Scorpius wrote:discussing drawing nuclear blow to Russia without official Declaration of war, secretly that didn't track down.
tommy1808 wrote:Russia conducted a WMD attack on the UK without declaration of war, that is:
essentially terrorism in its worst form.
The rich irony of complaining about a rogue nation launching a WMD attack, without first going through the proper procedure of declaring war, is just totally lost on these guys. I bet when they look in the mirror, they see a stunning blonde instead of the bald reality.
Is it just me, or is there a certain similarity with these Kids from the Kremlin™. As soon as there is talk of potential retaliation with one nuke, it brings out their total war mentality. Their eyes positively light up in anticipation of all-out Armageddon.
"we will hunt you down and sink your little island...." <yawn>
And then Scorpius introduces two dream scenarios.
1. "a single launch of ICBMs in Russia or, in the US, will not bring results, as missile DEFENSE systems are able to intercept a single ICBM."
Yep, and the US have a similar system called Patriot. Do you recall Bush's fantastic claims for it's success rate?
Personally, I would launch one nuke, along with six or seven dummy missiles that would fragment into dozens on re-entry. And if I can think of that as a plan, I'm betting even the dimwits in the Royal Navy can come up with it too. Either that or I'm a fecking genius.
2."the launch area will be tracked by the OSR system immediately at the time of launch, and an anti-submarine group will go there, which is likely to hunt down and destroy the submarine from which the launch was made"
I know this is a.net and generally speaking our expertise is aviation (well, for some of us...) but Scorpius has some very strange ideas about Russian Navy capabilities.
By the time a Navy task force has been assembled and steamed 6000 km towards a launch location, the launch vessel will have also steamed around 6000km in a different direction. It isn't going to just sit there nicely waiting to be found. Except in his dreams.
Besides; Russia may not be able to send a task force to the launch location, if it turns out to be in somebody else's backyard. Personally I'd choose a launch location about 25 miles outside of San Diego. Or maybe the South China Sea. There I go with my genius ideas again.... Good luck sending the Russian Navy to either of those!
.... all carriers of nuclear charges in the world are constantly monitored.
Satellite monitoring - of submarines
Patrols of anti-submarine aircraft - the Il-38 is one of my favourite a/c, but let's be honest - the Russian AF/Navy can only cover approximately 0.001% of global waters from Russian bases.
Hydroacoustic tracking - great for maintaining contact with a known source, at a cost. And great for defending a home base, like the approaches to Vladivostock harbor. But out in the open ocean? If you are lucky you might pick up a submarine. If you are unlucky you will pick up two submarines. Which one are they going to depth-charge now? Obviously it must be the one where you can hear the crew in the background, celebrating launching a nuke by singing rude naval songs. Yeah, that sounds right.
In reality, it will be even more difficult than proving the origin of a random attack with novichok.
As I recall, anrec80's solution would be for the Russians to gather evidence, and make a case by asking the British to nicely co-operate with the Russian investigation. Once the British have pointed out which of their submarines launched the nuke, the Russians would then have to pursue justice through the British legal system with a trial in a British court.
Sounds quite ludicrous now doesn't it?