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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Fri May 04, 2018 10:11 am

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Oh dear. So NI border didn't work. Project fear didn't work. Russian hackers didn't work. Cambridge Analytica line was shot down before it even got going. Flights 'stopping' hasn't work. Chucka's horror show of an alliance won't go anywhere. There will be no second referendum. There will be no vote on the deal.

Has the penny (or should I say eurocent) finally dropped?
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Fri May 04, 2018 10:20 am

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meanwhile, there are not enough democratically elected MP's to agree on a hard Brexit, a customs union could pass through government by our elected MP's unless the PM comes up with some magic (or fudge) in the next 7 weeks, and reported up thread the transition deal may need to be extended further beyond 2020.

For all your jubilation over what are very mixed local council results, the position of this perilous Brexit has not changed a bit!
 
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Fri May 04, 2018 10:26 am

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Oh dear. So NI border didn't work. Project fear didn't work. Russian hackers didn't work. Cambridge Analytica line was shot down before it even got going. Flights 'stopping' hasn't work. Chucka's horror show of an alliance won't go anywhere. There will be no second referendum. There will be no vote on the deal.

Has the penny (or should I say eurocent) finally dropped?


By those projected GE results, a Pro Customs Union Labour, SNP and Lib Dems would have a 322 seats - 3 short of an overall majority, add to that the large swave of Pro EU conservatives and things don't look too rosy for team Brexit? :bouncy:
 
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Fri May 04, 2018 11:01 am

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What empire?

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Why?
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Fri May 04, 2018 11:09 am

So basically Britain is still as divided as before, with yet another hung Parliament if we extrapolate yesterday's local election results?

No wonder the politicians in Westminster are kicking the can ever further down the road: whatever they chose, they'll loose half their support: an extension into an everlasting transitional period is now a given.
All it takes is a referendum somewhere in 2024 to legally make that situation permanent and put the Conservatives out of their misery.

As I've long maintained: the Norway option would never have been the preferred option of anybody in the UK prior to the referendum, but it really is the only possible solution able to gain you sufficient support and win a comfortable majority in any plebiscite, as it combines symbolic sovereignty with all the benefits of a de facto membership: all the other creative, flexible, and imaginative options are just going to put you in an unworkably close 48/52 scenario which means everything is basically gridlocked like poll after poll, and election after election is shown: Britain needs to move forward at some point, yet it can only do so with everybody on board.
 
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Fri May 04, 2018 11:47 am

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-The EU referendum with a majority voting to leave measured in millions


cool. When was the referendum with the soft or hard Brexit held? Or is it just your utterly undemocratic wish to leave the common market despite overwhelming majority support to stay in it?

-Local elections showing that support is rather unchanged and anti Brexit Labour didn't do too well


What exactly are thosepro-brexit voters voting for? A realistic one or the "the EU has to Change all their laws and regulations, screw Ireland" kind of fantasy?

we are still leaving the EU!


Yes, you are. It also very much seems like you will stay in the common market, and just pissed away your rebate and having any say in what the EU is in the process.

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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Fri May 04, 2018 11:48 am

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So, the only party that can be trusted to deliver a real Brexit did rather well in the local elections. The Marxists and their policy (well, their current policy) of Brexit in name only didn't do as well as they'd hoped and as well as remoaners were hoping for.

So, we've had:
-A 6-1 vote in favour of the EU referendum
-The EU referendum with a majority voting to leave measured in millions
-Overhwlming support in favour of triggering A50 (Corbyn wanted it the next day)
-Pro Brexit (when labour were pro Brexit) parties getting a vast majority of votes in GE17
-Local elections showing that support is rather unchanged and anti Brexit Labour didn't do too well

It seems we are leaving the EU Despite the Lords (my how the remoaners love their unelected undemocratic law makers) we are still leaving the EU!

It seems another GE in November isn't off the cards. The Marxists still wonder get their grubby hands on Number 10 and we can replace hard remain May with a real brexiteer to steer this great ship out in the great ocean of the world.


Are you sure?

