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casinterest wrote:I feel old now. I was in middle school when it came down.
salttee wrote:Stalinist communism and socialism are two different things.
I feel so very sorry for you because you think your taxes are too high.
Poor pitiful you.
Dahlgardo wrote:God riddance...
Perhaps they should have kept it there as a monument of the pathological ideology of Marxism.
Young people don't learn enough about the historic horrors of marxism/collectivism.
Today many young kids even think socialism is cool.
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It's disgracefull and shows the extreme lack of education and historic awareness.
If you thought nazism was bad, go have a look hove many people died because of marxism.
Dahlgardo wrote:God riddance...
Perhaps they should have kept it there as a monument of the pathological ideology of Marxism.
Young people don't learn enough about the historic horrors of marxism/collectivism.
Dahlgardo wrote:If you thought nazism was bad, go have a look how many people died because of marxism.
tommy1808 wrote:It has never been tried and hence never killed anyone.
Stalinism has as much to do with marxism as social darwinism with Darwins theory.
Marxism requires democracy as the first step, none of the so called communist nations was democratic.
The first two chapters of the communist manifesto are a perfect description of today's USA. Marx and Engels have been pretty clairvoyant. Class struggle is a pretty good match for what is going on.
Dahlgardo wrote:Oh, the usual "that was not real marxism" argument.
Fact of the matter is, that all systems that have spawned from marxist doctrine, have become murderous, oppresive, totalitarian and economical failed systems.
Anyone failing to realize the pathology in these doctrins is beyond ignorant. History does not lie.
All states that have based their societies on collectivisic ideologies have failed miserably.
Perhaps one day you will realize how lucky you are to live in a society that repect the individual.
Dutchy wrote:One of the defining points in history.
casinterest wrote:I feel old now. I was in middle school when it came down.
Dahlgardo wrote:If you thought nazism was bad, go have a look how many people died because of marxism.
c933103 wrote:In other words... the two Korea have already been separated for more than double the time Germany was separated. The reunification of Germany was already hard enough and if it ever happens to Korea then that would be far more challenging.
Dutchy wrote:c933103 wrote:In other words... the two Korea have already been separated for more than double the time Germany was separated. The reunification of Germany was already hard enough and if it ever happens to Korea then that would be far more challenging.
I agree that a reunification of Korea will be very hard, geopolitical, social and economically.
casinterest wrote:I feel old now. I was in middle school when it came down.
tommy1808 wrote:Dutchy wrote:c933103 wrote:In other words... the two Korea have already been separated for more than double the time Germany was separated. The reunification of Germany was already hard enough and if it ever happens to Korea then that would be far more challenging.
I agree that a reunification of Korea will be very hard, geopolitical, social and economically.
To throw in a number.... the reunification cost about two trillion Euro, i.e. 100% of Germany''s current national debt.
Best regards
Thomas
SOBHI51 wrote:casinterest wrote:I feel old now. I was in middle school when it came down.
What should i say then? I was in middle school when it went UP.
Dutchy wrote:tommy1808 wrote:Dutchy wrote:
I agree that a reunification of Korea will be very hard, geopolitical, social and economically.
To throw in a number.... the reunification cost about two trillion Euro, i.e. 100% of Germany''s current national debt.
Best regards
Thomas
Will probably cost way more in Korea. One way or another it will have to be invested in North Korea to bring them up to speed, when (not if) the regime fails. On the other hand, it is economic activity, so will boost Korea's GDP.
falstaff wrote:I don't think you can compare the DDR and the DPRK. The DDR had the highest standard of living in the Eastern Bloc. The citizens of the DDR were well educated. If I recall my middle school social studies class I think the DDR and USSR had a higher literacy level then the USA did. I know that certainly isn't the case in the DPRK. The citizens of the DDR didn't believe their leader was God like and they weren't isolated from the rest of the world in every aspect of life. Sure they were kept in the dark about many things, but nobody was told that Erich Honecker was the best golfer on the planet. They didn't tell people that Walter Ulbricht's birthday was celebrated across the world.
c933103 wrote:Or maybe that won't happen as that would certainly impact the political balance in South Korea and also impact things like how Korean passport are treated around the world so it is also very possible for things like border check and different citizenship systems to remain in place for at least some years even after unification are to occur.