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sevenair wrote:Because of Brexit
Time to crack open the bubbly lads. More bad news for your to get excited over.
But before you go getting too excited, sadly Nissan have confirmed this is nothing to do with Brexit.
LTenEleven wrote:sevenair wrote:Because of Brexit
Time to crack open the bubbly lads. More bad news for your to get excited over.
But before you go getting too excited, sadly Nissan have confirmed this is nothing to do with Brexit.
Since when does anyone believe what companies come up with as excuses?
sevenair wrote:No. I can't answer the question. Can you? It's a hugely complex issue, way above my pay scale.
sevenair wrote:Yawn. Dangerously close to the 'your racist' line that you lot pull when you want to silence opposing views. Cite examples of me not 'liking' Europeans.
sevenair wrote:No. I can't answer the question. Can you? It's a hugely complex issue, way above my pay scale. But you're all so prescient as to what won't work so surely you can tell me what will work? And no, remaining in the EU and in the SM is not an option.
JJJ wrote:
Then go to the Turkey - Greece border, Turkey is in the EEA yet there are miles of lorries queuing in the border.
sevenair wrote:Hand back NI I say.
bennett123 wrote:Sevenair
All this fuss about your Green ATPL. I understand that we could have had Blue passports before, (and some EU members do).
I assume you have checked that the EU banned Green. ATPL’s.
Also I understand ending Freedom of Movement is another Red Line.
How do you do this without borders.
Richard28 wrote:sevenair wrote:No. I can't answer the question. Can you? It's a hugely complex issue, way above my pay scale. But you're all so prescient as to what won't work so surely you can tell me what will work? And no, remaining in the EU and in the SM is not an option.
Exactly sevenair, has the penny finally dropped?
I can't give you an answer because there isn't one!!
Richard28 wrote:sevenair wrote:Yawn. Dangerously close to the 'your racist' line that you lot pull when you want to silence opposing views. Cite examples of me not 'liking' Europeans.
You've said we are bankrolling Scotland and Wales, you want to stop Europeans right of access to the UK after transition and you couldn't care less about Ireland.
Pretty much some up what you have said just this afternoon... I could go back further but frankly can't be bothered.
scbriml wrote:sevenair wrote:No. I can't answer the question. Can you? It's a hugely complex issue, way above my pay scale.
So basically, you don't know what you voted for. Epic.
sevenair wrote:tommy1808 wrote:isevenair wrote:*Generic a.net making up of facts*
Got the message at last?
My Brexit being one with the most free, most open trading, close working relationships with the EU, ease of access for EU nationals coming here? Now that is sad.
UltimoTiger777 wrote:JJJ wrote:
Then go to the Turkey - Greece border, Turkey is in the EEA yet there are miles of lorries queuing in the border.
Turkey isn't in the EEA.
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Richard28 wrote:And for each of those posts I can show you a clip talking about the Norway and Switzerland options post Brexit.
As such, it was not clear.
sevenair wrote:We were told many times that leaving the EU meant leaving the SM.
(...)
the government's £9m remain campaign leaflets made it quite clear that we would likely lose access to the SM. This, coupled with the then PM telling us that leaving would mean leaving the SM resulted in an informed electorate.
sevenair wrote:Where's my apology for your defamatory claim that I 'disliked' Europeans.
sevenair wrote:If it's ok for me to get insulted on here for 'not knowing what I voted for'
scbriml wrote:sevenair wrote:Where's my apology for your defamatory claim that I 'disliked' Europeans.sevenair wrote:If it's ok for me to get insulted on here for 'not knowing what I voted for'
I say old chap, you're a tad snowflakey for someone who's quick to throw insults and generalisations at everyone who had the temerity to vote differently to you.
bennett123 wrote:We now know that we could have had a Blue Passport in the EU.
I assume you have evidence that a Green ATPL was not possible.