UKIP - the party of 'real Brexit' - has collapsed completely, and despite virtually all of their voters going to the Tories, Labor and the Lib Dems have made significant gains. The Lib Dems have performed surprisingly strongly.

If you support a liberal Brexit (as you purport to), the trends aren't good for the Tories. The anti-immigrant/illiberal Brexiteers (ie ex-UKIPers/BNP/EDL) are becoming a core constituency of the Tories, while the liberal Tory remainers that the liberal 'global Britain' Tory Brexiteers hoped to co opt recently seem to be heading to Labour and the Lib Dems.

The Tory global Brexit wing (Johnson, Gove etc), which has explicitly denounced a UKIP/"Faragist" Brexit, is now increasingly dependent on Faragist Brexiteers for votes. Is that a victory for you?
 
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Sun May 06, 2018 2:02 pm

Oh no! Sat Navs will stop working after freedom day and we will need our own satellite network. Oh why didn't they write that on the side of a bus?

No wait, actually there are several commercial GPS services we could use. But still, let's not let that stop project fear! Or could it be that actually we'll still be part of Galileo a bit like Israel, Morocco and Ukraine are? Who knows with the EUSSR.
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Mon May 07, 2018 8:04 am

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Oh no! Sat Navs will stop working after freedom day and we will need our own satellite network. Oh why didn't they write that on the side of a bus?


Of course everyone in the UK will be able to use commercial grade satnav. The problem is twofold: first defence, and second those people employed in running it who will have their share of the work sent elsewhere in the EU.

You can always ask BoJo to cut a partner deal for GLONASS, though. The Russians would love to get these engineers.
 
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Mon May 07, 2018 8:57 am

France is in the air. Well, for now anyway! It seems the French have been taken in by project fear. So Air France will vanish, there will be no flights in Britain.

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Mon May 07, 2018 11:20 am

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France is in the air. Well, for now anyway! It seems the French have been taken in by project fear. So Air France will vanish, there will be no flights in Britain.

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I think you've lost us all on this one. Are you arguing that AF's chronic mismanagement, which long preceded Brexit, is a symptom of Brexit?

What about Swissair? And Sabena?
 
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Tue May 08, 2018 4:13 pm

Oh dear, how sad.

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"Oh but we haven't left yet". "Oh it's only because the pound has 'crashed'".
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Tue May 08, 2018 4:44 pm

That is such a clear sign for the benefits of the Brexit, I mean it is quite obvious that being within the EU market is not beneficial at all for cooperations in the UK, as their profits are limited by them being in the common market. So, I think the right headline would be "Despite being in the common market"
 
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Tue May 08, 2018 4:50 pm

Another loss for Theresa May in the house of lords.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ea-post-eu

"May Faces Defeat Over Fixed Brexit Date in U.K. House of Lords"

and

"Opposition lawmakers and rebels in Theresa May’s Conservative Party aim to push through two changes to the premier’s flagship Brexit legislation Tuesday, continuing its bruising passage through the House of Lords.

Peers are seeking to amend the draft law to remove the fixed timing of Brexit at 11 p.m. on March 29 next year, and to enable future governments to participate in European Union agencies after the U.K. leaves the bloc."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... e-of-lords

And Boris Johnson, her minister of foreign affairs, attacks his boss:

"Today in Brexit: Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson attacks Theresa May’s customs plan as crazy, as the House of Lords reminds her she doesn’t have the final say on Brexit.

Boris Johnson has openly criticized as “crazy” the trade policy his boss is fighting to keep alive, upping the stakes in the Cabinet battle over what kind of Brexit Britain wants."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ris-attack

Remains fascinating to look at the very slow trainwreck unfolding in the UK. May's government is loosely held together, they have no clue what they want and House of Lords seems to be on the path to torpedoing Brexit as much as they can. The ship of the UK government is steerless moving towards the Brexit.

Such a shame. Will be in Scotland in August, looking forward to it.
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Tue May 08, 2018 6:38 pm

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"Oh but we haven't left yet". "Oh it's only because the pound has 'crashed'".


Yep - you got the answers right again!

