the demonic activity of the left go away. Quite the contrary, the populace is quite animated toward resistance.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/opin ... dment.html
Former SCOTUS justice John Paul Stevens is calling for a repeal of 2A…truly chilling.
A Democrat NC Sheriff candidate suggests killing people who won’t turn in their weapons.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa ... n-n2454670
Democrat US Rep David Ciclline (RI) is proposing legislation to ban the sale of semi-automatic weapons. 156 of 193 House Dems back it.
http://menrec.com/here-we-go-ny-governo ... an-option/
NY Gov Cuomo: “Confiscation could be an option,” Cuomo opined. “Mandatory sale to the state could be an option.”
http://menrec.com/upstate-mayor-bloombe ... -citizens/
Michael Bloomberg’s gun control organization MAIG (Mayors Against Illegal Guns) “intended to promote confiscation of guns from law-abiding citizens.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/surv ... n-all-guns
82% of Democrats want to ban semi-auto weapons, and are almost evenly split 39/41 on banning ALL weapons.
http://menrec.com/confiscate-confiscate ... ly-insane/
NJ State Senator claimed they “needed a bill that was going to confiscate, confiscate, confiscate.”
https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2018/03/1 ... -firearms/
Illinois, long run by Democrats, is putting the foot on the gas with an (unconstitutional) bill that requires anyone under 21 to turn in their weapons.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04- ... -or-become
Also in the loony state of IL, the town of Deerfield passed an ordnance (also grossly unconstitutional, being an ex post facto law) that demands for guns to be turned in, including semi-automatic handguns and fines people for non-compliance. It’s laughable, but we’re not laughing anymore when these fascists involuntarily circumvent constitutional rights. This is from last week, in fact.
Beyond the most recent act by the Deerfield morons, there are at least 6 recent instances where guns HAVE been confiscated by order of the Democrats.
*California 1989 passed the Roberti-Roos law that require mandatory registration of certain named "assault weapons." Possession prior to June 1, 1989 and registration prior to March 30, 1992 was grandfathered. January 1, 2000, California passed SB 23 ordering holders of one such rifle, the SKS Sporter, to be turned in to the state. Or be charged with a felony. Gun confiscation example 1.
*New York City passed a gun registration ordinance for shotgun and rifles in 1967. NYC in 1991 banned the private possession of some semi-automatic rifles and shotguns and ‘registered’ owners had to turn them in or go to prison. Gun confiscation example 2.
* New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin ordered the confiscation of all guns in 2005. Sent his cops house to house, disarming people trying to protect their homes after Katrina. Gun confiscation example 3. Without search warrants.
*Chicago passed gun registration in 1968. In 1982, Mayor Byrne closed registration of new handguns, banning residents from owning handguns and requiring re-registration of grandfathered handguns. Gun confiscation example 4. This was the gun ban overturned in McDonald.
*Shortly after Hawaii legalized medical marijuana in 2017, Honolulu police ordered all registered medical marijuana users to turn in their firearms as use of medical marijuana disqualifies them from owning a firearm for life. Example 5.
*California is now confiscating firearms from households of people "adjudicated" and mentally ill by ex parte proceedings, even if other members of the household is legally allowed to own firearms. Example 6. This is a due process violation.
These 6 examples required either gun registration lists, being on a medical marijuna registration list, or a house to house search to confiscate guns. The New Orleans confiscation was a rather small localized operation that, frankly, took gun owners around the country by surprise - nobody thought that anybody would try it. Such gun registries serve only one purpose—to confiscate guns at a later time.
Former NY US Rep Steve Israel claims wild conspiracy theories about the NRA and thinks we’d be better off without any weapons.
http://menrec.com/one-gun-with-one-bull ... amendment/
Democrat NY State Assemblyman Tom Abinanti said he was “tired of hearing about legal, lawful gun owners” and suggested laws could make “none of these guns at all” legal in the future. He added that most gun owners should be content having “one gun with one bullet.”
http://menrec.com/democrat-please-dont- ... cate-guns/
More NY Dem pols clamoring for outright confiscation.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2017/ ... story.html
Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in favor of a COMPULSORY gun “buyback” program similar to Australia. Consequently, wlaking bag of meat Matt Damon (who ironically, has made millions shooting weapons in movies, said we ought to confiscate weapons all in "one fell swoop." Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi later used that IDENTICAL verbiage in talking points.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/fmr-obama- ... australia/
Obama advisor Dan Pfeiffer endorsing gun confiscation. Said the Second Amendment does not actually protect an individual's right to own a gun.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/p ... -americans
Obama mentor Frank Ayers, a terrorist in his own right, has long demanded total gun confiscation. Not to put too fine a point on it, but he also thinks 25M plus Americans must die in order to get his way with his loony fascist fantasies and “re-educate” the rest.
CA Crackpot Sen Diane Feinstein: "If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!"
Barack Obama: “I don’t believe people should to be able to own guns.” During conversation with economist and author John Lott Jr. at the University of Chicago Law School in the 1990s
David Hogg, that little Tide Pod eating child, has said the NRA are child murderers and that all guns should be melted down.
Firearms confiscation is about extending government power, period. And it always has been. It’s not about safety, it’s not the red herring of protecting “children” at all. It’s about squelching political dissent, growing the authority and power of government and they will stop at nothing in their pursuit of the usurpation of individual liberty. It’s happened time and time again yet we don’t learn from history. Caesar, Nero, King John, King George, Napoleon, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho, etc. Now Venezuela with Crazy Uncle Hugo confiscating weapons. And don’t forget only a year after the Bolsheviks took power in Russia in 1917, they confiscated all arms. The government had a license to kill and it used it. Mao Tse Tung said, "All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party."
And of course, we all know Hitler’s famous verses about gun ownership. The Nazis had a gun registry and they came for them starting on Kristallnacht. Enemies of the state had their guns taken away, but not party loyalists and minions. And the last movie that I saw where only the police and army had firearms was "Schindler's List.”