Incidentally, one big lie on the leave side that leaving the EU was an extra £350M a week for the NHS.
Wonder how big a factor that was.
sevenair wrote:Yet you lot are still perpetuating the myth that people voted to leave the EU because of blue passports.
SQ789 wrote:What happen to UK's Aviation Industry after the Brexit?
bennett123 wrote:https://infacts.org/uk-doesnt-send-eu-350m-a-week-or-55m-a-day/
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/re ... 50m-a-week
https://fullfact.org/blog/2016/apr/uk-s ... isleading/
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/e ... -350m-week
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37383918
This claim of an extra £350M per week for the NHS is not a new thing.
It was pushed prominantly during the referendum campaign.
IMO, it was a big factor in the vote going the way it did.
sevenair wrote:bennett123 wrote:We now know that we could have had a Blue Passport in the EU.
I assume you have evidence that a Green ATPL was not possible.
Incidentally, one big lie on the leave side that leaving the EU was an extra £350M a week for the NHS.
Wonder how big a factor that was.
Nobody voted to leave because of blue passports. Most under 40s can’t even remember them. I did a search in the run up to the EU reference and *NOT ONE* person mentioned blue passports. Literally nobody voted to leave because of blue passports.
I really don’t care about green ATPLs if I’m quite honest. I literally mentioned it for the first time yesterday. I have no evidence that we had to go blue nor do I have evidence to the contrary. I’m just feeding the trolls I know. Besides a green ATPL would be hillarious amongst my remoaner colleagues! However the lack of links to EU documents, news stories etc accompanied by sarcastic comments and ‘I can’t believe you didn’t know that’ nonsense from the resident EU fanatics tells me that nobody has found the answer. My bringing it up is a cute experiment to see how all twist facts o suit your narrative and defame leave voters. Let’s see how long it spreads that we voted to leave so that we can get green ATPLs back!!
The £350m was never promised and we don’t pay anywhere near that to the EU so that they can sell us their goods. I would not have voted leave if I thought we would have given the NHS a penny more as a result of Brexit. Remember, not all of us believe in the NHS nor like the NHS and we are entitled to have those opinions. I don’t have to like the NHS. I’m forced to pay for something that delivers terrible value for money, shoddy service and is basically a job creation scheme for many.
Incidentally we were promised the NHS would collapse but actually NHS has recruited MORE EU nationals into frontline roles. I know. It’s only until we leave. Then the NHS will collapse. And when we leave and things are rather business as usual then we will be told the Armageddon will e after the transition period.
Indeed. The big red bus probably did influence people’s vote. But I should imagine more people voted to no cause the collapse of the NHS (as project fear told us) rather than voting to leave and giving the NHS more money.
sevenair wrote:Richard28 wrote:And for each of those posts I can show you a clip talking about the Norway and Switzerland options post Brexit.
As such, it was not clear.
Where's my apology for your defamatory claim that I 'disliked' Europeans. Have you flagged my alleged xenophobia to the mods and if so what was the outcome?
Indeed. We can all find clips, videos, stories and tweets supporting our views or trying to rubbish those with an opposing view. I womder if you could find me a single a.net post alluding to the Irish border issue. Just one.
sevenair wrote:You played the hate card. I called your bluff. Just move on mate.
sevenair wrote:The Express I know, but if you can EU fanatics can use the New Statesman to support your anti Brexit views then surely I can use the Express.
sevenair wrote:Yes yes yes. It will all be terrible.
1 on 1 negotiations are much easier than 1 on 27.
sevenair wrote:Yeah. Disaster. Rapture. Repent.
Richard28 wrote:sevenair wrote:Yeah. Disaster. Rapture. Repent.
Just your ‘project no fear’ in motion.
Let us know when there are 19 developed country trade deals, including a service industry FTA with most of them and no border controls.... then I will accept your gloats and happily concede.
Until that point keep thinking about the upcoming commons CU vote and the Irish question....!