We have 1) a weak pound making exports cheap whilst 2) still having access to the EU single market and 3) customs union.

It ain’t rocket science that these are positives for the export economy.

The irony of this is, if you are so happy with these business results, then why not stick with what we’ve got? Hey sevenair?
 
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Tue May 08, 2018 8:57 pm

The Lords have been doing a great job for UK plc today, by backing three amendments which now go back to the commons:

- to remain in the EEA
- to remove the fixed date of leaving the EU
- continued participation in EU agencies

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 33791.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 41706.html

Great to see some common sense in UK politics, and will be interesting to see how these will be dealt with by our elected representatives in the House of Commons.

expect more "traitor" headlines in the Mail etc tomorrow! :rotfl:
 
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Tue May 08, 2018 11:24 pm

Richard28 wrote:
The Lords have been doing a great job for UK plc today, by backing three amendments which now go back to the commons:

- to remain in the EEA
- to remove the fixed date of leaving the EU
- continued participation in EU agencies

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 33791.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 41706.html

Great to see some common sense in UK politics, and will be interesting to see how these will be dealt with by our elected representatives in the House of Commons.

expect more "traitor" headlines in the Mail etc tomorrow! :rotfl:


The trouble is the Lords are unelected.

Something going forward, we need an elected upper house, or scrap the whole thing.
 
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Wed May 09, 2018 5:41 am

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The trouble is the Lords are unelected.

Something going forward, we need an elected upper house, or scrap the whole thing.


The reality is, the House of Lords doesn't have real power. A strong government with a comfortable majority can easily vote in bills while ignoring any amendments added by the Lords. The current government is in a much weaker position though.
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Wed May 09, 2018 6:03 am

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The trouble is the Lords are unelected.

Something going forward, we need an elected upper house, or scrap the whole thing.


Their job is to scrutinise legislation and put amendments back for consideration by the commons.

The fact that they are not elected is not great, but it has to be said the system has served our country well for many many years.

At the end of the day all amendments are voted in by our elected representatives so the system has a
Democratic check point.

I would suggest your solution to ‘scrap the whole thing’ would be foolish to say the least.
 
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Wed May 09, 2018 6:30 am

Imho the upper house is a great institution. Having a body that can suggest amendments to legislations without being subjected to the need to match the current trends in the population is invaluable. Not needing to win an election every 4 or 5 years makes the lords much more free to consider long term interests against short lived trends. In the end it the upper house can help a lot in a situation when the population is divided by 50:50 on an issue, even if it only means that they stop one side from forcing their point of view on the other half.
 
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Thu May 10, 2018 6:44 am

Oh well of course we can’t have anything to do with Galileo. That’s an EU project and we voted to leave the EU.

Oh well of course we can’t be in EASA. That’s an EU organisation and we voted to leave the EU.

Oh well of course we can’t have anything to do with ERASMUS. That’s an EU project and we voted to leave the EU. We’ll ignore the fact that there are several non EU participants.

Also remoaners:

We didn’t vote to leave the single market and must remain part of it despite it being an EU project and us boring to leave the EU.

Aww bless. They actually think the obfuscation of the Lords will stop Brexit. Funny how the lefties like to bash white men full time but then the majority white male dominated lords are suddenly elevated to hero status, just like they do with MOL.

Now where is my green ATPL, blue passports and BRXT/PIVT roster codes?
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Thu May 10, 2018 7:44 am

Latest project fear is that UK issued ATPLs won't be valid so we will need to re sit all 14 exams. It's funny how many of us never sat EASA a
ATPLs. They were UK ATPLs compliant with the JAA standards and were issued by the UK CAA which then became EASA's representation in the UK. The same CAA that continued to issue licences and AOCs.

But yeah, Brexit means our ATPLs won't be valid. It's a good job 'all of the flights will stop' as we won't be licenced to fly.
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Thu May 10, 2018 7:44 am

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We didn’t vote to leave the single market


Gosh, you're getting it!

sevenair wrote:
and must remain part of it despite it being an EU project and us boring to leave the EU.


Incorrect! pay attention sevenair!

The European Economic Area is open to both members of EFTA and the EU!

sevenair wrote:
Aww bless. They actually think the obfuscation of the Lords will stop Brexit. Funny how the lefties like to bash white men full time but then the majority white male dominated lords are suddenly elevated to hero status, just like they do with MOL.


stay behind after class sevenair!

all Lords amendments are passed back to the Commons to be voted on by our elected Representatives!

and you get a detention for bringing in racism and gender into the argument, it is also not all "lefties" who don't like Brexit - do pay attention in class sevenair!
 
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Thu May 10, 2018 11:41 am

I can hear vegan approved prosecco being popped throughout the remoaner world. Growth forecast down! You must be cockahoop!

Remember this bad news so it's to be taken as gospel and absolutely will happen.
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Thu May 10, 2018 11:43 am

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Latest project fear is that UK issued ATPLs won't be valid so we will need to re sit all 14 exams. It's funny how many of us never sat EASA a
ATPLs. They were UK ATPLs compliant with the JAA standards and were issued by the UK CAA which then became EASA's representation in the UK. The same CAA that continued to issue licences and AOCs.

But yeah, Brexit means our ATPLs won't be valid. It's a good job 'all of the flights will stop' as we won't be licenced to fly.


Thus basically you're saying that the EU is lying in its "Notice to stakeholders" dated April 13th? Or do you think that there will be a deal between the EU and UK which is approved by all parties in time?
 
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Thu May 10, 2018 12:07 pm

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I can hear vegan approved prosecco being popped throughout the remoaner world. Growth forecast down! You must be cockahoop!

Remember this bad news so it's to be taken as gospel and absolutely will happen.


You at the back of class, sevenair, pay attention!

The growth forecast decrease announced today by the Bank of England is for 2018 and almost entirely due to bad weather already experienced in March. It is not a post Brexit forecast.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44065472

Double detention!
 
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Fri May 11, 2018 9:03 am

Lots of news it seems today.

Theresa May has split her cabinet into two sections to consider both of her options for a customs union. All a bit academic really, as both options are already not agreeable to the EU, against the Good Friday agreement and a debate in the commons is to be held in any event over full continued customs union membership. More kicking the can in the long grass.

Leave.EU meanwhile has been fined for breaking the rules during the referendum.

Finally, despite the urgency to debate and move on with Brexit negotiations as soon as possible, Theresa May has not tabled any Brexit debates on the Commons for the next two weeks, despite the Lords now passing this back to the commons.

The amnedments to be debated are:

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Yet more kicking the can by the Prime Minister, delaying the debate and delaying democracy whilst she continues with the never ending infighting within her party......
 
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Fri May 11, 2018 5:13 pm

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Lots of news it seems today.

Theresa May has split her cabinet into two sections to consider both of her options for a customs union. All a bit academic really, as both options are already not agreeable to the EU, against the Good Friday agreement and a debate in the commons is to be held in any event over full continued customs union membership. More kicking the can in the long grass.

Leave.EU meanwhile has been fined for breaking the rules during the referendum.

Finally, despite the urgency to debate and move on with Brexit negotiations as soon as possible, Theresa May has not tabled any Brexit debates on the Commons for the next two weeks, despite the Lords now passing this back to the commons.

The amnedments to be debated are:

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Yet more kicking the can by the Prime Minister, delaying the debate and delaying democracy whilst she continues with the never ending infighting within her party......


To be fair, I could live with all about 5 of them. If these amendments go through it will be polling day pretty soon.

Hopefully that won't be the case.
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Fri May 11, 2018 5:16 pm

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Oh dear, how sad.

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"Oh but we haven't left yet". "Oh it's only because the pound has 'crashed'".


Great news. Thanks for sharing!!
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Fri May 11, 2018 5:53 pm

Meanwhile Dan Hannan, from the leave camp, now suggests that staying in the EEA through EFTA may be a good solution for the UK and also recognise the closeness of the referendum result.

This seems quite a reasonable approach, of course IMHO still does not address all the concerns of the remain side, good friday agreement etc, but a start nonetheless.

Perhaps, as we get closer to exit day the more people will start to see reason?

(or are people starting to disassociate from the mess that may ensue should things go bad?)
 
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Fri May 11, 2018 6:00 pm

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To be fair, I could live with all about 5 of them.


Which 5?
 
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Sun May 13, 2018 2:35 am

Well, an eventful evening for us Europeans and our Israeli friends.

A far left protester stormed the UK Eurovision entry. Oh how ironic that the far left (usually pro EU I may add) are the first to cry 'Nazi' and yet just hours later Twitter was ablaze with anti semitism and pure hate toward Israelis and Jews. What is it EU loving lefties say about 'literally Hitler'?

And the obligatory small scale terror attack in Paris. But yeah, just keep shouting 'far right', 'nazi' and other nonsense!

A no deal hard Brexit is looking more likely by the day ladies. Keep crying into the quinoa!
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Sun May 13, 2018 10:21 am

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All of that has nothing to do with Brexit negotiations sevenair.

Meanwhile there is no parliamentary majority for a hard Brexit, a good Friday agreement to adhere to and soft Brexit amendments a plenty to vote on.

Somethings gotta give.
 
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Sun May 13, 2018 10:41 am

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Well, an eventful evening for us Europeans and our Israeli friends.

A far left protester stormed the UK Eurovision entry. Oh how ironic that the far left (usually pro EU I may add) are the first to cry 'Nazi' and yet just hours later Twitter was ablaze with anti semitism and pure hate toward Israelis and Jews. What is it EU loving lefties say about 'literally Hitler'?

And the obligatory small scale terror attack in Paris. But yeah, just keep shouting 'far right', 'nazi' and other nonsense!

A no deal hard Brexit is looking more likely by the day ladies. Keep crying into the quinoa!


Considering how many terrorists have passports from France or Germany today, it will be a huge improvement for safety if people from the EU are requiring a VISA with full background check before being allowed to enter the UK.
 
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Sun May 13, 2018 11:10 am

Yes. It should totally solve the UK born terrorists problem :)
 
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Sun May 13, 2018 11:33 am

Yep, theee has never been a British terrorist, ever!

Leaving the EU and inflicting economic self harm is a great way of dealing with terrorism!

/sarcasm
 
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Sun May 13, 2018 12:32 pm

Always look on the bright side of life.
 
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Sun May 13, 2018 1:21 pm

Seems the pro-Leave media has resorted to its own Project Fear:

-The Spectator is oscillating between depression and anger. One story declares that Brexit is a "Tory no-win". Another, written by an agitated- and shrill-sounding American, demands that the Good Friday Agreement be discarded, while explicitly admitting that the EU is calling the shots.

-The Telegraph is trying desperately to turn the frankly technical and boring Customs Union issue into a publicly accessible issue. Apparently it fears that Brexit voters are primarily concerned about immigration, and don't care about anything else. Which, of course, suggests that the outward looking Brexit was a myth all along.

-Arch-Brexiteer Simon Heffer, who wants every Remainer sacked from high office, has declared that "Theresa May's weak leadership on Brexit is damaging the economy." But a.net's resident Brexiteers insist that the economy is doing really well. Who is right? Not a fan of Heffer, but I find he is less sympathetic to Russian/far right propaganda outlets than some posters here.

-Good old Danny Hannan is feeling the same pressure as the Telegraph. He makes a laudable attempt to pin it on the bureaucracy. To wit: "like a lot of Remainers, they (civil servants) genuinely believe that the only real issue for Leavers was immigration, and so have drawn their red line there rather than on economics." He insists that immigration isn't the only "real" issue, but a Freudian slip reveals all: "But we – we liberal Leavers – don’t own it."

If "Leave means leave", what in the world is a "liberal Leaver"? Seems Leavers don't all believe in the same type of Leave. And poor Danny and his pro-Leave buddies at the Telegraph fear that the Remainers have found the fissure between provincial and liberal Brexiteers and are driving a wedge through it. But that's okay, because... something about Eurovision.

In other news, the global/liberal Brexit narrative is taking another international beating this week. The Press Trust of India (which is carried by papers across the country, including the highest circulation paper - Times of India) is running the following headline/story: "UK hit by Brexit-related Racism: UN Inspector". True or not, thats the narrative being put out in India. Sooner or later, it will take hold. And that's how Brexit will be viewed/remembered there.
 
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Sun May 13, 2018 2:01 pm

A liberal leaver must be a special kind of leaver, even more delusional than the regular kind.

Being in the EU was a liberal wet dream. The ability to trade freely without having to deal with national regulations, the ability to hire ultra cheap labor, a good influence to ensure regulations are minimally invasive, nobody to really do anything about tax evasion, fiscal paradises etc. (a lot of which are British or formerly British).

But in truth I've seen those on TV the day after the vote, including young French people working in the City, dreaming of Ayn Rand or something, that the economy can never be too liberal. I bet half of them are back in France by now.
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Sun May 13, 2018 3:05 pm

Things are getting exciting. Hard Brexit. Real Brexit is in the air. I can feel it in me waters. How tragically ironic that the EU ultras have tried to keep us tied to the EU and to stop Brexit but in reality all they've done is make a deal unlikely.

It's time to go global.
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Sun May 13, 2018 3:09 pm

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Yep, theee has never been a British terrorist, ever!

Leaving the EU and inflicting economic self harm is a great way of dealing with terrorism!

/sarcasm


Where did I claim it would my friend?
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Sun May 13, 2018 3:10 pm

Olddog wrote:
Yes. It should totally solve the UK born terrorists problem :)


I don't think it will actually. I didn't claim it would. If I did please cite specifically where I did and I'll happily edit the post.
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Sun May 13, 2018 3:26 pm

Sevenair, you should maybe read that page again and realize that no one was talking to you ?
 
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Sun May 13, 2018 3:34 pm

Oh I do applies my ultra remoaner friend. I hope you're looking forward to the will of the people being eneacted and a hard Brexit together with leaving the SM just like we were told.

Brexit means Brexit and it seems we are going to be treated with a real red, white and blue Brexit.

We're getting our country back. Taking back control and getting our independence.
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Sun May 13, 2018 4:13 pm

sevenair wrote:
Things are getting exciting. Hard Brexit. Real Brexit is in the air. I can feel it in me waters. How tragically ironic that the EU ultras have tried to keep us tied to the EU and to stop Brexit but in reality all they've done is make a deal unlikely.

It's time to go global.


But if there's a hard Brexit, that means no transitional agreement. Unless I'm missing something, you celebrated the transitional agreement? You don't seem to understand your own positions (some of which are contradictory).

Take some time to think things through. Develop a somewhat coherent position. This scattered self-contradictory approach is amusing on this forum, but I imagine it would scare the daylights out of your pax.
 
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Sun May 13, 2018 4:19 pm

sevenair wrote:
Richard28 wrote:
Yep, theee has never been a British terrorist, ever!

Leaving the EU and inflicting economic self harm is a great way of dealing with terrorism!

/sarcasm


Where did I claim it would my friend?


Where did I say it was from you?

Do pay attention sevenair!
 
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Sun May 13, 2018 8:09 pm

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Am not sure what a liberal leaver is either.

I suspect that as Brexit day looms, many of the protagonists will try and disassociate themselves with the version of Brexit being delivered ‘it’s not my fault’ will be more and more familiar, with such new names being invented.

On a lighter note I saw this earlier today and can’t resist posting it here! A bit of humour, nothing serious.

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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Sun May 13, 2018 8:40 pm

sevenair wrote:
We're getting our country back. Taking back control and getting our independence.


But seriously man, what does that mean?
Many happy landings, greetings from The Netherlands!
 
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Sun May 13, 2018 8:43 pm

double post
Many happy landings, greetings from The Netherlands!
 
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Re: Brexit EU position Phase 2

Sun May 13, 2018 9:43 pm

Dutchy wrote:
sevenair wrote:
We're getting our country back. Taking back control and getting our independence.


But seriously man, what does that mean?


Didn't Indonesia break away from the dutch empire?
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